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June 24, 2014, 01:53:22 PM
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Guys, the alpha is almost here.

And...

I just want to say one thing:

TDMAKOTEWZNTXYDSCYKAVGRHFSE6K33BSUATKQBT

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June 24, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
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Hi Kora,

 I'm interested to hear what the bad points are and if you are correct we could try to mend the issues if possible!

Kod

I think NEM should focus on the future, it is very bright, and I am a big supporter of NEM Smiley

NEM creation & distribution were 'organic', and many aspects of distribution were designed 'on the run' so there was some confusion over policy & rules at the start, and much effort to track down sockpuppets. It all ended up OK, and as the first to attempt such a distribution, it was an admirable effort.

In retrospect I think asking for any stakeholder payment was a mistake, and I personally think UP is probably relieved to not have the problem of being responsible for an "illegal share issue" now that he has retired.

NEM has more good points than bad points.

No illegal shares. NEM is a voluntary association, not an IPO. People can get their donation to the movement back at any time (unless they cashed out on the NXT AE).

It is more like donation/ fee to join "association" than IPO. I read these in the fundraising page " the fund raising terms are subject to changes upon the discretion of the development team"; "No contractual promise is made to anyone". It is not going to be held as an IPO in any court given these terms because the basis of an IPO is a legal contract to sell something definite.   

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June 24, 2014, 01:58:28 PM
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Guys, the alpha is almost here.

And...

I just want to say one thing:

TDMAKOTEWZNTXYDSCYKAVGRHFSE6K33BSUATKQBT

Nice. Can I have one like TD-ARG etc. ?

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June 24, 2014, 02:04:32 PM
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Guys, the alpha is almost here.

And...

I just want to say one thing:

TDMAKOTEWZNTXYDSCYKAVGRHFSE6K33BSUATKQBT

Nice. Can I have one like TD-ARG etc. ?

Should be possible to mine that username.

I should start a service to mine usernames Cheesy

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June 24, 2014, 02:05:51 PM
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Guys, the alpha is almost here.

And...

I just want to say one thing:

TDMAKOTEWZNTXYDSCYKAVGRHFSE6K33BSUATKQBT

Nice. Can I have one like TD-ARG etc. ?

yes there was a vanity address generator a few pages back but it was down due to a bug. Does anyone know if its going to be back up soon?

edit:
found it but still not working

http://owon.github.io/nemaddress/

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June 24, 2014, 02:06:27 PM
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Guys, the alpha is almost here.

And...

I just want to say one thing:

TDMAKOTEWZNTXYDSCYKAVGRHFSE6K33BSUATKQBT

Nice. Can I have one like TD-ARG etc. ?

Should be possible to mine that username.

I should start a service to mine usernames Cheesy

Please do  Grin but better to make a tool that everyone can use. Because if you mine one address for me, you also have the private key of that address.

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June 24, 2014, 02:08:42 PM
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Securities are a serious thing.  Ethereum has been having legal problems as it's based in Ontario (IIRC) and they have very strict laws when it comes to securities, crowd funding, et al.

The law is such is that coin developers have to remain anonymous, unless it's Ripple style premine. No legal issues in selling magical coins but the law comes down hard when it resembles securities and funding.


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June 24, 2014, 02:13:57 PM
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I don't think anyone will care about not being in genesis block!

There's implication of this... accounts inside nemesis block are fully vested...

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June 24, 2014, 02:18:02 PM
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Are buyers of nemstake (bignem) included in the nemesis block ? I read about two weeks delays for those.

Yes, there is a 2 week delay after genesis, so that we can handle the logistics of distributing NEMstake.


Correction: most likely buyers of nemstakes on nxt ae WILL be included in nemesis (that's still being discussed)

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June 24, 2014, 02:27:41 PM
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Securities are a serious thing.  Ethereum has been having legal problems as it's based in Ontario (IIRC) and they have very strict laws when it comes to securities, crowd funding, et al.

The law is such is that coin developers have to remain anonymous, unless it's Ripple style premine. No legal issues in selling magical coins but the law comes down hard when it resembles securities and funding.



I think you are right here! If you quack like an IPO, and waddle like an IPO ...

Doesn't matter what the fine print says, NEM took payment and will deliver tokens. If a securities regulator used a common sense approach they would *probably* argue that NEM had an IPO.

When a business displays a sign like 'all care taken but no responsibility accepted' it is meaningless. If the law says you are responsible, that's the law, and displaying a sign that says otherwise wont save you in a court of law.

UtopianFuture is better off now that he is 'retired'.

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June 24, 2014, 02:35:47 PM
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I don't think anyone will care about not being in genesis block!

There's implication of this... accounts inside nemesis block are fully vested...

After talking to gimre, it looks like NXT AE NEMstake will be in NEMESIS after all.

Buy with confidence. Being in at NEMESIS will give you slightly more harvesting power at the beginning (but don't worry, it will even out once the NEM economy matures a bit).

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June 24, 2014, 02:36:02 PM
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Securities are a serious thing.  Ethereum has been having legal problems as it's based in Ontario (IIRC) and they have very strict laws when it comes to securities, crowd funding, et al.

The law is such is that coin developers have to remain anonymous, unless it's Ripple style premine. No legal issues in selling magical coins but the law comes down hard when it resembles securities and funding.

I think you are right here! If you quack like an IPO, and waddle like an IPO ...

Doesn't matter what the fine print says, NEM took payment and will deliver tokens. If a securities regulator used a common sense approach they would *probably* argue that NEM had an IPO.

When a business displays a sign like 'all care taken but no responsibility accepted' it is meaningless. If the law says you are responsible, that's the law, and displaying a sign that says otherwise wont save you in a court of law.

UtopianFuture is better off now that he is 'retired'.

Are you familiar with Howey test? If bitshare/ mastercoin people are fine, I have a hard time to see any issue with UF's approach. He probably knows more about what he was doing than most people do.

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June 24, 2014, 02:52:35 PM
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i just wnat to know how high we can go with the price ,it seems the price is 0.0000035B per nem now according to NTX-AE.

                                 
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June 24, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
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Is there a way to bid on some on the stakes on the AE without downloading the client?

Ethereum > xem
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Is there a way to bid on some on the stakes on the AE without downloading the client?
i do not think so ,you must have a nxt account and some nxtcoins.

                                 
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June 24, 2014, 02:56:18 PM
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Is there a way to bid on some on the stakes on the AE without downloading the client?

Hi! No, but using the client couldn't be easier: http://nxtra.org/nxt-wallet -- click and go.
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Is there a way to bid on some on the stakes on the AE without downloading the client?

Hi! No, but using the client couldn't be easier: http://nxtra.org/nxt-wallet -- click and go.
is it safe ??

                                 
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June 24, 2014, 03:00:16 PM
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Is there a way to bid on some on the stakes on the AE without downloading the client?

Hi! No, but using the client couldn't be easier: http://nxtra.org/nxt-wallet -- click and go.
is it safe ??

Yes, it's the official client.
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June 24, 2014, 03:01:45 PM
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Securities are a serious thing.  Ethereum has been having legal problems as it's based in Ontario (IIRC) and they have very strict laws when it comes to securities, crowd funding, et al.

The law is such is that coin developers have to remain anonymous, unless it's Ripple style premine. No legal issues in selling magical coins but the law comes down hard when it resembles securities and funding.

I think you are right here! If you quack like an IPO, and waddle like an IPO ...

Doesn't matter what the fine print says, NEM took payment and will deliver tokens. If a securities regulator used a common sense approach they would *probably* argue that NEM had an IPO.

When a business displays a sign like 'all care taken but no responsibility accepted' it is meaningless. If the law says you are responsible, that's the law, and displaying a sign that says otherwise wont save you in a court of law.

UtopianFuture is better off now that he is 'retired'.

Are you familiar with Howey test? If bitshare/ mastercoin people are fine, I have a hard time to see any issue with UF's approach. He probably knows more about what he was doing than most people do.

I honestly hope so. We're all on the same crypto team after all, and if one coin goes down, so would a lot of other ones.

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June 24, 2014, 03:03:54 PM
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The client kept burning up my laptop with DLing the blockchain and such so I uninstalled it. But I really want some NEM stake sheh...

Ethereum > xem
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