[ANN][KARM] Karma / ₭ / X11

[McHammer]

raising btc for what?

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[Danbcf]

Just sent 0.05 BTC  I am available for Karma but unfortunately my English is not very good

[KarmaKaguy]

Take a minute to participate in this poll:

http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,624.msg3809.html#msg3809

The current Karmafunds can be lookded up here:

http://www.karmafund.me/

(I am still not here;))

[kosmost]

I probably could have used a better term than 'changing the world'. On reflection it could be read that I was belittling the efforts in SE Asia which was not my intention at all.

I think the reason the twitter and facebook tipbots thing is a good idea is that it is something that everyone can do straight away. It's a simple undertaking and it could bring a lot of people in who are new to crypto.

I appreciate another poster's views that there may not be a lot of pick up from people who are tipped. The whole thing obviously needs a little more thought.

One thing I have to comment on though is all this 'We need to find people who need Karma' stuff. Right now nobody needs Karma. Nobody.

Insisting on finding people who need Karma is a waste of time and energy.

I would strongly disagree with that.

Finding your market is the core purpose of any business. That is the nature of business: finding unmet consumer needs and filling those needs (or doing it better than others).

Can you imagine FedEx saying, "Insisting on finding people who need FedEx is a waste of time and energy"? Or any other product/service?

Yes, there are lots of people who need to transfer money (or other stores of value) from one place to another cheaply and efficiently. Many more than need crypto. That's why I say "Karma or something like Karma". Why not Karma?

Did anyone in Kenya "need" M-PESA before they came on the scene? Of course. Because the consumer need was there.

Tipping doesn't seem to be a good way to really grow an economy and a coin. Yes, tipping exists and has been around for a while. That's how we can tell it probably doesn't work (because it isn't proven to be successful). Did it work for Dogecoin? It may have destroyed their economy, as I mentioned before they blew up.

[bignev]

I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

[kosmost]

Take a minute to participate in this poll:

http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,624.msg3809.html#msg3809

(I am still not here;))

Please note that votes from 'members' of the Karma community who have never before posted anywhere will not be counted in this unofficial poll.

linking to a poll asking non-Karma community members to vote will invalidate those votes

[kosmost]

Have you answered these??

a. Why do you love KARMA?
b. In the range of 1-10, 10 being in the top, TOP 100 richest KARMA holder. What number would you be??
c. What are you GOOD at, not necessarily very good, but something you do well. WHAT IS IT?
d. Do you want to stay and help KARMA and the community?? Reply with a yes or no.




LET ME ORGANIZE THINGS FOR THE MOMENT.

For a while until we have installed a new community-chosen groups leaders, let me coordinate things or I see things will not move.

Please consider these proposals and choose TWO(2) for every position:

FOR OVER ALL COORDINATORS  WE NEED TWO
This 2 persons will handle the coordination of all Karma related functions making sure everything is going as scheduled and are handled correctly. (mostly talk to persons involved)
Chargin
Cryptowho
p4r4m0unt
socoban
karmakaguy
Alphi
ptman
easteagle13


FOR DEVELOPERS GROUPS SPEAKERS/LEAD WE NEED TWO
This is a very important group that will ensure that Karma hardware and software support are maintained to their optimum, present and future software.
cryptowho
javijavier
socoban
ptman
learminer
ChulaLoca (FredDag)
karmakaguy
warfwarf


FOR COMMUNITY SPEAKERS/LEADERS WE NEED TWO
This 2 persons will handle BTTforum, FB, Twitter, karmawire, reddit and other official press and public announcements.
pdogg
cryptowho
Chargin
karmakaguy
mryusa
Bierworst
ryannguyen18
easteagle13


BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT/KARMA DISTRIBUTION GROUP LEADERS/SPEAKERS
This is one of the most important group, the source of all karma income that will ensure the success of Karma, Only the best should be the leaders here.
kosmost
Chargin
LittleDuke
cryptowho
 


HUMAN RESOURCES/BUDGET SPEAKERS/LEADERS WE NEED TWO
This group will handle the identification of future human resource for karma needs. This will also handle the release of funds for Karma projects, once all signatories have agreed in writing.
Only the trustworthy are worthy here.

Chargin
karmakaguy
Bierwors
Alphi
p4r4m0unt


The above lists of persons are only proposals, you can add yourself to any group and mark your vote by typing after the nick name the words : "MY CHOICE"

In case you don't want your name to be included on the list mark your own name with "I CANNOT DO THIS"

The community chosen speakers/leaders will then handle the day to day needs of Karma. They will receive compensation (TBA)
 according to their accomplishments. Coming from the working fund that will be given by the community, the fund will be stored in ESCROW and will only be released as needed per project.
The release of fund will be approved only when 1 leader from the 5 groups above have approve it. Any one of the two speakers/leaders may approve.

There are many capable and willing karma community members, the list above is not to exclude you, if ever you are willing to work for the community just reply here with what group do you want to belong.

Once the group leaders are installed and finalized, all community members will be divided among those five groups. This will ensure there will be enough people to attend to the all works needed for karma.

If you have another person that you want to propose for a position above please do say it.

All other that will not be leaders will automatically belong to the group they are listed above, and they can volunteer to be a member of other groups too.

Thanks for your participation, let us do these karma brothers.

As discussed, I will only be helping Karma with whatever services, websites, etc., need to be transitioned to someone else.

After that I will be a silent member of the community (as I still own Karma and intend to keep it until Karma finds its true market). I will likely check in every 2 or 3 months.

But for the moment, I am still here posting whatever I can.

Let's also not forget to post to our subreddit and keep that active. It's been dead for a while.

[bignev]

I probably could have used a better term than 'changing the world'. On reflection it could be read that I was belittling the efforts in SE Asia which was not my intention at all.

I think the reason the twitter and facebook tipbots thing is a good idea is that it is something that everyone can do straight away. It's a simple undertaking and it could bring a lot of people in who are new to crypto.

I appreciate another poster's views that there may not be a lot of pick up from people who are tipped. The whole thing obviously needs a little more thought.

One thing I have to comment on though is all this 'We need to find people who need Karma' stuff. Right now nobody needs Karma. Nobody.

Insisting on finding people who need Karma is a waste of time and energy.

I would strongly disagree with that.

Finding your market is the core purpose of any business. That is the nature of business: finding unmet consumer needs and filling those needs (or doing it better than others).

Can you imagine FedEx saying, "Insisting on finding people who need FedEx is a waste of time and energy"? Or any other product/service?

Yes, there are lots of people who need to transfer money (or other stores of value) from one place to another cheaply and efficiently. Many more than need crypto. That's why I say "Karma or something like Karma". Why not Karma?

Did anyone in Kenya "need" M-PESA before they came on the scene? Of course. Because the consumer need was there.

Tipping doesn't seem to be a good way to really grow an economy and a coin. Yes, tipping exists and has been around for a while. That's how we can tell it probably doesn't work (because it isn't proven to be successful). Did it work for Dogecoin? It may have destroyed their economy, as I mentioned before they blew up.

It's a fair point you make and you're obviously a well informed and talented guy. It's just my opinion that you have to make people want the coin before finding people who need it. Otherwise you have no leverage or credibility.

I don't see why the two have to be mutually exclusive however. If the team behind Karma can organise effectively then there are many different avenues that can be explored.

If nothing else then at least it's an interesting discussion.

[TheLittleDuke]

BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT/KARMA DISTRIBUTION GROUP LEADERS/SPEAKERS
This is one of the most important group, the source of all karma income that will ensure the success of Karma, Only the best should be the leaders here.
kosmost
Chargin
LittleDuke
cryptowho

The only way I would risk my reputation would be if this was rebooted in a legitimate and legal way.  

I think the notion of a member-owned LLC that purportedly is going to enrich its members is not at this time a viable option.

What I do have are resources and the legitimate non-profit Strength in Numbers Foundation in addition to the for profit "Vires in Numeris LLC" that is the holding company for doabitofgood.com.

I'm not anonymous -- you can find my bio at http://linkedin.com/in/dvduccini

So if you want to talk about doing this in a 120% transparent way, I'm interested.

Especially if there is a way to link the X11 based GIVEcoin chain into the mix.  I believe that all boats will rise.

Just my .02

-dvd

[ptman]

I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

I like this idea.
Anything that involves celebrities will give us a massive exposure.

We just need to be able to transmit a very clear idea about what is our objective before we have such a big exposure.

[easteagle13]

3 Million sent.
Thank you to everyone.
Who is next?
Please throw a bone.

Hi, here is the current donations for Karma promotion and devs payment(hopefully)

KARMA donations - KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm
Chargin                                                  25M
dips55tree                                           - 11M
ryannguyen18                                         10M
cryptowho/bitwho                                    10M  
karmakaguy                                             10M
easteagle13                                            10M
bondi                                                      1M
someone sent                                               10K
                                             total          77 009 999.80 KARMA

mouseman                                                3M
bignev                                                     1M
Facira                                                      2M
someone sent                                           1M
warfwarf                                                 10M
clayop                                                    50M
Kennet_h                                                49 999 999.80 (45M will be refunded, when he makes his request for a refund, public)  
UrsaMajorisBeta                                             11K



NEW TOTAL                                            194 020 999.60 KARM (see note above on Kennet_h donation)                        


If you happen to be the one who sent the unnamed amounts kindly reply to this thanks.


BTC - 12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD

learminer                                               0.0425
FredDag                                                 0.0498
youseeberkeley                                      0.02          
Karmakaguy                                           0.04980089  
joymagic                                               0.1094          
ptman                                                   0.0248
Danbcf                                                  0.05
easteagle13                                           0.0075BTC


NEW TOTAL BTC                                 0.35380089 BTC

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL!

Our present goal to raise fund to pay for this: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto, is now reached. Fund remainder will be used for further needs of Karma and the community continued donation will be accepted and reported every 24 hours.

Karma's immediate needs are:
-Karma Api
-Mobile Wallet
-Recruitment Interface similar to "Stellar" method


THIS COMMUNITY HAS THE NEEDED SPIRIT TO MAKE KARMA A SUCCESS!!

Check the values in the blockchains please.

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU!!

thanks dips55tree, sorry I was looking on the wrong thread! That is why I did not find your name. Also thanks to kenneth.
Thanks clayop, you're very generous, same goes with learminer, FredDag and UrsaMajorisBeta.

Thanks for taking on the bounty gathering, easteagle, I just send 0.02 btc to the address.  Still hopeful for better days to come for Karma.(:

send 0.05 btc. To all: karma will be dead without an explorer. Nobody can lift it up if you dont have one.... please send the btc back if this does not work out. KarmaKaguy (I was not here )

Thanks youseeberkeley, karmakaguy, joymagic, ptman and Danbcf for your generous bitcoin donations!

[easteagle13]

I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

I like this idea.
Anything that involves celebrities will give us a massive exposure.

We just need to be able to transmit a very clear idea about what is our objective before we have such a big exposure.

+1 bignev might me someone Karma need! Please let us know how can we help in doing that!

[fairglu]

Thanks fairglu for that informative post, our payment is nearing completion, would we get any kind of receipt after payment, so that we can document the transaction properly?

What kind of receipt would satisfy you? I usually acknowledge in PM, I could acknowledge here

And will our payment allow us for the indefinite use of your services?

It's for one year. I assume than in a year either KARMA will be either valuable and pay for itself... or an explorer won't be necessary anymore. I'm not sure either about the hosting costs in one year, or the BTC/USD rate, might have collapsed or gone to the moon.

If you ever decide to migrate to a new blockchain during the year, the explorer can be carried over to the new blockchain with no charge, and I'll leave explorer for both old and new chain running at the same time during the transition to facilitate things (happened a few times already).

[easteagle13]

Thanks fairglu for that informative post, our payment is nearing completion, would we get any kind of receipt after payment, so that we can document the transaction properly?

What kind of receipt would satisfy you? I usually acknowledge in PM, I could acknowledge here

And will our payment allow us for the indefinite use of your services?

It's for one year. I assume than in a year either KARMA will be either valuable and pay for itself... or an explorer won't be necessary anymore. I'm not sure either about the hosting costs in one year, or the BTC/USD rate, might have collapsed or gone to the moon.

If you ever decide to migrate to a new blockchain during the year, the explorer can be carried over to the new blockchain with no charge, and I'll leave explorer for both old and new chain running at the same time during the transition to facilitate things (happened a few times already).

No offense meant, I would just like to ensure that, if ever another person takes over or manage your site, our paid service will still be acknowledged without any problem.

[bignev]

I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

I like this idea.
Anything that involves celebrities will give us a massive exposure.

We just need to be able to transmit a very clear idea about what is our objective before we have such a big exposure.

+1 bignev might me someone Karma need! Please let us know how can we help in doing that!

Oh I could write the blog and do everything required myself no problem. I also have a pretty good idea about which celebs to target, especially in the UK.

As ptman said there needs to be a consensus about where Karma is headed before any great exposure comes. I would feel more comfortable too.

Also, I still need to find a coin for the people I have signed up. The reason I'm sticking with Karma at the moment despite the recent turmoil is because this seems like a really good community and if I don't go ahead with Karma at least I can contribute something during my time here.

Peace

[easteagle13]

I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

I like this idea.
Anything that involves celebrities will give us a massive exposure.

We just need to be able to transmit a very clear idea about what is our objective before we have such a big exposure.

+1 bignev might me someone Karma need! Please let us know how can we help in doing that!

Oh I could write the blog and do everything required myself no problem. I also have a pretty good idea about which celebs to target, especially in the UK.

As ptman said there needs to be a consensus about where Karma is headed before any great exposure comes. I would feel more comfortable too.

Also, I still need to find a coin for the people I have signed up. The reason I'm sticking with Karma at the moment despite the recent turmoil is because this seems like a really good community and if I don't go ahead with Karma at least I can contribute something during my time here.

Peace

You and your ideas are welcome, you can write about Karma, try your ideas. The more we are talking about karma to other people the better.

By this method we acquaint the people and when the time comes that they get interested to get involved with digital currency, they will surely look up Karma too.
This is similar to how billboard ads work, they acquaint people, they expose them to their product that although while passing that way, those people may not take immediate action regarding those ads, but when the moment comes that they are ready to be involved with that line of product, they will recall that billboard ad. In similar fashion, you taking karma in front of peoples' attention will not hurt Karma.

Blog about Karma, we will send some coins your way

[easteagle13]

BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT/KARMA DISTRIBUTION GROUP LEADERS/SPEAKERS
This is one of the most important group, the source of all karma income that will ensure the success of Karma, Only the best should be the leaders here.
kosmost
Chargin
LittleDuke
cryptowho

The only way I would risk my reputation would be if this was rebooted in a legitimate and legal way.  

I think the notion of a member-owned LLC that purportedly is going to enrich its members is not at this time a viable option.

What I do have are resources and the legitimate non-profit Strength in Numbers Foundation in addition to the for profit "Vires in Numeris LLC" that is the holding company for doabitofgood.com.

I'm not anonymous -- you can find my bio at http://linkedin.com/in/dvduccini

So if you want to talk about doing this in a 120% transparent way, I'm interested.

Especially if there is a way to link the X11 based GIVEcoin chain into the mix.  I believe that all boats will rise.

Just my .02

-dvd

Hi, If you haven't noticed yet, KARMASHARES LLC is a thing of the past and this is an attempt of a clean reboot. Care to elaborate your proposals? Please lay it out as though I'm 5.

[UrsaMajorisBeta]

I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

Brand it K-Boom!

[ptman]

I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

Brand it K-Boom!

We should make our best effort to not call it a "cryptocurrencry", because that is a word most people do not know, and people tend to not like what is unknown.

We have to brainstorm a lot in order to reach a consensus on how Karma should be marketed.

[bignev]

I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

Brand it K-Boom!

We should make our best effort to not call it a "cryptocurrencry", because that is a word most people do not know, and people tend to not like what is unknown.

We have to brainstorm a lot in order to reach a consensus on how Karma should be marketed.

Good points