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dandruff, they gave you money, for doing nothing and you call them scam? Too bad blockchain cant be used as backbone.
I paid for my stake, I paid to invest in a new economy movement, all I got was a worthless coded client and monopoly money. As an investor we have rights to say we are unhappy with our investment. Do something and quit talking. NEM was always clearly stated as a voluntary association ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association) and not as an investment. NEM is what you secretly wish Bitcoin was: fast, stable, and secure. We've put together an amazing platform and you are more than welcome to build on top of the NEM block chain platform. Check out our API here: http://bob.nem.ninja/docs/What can I do with NEM that I can do with BTC? N O T H IN G Just curious, so hear me out. What would satisfy you so that you stop with the literally constant stream of negative comments in this thread? What would it take? Obviously you would not be spending the time to make so many posts if not for a reason, so what is the reason? What exactly are you wanting to achieve?
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wiser
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April 14, 2015, 02:18:58 AM |
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Just curious, so hear me out. What would satisfy you so that you stop with the literally constant stream of negative comments in this thread? What would it take? Obviously you would not be spending the time to make so many posts if not for a reason, so what is the reason? What exactly are you wanting to achieve?
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April 14, 2015, 02:50:50 AM |
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dandruff, they gave you money, for doing nothing and you call them scam? Too bad blockchain cant be used as backbone.
I paid for my stake, I paid to invest in a new economy movement, all I got was a worthless coded client and monopoly money. As an investor we have rights to say we are unhappy with our investment. Do something and quit talking. NEM was always clearly stated as a voluntary association ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association) and not as an investment. NEM is what you secretly wish Bitcoin was: fast, stable, and secure. We've put together an amazing platform and you are more than welcome to build on top of the NEM block chain platform. Check out our API here: http://bob.nem.ninja/docs/What can I do with NEM that I can do with BTC? N O T H IN G Just curious, so hear me out. What would satisfy you so that you stop with the literally constant stream of negative comments in this thread? What would it take? Obviously you would not be spending the time to make so many posts if not for a reason, so what is the reason? What exactly are you wanting to achieve? Just some young kid new to the game who feels he was somehow owed a massive increase in price the first few weeks of operation. Just bitter at himself projecting it on others to make himself feel better really. Yeah, the price hasnt skyrocketed (yet) but who cares. With crypto you know price point is not an accurate reflection of value. See the bigger picture and calm your ass down. The client is absolutely amazing. Im heavily invested in NEM and am not worried one bit.
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wiser
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April 14, 2015, 02:53:40 AM |
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Yeah, the price hasn't skyrocketed (yet) but who cares.
Two Chinese exchanges picked up XEM today. It could happen.
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NoirSuccubus
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April 14, 2015, 03:11:48 AM |
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Don't start going up yet
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gsxrl3oi
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April 14, 2015, 03:59:33 AM |
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we need a list of exchanges that are listing XEM. Need a simple link. hook it up please.
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Wheatclove
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April 14, 2015, 04:01:50 AM |
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I ordered a silver coin awhile back. When will I be seeing it?
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April 14, 2015, 04:06:22 AM |
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I vote for ninja launching new features in the future so people must be steadily invested to profit from news, without leeching from announcements.
This sounds good to me!
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makoto1337
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April 14, 2015, 04:07:35 AM |
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So i've done all that but when i shut down my computer with delegated harvesting running I dont generate any blocks.. or thats what seems to be the case.. What is your importance? My importance is quite high but I only generate blocks when I am logged into my wallet. I have delegated harvesting activated and running. Your node needs to be booted, with NIS running.
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makoto1337
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April 14, 2015, 04:09:31 AM |
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I ordered a silver coin awhile back. When will I be seeing it?
We are aiming to have them ordered and shipping by the fall. Also, the coins need to be redesigned with the new logo. AltNemo is making progress. Expect some ninja attacks on the old economy in the future
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April 14, 2015, 04:18:24 AM |
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This new economy sure looks a lot like the old economy to me Where did you get that picture from? Poloniex shows: Feel the XEM! 1 Makoto = $1
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April 14, 2015, 04:57:22 AM |
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If you guys would walk the walk and not blame the community for your flaws you might actually make a name for yourself. But it is nothing but lip service and quieting any criticism, sticking to the status quo I see. "Movement" my behind.
dandruff1138, We are not blaming the community for anything. The above was a clear explanation of where NEM stands, and what we have to offer now. It is also there so that people can see and understand that something has been done, but more importantly, it is there to signal that this is not a pump and dump scheme. We have just launched, are working on things, but this is just the beginning and there's still a lot to be done. We will talk about the future, but that is another story. As for the criticism, everyone can play the role of the critic, especially on bitcointalk. But it's quite something to be able to offer some thoughtful criticism, that is the tricky part and the part we are actually looking for yet mostly fail to see in your posts. Critics on this forum are a satoshi a dozen. NEM was never positioned or promoted as a pump & dump scheme. Those who feel holding onto XEM is a bad investment really should just sell out and leave. But they won't. They'll keep trolling and FUDing the thread. So thankful the forum doesn't put a cap on how many you can ignore. My ignore button just might save this thread for me. +1. Give these devs a break - they've slaved over coding and catering to everyone for more than a year. Just look at how much work they've done, just as far as community support, compared to devs on most other altcoins. And this is the thanks they get? It's not their fault that we're in a brutal crypto market. If they had done the exact same thing except launched before Nov 2013, the pricing would've looked dramatically different - even if they had done the same exact things they're doing now. We all know that. We all know that it's a tough market for all altcoins and out of their control. Bitcoin itself is in the toilet. Stop attacking one of the few dev teams on bitcointalk - this forum of hatred and misery and incompetence - that are actually delivering and continue to deliver. Stop attacking one of the few coins that has a decent change of rising above the sorry mess that crypto has become - in fact, if crypto had more dev teams like this NEM's the crypto market probably wouldn't today be the sorry mess that very few people have much confidence in anymore.
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April 14, 2015, 05:01:19 AM |
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+1. Give these devs a break - they've slaved over coding and catering to everyone for more than a year. Just look at how much work they've done, just as far as community support, compared to devs on most other altcoins. And this is the thanks they get?
It's not their fault that we're in a brutal crypto market. If they had done the exact same thing except launched before Nov 2013, the pricing would've looked dramatically different - even if they had done the same exact things they're doing now. We all know that. We all know that it's a tough market for all altcoins and out of their control. Bitcoin itself is in the toilet. Stop attacking one of the few dev teams on bitcointalk - this forum of hatred and misery and incompetence - that are actually delivering and continue to deliver.
Stop attacking one of the few coins that has a decent change of rising above the sorry mess that crypto has become - in fact, if crypto had more dev teams like this NEM's the crypto market probably wouldn't today be the sorry mess that very few people have much confidence in anymore.
That about sums it up.
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April 14, 2015, 05:06:59 AM |
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We support you DEVS. You can't please everybody. Just keep up the GREAT WORK.
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jabo38
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April 14, 2015, 05:23:54 AM |
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A brief clarification and overviewI think it's very important to understand and clarify some things here as some people are unsatisfied with our current situation and this may well be due to some unrealistic expectations. While I make this point, do note that we read everything and appreciate every bit of thoughtful criticism we can receive. After so much time and energy invested, NEM has finally launched. As you have seen, we have had a fairly smooth launch and our platform seems to be behaving as expected until now. A lot of work has been put into this, and our dev team has done everything to ensure NEM is an innovative and solid platform to build upon. Thus, our launch is a major step forward in proving that NEM is real and that our dev team can really deliver valuable innovation. But while we have launched, NEM is far from complete. In fact, all the work leading to our launch has only been our first major step in taking NEM from concept to reality. We have a great team and a solid technological foundation to build upon, so on the one hand that's everything one can wish for, but on the other, there is still a lot of work to be done. Although we are already ahead of most crypto projects, you must understand that NEM's features, killer apps and ease of use are not here yet, but are expected to be implemented until V1. This is why the price discussion, though seemingly justified now, will probably look at best negligible in the long run. We are planning to hit the masses, but not with the current version. The real journey has just begun. There will probably be a lot of hurdles and unexpected events along the road, but this will no doubt be one hell of a ride judging by all the great people we have on the team and passionate community members. What I am really saying, is that the real value of NEM lays in the future. Both dev team and marketing team have been and are still working hard because this is not the point when NEM is complete and we can relax, quite the contrary. There's still a long way to go and one year from now, NEM will probably be a lot closer to what we want. Once our we will have those things implemented, then we will be ready to offer real value and utility. That will be the point where we will hype things and everyone will hear about NEM. Right now, well, we're not there and we have work to do, but this goes one step at a time. Bottom line: The bad news is there is no guarantee in this game, despite best intentions we could fail. The good news is we have a great and passionate team which is still here and even bigger after one year, we have not run away with your money(big plus for this since it's very rare in crypto-land ) and we have delivered a solid, viable, though not yet complete product. This are the valuable things NEM has to offer now and the things with which it sets out on this journey. As it stands, chances are in our favor but there's still a long way to go, so we'd better start working smart and working together. See you later. This is a personal note and does not necessarily reflect the views of anyone else in the NEM Team. Cheers, xtester NEM marketers are a solid team and NEM devs are amazing. There is a lot of negativity and I know a lot of people wanted to wake up on launch day with a full blown ecosystem and be millionaires. That didn't happen and people are let down. Instead what we have is a very solidly built NIS with a lot of great APIs and not hardly any third party ecosystem. As time goes by NEM devs will continue to make the platform even more robust and agile and NEM marketers will help to promote an ecosystem. Life at NEM had been very busy, and is very different now after launch than before launch and again will be very different after V1 as we will have had more time to get an ecosystem going and additional features and APIs that are not and will continue to not be found elsewhere. "NEM marketers are a solid team" You can show one step from nem marketers since launch or shortly prelaunch? Nem marketing dies not exist If you want to know our recent activity, I'll try to list some. NEM marketers have a budget of exactly $0 but with that budget run Website ( http://www.nem.io/) Forum ( https://forum.ournem.com/) Facebook ( https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM) Almost 2,000 followers Twitter ( https://twitter.com/nemofficial) Almost 500 followers Reddit ( https://www.reddit.com/r/ournem) (Just starting out) Weibo ( http://weibo.com/nemchina) BTC38 ( http://www.btc38.com/altcoin/xem/) Contacted and got deals for the following exchanges and payment processor for XEM. Poloniex ( https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xem) Bittrex ( https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XEM) Coingateway ( https://coingateway.net/) And talks have been in the works for two more Chinese exchanges as well as another payment processor. The NEM marketing team makes special efforts to answer questions as soon as possible when they come up here on this thread, Telegram, forum, and Facebook too. Wrote everything on http://blog.nem.io/nem-tutorial-list/ to make sure that all the community can work NEM. Wrote a press release last week: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/more-under-development-next-generation-205200639.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=fb&fb_ref=DefaultWorking with different news outlets to get stories published about NEM Article: http://allcoinsnews.com/2015/04/07/nem-qa/Article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113839/nem-launches-targets-old-economy-with-proof-of-importanceArticle: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113698/proof-of-importance-nem-is-going-to-add-reputations-to-the-blockchainArticle: http://8btc.com/thread-15618-1-2.htmlArticle: http://www.8btc.com/nem_interview_about_poiArticle: http://www.8btc.com/nempressreleaseand more coming later. Helped to get these apps listing NEM as coin tickers: Apple: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/coinfeed-bitcoin-dogecoin/id781662999 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobnetic.coinguardian&hl=enGetting listed on CMC https://coinmarketcap.com/#BTCAnd getting listed on Cryptocoin Charts https://www.cryptocoincharts.info/coins/infoGetting listed on Coin Gecko http://www.coingecko.com/Made a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ClzvI5EFssAgain, all right now with a budget of $0. Actually worse than a budget of $0. We have been spending our own money. In my case over $600, and others have spent a lot more than me. So yes, marketing has been busy and hard at work and is still hard at work trying to make things happen in the future. Hopefully soon we will get a real budget and start to really make a movement. What a lot of people wanted was to wake up one day at launch and become millionaires with a full ecosystem up and running built on NEM. That is not realistic even in the best case scenario, but with a lot more hard work and time, it might just be possible. I know it is my intention. and since my last post yesterday, two new exchanges in China have opened up! Bter https://bter.com/trade/xem_btcBTC38 http://www.btc38.com/trade_en.html?mk_type=btc&btc38_trade_coin_name=xem
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April 14, 2015, 05:27:21 AM |
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+1. Give these devs a break - they've slaved over coding and catering to everyone for more than a year. Just look at how much work they've done, just as far as community support, compared to devs on most other altcoins. And this is the thanks they get?
It's not their fault that we're in a brutal crypto market. If they had done the exact same thing except launched before Nov 2013, the pricing would've looked dramatically different - even if they had done the same exact things they're doing now. We all know that. We all know that it's a tough market for all altcoins and out of their control. Bitcoin itself is in the toilet. Stop attacking one of the few dev teams on bitcointalk - this forum of hatred and misery and incompetence - that are actually delivering and continue to deliver.
Stop attacking one of the few coins that has a decent change of rising above the sorry mess that crypto has become - in fact, if crypto had more dev teams like this NEM's the crypto market probably wouldn't today be the sorry mess that very few people have much confidence in anymore.
That about sums it up. well made observation
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April 14, 2015, 05:37:49 AM |
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The entire crypto world is dying a slow death. There is no interest by outside world except a few hardcore speculators. People are slowly losing interest. The only real hope for revival is ethereum. If that project is picked up by some big names like IBM or Samsung, there is hope of revival (for all coins).
If ethereum fails, that would be pretty much the end of crypto experiment. By this time next year, bitcoin would be under $50 and everything will proportionally down. In five years, it will be all over with just some isolated nodes and no exchanges.
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April 14, 2015, 05:52:27 AM |
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The entire crypto world is dying a slow death. There is no interest by outside world except a few hardcore speculators. People are slowly losing interest. The only real hope for revival is ethereum. If that project is picked up by some big names like IBM or Samsung, there is hope of revival (for all coins).
If ethereum fails, that would be pretty much the end of crypto experiment. By this time next year, bitcoin would be under $50 and everything will proportionally down. In five years, it will be all over with just some isolated nodes and no exchanges.
Take a cold shower buddy! People said the exact same thing after the dot com bust, "the internet was a fad, internet based business was exaggerated", it wasn't true then, and it isn't true of crypto now. People always overshoot expectations, ridiculous crap gets released and makes money from early enthusiasm, then the crash, then reality sets in. Too much mania on this forum ... highs are way too big, and lows are over the top. Blockchain tech and decentralization is too compelling to be a fad. NEM will do very well, just not in 4 weeks.
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April 14, 2015, 05:55:40 AM |
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The entire crypto world is dying a slow death. There is no interest by outside world except a few hardcore speculators. People are slowly losing interest. The only real hope for revival is ethereum. If that project is picked up by some big names like IBM or Samsung, there is hope of revival (for all coins).
If ethereum fails, that would be pretty much the end of crypto experiment. By this time next year, bitcoin would be under $50 and everything will proportionally down. In five years, it will be all over with just some isolated nodes and no exchanges.
Yes, the GoldmanSachsian Übermensch at Ethereum are the only hope for crypto Looks like someone should buy some indulgences for FUDing: https://forum.ournem.com/general-discussion/nem-confessional/msg16219/#msg16219
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