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June 18, 2014, 10:03:13 PM
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As NEM has already launched in practice via NXT AE, stakes shouldn't be distributed to even wider audience, as this would be very unfair towards people who have bought their stake from NXT AE. The auction of around 150 stakes for BTC can be proceeded with, as this was known or should have been known by the buyers of NEM stake in NXT AE.

I would like to disagree with "As NEM has already launched in practice via NXT AE". No one has received a real NEM. No one has even run NCC or NIS outside of the core dev team.

A NEMstake on the NXT AE is merely proxy that exists solely to add liquidity to an illiquid asset (a real NEMStake).

Let's stop pretending that it launched.

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June 18, 2014, 10:03:45 PM
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Needless to say one could buy high volumes of dirt cheap NXT weeks after launch, check old trading threads. Unfortunately I missed out back then (stupid me).

Every time I come to this thread wishing to read about NEM all I see is NXT, NXT and NXT. Is it just me? Could we discuss NEM more here?
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June 18, 2014, 10:04:45 PM
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Hi I have a stake in NEM but have not "claimed" it nor have I traded it on the NXT AE.

How do you do all of this....

Can an easy on point thread be made for this?

Here you go:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650505.msg7284744#msg7284744
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June 18, 2014, 10:05:59 PM
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stakes shouldn't be distributed to even wider audience, as this would be very unfair towards people who have bought their stake from NXT AE.

Can you elaborate on how that would be unfair ?
Their shares won't get smaller by more people getting in. We're merely trying to get to those 3k stakeholders.

{troll mode on} I guess he has sock puppet accounts an he want to get as much of AE as poosible...
What I meant was that the value of the stake would naturally decrease if the unclaimed ones would be re-distributed. In my opinion that would be unfair for the ones who have bought their stakes from NXT AE as this would be unanticipated move. The auction of the 150 stakes for btc is fair as it was expected and announced _before_ the launch of NEM in NXT AE.

And gimre please don't make such accusations even though I don't have many posts. Writing in a foreign language takes great energy from me, and have chosen to stay as "a reader" on these forums. Also, you can check that I haven't claimed my stake as nxt asset nor have I any plans to do so.

That´s the point.

If you sell them, you just take money from the ones who decided to not sell their stake or even buy more, and put in developers pocket or in a developer fund. And there is already a developer fund.

Please state a decision as soon as possible.

The premise all along is that there will be 4B NEM and each NEMStake represents 1M NEM. I'm not sure I follow your point either.

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June 18, 2014, 10:07:14 PM
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There are three choices for "unclaimed coins ":

1. Distribute proportionally to all current stakeholders.

2. Destroy all the coin.

3. Form a community committee to manage the coins aka Nxt's committee style.

I am for 3. Nxt's committee has been very effective. Choice 3 gives an incentive for NEMsters to do good things for NEM.  Grin

There are really a multitude of possibilities.

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June 18, 2014, 10:11:47 PM
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The NXT IPO was closed early and without notice (that is a fact). That shut out a lot of potential investors who were waiting until the last minute to invest. They, understandably, wanted to get as much information as possible before investing. Let's not dwell on this because it is in the past, but it did happen.

Lesson: don't wait till last minute to invest.  IPO was closed on Nov 18 (after 2 months -- but yes it was sudden announcement) and Nxt was officially launched on Nov 24

The fact : NxT genesis block had 73 accounts. 8 accounts were distributed 40% of NxT. BCNext flatly refused to do taint analysis and closed the IPO suddenly. We can debate about his intention forever but that fact does not change. There are several accounts of 50 million NxT that never sold a single cent up to now. These are insider accounts because these behaviors are not the behaviors of a regular investor.

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June 18, 2014, 10:13:25 PM
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Needless to say one could buy high volumes of dirt cheap NXT weeks after launch, check old trading threads. Unfortunately I missed out back then (stupid me).

This is a good point. It was easy to get 1 million Nxt for just 1 BTC weeks after the launch, as this thread shows
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345336.0

so there was still plenty of opportunity to buy large chunk

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June 18, 2014, 10:13:30 PM
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The fact : NxT IPO

Are you a sockpuppet of TaunSew? Grin

You should overcome CfA, ramblings about NXT etc. and focus on the project. Wink
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June 18, 2014, 10:15:26 PM
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The NXT IPO was closed early and without notice (that is a fact). That shut out a lot of potential investors who were waiting until the last minute to invest. They, understandably, wanted to get as much information as possible before investing. Let's not dwell on this because it is in the past, but it did happen.

Lesson: don't wait till last minute to invest.  IPO was closed on Nov 18 (after 2 months -- but yes it was sudden announcement) and Nxt was officially launched on Nov 24

The fact : NxT genesis block had 73 accounts. 8 accounts were distributed 40% of NxT. BCNext flatly refused to do taint analysis and closed the IPO suddenly.

Care to post links to the posts? Sock puppets was not a problem back then, and since the data is still available on blockchain.info, why don't you do taint analysis and post for us?
 

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June 18, 2014, 10:17:46 PM
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The fact : NxT IPO

Are you a sockpuppet of TaunSew? Grin

He does sound like sock puppet as TaunSew is the only person who I remember who made that statement about Nxt didn't do "taint analysis". What's so hard to fool "taint analysis"? It's easy.

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June 18, 2014, 10:27:30 PM
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The NXT IPO was closed early and without notice (that is a fact). That shut out a lot of potential investors who were waiting until the last minute to invest. They, understandably, wanted to get as much information as possible before investing. Let's not dwell on this because it is in the past, but it did happen.

Lesson: don't wait till last minute to invest.  IPO was closed on Nov 18 (after 2 months -- but yes it was sudden announcement) and Nxt was officially launched on Nov 24

The fact : NxT genesis block had 73 accounts. 8 accounts were distributed 40% of NxT. BCNext flatly refused to do taint analysis and closed the IPO suddenly. We can debate about his intention forever but that fact does not change. There are several accounts of 50 million NxT that never sold a single cent up to now. These are insider accounts because these behaviors are not the behaviors of a regular investor.

Conveniently ignored Grin Nemsters ! March on.

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June 18, 2014, 10:30:00 PM
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There are several accounts of 50 million NxT that "never sold a single cent" up to now. These are insider accounts because these behaviors are not the behaviors of a regular investor.

Conveniently ignored Grin Nemsters ! March on.

Ignored because I/others don't feel this is a topic that should focus on NXT (last post of mine about it here). As you seem to be desperately asking for an answer:

Bitcoin has such accounts, NXT has such accounts and so will NEM. If you a trust in a project's success why would you sell your major stake?
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June 18, 2014, 10:30:44 PM
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There are several apps that can help split a restaurant bill with your group of friends. Can this function be built into the NEM wallet or added externally with a plugin? The result can be loaded into the payment field. Some other useful functions might be a tip calculator, a discount calculator, a simple calculator and a expenditure log.

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June 18, 2014, 10:31:32 PM
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Here is a write up by coinsource:

http://www.coinssource.com/inside-nem-new-economy-movement/
http://www.coinssource.com/nem-timeline/
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June 18, 2014, 10:36:27 PM
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There are several accounts of 50 million NxT that "never sold a single cent" up to now. These are insider accounts because these behaviors are not the behaviors of a regular investor.

Conveniently ignored Grin Nemsters ! March on.

Ignored because I/others don't feel this is a topic that should focus on NXT (last post of mine about it here). As you seem to be desperately asking for an answer:

Bitcoin has such accounts, NXT has such accounts and so will NEM. If you a trust in a project's success why would you sell your major stake?

These are insider accounts. Friends of bcnext and cfb. Key words: not selling a single cent; not normal behavior.

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June 18, 2014, 10:37:15 PM
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Jaguar0625, I want to say I don't have any problem with 25% development stakes. You guys absolutely deserve it, and all the money raised during the IPO. Far more than UF for example.

I just don't to this to overboard with there are very large amount of unclaimed stakes.


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June 18, 2014, 10:37:43 PM
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These are insider accounts. Friends of bcnext and cfb.

Why do you wish to discuss these random accusations in the NEM thread? I feel you're in the wrong thread for this.
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June 18, 2014, 10:39:25 PM
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The fact : NxT genesis block had 73 accounts. 8 accounts were distributed 40% of NxT. BCNext flatly refused to do taint analysis and closed the IPO suddenly. We can debate about his intention forever but that fact does not change. There are several accounts of 50 million NxT that never sold a single cent up to now. These are insider accounts because these behaviors are not the behaviors of a regular investor.

Not "several" but just two. What does this prove?  Maybe these guys are smarter and they know Nxt will rise even higher?


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June 18, 2014, 10:40:22 PM
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These are insider accounts. Friends of bcnext and cfb. Key words: not selling a single cent; not normal behavior.

No evidence of course, just speculation. How do we know you aren't UF's one of 2000 sock puppet accounts (with Nem stakes of course).  The fact doesn't change: Nxt IPO was open for 2 months. Anyone was free to join. The coins were distributed to everyone who joined.

Why the fuck do you keep discussing Nxt in this thread?
 
Stick to Nem discussion and I won't mention Nxt ever. Post lies about other crypto and I will correct you like I just did

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June 18, 2014, 10:42:27 PM
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Every time I come to this thread wishing to read about NEM all I see is NXT, NXT and NXT. Is it just me? Could we discuss NEM more here?

Totem22 and Eadeqa, please be kind enough to continue your Nxt fight somewhere else(maybe Nxt thread).

This is the NEM thread and we are not interested in this.

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