[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[shlsumy]

So. Crowetic decided something without community permission. I post screenshots from slack. Also look how our "PR master" is kind fo community. OPEN SOURCE SCREEMING IDIOTS. Nice.
Crowetic - You are not king of burst. Honestly you are noone. Just normal community member. Your PR "organisation" did nothing for burst. You are not dev and you will not take any decission without community voting and permission. So noone suuported you. IMO you are done.

Screenshots

http://s16.postimg.org/8ulh9csoh/image.jpg
http://s16.postimg.org/udb9nvb5d/image.jpg

how sign in to our slack?

[Merick]

So. Crowetic decided something without community permission. I post screenshots from slack. Also look how our "PR master" is kind fo community. OPEN SOURCE SCREEMING IDIOTS. Nice.
Crowetic - You are not king of burst. Honestly you are noone. Just normal community member. Your PR "organisation" did nothing for burst. You are not dev and you will not take any decission without community voting and permission. So noone suuported you. IMO you are done.

Screenshots

Looks like that quote is talking about those people screaming about NON-OPEN SOURCE software. If I remeber correctly, Crow has stated that any released code would be OPEN SOURCE.

People continuing to complain about a moot point then deserve his label.  I don't personally see anything wrong with his statement.  Crow may not be the Burst Dev, but it is hard to argue that he and the team have not provided a lot of good to the coin.

Just my 2Burst

[Blago]

...I post screenshots from slack...
[cut]

dirty linen...
Many men, many minds. Opinions differ.
No man is wise at all times.

[pinballdude]

So. Crowetic decided something without community permission. I post screenshots from slack. Also look how our "PR master" is kind fo community. OPEN SOURCE SCREEMING IDIOTS. Nice.
Crowetic - You are not king of burst. Honestly you are noone. Just normal community member. Your PR "organisation" did nothing for burst. You are not dev and you will not take any decission without community voting and permission. So noone suuported you. IMO you are done.

Screenshots

I see no problem in what was done, if for some reason people want it otherwise, they'll fork themselves and eventually we'll assemble on a fork we like. We should be happy that crowetic is a man of action, and forking cannot bring harm to anyone anyway.

[pinballdude]

btw. slightly confused... in the slack i have ( https://burstcoin.slack.com/messages/software_development/team/ ) i can't see the discussion from the screenshot. Do we have two slack accounts for burst, and am i in the old one?

[daWallet]

btw. slightly confused... in the slack i have ( https://burstcoin.slack.com/messages/software_development/team/ ) i can't see the discussion from the screenshot. Do we have two slack accounts for burst, and am i in the old one?

There is the old "PR Team"-Slack which transforms slowly to a developers chatroom and a community slack which is for discussion but sadly very quiet. If someone wants to get invited to second, send me a pm with your email address.

What duncan_idaho did here is very bad style. Posting intern communication to the public. It's out of context anyway. It's difficult to understand what crowetic is saying - but for sure not what duncan_idaho is interpreting here.

[Erkallys]

So. Crowetic decided something without community permission. I post screenshots from slack. Also look how our "PR master" is kind fo community. OPEN SOURCE SCREEMING IDIOTS. Nice.
Crowetic - You are not king of burst. Honestly you are noone. Just normal community member. Your PR "organisation" did nothing for burst. You are not dev and you will not take any decission without community voting and permission. So noone suuported you. IMO you are done.

Screenshots

Crowetic is a very trusted member of BURST community. He's very helpful. So, if you think he did nothing (it's indeed you're wrong saying this), I can say he helped me a lot. So plus being a great plus for BURST, he's a great plus for the newbies. If he hadn't be there when I needed, I'd not be here.

[callmejack]

Question for data storage specialist

I have network array EMC VNX3100 with about 14TB of storage. Is it good idea to share it to VMware esxi storage adapter via NFS and mount it to for example ubuntu virtual machine and use it for burst ? How many RAM i have to allocate do 3TB plot under linux ?

esxi and nfs storage for virtual disks is a really bad idea.
the VNX3100 should be capable of iSCSI which performs much better.
mounting the nfs share from within the virtual machine should be sufficient to store plots.

[zippolo]

btw. slightly confused... in the slack i have ( https://burstcoin.slack.com/messages/software_development/team/ ) i can't see the discussion from the screenshot. Do we have two slack accounts for burst, and am i in the old one?

Same here

[crowetic]

So. Crowetic decided something without community permission. I post screenshots from slack. Also look how our "PR master" is kind fo community. OPEN SOURCE SCREEMING IDIOTS. Nice.
Crowetic - You are not king of burst. Honestly you are noone. Just normal community member. Your PR "organisation" did nothing for burst. You are not dev and you will not take any decission without community voting and permission. So noone suuported you. IMO you are done.

Screenshots

Uh, I really don't see what you're trying to say here... but yea, I forked to my github as a test to see how it was done, then came into the team chat so that I could ask if anyone else had a git that they'd like to use for the new main. Tiga said he had made a burst-team git, and so we are probably going to use that. Then he invited me to be part of it.

I don't see how this has anything to do with anything... Now it is BAD that I want to keep BURST development ABLE to move forward? Interesting...

Do you see anywhere that says "I updated this without saying anything, and now this is this! BWAHAHAHA!"... No? I didn't think so. All I did, which I haven't mentioned yet to the community because it wasn't fully done yet, is contacted poloniex and made sure that if BURST were to go with a new main git, they'd be accepting. Which they were. So YAY! This means that BURST development can go on, even if main dev doesn't return. This is what I would call, a GOOD thing.

Oh, another thing... the only one screaming about closed source, was you. Maybe that's why this offended you and no one else even knows what is going on. Just to clarify... BURST is an OPEN SOURCE project, and it will never be anything but open source. As if this needed to be explained...


I just don't get what you're trying to do here man... but what you seem to be accomplishing, is making yourself look like a fool.

[wmikrut]

Well, I am convinced.
Two screen shots out of context... that seals it... Crow is trying to take over the world...
 

[Irontiga]

Well, I am convinced.
Two screen shots out of context... that seals it... Crow is trying to take over the world...
 

Daym, I know right....maybe he'll make me a PRINCE 

On topic...sort of, we have 3 slacks atm, the *team*'s slack, the community slack, and our new self hosted slack alternative. We invite everyone to sign up here: chat.burst-team.us:3000. It will become the ONLY slack which I use soon. There is an ability for private groups, so I suppose that's where people can chat about secret stuff ;P. Come on people, signup and come talk to me

[haitch]

Well, I am convinced.
Two screen shots out of context... that seals it... Crow is trying to take over the world...
 

Daym, I know right....maybe he'll make me a PRINCE 

On topic...sort of, we have 3 slacks atm, the *team*'s slack, the community slack, and our new self hosted slack alternative. We invite everyone to sign up here: chat.burst-team.us:3000. It will become the ONLY slack which I use soon. There is an ability for private groups, so I suppose that's where people can chat about secret stuff ;P. Come on people, signup and come talk to me

As 'tiga posted burst-team chat is available at chat.burst-team.us:3000, we also have cynin.burst-team.us which is openly available, will be a repository of files, blogs, articles, links, along with a discussion area. Consider chat as a real time chat resource, cynin as a more structured forum/repository resource.

H.

[BurstIncomeAsset]

Sorry for not being on these days, I was busy but now I`m back.

I noticed that the burst forum is down, so that should be fixed soon.

Also with INCOME we are standing pretty good, the price has rise to 28 BURST ,and also BURST price is now at 31 satoshi, so we are making big progresses.

I will report on the fund status at 20:20 UTC, if the forum will be on. We made some big gains since I reported last time.

[vaxman]

Question for data storage specialist

I have network array EMC VNX3100 with about 14TB of storage. Is it good idea to share it to VMware esxi storage adapter via NFS and mount it to for example ubuntu virtual machine and use it for burst ? How many RAM i have to allocate do 3TB plot under linux ?

esxi and nfs storage for virtual disks is a really bad idea.
the VNX3100 should be capable of iSCSI which performs much better.
mounting the nfs share from within the virtual machine should be sufficient to store plots.

You should avoid having your 14TB of plots inside an ESX-provided target, as this will trash your ESX' caching and therefore significantly impact all other VMs. That problem will not occur when your mining-VM has the VNX-provided nfs mounted directly.

Further, if you have a
1. Direct-Path capable setup (VT-d, directly mapping an PCIe-Ethernet Port into the VM) or have a  
2. VT-c / SR-IOV capable NIC (mapping a VF, virtual function, NIC directly into the VM)
you reduce the impact on the Host/other VMs, as the VM "talks" directly to the NIC without going through the ESX vmnet/switching layer.

14 TB ( -> 3.4 GB/4 minutes, or 1.22 TB/day) may not seem much at first, but if this is a "shared production" setup the impact may be visible.
 

[arloseb]

Is still worth mining burst?

[bobafett]

Mining makes at this prices only sence if you alteady have the hardware.

[pinballdude]

Is still worth mining burst?

You get 2.5 times as many burst for your mining efforts right now, than you got a few months ago.  The number of burst ever existing is finite and fixed. So you get more burst by mining now, than you have been able to for a long time.

Question is, how long will it last.. if the difficulty rises again, you might not get a lot of burst from your mining efforts, and you might have been better off just buying burst outright at the exchanges. It is not a simple calculation, factors include :

do you sell mined burst or keep them
will burst rise in price or fall in price going forward
price and choice of hardware
electricity cost
expenses for setting up and maintaining - your time, what value do you put on it
risk tolerance - are you ready to make nothing, or hit the jackpot, or would you rather just make a little safe money?
resale price of disks and hardware
and how long will your disks last before breaking down.

reg. the breaking down part, i had a 3TB western digital green drive crash, that was built late 2014. That's kinda new. However, i have 33 other drives of various makes and models, that work just fine, so it seems burst is not killing them or anything like that.

[daWallet]

Is still worth mining burst?

An analogy how Burst differs from Bitcoin or other Proof of Work Coins:

Imagine you live in a house in a cold country and you don't want to use the only (central)heating company of your region because it's corrupt and expensive.

Bitcoin:
You have an oven (CPU) that is unused 99% of its time. You decide to heat your house with it. It takes significant electricity but electricity price is low. Soon bigger and more efficient ovens are available on the market (GPU) and you're able to heat your own house completely and even sell heat to your neighborhood. As more people start to heat their houses with ovens to be independent electricity price rises significantly (difficulty rises).
Later few companies develop heatpumps that are even more efficient than every oven (ASIC) but the technology is expensive, hard to get on the market and has very long delivery times. A heatpump owner can provide a small town with relatively cheap heat and forces everybody to turn off their inefficient ovens (centralization). For more profit heatpump owners move to countries with very low electricity prices and send their heat all over the world.

Burst:
You have an abundant resource at home like waste which was useless before (like Mr. Fusion in Back to the future). You can heat your house with it and if you need more you can find it everywhere. It stays decentralized because everybody uses their own abundant ressources.

So yes - it's worth mining.

[Erkallys]

Is still worth mining burst?

An analogy how Burst differs from Bitcoin or other Proof of Work Coins:

Imagine you live in a house in a cold country and you don't want to use the only (central)heating company of your region because it's corrupt and expensive.

Bitcoin:
You have an oven (CPU) that is unused 99% of its time. You decide to heat your house with it. It takes significant electricity but electricity price is low. Soon bigger and more efficient ovens are available on the market (GPU) and you're able to heat your own house completely and even sell heat to your neighborhood. As more people start to heat their houses with ovens to be independent electricity price rises significantly (difficulty rises).
Later few companies develop heatpumps that are even more efficient than every oven (ASIC) but the technology is expensive, hard to get on the market and has very long delivery times. A heatpump owner can provide a small town with relatively cheap heat and forces everybody to turn off their inefficient ovens (centralization). For more profit heatpump owners move to countries with very low electricity prices and send their heat all over the world.

Burst:
You have an abundant resource at home like waste which was useless before (like Mr. Fusion in Back to the future). You can heat your house with it and if you need more you can find it everywhere. It stays decentralized because everybody uses their own abundant ressources.

So yes - it's worth mining.

Really true analogy and good. I'd say it's worth to mine for several points :

• BURST price can only go higher since it's pretty low right now
• BURST won't kill your HDDs
• Since they can still work you can resell them
• Even if you do not profit or not a lot, you bought nice HDDs that will be usefull for you

Just do not put your life savings in it and everything will be right.