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February 29, 2012, 04:58:37 PM
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Yeah, GPUMAX needs a bid-ask spread beyond 2 selectable options. And a tickbox that would allow hashes to be sent to a customer's own bithopper, while adding a fee to pay for the inevitable stales and rejects.

Regarding pointing purchases to personal bithoppers:  Keep in mind that most consumer internet feeds couldn't handle a full bore 100+ GHhash purchase GPUMAX is now capable of providing.  I think it would be a necessity to put in configurable hashrate caps as well.  Lacking some kind of control, I can see the packet loss rate taking down not only the buyer, but screwing up GPUMAX as a whole.  As pirate would say:  "they can't handle the heat"

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i'm done with gpumax.

it's just frustrating when the purchase is activated waaaay after payment has been made, and at random times.
precision is key for me, and i can't get it from you.

i'll be back when i can control my timings as precise as possible.
Blah blah blah, I'll keep making extra for my miners!

If you need precise control, run your own bithopper.
i am running my own hopper. it is a separate system altogether. i don't point gpumax to my hopper, the rig just can't handle it, i realized that long time ago.
there are several techniques where bithopper can't do, only gpumax and perfect timing can.

this is the point of having an additional hashing-provider service, to earn more $?
i stop using service that's unreliable and costs me $ in the long run.

hoppers still hopping, but booster needs keep on boosting, as precise as possible. not 6 hours later.

i'm not stupid enough to point gpumax purchases to pps pools.


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February 29, 2012, 05:04:47 PM
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i am running my own hopper. it is a separate system altogether. i don't point gpumax to my hopper, the rig just can't handle it, i realized that long time ago.
there are several techniques where bithopper can't do, only gpumax and perfect timing can.

this is the point of having an additional hashing-provider service, to earn more $?
i stop using service that's unreliable and costs me $ in the long run.

hoppers still hopping, but booster needs keep on boosting, as precise as possible. not 6 hours later.

i'm not stupid enough to point gpumax purchases to pps pools.

Maybe quit being a dick and trying to exploit the bitcoin network to the detriment of honest miners.  Or at least, quit bitching about how gpumax doesn't help you be an asshat.  Also, happy bleepday fuckwad: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66757.0

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i am running my own hopper. it is a separate system altogether. i don't point gpumax to my hopper, the rig just can't handle it, i realized that long time ago.
there are several techniques where bithopper can't do, only gpumax and perfect timing can.

this is the point of having an additional hashing-provider service, to earn more $?
i stop using service that's unreliable and costs me $ in the long run.

hoppers still hopping, but booster needs keep on boosting, as precise as possible. not 6 hours later.

i'm not stupid enough to point gpumax purchases to pps pools.

Maybe quit being a dick and trying to exploit the bitcoin network to the detriment of honest miners.  Or at least, quit bitching about how gpumax doesn't help you be an asshat.  Also, happy bleepday fuckwad: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66757.0
exploit the bitcoin network?
how?
hopping? hah, that's laughable. that's barely "exploiting".
what i'm doing is not hopping, btw.

profit is my concern. like vladimir said long time ago, "you should only loyal to your wallet.dat, not any pools"
like i said, i'm paying for a service. if i can't get what i need and expected from a service, i stop using it. what's so hard to understand?

if it's a free service, i won't bitch and complain.


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February 29, 2012, 05:25:02 PM
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i am running my own hopper.
what i'm doing is not hopping, btw.

Does not compute one fucking bit.

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Great, stop using the damn thing.  There is not need to get offended by my shitty language... it's not about you, it's bleepday.

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OK.. this is just a selective quote since this is the only point I'd like to address:

trying to exploit the bitcoin network to the detriment of honest miners. 

Back when the majority of pools were all proportional, I was in the camp of thinking hoppers were pond-scum. 

Now, however, the majority of pools are either non-prop or at least offer non-prop alternatives.  Also, the hopping "exploit" is now widely known and there is plenty of information out there about it.  I feel it is very easy for miners to avoid being "exploited" ..  If a miner does not have sufficient motivation to have researched what he is doing to realize this.. well caveat emptor applies. 

I no longer have any moral qualms about leasing my miners out to hoppers. 

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I no longer have any moral qualms about leasing my miners out to hoppers.  


This.
To the above poster; rather than blaming hoppers for doing the mathematically sensible thing, you should direct your anger towards pool ops that (often I think deliberately) allow their members to be exploited, by not implementing a hop proof payout scheme. I say deliberate,  because they get their fees from hoppers and non stop miners alike.
 
TL;DR, You cant prevent hopping, you can avoid hoppable pools.

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i am running my own hopper.
what i'm doing is not hopping, btw.

Does not compute one fucking bit.

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Great, stop using the damn thing.  There is not need to get offended by my shitty language... it's not about you, it's bleepday.
i'd rather use the term "boosting", because i don't actually hop or mine at that pool.

and yes, that's what i'm doing right now. my last purchase was 2 hours ago, and it's still not activated.
i'm not offended though.

one has to improvise in order to gain more profit than others. i'm not your run-of-the-mill miner that runs their rig and just hope for the best, while on limited resource.
imagine if you're double or triple stacking, and the purchase didn't go thru until couple of hours later, combined with no pause function, that's plenty of bitcoins lost.

however, if you manage to time it proper and nicely, and having a decent luck, you can flip 24 btc to ~60 btc in a matter of hours.
when timing's amiss, there goes your investment.


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February 29, 2012, 07:09:30 PM
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I do understand Starlightbreaker. The way it is now the miners and GPUMAX profit. The buyers are not really in a comfortable position. But this service can not run without them. You can hope that some fool is buying your shares but would anyone mining for GPUMAX actually buy shares the way things are at the moment ? I wouldn't !

Since i'm a craftsman i don't know much about how things work in the background. But there are some things i would change if i would run such a service.

- option to limit (choose?) the hashrate, the service sends to the buyer. No more pool flood !
- the buyer can choose how much he want's to pay for one share and sellers are free to set the price they want.
- buyer can time the shares + gets an option to pause and resume the purchased shares.

Not that i want to complain ! I earn good money here and i like the idea of this service. It has lots of potential.

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Starlight, you may be able to gain more precision by setting the pool you're pointing hashes to an invalid pool. It would at least give you the possibility to pause your purchase.
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Starlight, you may be able to gain more precision by setting the pool you're pointing hashes to an invalid pool. It would at least give you the possibility to pause your purchase.
tried that, didn't really work.

if i can make it work, i won't bitch and moan here.

it was fine at the beginning, where purchases were activated at the least within 10 minutes after confirmation. but now, it's within hours.
nuh uh, not acceptable. i don't really mind no pause button, but hours late?

nope.

that's why i say, might as well as change the name to gpumaxcasino for the buyers.

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if i'm being mean, i'll pause my purchase by pointing to invalid pools, and let them bleed rejects until i want to continue using it.

....actually, that sounds like a good idea.
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February 29, 2012, 08:48:26 PM
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Starlight, you may be able to gain more precision by setting the pool you're pointing hashes to an invalid pool. It would at least give you the possibility to pause your purchase.
tried that, didn't really work.

if i can make it work, i won't bitch and moan here.

it was fine at the beginning, where purchases were activated at the least within 10 minutes after confirmation. but now, it's within hours.
nuh uh, not acceptable. i don't really mind no pause button, but hours late?

nope.

that's why i say, might as well as change the name to gpumaxcasino for the buyers.

*edit
if i'm being mean, i'll pause my purchase by pointing to invalid pools, and let them bleed rejects until i want to continue using it.

....actually, that sounds like a good idea.
hmm.

The system auto pauses purchases to invalid pools and you have to wait through the queue again for it to try again. 

If you don't like how the system works don't use it.  Trying to bypass how the system works is just going to get your account banned.

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that's why i stopped using it.


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February 29, 2012, 08:59:46 PM
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that's why i stopped using it.

Perfect

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that's why i started trolling.

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February 29, 2012, 09:08:38 PM
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I would like to see Pirate setup a PRIVATE PROP Pool for GPUMAX Miners ONLY, that ONLY GPUMAX accounts (through the management interface) can be pointed to......so no outside interference.

This would make purchases USEFUL.....

When no LEASE work is available, it can act as an OFFLINE pool for those who choose.

When purchases are made, people can point tons of power at it and play the 'lottery' Wink

Either way, it's a win/win for GPUMAX.

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Or maybe a deal can be worked out with a known Pool OP that would only allow GPUMAX Proxy connections to a PROP pool ? ...so NO outside hopping possible ?

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Is there an API or a way i can see my worker stats without being logged in? (i want to load stats into a program)

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Is there an API or a way i can see my worker stats without being logged in? (i want to load stats into a program)

Yes, join our channel #gpumax on freenode and we can get you one setup.

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February 29, 2012, 09:47:27 PM
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What ?
Am I on IGNORE ?
Are my suggestions so stupid that they don't even get a response anymore ?

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Are my suggestions so stupid that they don't even get a response anymore ?

I think you hit the nail on the head....
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