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August 23, 2014, 04:46:07 PM
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It's time to give up Barrabas! I agree every single word of your last shorter and previous longer posts, but the developer boys are clearly not interested in the direction you suggest. It make lot of sense what you and Buy4Crypto write, no wonder EffectsToCause doesn't listen  Grin
You are a wise and intelligent man, not a good fit here, go to to set-up your own coin, you will be rich.

In any environment or relationship whether in business or personal that type of behavior will not fly. You can't insult people and think they will listen. You can't yell or put them down. People will grow resentful and will ditch or ignore you.


Very wise words as well! Generally I have to agree with you, but that's not so black & white. Companies don't fire the problem solver, productive, geek, intelligent guy even he pisses off everyone in the office, the productive one is there because we put up with his rudeness and directness. We are practical and interested in results. He, the rude productive delivers while the nice guys don't. Barrabas is the same, most of the time he is rude but who cares, what he says make sense, he points out the problems and suggests solutions.


Developers are active, coin is very good but I was buying at 38,900 and then again on 34,500, spend all my BTC and I thought it will be soon at 100,000 but then came that hack of mintpal and it ruined it all... do you think we will ever be back so high or should I sell all my investition?

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." (Albert Einstein)  That's what the devs boy do  Cheesy   repeating the mistakes and don't listen the wise supporters like Barrabas and Buy4Crypto.

Wait for 2-3 weeks, if nothing has changed here by then and the dev boys still so sure that what they do is all right then sell vericoin.

Sorry to hear your investment hasn't worked out. Many investors lost money with vericoin.

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It's time to give up Barrabas! I agree every single word of your last shorter and previous longer posts, but the developer boys are clearly not interested in the direction you suggest. It make lot of sense what you and Buy4Crypto write, no wonder EffectsToCause doesn't listen  Grin
You are a wise and intelligent man, not a good fit here, go to to set-up your own coin, you will be rich.

In any environment or relationship whether in business or personal that type of behavior will not fly. You can't insult people and think they will listen. You can't yell or put them down. People will grow resentful and will ditch or ignore you.


Very wise words as well! Generally I have to agree with you, but that's not so black & white. Companies don't fire the problem solver, productive, geek, intelligent guy even he pisses off everyone in the office, the productive one is there because we put up with his rudeness and directness. We are practical and interested in results. He, the rude productive delivers while the nice guys don't. Barrabas is the same, most of the time he is rude but who cares, what he says make sense, he points out the problems and suggests solutions.


Developers are active, coin is very good but I was buying at 38,900 and then again on 34,500, spend all my BTC and I thought it will be soon at 100,000 but then came that hack of mintpal and it ruined it all... do you think we will ever be back so high or should I sell all my investition?

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." (Albert Einstein)  That's what the devs boy do  Cheesy   repeating the mistakes and don't listen the wise supporters like Barrabas and Buy4Crypto.

Wait for 2-3 weeks, if nothing has changed here by then and the dev boys still so sure that what they do is all right then sell vericoin.

Sorry to hear your investment hasn't worked out. Many investors lost money with vericoin.



Hey asshole... Do you hold VRC? NO? Then fuck off little insignificant piece of shit

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Developers are active, coin is very good but I was buying at 38,900 and then again on 34,500, spend all my BTC and I thought it will be soon at 100,000 but then came that hack of mintpal and it ruined it all... do you think we will ever be back so high or should I sell all my investition?


All I see lately is one man left from the dev team - effectsToCause. He is now the frontman of the team. Patrick disappeared somewhere, not in touch with community anymore. I even suppose he had sold his stash already.
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Developers are active, coin is very good but I was buying at 38,900 and then again on 34,500, spend all my BTC and I thought it will be soon at 100,000 but then came that hack of mintpal and it ruined it all... do you think we will ever be back so high or should I sell all my investition?


All I see lately is one man left from the dev team - effectsToCause. He is now the frontman of the team. Patrick disappeared somewhere, not in touch with community anymore. I even suppose he had sold his stash already.

Bullshit, he posted here yesterday. Do your research correctly before fudding idiot
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Developers are active, coin is very good but I was buying at 38,900 and then again on 34,500, spend all my BTC and I thought it will be soon at 100,000 but then came that hack of mintpal and it ruined it all... do you think we will ever be back so high or should I sell all my investition?


All I see lately is one man left from the dev team - effectsToCause. He is now the frontman of the team. Patrick disappeared somewhere, not in touch with community anymore. I even suppose he had sold his stash already.

Bullshit, he posted here yesterday. Do your research correctly before fudding idiot

Is it so hard to accept the truth, fucking retard?
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Developers are active, coin is very good but I was buying at 38,900 and then again on 34,500, spend all my BTC and I thought it will be soon at 100,000 but then came that hack of mintpal and it ruined it all... do you think we will ever be back so high or should I sell all my investition?


All I see lately is one man left from the dev team - effectsToCause. He is now the frontman of the team. Patrick disappeared somewhere, not in touch with community anymore. I even suppose he had sold his stash already.

Bullshit, he posted here yesterday. Do your research correctly before fudding idiot

Is it so hard to accept the truth, fucking retard?

You can see from his post, he is the man of significance as he implied it above :-) That's why this this coin struggles and the price is 10k: retards and idiots like this 70 IQ ofp took over the place. The real supporters and investors left long time ago. The volume at the exchanges speaks for itself. 15 loud cheerboys clap for the devs and wise men like Barrabas is ignored. Lets hope the direction change.  
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Developers are active, coin is very good but I was buying at 38,900 and then again on 34,500, spend all my BTC and I thought it will be soon at 100,000 but then came that hack of mintpal and it ruined it all... do you think we will ever be back so high or should I sell all my investition?


All I see lately is one man left from the dev team - effectsToCause. He is now the frontman of the team. Patrick disappeared somewhere, not in touch with community anymore. I even suppose he had sold his stash already.

Bullshit, he posted here yesterday. Do your research correctly before fudding idiot

Is it so hard to accept the truth, fucking retard?

And this is why I think everyone with a vested interest in Vericoin needs to leave this forum and head over to veritalk forum. I know I am...I'm done with these childish, non constructive discussions
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So far I've never heard a proper explanation of why he had to move his coins to Bittrex when VRC was @30k. The only logical answer is to sell them.
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So far I've never heard a proper explanation of why he had to move his coins to Bittrex when VRC was @30k. The only logical answer is to sell them.
It has been posted a few times in this thread. Search for yourself.

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So far I've never heard a proper explanation of why he had to move his coins to Bittrex when VRC was @30k. The only logical answer is to sell them.
It has been posted a few times in this thread. Search for yourself.

...and the answer is?
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So far I've never heard a proper explanation of why he had to move his coins to Bittrex when VRC was @30k. The only logical answer is to sell them.

He explained it three separate times...do a search. I ain't doin it for you!
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So far I've never heard a proper explanation of why he had to move his coins to Bittrex when VRC was @30k. The only logical answer is to sell them.
It has been posted a few times in this thread. Search for yourself.

...and the answer is?

Buy4Crypto did the research and posted here a few links about pnosker 3-4 days ago. According to Buy4Crypto the links indicate pnosker is a pumper and involved in every P&D so far. Buy4Crypto seems a solid supporter, unbiased and the evidence he had collected strongly suggest something is fishy.

Still, I don't understand why the investors left vericoin and the price is only 10k.

  
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@DEVS: The community has been asking for the FORUM button on the wallet to lead to a moderated thread. Is it possible to provide this? Thanks.


We are going to do this so that there can be a non-combative, non-vulgar link in the wallet for the average person. We do intend to keep this thread as well so that there is an unmoderated place to speak freely as well. The thing is we can't convince "Aunt Emma" to use digitalcurrency and then lead her to stumble on massive repetitive and sometimes vulgar fudding at times and is quickly turned off for good.

I may even suggest a link to a support section of the VeriTalk Forum. Perhaps call it "Support", "New to VeriCoin" or the generic "Forum" is fine to. Perhaps pull a dropdown menu up off of the forum, and give them a choice on where to go. A place where a moderator can help people in a reasonable amount of time. You have community members who have shown they are more than willing to give time to help others in the past. This small attention to detail across the board would solidify the brand and make sense to people new to virtual currencies.

What doesn't make sense to everyday people is looking at roadmaps of what vericoin is, and then looking for all the features that they expect to be out, and polished. Only to find that these big deals at the time turned out to be several rushed, premature projects that, once launched failed to meet every basic objective they set out to have. To this day they are not complete, embarrassingly so.

Good suggestion regarding forum link.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but the only thing that was released unfinished was the fiat feature. This was a misstep I agree. However VeriSMS, VeriBit, VeriSend and variable interest are done, were well tested and are used in practice.

 Our current roadmap is on track and reflects the new fiat feature, as well as everything else we are working on.
This leads us to the two biggest problems in crypto. Being able to easily buy it and spend it.


VeriBit solves the spending problem mostly for within crypto usage. This is key. However getting the regular non crypto person to spend is still a challenge. Therefore we will have an optional service for spending VeriCoin with a visa card.

Regarding the cozying up with banking system argument. Let those who do not cash out their crypto into the banking system throw the first stone. This just makes that process easier.

This is how it is and we can move forward faster by utilizing it optionally.

In this context new people can say I get how to use it, now lets start earning interest. Users and demand is what we need more than anything.

Regarding the card there is not too much I can divulge until Coinsis does. However I appreciate the constructive criticisms. I will answer anything I am at liberty to. Though I do not have time to read every single forum post and still be on track with the roadmap.



This is simply amazing. Our stooge #2 and new go-to man is openly accused of trying to con Aunt Emma and of committing fraud while doing so and answers with the usual disperse tactics and common places. Amazing, simply amazing.

Listen genius, there's no way -nor should be- that Aunt Emma is ever going to invest in digital currencies. Nor should she, ok? The digital currencies are not for the consumption or investment of Aunt Emma or even -save for exceptions- baby boomers. At all. Not even remotely close to safe for them to even step timidly into that territory. What your genius idea proposed was that Aunt Emma would invest let's say $1,000 in a "convenient Vericard" and when she decides to use it, a couple of weeks later, discover that she can barely buy 1/10th of what she was able to buy two weeks earlier with her $1,000. And that is NOT INCLUDING FEES either. Get it now, genius??

When I and others refer to Joe and Jane Sixpack we are referring to active members, middle class 15-50 people that has never heard of digital currencies. Get the demographic now? Aunt Emma is not even a consideration, ok? And of those 15-50 people, you first create awareness and hope for piquing the interest of 2-3%. And you have to hit them in the gut... but with TRUTH (what a concept, ah?). They already KNOW and have painfully experienced and continue experiencing the bad that banks and credit cards have/continue inflicting in them. They WILL LISTEN to anything that claims to baypass those. whether they understand the baypass process or not.

But I am shouting in the freaking desert here, so no more. You just don't get it because you are so full of... well, it.

Now sinkraven or whatever, lets make it very clear: Not everyone in advertising is a creative person. First. Then, not everyone in advertising, who is also creative, is good, or talented, ok? That should hit home quite straight. One of the main principles in advertising, true and proven, is that repetition is the most efficient of tactics, bar none. So there.

Your advocacy or good will, team spirit and all is great... for going straight to doomdom. Just being enthusiastic, an idiotic cheerleader, doesnt give you any skills, let alone talent, ok? It doesn't matter how enthusiastic anyone is, if you send all the cheerleaders here to the US Open to compete, none will be selected even to serve as ball boys, ok?

So what we have here? Devs that have no talent/skills to technically -financially much less, marketing-wise even less- do anything for Vericoin. exhibit A. Exhibit B a graphics designer that can't get any work in the real world, exhibit B. A dev, stooge #1 that believes he's so fucking bright he can easily moderate a Google hang out, exhibit C. A guy somewhere that fancies himself as a radio host that puts up a "show" that even in this nest of delusional, demented cheerleaders gets a top audience of ...4. Exhibit D. Another "leader" that purports to publish Vericoin news that only posts exercises in nothingness that clear nothing and confuse people even more... never providing any news. Exhibit E. Stooges #1 and 2# that even after all these weeks and numerous posts still hadn't learn to reflect, restrain and only open their mouth publicly when they have something informative to communicate and do it so in a manner that resembles some intelligence and a hint of professionalism. Exhibit F... I could go on. Is this the "team" you want to assemble? It is already assembled (and I haven't even mentioned toxic boy). And already firmly on the train to Palookaville, ok?

Listen, first attempt at any, ANY solution, when you have problems, the very first step, is to recognize that you have problems. Without that, any progression is impossible because, well, you are convinced you are doing things like gangbusters. Which is the case, amazingly, in spite of the overwhelming evidence.

Stooges, all over the place, running amok.
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August 23, 2014, 06:52:47 PM
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Buy4Crypto did the research and posted here a few links about pnosker 3-4 days ago. According to Buy4Crypto the links indicate pnosker is a pumper and involved in every P&D so far. Buy4Crypto seems a solid supporter, unbiased and the evidence he had collected strongly suggest something is fishy. 

Where are the links you are talking about or a post that he made with these accusations?  I just did a search of Buy4Cryptos recent/last messages ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=263360;sa=showPosts ) and couldn't find it, genuinely curious to see this. 





Hey asshole... Do you hold VRC? NO? Then fuck off little insignificant piece of shit


Bullshit, he posted here yesterday. Do your research correctly before fudding idiot


lol, did CodeHunter get reincarnated as ofp


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August 23, 2014, 07:10:25 PM
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@DEVS: The community has been asking for the FORUM button on the wallet to lead to a moderated thread. Is it possible to provide this? Thanks.


We are going to do this so that there can be a non-combative, non-vulgar link in the wallet for the average person. We do intend to keep this thread as well so that there is an unmoderated place to speak freely as well. The thing is we can't convince "Aunt Emma" to use digitalcurrency and then lead her to stumble on massive repetitive and sometimes vulgar fudding at times and is quickly turned off for good.

I may even suggest a link to a support section of the VeriTalk Forum. Perhaps call it "Support", "New to VeriCoin" or the generic "Forum" is fine to. Perhaps pull a dropdown menu up off of the forum, and give them a choice on where to go. A place where a moderator can help people in a reasonable amount of time. You have community members who have shown they are more than willing to give time to help others in the past. This small attention to detail across the board would solidify the brand and make sense to people new to virtual currencies.

What doesn't make sense to everyday people is looking at roadmaps of what vericoin is, and then looking for all the features that they expect to be out, and polished. Only to find that these big deals at the time turned out to be several rushed, premature projects that, once launched failed to meet every basic objective they set out to have. To this day they are not complete, embarrassingly so.

Good suggestion regarding forum link.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but the only thing that was released unfinished was the fiat feature. This was a misstep I agree. However VeriSMS, VeriBit, VeriSend and variable interest are done, were well tested and are used in practice.

 Our current roadmap is on track and reflects the new fiat feature, as well as everything else we are working on.
This leads us to the two biggest problems in crypto. Being able to easily buy it and spend it.


VeriBit solves the spending problem mostly for within crypto usage. This is key. However getting the regular non crypto person to spend is still a challenge. Therefore we will have an optional service for spending VeriCoin with a visa card.

Regarding the cozying up with banking system argument. Let those who do not cash out their crypto into the banking system throw the first stone. This just makes that process easier.

This is how it is and we can move forward faster by utilizing it optionally.

In this context new people can say I get how to use it, now lets start earning interest. Users and demand is what we need more than anything.

Regarding the card there is not too much I can divulge until Coinsis does. However I appreciate the constructive criticisms. I will answer anything I am at liberty to. Though I do not have time to read every single forum post and still be on track with the roadmap.



This is simply amazing. Our stooge #2 and new go-to man is openly accused of trying to con Aunt Emma and of committing fraud while doing so and answers with the usual disperse tactics and common places. Amazing, simply amazing.

Listen genius, there's no way -nor should be- that Aunt Emma is ever going to invest in digital currencies. Nor should she, ok? The digital currencies are not for the consumption or investment of Aunt Emma or even -save for exceptions- baby boomers. At all. Not even remotely close to safe for them to even step timidly into that territory. What your genius idea proposed was that Aunt Emma would invest let's say $1,000 in a "convenient Vericard" and when she decides to use it, a couple of weeks later, discover that she can barely buy 1/10th of what she was able to buy two weeks earlier with her $1,000. And that is NOT INCLUDING FEES either. Get it now, genius??

When I and others refer to Joe and Jane Sixpack we are referring to active members, middle class 15-50 people that has never heard of digital currencies. Get the demographic now? Aunt Emma is not even a consideration, ok? And of those 15-50 people, you first create awareness and hope for piquing the interest of 2-3%. And you have to hit them in the gut... but with TRUTH (what a concept, ah?). They already KNOW and have painfully experienced and continue experiencing the bad that banks and credit cards have/continue inflicting in them. They WILL LISTEN to anything that claims to baypass those. whether they understand the baypass process or not.

But I am shouting in the freaking desert here, so no more. You just don't get it because you are so full of... well, it.

Now sinkraven or whatever, lets make it very clear: Not everyone in advertising is a creative person. First. Then, not everyone in advertising, who is also creative, is good, or talented, ok? That should hit home quite straight. One of the main principles in advertising, true and proven, is that repetition is the most efficient of tactics, bar none. So there.

Your advocacy or good will, team spirit and all is great... for going straight to doomdom. Just being enthusiastic, an idiotic cheerleader, doesnt give you any skills, let alone talent, ok? It doesn't matter how enthusiastic anyone is, if you send all the cheerleaders here to the US Open to compete, none will be selected even to serve as ball boys, ok?

So what we have here? Devs that have no talent/skills to technically -financially much less, marketing-wise even less- do anything for Vericoin. exhibit A. Exhibit B a graphics designer that can't get any work in the real world, exhibit B. A dev, stooge #1 that believes he's so fucking bright he can easily moderate a Google hang out, exhibit C. A guy somewhere that fancies himself as a radio host that puts up a "show" that even in this nest of delusional, demented cheerleaders gets a top audience of ...4. Exhibit D. Another "leader" that purports to publish Vericoin news that only posts exercises in nothingness that clear nothing and confuse people even more... never providing any news. Exhibit E. Stooges #1 and 2# that even after all these weeks and numerous posts still hadn't learn to reflect, restrain and only open their mouth publicly when they have something informative to communicate and do it so in a manner that resembles some intelligence and a hint of professionalism. Exhibit F... I could go on. Is this the "team" you want to assemble? It is already assembled (and I haven't even mentioned toxic boy). And already firmly on the train to Palookaville, ok?

Listen, first attempt at any, ANY solution, when you have problems, the very first step, is to recognize that you have problems. Without that, any progression is impossible because, well, you are convinced you are doing things like gangbusters. Which is the case, amazingly, in spite of the overwhelming evidence.

Stooges, all over the place, running amok.

This is the example I mentioned above. Most of this was rehashing previous insults, seems to be about 90% pointing out perceived problems, laced with harsh comments with pretty much zero input on what, how to fix. what usually follows is some retaliation from some other member, then 10 pages later..more bickering. Yawn.

One of my main mantra in advertising : Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

The other might help you: If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. since someone previously quoted Albert Einstein

I am not one for many words, my patience ran out. This is no longer amusing or productive. If this was your goal to turn people away, mission accomplished. You win.

Good day sir !


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So far I've never heard a proper explanation of why he had to move his coins to Bittrex when VRC was @30k. The only logical answer is to sell them.
It has been posted a few times in this thread. Search for yourself.

...and the answer is?
The answer is use the search button.

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Where is our super secret weapon Huh  can't feal the heat!!!!!!!

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Where is our super secret weapon Huh  can't feal the heat!!!!!!!

Need help ? where is our secret wepon ?

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Where is our super secret weapon Huh  can't feal the heat!!!!!!!

Need help ? where is our secret wepon ?


What are you talking about?

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the hate is hilarious and all they can say at this point is "look at your cheerleaders or all your good for is +1,+1... or the visa is useless.. get a life scraping at anything you could bash lololol... i will be on veritalk from now on this place is a cesspool of ppl who want vrc to die cause of their losses or cause no one is interested in their ideas ... even if barabbas was smart he's def not a ppl person and is def a negative to be part of anything vrc... i literally scroll through his pages of useless repetitive fud ... WHY U STILL HERE loll don't u see no one cares and no one wants a part of any of your ideas ... your either a kid that got bullied or a nerd that lost btc or an adult with absolutely no life ,sitting in front of your computer for hrs on end publishing books probably in your tighty whities with cookie crumbs all over u ... the only time we have constructive convos is when your sleeping lol... anyhow enjoy replying with another full page response ... i won't even read it lol just like the rest...

with that said we should all be on the veritalk thread discussing real things and keep this thread here for the fudders to get their daily fix...

I'm happy with the visa ,and it does help, anyone who deosnt see that is ridiculous and their dreams are in the wrong place , no crypto alt will ever become mainstream without going through steps that gets in into regular ppls hands... even with the fees! so what that there are fees its a fee so that u can go and shop at walmart or louis vitton... or u can use veribit where btc is accepted without the fees or online ... so theres a way to spend vrc in every way possible, which to me is a great step in the right direction to the masses awareness... people bashing the look of the add is even funnier.."you can get that done anywhere or you could of chose a better looking girl" lololol you guys will say anything! To me, and i run a clothing line which requires photo shoots advertising etc.. this visa ad is fresh, clean, informative ,absolutely beautiful looks very vericoin! i like the look on all the vericoin banners adds etc.. clean and proper. i don't see any other coin besides the very very few that have this kind of image that can be taken seriously ... i remember the days APPLE went through something like this...hmmm

anyhow ill let barabbas start his essay, while i work on accumulating, see you all on veritalk!!!!

oh ya and I can't go with out a little cheerleading!! GREAT WORK @effectsToCause and everyone who put in work and continues to! looking forward to accomplishing this roadmap and creating great events for vericoins vision!!

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