[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[Patel]

It will be astonishing if there could be a way to side-embed this with bitcoin (decentralized), or at least conjugate their payment terminals to each other (centralizd). Any idea?

Improved payer privacy,
e.g.
the ring signature scheme used by Monero, can reduce the
systemic risk of the transactions of particular parties being censored, protecting the fungibility
of the cryptocurrency. Improvements to this have been suggested by Maxwell and Poelstra
[MP14, Poe14b] and Back[Bac13a], which would allow for even greater privacy. Today,
400
ring signatures can be used with Monero coins, but not bitcoins; sidechains would avoid this
exclusivity.

Source: http://www.blockstream.com/sidechains.pdf

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[btc-mike]

When will a normal wallet?

Three months ago.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683365.0

I mean normal for win 32 from devs.

The developers of this coin were the major sponsors of that GUI wallet project.

There is nothing wrong with third party wallets. Having multiple wallets to serve different audiences is a good thing. All of the major wallets for Bitcoin are third party, including Electrum, Multibit, Mycelium, Blockchain.info, etc.

The developers sponsored it, decided it wasn't good enough and then started making a new one from scratch. The new one has been in development for many months.

I took that as an indication of no confidence from the development team.

[othe]

No the problem with Jojos wallet is only that .net is not suitable for Linux and Macosx.

[btc-mike]

No the problem with Jojos wallet is only that .net is not suitable for Linux and Macosx.

What about the qt wallet then?

[owlcatz]

https://forum.monero.cc/2/economics-and-trading

Anyone else get an error "Woops something went wrong" when trying to go to monero forum?

I just got it by clicking on your link... "Whoops, looks like something went wrong."

edit - going to the main forum site works fine. maybe it's just that post you are referencing got deleted? 

[othe]

No the problem with Jojos wallet is only that .net is not suitable for Linux and Macosx.

What about the qt wallet then?

Is fine; but like all CN wallets including xdn, bbr and co it uses the rpc api.

The new wallet will be native like bitcoin-qt but its still a lot of work to integrate everything etc.

[Quicken]

https://forum.monero.cc/2/economics-and-trading

Anyone else get an error "Woops something went wrong" when trying to go to monero forum?

I just got it by clicking on your link... "Whoops, looks like something went wrong."

edit - going to the main forum site works fine. maybe it's just that post you are referencing got deleted? 

That's a link to the whole Economics and Trading Section of the forum, and I noticed the same problem today when clicking on that section from the main forum page.

[Come-In-Behind]

When will a normal wallet?

Three months ago.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683365.0

I mean normal for win 32 from devs.

The developers of this coin were the major sponsors of that GUI wallet project.

There is nothing wrong with third party wallets. Having multiple wallets to serve different audiences is a good thing. All of the major wallets for Bitcoin are third party, including Electrum, Multibit, Mycelium, Blockchain.info, etc.

The developers sponsored it, decided it wasn't good enough and then started making a new one from scratch. The new one has been in development for many months.

I took that as an indication of no confidence from the development team.

Win 32.....That made me lol.

[fluffypony]

https://forum.monero.cc/2/economics-and-trading

Anyone else get an error "Woops something went wrong" when trying to go to monero forum?

I just got it by clicking on your link... "Whoops, looks like something went wrong."

edit - going to the main forum site works fine. maybe it's just that post you are referencing got deleted? 

That's a link to the whole Economics and Trading Section of the forum, and I noticed the same problem today when clicking on that section from the main forum page.

Try again - we've just deployed a fix for a bug that affected users not logged in:)

[nioc]

When will a normal wallet?

Three months ago.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683365.0

I mean normal for win 32 from devs.

The developers of this coin were the major sponsors of that GUI wallet project.

There is nothing wrong with third party wallets. Having multiple wallets to serve different audiences is a good thing. All of the major wallets for Bitcoin are third party, including Electrum, Multibit, Mycelium, Blockchain.info, etc.

The developers sponsored it, decided it wasn't good enough and then started making a new one from scratch. The new one has been in development for many months.

I took that as an indication of no confidence from the development team.

As I recall it was more like, we know the GUI we want will take a while due to the changes needed to the core to make this possible.  Core changes are a higher priority at this point.  We are offering a bounty to those that can develop a GUI for the current state of development. 

I have no idea what the state or usability of the GUIs are as the CLI works for me.  I never used command line before Monero.

[surfer43]

We have managed to recover wallets from the old server that failed to migrate to "V2": FLT, KARMA, MIN, XCR, XMR, FAIR, SUPER, TES

https://twitter.com/MintPalExchange/status/524963448917344256

[smooth]

When will a normal wallet?

Three months ago.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683365.0

I mean normal for win 32 from devs.

The developers of this coin were the major sponsors of that GUI wallet project.

There is nothing wrong with third party wallets. Having multiple wallets to serve different audiences is a good thing. All of the major wallets for Bitcoin are third party, including Electrum, Multibit, Mycelium, Blockchain.info, etc.

The developers sponsored it, decided it wasn't good enough and then started making a new one from scratch. The new one has been in development for many months.

I took that as an indication of no confidence from the development team.

"Not good enough" is a relative. If the were "not good enough" in an absolute sense, the bounty wouldn't have been awarded at all.

We are doing something (we hope will be) better, but it is also an ambitious brand new design and has always been described as a long term project. Using what exists right now makes a whole lot makes more sense than complaining that an ambitious brand new design and development project isn't done yet.

[darlidada]

We have managed to recover wallets from the old server that failed to migrate to "V2": FLT, KARMA, MIN, XCR, XMR, FAIR, SUPER, TES

https://twitter.com/MintPalExchange/status/524963448917344256

thats good no? if true statdude and everyone else will get their xmr back. hopefully he hasnt sell his account yet. would be very unfortunate.

[Quicken]

Try again - we've just deployed a fix for a bug that affected users not logged in:)

Thanks fluffypony. That works for me. 

[25hashcoin]

We have managed to recover wallets from the old server that failed to migrate to "V2": FLT, KARMA, MIN, XCR, XMR, FAIR, SUPER, TES

https://twitter.com/MintPalExchange/status/524963448917344256

thats good no? if true statdude and everyone else will get their xmr back. hopefully he hasnt sell his account yet. would be very unfortunate.

I hope its true, but there is no reason to believe anything they say. I also have 1200 XMR missing.

[owlcatz]

https://forum.monero.cc/2/economics-and-trading

Anyone else get an error "Woops something went wrong" when trying to go to monero forum?

I just got it by clicking on your link... "Whoops, looks like something went wrong."

edit - going to the main forum site works fine. maybe it's just that post you are referencing got deleted? 

That's a link to the whole Economics and Trading Section of the forum, and I noticed the same problem today when clicking on that section from the main forum page.

Try again - we've just deployed a fix for a bug that affected users not logged in:)

works now, thanks smooth.

[lebing]

In the wake of http://www.blockstream.com/ essentially making sidechains an inevitability - what is the point of holding XMR now? Wont all of the privacy Monero offers be available within the bitcoin blockchain?

[akula999]

Why is the price of XMR going down? Is this a correction?

[aminorex]

In the wake of http://www.blockstream.com/ essentially making sidechains an inevitability - what is the point of holding XMR now? Wont all of the privacy Monero offers be available within the bitcoin blockchain?

how?

[lebing]

In the wake of http://www.blockstream.com/ essentially making sidechains an inevitability - what is the point of holding XMR now? Wont all of the privacy Monero offers be available within the bitcoin blockchain?

how?

As I understand sidechains, you can essentially utilize all of the functionality of an alt while remaining on the bitcoin blockchain. This therefore removes the need for any alt, including Monero.