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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus  (Read 259710 times)
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September 16, 2015, 05:53:04 PM
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Which sportsbooks other than Directbet has instant payouts? Only asking because that's the most important thing for me, I saw some of the complaints in this section where some people had to wait upwards of 24 hours after initiating the withdrawal and this is not acceptable to me at all. Also, I don't see why Directbet is still stuck on 'C', I don't think these ratings are accurate, to me they seem bias, no offense. A Poll should have been really useful in determining the real results because it seems even after inputs from various members some of the sportsbooks are wrongly rated.

It's well known that Peeps Place is highly biased against DirectBet. This stems back to last year, if you check the old thread you will see that basically DirectBet accused Peeps of lowering their rating as DirectBet refused to pay Peeps for advertising.

Pretty simple stuff and very plausible. As you and others have mentioned, there's no reason for DB to still be a C category book.

DirectBet was a fairly new book unhappy with their rating. They spammed and shilled daily which caused the closing of the original thread.

The only rule for books was to keep their conversation to their own book. DirectBet refused to do this. DirectBet falsely claimed that Anonibet scammed posters in 4 different contests.

Now that DirectBet has become civilized, they no longer send in shills with false claims against other books.

If DirectBet can figure out a way to insure immediate confirmation of bets, then the rating will be raised. As of this time the possibility exists that a player may not get a confirmation/rejection of a bet in an acceptable time period.


I see many negative posts against cloudbet, and I was afraid CB is a scam, but I follow some high level forum members, they said CB is best one in btc community, I trusted them, I found CB is the best one, with instant deposits and instant withdrawals in most cases, CB has highest odds in the industry, even higher than bwin, williamhill, bet 365, only lower than pinnacle. Now I doubt those post negative posts on CB's OP are directbet's shill accounts? Btw, I hate DB, ugly UI and retarded low odds- lowest in industry.

Thanks for the input on Cloudbet. I don't see any evidence of shill/ghost accounts in this thread here. They seem to be true opinions and experiences.

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September 16, 2015, 10:08:19 PM
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Which sportsbooks other than Directbet has instant payouts? Only asking because that's the most important thing for me, I saw some of the complaints in this section where some people had to wait upwards of 24 hours after initiating the withdrawal and this is not acceptable to me at all. Also, I don't see why Directbet is still stuck on 'C', I don't think these ratings are accurate, to me they seem bias, no offense. A Poll should have been really useful in determining the real results because it seems even after inputs from various members some of the sportsbooks are wrongly rated.

It's well known that Peeps Place is highly biased against DirectBet. This stems back to last year, if you check the old thread you will see that basically DirectBet accused Peeps of lowering their rating as DirectBet refused to pay Peeps for advertising.

Pretty simple stuff and very plausible. As you and others have mentioned, there's no reason for DB to still be a C category book.

DirectBet was a fairly new book unhappy with their rating. They spammed and shilled daily which caused the closing of the original thread.

The only rule for books was to keep their conversation to their own book. DirectBet refused to do this. DirectBet falsely claimed that Anonibet scammed posters in 4 different contests.

Now that DirectBet has become civilized, they no longer send in shills with false claims against other books.

If DirectBet can figure out a way to insure immediate confirmation of bets, then the rating will be raised. As of this time the possibility exists that a player may not get a confirmation/rejection of a bet in an acceptable time period.


For another point of view, see post #1386:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.1380
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September 17, 2015, 03:15:50 AM
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Which sportsbooks other than Directbet has instant payouts? Only asking because that's the most important thing for me, I saw some of the complaints in this section where some people had to wait upwards of 24 hours after initiating the withdrawal and this is not acceptable to me at all. Also, I don't see why Directbet is still stuck on 'C', I don't think these ratings are accurate, to me they seem bias, no offense. A Poll should have been really useful in determining the real results because it seems even after inputs from various members some of the sportsbooks are wrongly rated.

It's well known that Peeps Place is highly biased against DirectBet. This stems back to last year, if you check the old thread you will see that basically DirectBet accused Peeps of lowering their rating as DirectBet refused to pay Peeps for advertising.

Pretty simple stuff and very plausible. As you and others have mentioned, there's no reason for DB to still be a C category book.

DirectBet was a fairly new book unhappy with their rating. They spammed and shilled daily which caused the closing of the original thread.

The only rule for books was to keep their conversation to their own book. DirectBet refused to do this. DirectBet falsely claimed that Anonibet scammed posters in 4 different contests.

Now that DirectBet has become civilized, they no longer send in shills with false claims against other books.

If DirectBet can figure out a way to insure immediate confirmation of bets, then the rating will be raised. As of this time the possibility exists that a player may not get a confirmation/rejection of a bet in an acceptable time period.


For another point of view, see post #1386:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.1380
gogo- the change in ratings was done in large part to you saying that books should have a proven track record. That's why the 2 year minimum was added.




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September 17, 2015, 05:44:30 AM
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Which sportsbooks other than Directbet has instant payouts? Only asking because that's the most important thing for me, I saw some of the complaints in this section where some people had to wait upwards of 24 hours after initiating the withdrawal and this is not acceptable to me at all. Also, I don't see why Directbet is still stuck on 'C', I don't think these ratings are accurate, to me they seem bias, no offense. A Poll should have been really useful in determining the real results because it seems even after inputs from various members some of the sportsbooks are wrongly rated.

It's well known that Peeps Place is highly biased against DirectBet. This stems back to last year, if you check the old thread you will see that basically DirectBet accused Peeps of lowering their rating as DirectBet refused to pay Peeps for advertising.

Pretty simple stuff and very plausible. As you and others have mentioned, there's no reason for DB to still be a C category book.

DirectBet was a fairly new book unhappy with their rating. They spammed and shilled daily which caused the closing of the original thread.

The only rule for books was to keep their conversation to their own book. DirectBet refused to do this. DirectBet falsely claimed that Anonibet scammed posters in 4 different contests.

Now that DirectBet has become civilized, they no longer send in shills with false claims against other books.

If DirectBet can figure out a way to insure immediate confirmation of bets, then the rating will be raised. As of this time the possibility exists that a player may not get a confirmation/rejection of a bet in an acceptable time period.


For another point of view, see post #1386:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.1380
gogo- the change in ratings was done in large part to you saying that books should have a proven track record. That's why the 2 year minimum was added.


"gogo- the change in ratings was done in large part to you saying that books should have a proven track record. That's why the 2 year minimum was added."


Wasn't aware of that.


This is the first time you've stated that a comment of mine is in large part responsible for you changing the rating system. And it is now 15 months after you made the change.

DirectBet's explanation is more likely:


"I went over the list of criteria, one by one, and proved that in each and every category we are as good or better than Anonibet. And so I asked Peeps why we are rated lower ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg6137493#msg6137493

Just a few hours later the ratings criteria have suddenly changed !!! now the only criteria used to determine the rating is the book opening date. This was done so that Anonibet can be the only Bitcoin Sportsbook with a rating of A and they were also granted the max possible rating of A, on top of all other books. Our rating on the other hand was reduced to C."


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.1380



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September 17, 2015, 06:15:38 AM
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Gogo-  If it wasn't you that asked for a 2 year history before a book could be rated an "A", then it was another guy very familiar with both fiat and bitcoin books. I assumed it was you but could be mistaken. It's in the thread. Others asked for a stricter guidelines for grades and this was implemented.

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A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

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September 17, 2015, 07:23:03 AM
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If DirectBet can figure out a way to insure immediate confirmation of bets, then the rating will be raised. As of this time the possibility exists that a player may not get a confirmation/rejection of a bet in an acceptable time period.

All the bets that we receive are confirmed instantly upon arrival.

It is true that in our early days a few bets arrived in delay, but we solved that more than a year ago by connecting to additional nodes in the Bitcoin network.

In addition, we do offer an option to deposit first and later get the bet confirmed instantly whenever you are ready to place it, just like you do with deposit books. This is useful in cases where you cash out from an Exchange or another Sportsbook directly to your bet address, the bet is time sensitive and you are not sure whether your cash out will be processed immediately by the 3rd party.

Instructions on how to deposit first can be found here :

https://directbet.eu/FAQ.cshtml#CancelDelayedBet

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September 18, 2015, 12:32:33 PM
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Directbet absolutely deserves an A.
Nice giveaways, many sports to bet on and I also appreciate there is no account needed.
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September 18, 2015, 09:40:34 PM
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Directbet.eu no doubt deserve A ratings for  instant services.
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September 19, 2015, 11:45:59 AM
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I always bet on directbet
for this i give Ratings A
Good luck Directdice

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September 24, 2015, 04:43:18 PM
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in cloudbet I have few payments pending for ~6 hours, not that satisfying for a top BTC sportsbook... they don't have clear standards on auto/manual more like Nitrogen now.

There grading is excellent but they need to speed this up....

Directbet deserves an A in my opinion, fast, easy and great support although I had an unpleasant experience with a bet confimation odds recently but not their fault most likely.
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September 24, 2015, 04:53:40 PM
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in cloudbet I have few payments pending for ~6 hours, not that satisfying for a top BTC sportsbook... they don't have clear standards on auto/manual more like Nitrogen now.

There grading is excellent but they need to speed this up....

Directbet deserves an A in my opinion, fast, easy and great support although I had an unpleasant experience with a bet confimation odds recently but not their fault most likely.

The cloudbet thread consistently has people complaining of payments taking hours to days.

Also consistent complaints of waiting many days for a response from their cs.

A book taking some of the bigget bets (if not the biggest) on the net not being able to afford 24/7 live chat, or even enough cs people to be able to respond promptly,  is disturbing.
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September 24, 2015, 04:59:14 PM
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Kudos to Anonibet for having what appears to be 24/7 live chat support.

This is something every book should have.
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September 24, 2015, 05:07:06 PM
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in cloudbet I have few payments pending for ~6 hours, not that satisfying for a top BTC sportsbook... they don't have clear standards on auto/manual more like Nitrogen now.

There grading is excellent but they need to speed this up....

Directbet deserves an A in my opinion, fast, easy and great support although I had an unpleasant experience with a bet confimation odds recently but not their fault most likely.

The cloudbet thread consistently has people complaining of payments taking hours to days.

Also consistent complaints of waiting many days for a response from their cs.

A book taking some of the bigget bets (if not the biggest) on the net not being able to afford 24/7 live chat, or even enough cs people to be able to respond promptly,  is disturbing.

haha, maybe I am the lucky one? I withdrew 1 btc from cloudbet, it was instant, and then i withdrew 18.2btc, i only waited for 1 hour and got my payment, I am pretty sure they are fast, at least to me, I just wonder how much btc do others withdraw, is it larger than 18btc?
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September 24, 2015, 05:22:54 PM
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The best sportbook i ever use is Bet365.
Payout can be delay 30 minute but most of time they pay me instant.

I'm very honest person
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September 25, 2015, 06:55:26 AM
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Update:
I received the pending payments, most likely it was just a human delay but they should staff up if they are short on people.
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September 25, 2015, 09:48:51 AM
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I rate directbet.eu with an A
Does not require an account. Easy to bet, decent amount of events to bet in, odds as good as the competition.
Also very good promotions, like the free tipsters competition they are running that is now in the second edition and with very decent prizes and an opportunity for everyone.

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September 25, 2015, 11:51:40 AM
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in cloudbet I have few payments pending for ~6 hours, not that satisfying for a top BTC sportsbook... they don't have clear standards on auto/manual more like Nitrogen now.

There grading is excellent but they need to speed this up....

Directbet deserves an A in my opinion, fast, easy and great support although I had an unpleasant experience with a bet confimation odds recently but not their fault most likely.

The cloudbet thread consistently has people complaining of payments taking hours to days.

Also consistent complaints of waiting many days for a response from their cs.

A book taking some of the bigget bets (if not the biggest) on the net not being able to afford 24/7 live chat, or even enough cs people to be able to respond promptly,  is disturbing.

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September 27, 2015, 08:57:05 AM
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Directbet.eu  i give ratings A+
WD instans dont have problem WD  Wink
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