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July 16, 2014, 02:41:00 AM
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Please reopen registration. Or tell us when it was gonna end, alot of people missed out on this.

We might re-open in the future once Kora is better known. If this happens those who missed the date or just found out about the project will get a second chance. Stay tuned.
At this stage however we're focusing on the current list of stakeholders.

We will have a lot of stakes left over, and I've made a proposal that we use the NXT AE voting system to decide what to do democratically.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673587.msg7816967#msg7816967

The original poll showed most people who responded were in favour of distributing left over stakes to the ~1000 non-sockpuppet registration applications we received via the registration webapp.

I am in favour of keeping at least some of the stakes in trust for later distribution, as I think that is both fair, and smart, as those stakes would be extremely beneficial for later promotion when (k)Ora is more established technically, and we want to generate some interest.

Feel free to respond in the poll thread and let people know your thoughts.

IMO the greatest asset we have right now is the embryonic community we have forming around a few key ideas & goals. As far as I am concerned (k)Ora is a longer term project than many other crypto coins, and the more people we have with a stake in the medium term the better.

This isn't going to be a pump & dump, as right now we don't have any working code, and it could be quite a while before we do, so anyone who dumps their stake now can take their 5-25 cents and go and buy a lolly pop, as that's all a (k)Ora stake will be worth IMO.

We'll publish the list soon, finalise the stakeholder list, then we'll distribute the 'first' round stakes on the NXT AE. After that .... we'll all decide what to do, assuming people like the idea of using the NXT AE to decide things like this.

I really do want this to be a decentralised community, so we need a mechanism to work things out, and the NXT AE voting system *could*  be the revolutionary management tool that crypto projects have been waiting for.

If there is no leader how do WE decide what to do? We vote!! Voting is probably only relevant for really big decisions, like the left over stake issue, so we'd only use it very occasionally IMO, and we'd have established procedures to cover how the votes would be organised.

Who's ever followed a coin, invested some time and a few dollars in mining or buying coins only to see it all go down the drain because the "main guy(s)" went MIA? Sometimes those projects can recover, but that's usually because a new "main guy" steps in to fill the void. What about if there's always a void? How should "things" get worked out so a project keeps moving forward when it faces a BIG contentious decision? Direct democracy, the community has a cheap and easy to organise vote!

If you missed the registration you can still speak up here and let people know your opinion on the stake issue, and anything else.

I think having a large number of stakes in trust for later use would actually increase the long term value of the first round stakes by a larger $ amount than  if we just give everyone a bigger 'slice' of a smaller 'pie'.

People make coins successful just as much as the tech!!

If you missed out have your say now, and try and convince the ~1k stakeholders reading your post that keeping some stakes in reserve for 'FREE' distribution later will be in THEIR interest. That's my argument - You help yourself just as much by helping others to join in now.

Remember, some of the key ideas for (k)Ora so far have been stakes are FREE, we will try to distribute fairly (no socks, long period of warning, long registration period etc), and most importantly, this is a decentralised leaderless 'starfish' community, so if you want something to happen, or a particular decision to be made - SPEAK UP & JOIN IN!

Everyone interested & motivated can influence the direction of (k)Ora!!


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July 16, 2014, 07:26:02 AM
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support dev ,good plan ,need to improve the coin quickly.

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July 16, 2014, 09:53:32 AM
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support dev ,good plan ,need to improve the coin quickly.
think same
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July 16, 2014, 11:07:03 AM
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support dev ,good plan ,need to improve the coin quickly.

Hope this coin has a great future!!!

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July 16, 2014, 01:02:28 PM
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The original poll showed most people who responded were in favour of distributing left over stakes to the ~1000 non-sockpuppet registration applications we received via the registration webapp.
What is the percentage of sock-puppets?
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July 16, 2014, 02:22:02 PM
Last edit: July 16, 2014, 02:54:38 PM by Mac Red
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Current list of stakeholders

Some important notes. Please read this carefully.

1. NXT addresses are only listed partially. This is normal and doesn't mean there's anything wrong with your address. We have your whole address.
We just didn't feel it was necessary to list everyone's full address at this stage. After distribution all NXT addresses will be clearly visible for everyone to see.

2. If your NXT address has not been found in the block explorer there will be a "0" in the third column. In this case, please fix it (see link below). We must verify your address is actually valid before distribution can happen.
Once you are listed in the block explorer you'll get a "1" in the column instead. This update will not happen automatically so please be patient. You do not need to let us know you're visible in the explorer. We'll make a check for this every day.

Again, the link to the block explorer is:
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi

3. If your NXT address does not have a public key there will be a "0" in the forth column. In this case, please fix it by making an outgoing transaction. This is just for your own safety, to secure your address.
Once you got yourself a public key you'll get a "1" in the column instead. Again, this update will not happen automatically so please be patient. You do not need to let us know you got one. We'll make a check for this every day.

To summarise. If you're on the list, you think the NXT address looks good and you got a "1" in the last two columns, you don't have to do anything more right now. All is good.

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Question: My NXT Address is not correct
Answer: Send me a PM with the new one (from the same BTT account of course).

Question: I'm not on the list. Why?
Answer: There could basically be four reasons:
a) The system filtered you out as a sockpuppet (most likely). This means you used the same computer as another entry.
b) We have manually removed you from the list because your entry was more or less identical to another entry (or you simply didn't bother to fill out the form properly).
c) You actually didn't sign up (entered an incorrect BTT ID or didn't actually submit the form).
d) You haven't gotten your BTT ID verified yet. You can do this by sending me a PM. And you'll then pop up on the list if your entry is otherwise okay (should not take longer than 24 hours).

PM me if you got any questions about not being on the list. And we'll see what we can do about it. I'll respond within 48 hours.

That's all for now.

// Mac
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July 16, 2014, 02:30:33 PM
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Current list of stakeholders

Some important notes. Please read this carefully.

1. NXT addresses are only listed partially. This is normal and doesn't mean there's anything wrong with your address. We have your whole address.
We just didn't feel it was nesseasy to list everyone's full address at this stage. After distribution all NXT addresses will be clearly visible for everyone to see.

2. If your NXT address has not been found in the block explorer there will be a "0" in the third column. In this case, please fix it (see link below). We must verify your address is actually valid before distribution can happen.
Once you are listed in the block explorer you'll get a "1" in the column instead. This update will not happen automatically so please be patient. You do not need to let us know you're visible in the explorer. We'll make a check for this every day.

Again, the link to the block explorer is:
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi

3. If your NXT address does not have a public key there will be a "0" in the forth column. In this case, please fix it by making an outgoing transaction. This is just for your own safety, to secure your address.
Once you got yourself a public key you'll get a "1" in the column instead. Again, this update will not happen automatically so please be patient. You do not need to let us know you got one. We'll make a check for this every day.

To summarise. If you're on the list, you think the NXT address looks good and you got a "1" in the last two columns, you don't have to do anything more right now. All is good.

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Question: My NXT Address is not correct
Answer: Send me a PM with the new one (from the same BTT account of course).

Question: I'm not on the list. Why?
Answer: There could basically be four reasons:
a) The system filtered you out as a sockpuppet (most likely). This means you used the same computer as another entry.
b) We have manually removed you from the list because your entry was more or less identical to another entry (or you simply didn't bother to fill out the form properly).
c) You actually didn't sign up (entered an incorrect BTT ID or didn't actually submit the form).
d) You haven't gotten your BTT ID verified yet. You can do this by sending me a PM. And you'll then pop up on the list if your entry is otherwise okay (should not take longer than 24 hours).

PM me if you got any questions about not being on the list. And we'll see what we can do about it. I'll respond within 48 hours.

That's all for now.

// Mac

Great work Mac Red!! You have done a wonderful job with the registration system.

Mac Red has set a new high water mark for the crypto currency community with the (K)Ora distribution system. Very fair & transparent!

Thanks Mac Red for all you've done!!

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July 16, 2014, 02:44:39 PM
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@Kora
My pleasure.  Cool
I'm convinced Kora will go far, especially after all great feedback we've recieved. This is just the beginning!
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July 16, 2014, 02:49:20 PM
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good job Mac Red
thanks
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July 16, 2014, 03:46:12 PM
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Do you have an ETA for Kora??

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July 16, 2014, 03:47:24 PM
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On my watchlist.
much better to be in stakeholder list Grin

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July 16, 2014, 04:33:03 PM
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Do you have an ETA for Kora??

ETA on Nxt AE?

Nxt official forum at: https://nxtforum.org/
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July 16, 2014, 05:31:37 PM
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Mac Red

Titanic job !!!

THK  Smiley

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July 16, 2014, 06:11:05 PM
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It doesn't matter if something is free or not.  There's a lot of dumpers in cryptos who sell everything as soon as they get even the smallest return.

There ain't no Revolution like a NEMolution.  The only solution is Bitcoin's dissolution! NEM!
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July 16, 2014, 06:37:25 PM
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It doesn't matter if something is free or not.  There's a lot of dumpers in cryptos who sell everything as soon as they get even the smallest return.

exactly

We will have a lot of stakes left over, and I've ...

thanks to MacRed and dev team
but i think it's very bad idea to keep any amount of coin in your (dev) hands
it will certainly hurt the coin by bringing the trolls to this topic
there are always some users who will miss the distribution and you can't be responsible for em

you had a long time announcement
you had a certain period for registration
and you have your list now
please do not bring trolls to this coin

this list is maximum users that you can get (and i believe there are still many sockpuppet accounts in there)
i will support you guys anyway

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July 16, 2014, 10:04:22 PM
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Thank you Mac Red for a fantastic job!

Very clean and fair start. Lets see how far and big we all can make (K)Ora
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July 16, 2014, 11:08:41 PM
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I'm glad to see this coin moving forward.

50% of coin supply for shareholders is already quite low, I am against additional reservations, keep in mind that other 50% is already reserved for various purposes.

having public key on nxt is new kora shareholder requirement? first time i see this mentioned. may be little annoying for first time nxt users.
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July 16, 2014, 11:20:11 PM
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Ok i am a nxt noob, my address has both zeros, do i need to make a nxt transaction to be able to change that?

And if i make a transaction does that allow me to log into the nxt asset exchange? Thanks guys

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July 17, 2014, 12:17:15 AM
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welldone Mac Red
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July 17, 2014, 12:28:39 AM
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Very happy to my name in list. I will support kora, always!

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