[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[yeponlyone]

Yes it fluctuates but seems like the network size is decreasing again:

there is a bug in that graph, the very last down indication is not really there.

nw size is right now at BaseTarget 2892701  just below 3m that is 3 times more burst to remaining miners compared to when we were at 1m  i'm happy with that. Not sure at what basetarget bitladen would be able to attack but i would guess more like 15m or perhaps 10m.

Thanks for the info! Is it a bug in https://bchain.info/BURST/graph too...?

[Merick]

We all agree that the network size should increase. Many people said they will add more TB. However, when I look at the statistics, I see still less network size:

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Current time: 2015-09-14 02:03:38 UTC
Block: 142,510
Difficulty: 5,201
Est. Networksize (PB): 5.453320418537

BURST.MiningHere.com
Pool balance: 61,077
Registered Miners: 537

burst.ninja
Pool balance: 16,933
Registered Miners: 413

burst.poolto.be
Pool balance: 324
Registered Miners: 258

cryptomining.farm
Pool balance: 188,196
Registered Miners: 1,595

DevPool v2
Pool balance: 596,899
Registered Miners: 556

mining.tompool.org
Pool balance: 482
Registered Miners: 55

pool.blago
Pool balance: 4
Registered Miners: 114

pool.burstcoin.de
Pool balance: 25,368
Registered Miners: 126

pool.burstcoin.it
Pool balance: 37
Registered Miners: 56

Either people are DOING differntly then saying or something is going on.

Look at the latest miner stats:

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[ 21.87% ] BURST-KQ2P-FWCW-AAYU-D9G24 (551) /bin/laden
[ 4.84% ] BURST-3N7E-CX8T-K6AM-D6Q4N (122)
[ 4.44% ] BURST-A7NY-ESG8-9VAT-DQJVF (112) M2
[ 2.82% ] BURST-5M3F-REHB-PWRE-6E4HP (71) M1
[ 2.74% ] BURST-ELAL-S7GX-6ASS-4RSAM (69) Milan Beograd
[ 1.87% ] BURST-42JY-E6TZ-885E-AZ9HK (47) <-= Pythagorean Switch =->
[ 1.79% ] BURST-XNS5-62HN-J3UY-79THE (45)
[ 1.55% ] BURST-JPV8-RWMY-NS4H-A5S5W (39) [ pool: 9075827522156768698 ]
[ 1.51% ] BURST-SDAC-FFUD-SMCB-D3Q74 (38)
[ 1.15% ] BURST-MKAD-NGL2-75LH-EPA4Y (29) MinerBeast [ pool: 21869187791279079 ]
[ 1.11% ] BURST-ACGB-YGHQ-G9ZL-5XD7U (28) Haitch ACGB [ pool: 12468105956737329840 ]
[ 1.07% ] BURST-WDK8-EYW8-NHMQ-77777 (27)
[ 0.99% ] BURST-XGHW-Z7GY-9HZ6-7P4F4 (25) Andrew [ pool: 12468105956737329840 ]
[ 0.91% ] BURST-BY7U-A5EF-6ACN-4MFYL (23) [ pool: 21869187791279079 ]
[ 0.79% ] BURST-Y2QP-GAKA-AECZ-9KQVA (20) No Name Set [ pool: 21869187791279079 ]
[ 0.79% ] BURST-FDUK-NG2J-5LFN-6EP8H (20) UD3
[ 0.75% ] BURST-UADJ-9AFK-Q62J-5YV2K (19)
[ 0.75% ] BURST-L2V2-AXNC-VW9G-9XBWM (19)
[ 0.75% ] BURST-DW86-ZA9J-DA5W-HTMJX (19) UP4
[ 0.75% ] BURST-HPEL-F589-ULTK-2F5MN (19) Evil Genius
[ 0.71% ] BURST-PC4J-ETQQ-VYHC-BPYHP (18) smaxer
[ 0.71% ] BURST-XNKK-XTSH-78J3-9SAAE (18) PinballDude
[ 0.71% ] BURST-3XFG-2JSB-HCUX-7HXBC (18) LVB - 100 TB - solo
[ 0.71% ] BURST-B2XN-WGYA-ND3F-2LHHS (18)
[ 0.67% ] BURST-EHY5-GRJU-6L6P-8C6FQ (17) [ pool: 21869187791279079 ]
[ 0.67% ] BURST-9LQ3-ZCH9-VDPH-8YUQK (17)
[ 0.67% ] BURST-8XMM-697F-6T5D-C49LZ (17) manini farm [ pool: 12468105956737329840 ]
[ 0.67% ] BURST-YW79-8Q33-PBQL-HD8N6 (17) [ pool: 21869187791279079 ]
[ 0.63% ] BURST-VBQV-PPZM-CPBN-6J2VX (16) B_O_X__2_4 [ pool: 12468105956737329840 ]
[ 0.63% ] BURST-XHKP-97P9-KZYQ-4ZEGA (16)
[ 0.56% ] BURST-7C3B-9LDN-VSXL-4TXE3 (14) SVD Miner [ pool: 21869187791279079 ]
[ 0.56% ] BURST-HXJK-TK7F-FL2N-9ND5U (14)
[ 0.56% ] BURST-D36T-BL8G-KLUU-4H5LM (14) burstless [ pool: 21869187791279079 ]
[ 0.52% ] BURST-J8K7-SJRD-TQAD-A52YA (13)
[ 0.52% ] BURST-WEJK-556L-8G9H-7HZND (13) zippo [ pool: 12468105956737329840 ]
[ 0.52% ] BURST-HR53-5R6S-C9VU-5YK4K (13) CH [ pool: 12468105956737329840 ]
[ 0.52% ] BURST-RCSC-W9BQ-WGG4-C6CKJ (13) [ pool: 21869187791279079 ]
[ 0.52% ] BURST-ESR7-L68N-8DAE-2XDQL (13) birdonwheels5
[ 0.48% ] BURST-T4AJ-CNVH-SSG9-8RSVL (12) [ pool: 21869187791279079 ]
[ 0.48% ] BURST-W945-7PTT-T4FD-732VF (12) Ivabeer
[ 0.48% ] BURST-7VA8-N2KU-CJEL-23WPY (12) [ pool: 21869187791279079 ]
[ 0.44% ] BURST-34FL-Z8RC-6SXE-HNNEY (11)
[ 0.44% ] BURST-BZ3J-UTHM-KTGV-9HKWE (11) C___A___T [ pool: 12468105956737329840 ]
[ 0.44% ] BURST-63T5-9TBH-ASG2-CT5ER (11) A_L_L_I_G_A_T_O_R [ pool: 12468105956737329840 ]
[ 0.40% ] BURST-TVC9-GTFD-AEB8-E6LAZ (10)
[ 0.40% ] BURST-KQ34-CVK6-TU4Z-9L7KT (10) Mining
[ 0.40% ] BURST-UWAA-HSVC-HDCM-G6P58 (10) [ pool: 392861956774712841 ]
[ 0.40% ] BURST-RAG7-HLHX-53PX-FNE94 (10) [ pool: 21869187791279079 ]
[ 0.40% ] BURST-A4GF-RU7J-8WHF-4PAUY (10) LI [ pool: 12468105956737329840 ]
[ 0.40% ] BURST-JFLX-V9X5-BNJB-D34E4 (10) [ pool: 5006289279420108746 ]
[ 0.40% ] BURST-AR5V-QMH7-M5B9-CK32L (10) M3ta
[ 0.40% ] BURST-79PK-DGC2-M4XP-HUAVB (10) crowetic [ pool: 12468105956737329840 ]
[ 0.40% ] BURST-UVJ9-SALJ-JKKQ-34GU3 (10) A1
[ 0.40% ] BURST-YVZQ-LJVQ-98YZ-8X2CU (10) 

Registered miners is really a useless statistic.  All that stat is showing is how many addresses have the reward recipient set to the pool address.  Someone could easily just make a bunch of wallets and set the recipient.  Or set the recipient and not mine actively.  If your going to keep track, you should at least keep track of active miners on a pool during a specific time period.  I am not familiar with the other pools but if you take Burst.ninja as an example, you will see that at any given time there is at max a little over 100 active miners submitting nonces.  Burstcoin.de usually has between 35-50.

[crowetic]

The 'miners responded' statistic on ninja is a good way to measure the 'active'. not ALL will respond each block, but there will be most.

[Elmit]

Registered miners is really a useless statistic.  All that stat is showing is how many addresses have the reward recipient set to the pool address.  Someone could easily just make a bunch of wallets and set the recipient.  Or set the recipient and not mine actively.  If your going to keep track, you should at least keep track of active miners on a pool during a specific time period.  I am not familiar with the other pools but if you take Burst.ninja as an example, you will see that at any given time there is at max a little over 100 active miners submitting nonces.  Burstcoin.de usually has between 35-50.

I agree with you, but there is no definition of active miners yet. Burstcoin shows active miners and said once it is the past 24 hours, which sounds not correct.
I will use my own definition of last 100 blocks, which is easier to program anyway.
Uray pool shows also Total miners, which differs from burstcoins's active miners and registered miners, as ninja shows.

[Elmit]

The 'miners responded' statistic on ninja is a good way to measure the 'active'. not ALL will respond each block, but there will be most.

Correct, but this figure I do not get, since only ninja knows that and not the block chain.

[wmikrut]

Wow... something epic just happened there....
Elmit and Crow agree on something...  

[crowetic]

Wow... something epic just happened there....
Elmit and Crow agree on something...  

I'm trying to make this a more peaceful thread, I'm trying to further the coin and the tech, I'm trying to get people to stop fighting over things that aren't super important right now, causing unnecessary drama, and instead,  help to give ideas, put new things in place to help the coin, and get more projects started.

So I will no longer directly attack Elmit, or anyone really, because all it does is lend people to think of BURST in an unprofessional manner, and I would appreciate it if not only he, but everyone here would do the same. (although I'm not stupid, and I know trolls will always exist, the non-trolls should go this route if possible, please.)

That's all, lets do things, make things, start things, get this going in the direction that we should all agree on.


Also, I don't know who brought it up again, but the modification of the block reward WILL NOT HAPPEN. At least not now anyway. Community development will be the direction we head for now, and I encourage as many people as possible to just start doing stuff, and tell us when you're ready to have some coders look it over.

[wmikrut]

Most excellent to hear!
I truly hope we get back on a progressive,  and constructive, path.

Good things are coming!!

[Irontiga]

Wasn't expecting THAT! Shot Crow

[BurstIncomeAsset]

Most excellent to hear!
I truly hope we get back on a progressive,  and constructive, path.

Good things are coming!!

Indeed, it was just the temporary conflict that pushed the price down, the uncertainty.

Now that things start to calm down, investors will regain their confidence in BURST, and they will push the price up hopefully soon.

That's all, lets do things, make things, start things, get this going in the direction that we should all agree on.

What do you think about my proposal about expanding INCOME?

After all you are shareholder too, and every shareholder can tell his opinion:

[ANN] Income Asset - Decentralized Referral Empire based Income

[Cobra]

I look forward to seeing the clone Bit creates and plan to mine it. It has been over a year since Burst came out, surprised there is not one by now.

I really hope the clone will stay independent of Burst and create some competition in the POC mining scene. Having a completely separate clone will bring much more attention to POC and more miners in. It does not seem fair to change the fundamentals of Burst now even it that means it could be attacked.......if so let nature take its course and the location of the hash power will speak for itself.

I am against a dual miner or merge mining solution and feel that people need to pick which camp they are in and commit to it. Even with GPU plotting it can take quite a while if you have many TB to fill, leave it up to the user on how they choose to utilize the space and the percentage of each they will allocate/mine but not use the same plots for both.

I'm sure many will disagree and say this is a bad idea but I don't feel giving people a choice or completely separate coin is a bad thing. Trying to adapt Burst does not feel like the right thing to do.

[duncan_idaho]

Crowetic - You are going in the wrong direction. I have nothing against you and i like your involvement in burst project until day 1. But i don't trust you anymore becouse of your personal relations with bitladen. He is cheater and 0 morality man. I don't know why you did it, but it's not important for me. I left your pool and moved my plots to dev v2 pool (IMO the safest place ATM)

To community - Thank you for support coin fundamentals. Many smart people write here their opinions. We are strong community and can't let burst destroyed.

Another thing - Don't trust bitladen. He is deciever. Don't install any stuff wrote by him. (closed source code - REALLY? If you want to be part of his botnet - go ahead ) He is anonymous guy on Internet with bad reputation in this thread. if you install soft wrote by him you will be really naive.

I will not support any clone writed by him, even if i can merge mining with burst. But IMO he wants to drop burst hashrate if people move thier plot files to his SCAM Coin.
I will add another 20TB to total burst hashrate in next two weeks. I will buy some HDD to my home rig and share some TB from my IT Department EMC Array.

I advise to all of you, don't trust bitladen. Increase yours plot files and buy some cheap burst.

Ahh and bitladen - Don't forget about your pills 

[Irontiga]

Come on duncan_idaho, crow has said he won't attack with burst.ninja, and so he won't. I would have to say that Bitladen is not clean, but crowetic, while he may personally support him, won't make anyone else do it. He also will never attack burst, and is defo against anyone, even bitladen doing it.

[pinballdude]

We all agree that the network size should increase. Many people said they will add more TB. However, when I look at the statistics, I see still less network size:

Well, with this marketcap the current network size is okay, it is not profitable to do a 51% attack and sustain it.

However, some people might want to do an attack for other reasons than profit, perhaps blackmailing burst holders and people interested in burst working without interruptions.

BURST network size will reflect the price, as price go up, we will get a larger network size, and it will be even more expensive to establish a 51% attack.

if bitladen is at 21% with 1.7PB, then he needs double of that, and some more, to get to attack size. That'll be about 3PB, or 3 * 36000 just for the drives. plus plotting 3PB takes some time, plus you need quite some hardware too. Even for bit, it would be much more expensive to do the attack, than what the burst marketcap is - for someone else it will be even more expensive.

regarding network size, it takes a little time to up you TB, at least it does for me, i have to order drives, install, plot before my new TB go online. I will let the forum know where i am in the process. Drives will probably be delivered today. BaseTarget is right now 1938234 - looks like we're exiting weekend mode and coming into workday mode where the net size is usually higher.

[pinballdude]

Yes it fluctuates but seems like the network size is decreasing again:

there is a bug in that graph, the very last down indication is not really there.

nw size is right now at BaseTarget 2892701  just below 3m that is 3 times more burst to remaining miners compared to when we were at 1m  i'm happy with that. Not sure at what basetarget bitladen would be able to attack but i would guess more like 15m or perhaps 10m.

Thanks for the info! Is it a bug in https://bchain.info/BURST/graph too...?

no, that graph seems to be fine, no final big leg down.  BaseTarget right now is 1900431   1/3 larger network size this instant than the last time i posted yesterday. But as i said, it fluctuates a lot, so a graph or an average over 7 days is probably the best measure you can get.

if you plot network size / price i think we're quite good

[riskyfire]

Quick question for all the active Burstcoin holders

Would you be interested in a Burst asset based on a fund of Proof of Stake coins?

The asset would hold around 5 different chunks of POS coins such as Mintcoin, Clams, Peercoin e.t.c

Funds would be raised in Burst and the POS coins would be purchased and held in wallets, the income
from the staked coins would be returned to asset holders as Burstcoin.

I think this could be a good asset that would help bolster and stability to Burstcoin.

What do you think?

[bobafett]

just asking me, why so much hedge fund managers coming up here....

[riskyfire]

just asking me, why so much hedge fund managers coming up here....

Creating useful assets is one of few things I can do positively for the future of Burst. I can't code!

I mine and invest, mine and invest. Your assets are included in my holdings

[zippolo]

Quick question for all the active Burstcoin holders

Would you be interested in a Burst asset based on a fund of Proof of Stake coins?

The asset would hold around 5 different chunks of POS coins such as Mintcoin, Clams, Peercoin e.t.c

Funds would be raised in Burst and the POS coins would be purchased and held in wallets, the income
from the staked coins would be returned to asset holders as Burstcoin.

I think this could be a good asset that would help bolster and stability to Burstcoin.

What do you think?

I for one would welcome any new good asset  

[bitladen]

Quick question for all the active Burstcoin holders

Would you be interested in a Burst asset based on a fund of Proof of Stake coins?

The asset would hold around 5 different chunks of POS coins such as Mintcoin, Clams, Peercoin e.t.c

Funds would be raised in Burst and the POS coins would be purchased and held in wallets, the income
from the staked coins would be returned to asset holders as Burstcoin.

I think this could be a good asset that would help bolster and stability to Burstcoin.

What do you think?

I think it's brilliant. Takes care of all BURST's problems by avoiding them completely.

But my suggestion is that you make such an asset for each coin, any coin, BTC, LTC, ETH, XRP etc. It would be easier to manage this way, than all of them mixed up.

Then you can still make assets that buy into multiple of the above assets, to get the coin portfolio effect.