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January 13, 2016, 02:37:35 AM
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Depends on your retirement idea, how much you are planing to spend, and of-course where you live. I think I'm old enough in that time. You don't need too much, may be 30 BTC($10k each) is enough for your retire life after 20 years.
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January 13, 2016, 08:16:18 AM
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Depends on your retirement idea, how much you are planing to spend, and of-course where you live. I think I'm old enough in that time. You don't need too much, may be 30 BTC($10k each) is enough for your retire life after 20 years.
Generally for the common person 20 bitcoins is enough for the old life and according to price rate at that time. If you have more dream after the retirement means sure you more than 50 btc. It's upto the person
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January 13, 2016, 09:42:24 AM
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Depends on your retirement idea, how much you are planing to spend, and of-course where you live. I think I'm old enough in that time. You don't need too much, may be 30 BTC($10k each) is enough for your retire life after 20 years.

Generally, 30BTC is enough if you already have a home and have other kind of pension. Otherwise, it is not enough if you live too long.
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January 13, 2016, 09:45:24 AM
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Depends on your retirement idea, how much you are planing to spend, and of-course where you live. I think I'm old enough in that time. You don't need too much, may be 30 BTC($10k each) is enough for your retire life after 20 years.
Generally for the common person 20 bitcoins is enough for the old life and according to price rate at that time. If you have more dream after the retirement means sure you more than 50 btc. It's upto the person


Yes it totally depends on your lifestyle and the country you are living in but holding 50 btc would be enough at the time of retirement if the price of bitcoin is descent at that particular time but as future is uncertain we cannot be sure what would be the price of bitcoins at the end of 20 years.
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January 13, 2016, 10:39:31 AM
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Depends on your retirement idea, how much you are planing to spend, and of-course where you live. I think I'm old enough in that time. You don't need too much, may be 30 BTC($10k each) is enough for your retire life after 20 years.

Generally, 30BTC is enough if you already have a home and have other kind of pension. Otherwise, it is not enough if you live too long.

well it depend on the value of bitcoin, even with a home, you need at least 250K to survive 50 years, assuming the minimum 5k per year

so 30 btc need to reach the value of 8k per coins, to satisfy this thing
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January 13, 2016, 10:52:32 AM
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Depends on your retirement idea, how much you are planing to spend, and of-course where you live. I think I'm old enough in that time. You don't need too much, may be 30 BTC($10k each) is enough for your retire life after 20 years.

Here where I live you will need a minimum of €2000 per month if you want to have OK retirment days. Let's say you will spend 20 years in your retirment period, that would mean 20 years x 12 months = 240 months x €2000 = €480,000. You would need 100BTC to be priced at €5000 to retire from. And then you have nothing special.

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January 14, 2016, 08:53:59 AM
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In 20 years it might be enough for some 50 coins it will be 3 or 4 halving by that time
Only one thing is sure price will be high

If bitcoin evolve all the time and all the improvements are supported by the community, I think the price will be much higher.

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January 14, 2016, 09:38:12 AM
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In 20 years it might be enough for some 50 coins it will be 3 or 4 halving by that time
Only one thing is sure price will be high

The price becomes higher after the previous 2 halvings. So I think the price will also be higher this time.


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January 14, 2016, 01:11:01 PM
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In 20 years it might be enough for some 50 coins it will be 3 or 4 halving by that time
Only one thing is sure price will be high

If bitcoin evolve all the time and all the improvements are supported by the community, I think the price will be much higher.

Yes what bitcoin needs is the support from the community and society, once they are aware about the advantages of bitcoins there would be much more higher users of bitcoins, and bitcoin price will sure be higher in future and I guess I atleast need 50 btc in my wallet to enjoy good and comfortable retired life.
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January 14, 2016, 08:37:13 PM
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It's not easy to guess this as money required for retirement depends on many things and differs from person to person.
Mainly the geographical location and the cost of living there. I just guess and put it at 20 bitcoins though.
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January 14, 2016, 09:21:16 PM
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If we look at the prediction by various financial experts about the price then even 1 Bitcoin is sufficient to take early retirement.I also do believe in time it is quite possible to see 1 Bitcoin=100k $ when it will be traded in umbtc as a unit.

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January 14, 2016, 09:32:00 PM
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If you have in holdings between 5 to 10 Bitcoins you will not need to wait for 20 years from now.I think in few years time price will explode and you will be able to take not only early retirement but also will live a luxurious life.
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January 14, 2016, 09:36:14 PM
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This year will take the price to at least $5k so in this case you need only 20 Btc to start living a retired life.I think $100k is good enough for this at least for me is.
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January 15, 2016, 03:07:31 PM
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If you have in holdings between 5 to 10 Bitcoins you will not need to wait for 20 years from now.I think in few years time price will explode and you will be able to take not only early retirement but also will live a luxurious life.

In order for most people to live luxury life, they need about $10 million. I do not think the bitcoin price will be $1m in the next few years.

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January 15, 2016, 03:13:16 PM
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Depend on many aspect.

Let say if I have 10 btc right now, will bitcoin's value after 20 years increased or decrease ??
People need to keep trust on bitcoin to make that happen.

Let say if some hacker able to hack bitcoin in next 20 years, will bitcoin's value still same as now ?
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January 16, 2016, 11:33:47 AM
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Depend on many aspect.

Let say if I have 10 btc right now, will bitcoin's value after 20 years increased or decrease ??
People need to keep trust on bitcoin to make that happen.

Let say if some hacker able to hack bitcoin in next 20 years, will bitcoin's value still same as now ?
and many questionable fact....

I think the price will rise in long term if it survived the test of time. In short term, the price can be up and down.

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January 16, 2016, 12:31:53 PM
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It is always good to wait for sliw pruce change i hope that in 20 year or so we can live from 0.1 max a month

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January 18, 2016, 08:09:52 AM
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The amount of idiocy in this thread is just appalling. You guys are chasing away the otherwise normal (I'm not even hoping for intelligent!) people from an otherwise interesting topic, so please, stop this non-sense, and use your brain, people!


Anyone who is "hoping" that bitcoin will go to $1000-2000 in 20 years is just... seriously.

Ask any bitcoin expert, and they will tell you without exception that bitcoin is HIGH RISK. It is an "experiment", as some would call it, and can fail. Again, it is HIGH RISK!!!!!!!

So what does that mean? Well, in order for something HIGH RISK to be LUCRATIVE, it must also have something else. Can you guess what that is? No? Well, let me tell you.

IN ORDER FOR SOMETHING HIGH RISK TO BE LUCRATIVE, IT MUST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR HIGH RETURNS.

No sane person would choose a high risk option if the potential returns are less than a low risk option.

Bitcoin is currently ~$400. Going to $1000 means a 2.5x increase. $2000 is 5x, and $5000 is 12.5x.

So what kind of returns can you get from other options? Let's look at some slightly higher risk companies, companies in the tech sector. OBVIOUSLY these companies are still MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH lower risk than bitcoin. It would be like gambling $20 at normal roulettes vs playing Russian roulette.

Let's look at Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Alibaba. Some of these companies haven't even been around for 20 years, so Let's look at 10 years instead.

In the 20 years from January 1996 to jan 2016,

Apple went up ~100 times.
Microsoft went up ~10 times


From Jan 2006 to jan 2016,

Amazon went up ~13 times


It's hard to tell how much alibaba went up since they haven't been public for that long, but I know that Masayoshi Son's investment in 2000 yielded him more than 1500 times his initial investment.

These are just NORMAL tech companies, again, MUCH LESS RISKY than bitcoin. Yet even Microsoft went up 10 times in 20 years. But at that point microsoft is already a huge, established company without as high a potential. If we look at Microsoft from 1990 to the end of 1999, in that 10 years, Microsoft went up ~100 times.

Even absolutely normal and virtually risk-free companies like Johnson and Johnson, Coca cola, and many, many others rountinely make a much greater return than a mere 2.5x in TWENTY FREAKING YEARS.

You're probably not even beating inflation with a mere 2.5x return in 20 years!!!!!!!


SO WHY IN THE WORLD, WOULD YOU WANT TO INVEST IN BITCOIN, IF YOU THINK THAT ITS POTENTIAL RETURN IS THAT LOW?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuh Its absolutely idiotic, considering just how risky bitcoin is. If you're going for a 2.5x return in 20 years, just deposit your money in your Savings account. Seriously.

If bitcoin's price is a few thousand dollars in 20 years, that would mean that it has failed. Period. In which case, it would actually probably be lower than a few thousand. So in reality, the chances of bitcoin being worth x thousand in 20 years is quite small, basically non-existent.

And yet some of you go like "stop dreaming for $10,000 bitcoins and be more realistic". HA! Even if bitcoin was $10,000 each in 20 years, that would still be a failure. It would certainly not have been a good investment, CONSIDERING HOW RISKY IT IS.

Seriously people, use your brain! If you think bitcoin will fail, that's totally alright. It's a completely valid opinion, since bitcoin IS high risk. But just picking some random number that's slightly higher than the current price, and thinking "it would be nice if we reached that" without considering the timeline or anything else is just... ugh! Makes me want to throw up.
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January 18, 2016, 10:56:36 AM
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If you have in holdings between 5 to 10 Bitcoins you will not need to wait for 20 years from now.I think in few years time price will explode and you will be able to take not only early retirement but also will live a luxurious life.
agree, if you have some bitcoin, maybe 5:10 bitcoin, you can reap the profit, in a few years later. do not have to wait 10 years
more bitcoin = more profit

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January 19, 2016, 10:43:53 AM
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This year will take the price to at least $5k so in this case you need only 20 Btc to start living a retired life.I think $100k is good enough for this at least for me is.

In the Western Europe or the US, you need $1m to live comfortably and your annual income is over $60k. So you need at least 200 bitcoins.

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