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July 16, 2017, 01:20:53 AM
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Because if superpowers like those really existed everyone would know about them.
Is not like scientists are purposely hiding it from people, it's just that it doesn't exist.



No, that does not follow, you cannot say that the existence of a thing is entirely based on popular belief. Many people like yourself have prejudices such that they would deny TK even when presented with scientific evidence. Go figure!
Many people already believe in the supernatural, and parapsychology has a long history, and many eminent researchers believed in these ideas. The reason that most people do not know about the evidence is not important, the science stands by itself regardless of popular belief. To be rational means that you are capable of intelligently assessing new ideas when presented. You have not been able to do that, instead you propose a sort of bandwagon argument.
How can it not exist when I have 2 tests that prove it?
You are trying to cover up the results and say that TK does not exist but you refuse to address the experiments.
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July 16, 2017, 03:22:15 AM
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No, as you said, it just has to be more complex lol

Are you really trying to say that the universe and cause and effect are barely more complex than you are?

Try tossing countless numbers of electrons, protons, and neutrons into existence in a cause and effect "pattern" and producing intelligence thousands of years later. Do you even know how to start to do this? God did it. His complexity is way beyond that of the resulting Universe He made.

Cool

When did I say ''barely'' You said the thing that created the universe has to be more complex than the universe and I said, ok, then that thing only has to be more complex, that still doesn't show it's god, it just shows the thing that created it has to be more complex.

It seems that badecker has given up, do you admit that you can't prove the existence of God now badecker or are you just trying to ignore me now.

Silly boy. By your posts in Health and Religion, you accept that God exists. Yet you want to deny the scientific proof, even though any dny points you have, have been rebutted (they weren't really points at all). Are you operating on faith that you believe in God now?

Get into the Bible and find out about Him, to strengthen the little bit of faith you have.

Cool

You lost, just admit it. You said complexity proved god and you never explained how, you just said the creator has to be more complex than the universe, which does not prove god.

See what a nice guy I am? I just found it for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

I guess that's admitting you lost because whenever someone asks you a direct question about something that you can't answer, you just post the links. Nowhere in those links you explain how complexity proves God.

Nobody is going to force you to look at or think about the answer to anything you ask. And often your questions is so extremely stupid that they don't deserve an answer. Why not? Because it is easily researchable on the Internet and elsewhere.

In addition, you can't be serious in some of your questions. Why not? You often ask a question that has been answered one or two posts directly above... posts that you quote in your post in which you ask the questions. What? Does your mommy still spoon-feed you, too?

The point is that you simply don't want to accept the science. So you play around with the words that describe the science.

Wake up and see that long ago science proved that God existed... from the time of Newton or earlier. All the science since then that tries to prove that God doesn't exist has only served to strengthen the proof that He does.

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July 16, 2017, 09:36:24 AM
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No, as you said, it just has to be more complex lol

Are you really trying to say that the universe and cause and effect are barely more complex than you are?

Try tossing countless numbers of electrons, protons, and neutrons into existence in a cause and effect "pattern" and producing intelligence thousands of years later. Do you even know how to start to do this? God did it. His complexity is way beyond that of the resulting Universe He made.

Cool

When did I say ''barely'' You said the thing that created the universe has to be more complex than the universe and I said, ok, then that thing only has to be more complex, that still doesn't show it's god, it just shows the thing that created it has to be more complex.

It seems that badecker has given up, do you admit that you can't prove the existence of God now badecker or are you just trying to ignore me now.

Silly boy. By your posts in Health and Religion, you accept that God exists. Yet you want to deny the scientific proof, even though any dny points you have, have been rebutted (they weren't really points at all). Are you operating on faith that you believe in God now?

Get into the Bible and find out about Him, to strengthen the little bit of faith you have.

Cool

You lost, just admit it. You said complexity proved god and you never explained how, you just said the creator has to be more complex than the universe, which does not prove god.

See what a nice guy I am? I just found it for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

I guess that's admitting you lost because whenever someone asks you a direct question about something that you can't answer, you just post the links. Nowhere in those links you explain how complexity proves God.

Nobody is going to force you to look at or think about the answer to anything you ask. And often your questions is so extremely stupid that they don't deserve an answer. Why not? Because it is easily researchable on the Internet and elsewhere.

In addition, you can't be serious in some of your questions. Why not? You often ask a question that has been answered one or two posts directly above... posts that you quote in your post in which you ask the questions. What? Does your mommy still spoon-feed you, too?

The point is that you simply don't want to accept the science. So you play around with the words that describe the science.

Wake up and see that long ago science proved that God existed... from the time of Newton or earlier. All the science since then that tries to prove that God doesn't exist has only served to strengthen the proof that He does.

Cool

Ignoring the question does not prove your point. I said anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of the universe, not necessarily god and you have no rebuttal for that you just keep rambling and posting your links.



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July 21, 2017, 02:06:17 PM
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No, as you said, it just has to be more complex lol

Are you really trying to say that the universe and cause and effect are barely more complex than you are?

Try tossing countless numbers of electrons, protons, and neutrons into existence in a cause and effect "pattern" and producing intelligence thousands of years later. Do you even know how to start to do this? God did it. His complexity is way beyond that of the resulting Universe He made.

Cool

When did I say ''barely'' You said the thing that created the universe has to be more complex than the universe and I said, ok, then that thing only has to be more complex, that still doesn't show it's god, it just shows the thing that created it has to be more complex.

It seems that badecker has given up, do you admit that you can't prove the existence of God now badecker or are you just trying to ignore me now.

Silly boy. By your posts in Health and Religion, you accept that God exists. Yet you want to deny the scientific proof, even though any dny points you have, have been rebutted (they weren't really points at all). Are you operating on faith that you believe in God now?

Get into the Bible and find out about Him, to strengthen the little bit of faith you have.

Cool

You lost, just admit it. You said complexity proved god and you never explained how, you just said the creator has to be more complex than the universe, which does not prove god.

See what a nice guy I am? I just found it for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

I guess that's admitting you lost because whenever someone asks you a direct question about something that you can't answer, you just post the links. Nowhere in those links you explain how complexity proves God.

Nobody is going to force you to look at or think about the answer to anything you ask. And often your questions is so extremely stupid that they don't deserve an answer. Why not? Because it is easily researchable on the Internet and elsewhere.

In addition, you can't be serious in some of your questions. Why not? You often ask a question that has been answered one or two posts directly above... posts that you quote in your post in which you ask the questions. What? Does your mommy still spoon-feed you, too?

The point is that you simply don't want to accept the science. So you play around with the words that describe the science.

Wake up and see that long ago science proved that God existed... from the time of Newton or earlier. All the science since then that tries to prove that God doesn't exist has only served to strengthen the proof that He does.

Cool

Ignoring the question does not prove your point. I said anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of the universe, not necessarily god and you have no rebuttal for that you just keep rambling and posting your links.

Why do you assume that anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of it? You don't have a clue about that.

What are you talking about, a rebuttal to what you said? People used to say the moon was made of green cheese. They didn't know, and you don't know.

What are you going to do? Sit around all day and talk stupidity? And then ask why somebody doesn't rebut your stupidity? You are getting more and more like those Flat Earth people all the time.

Cool
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July 21, 2017, 02:25:57 PM
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No, as you said, it just has to be more complex lol

Are you really trying to say that the universe and cause and effect are barely more complex than you are?

Try tossing countless numbers of electrons, protons, and neutrons into existence in a cause and effect "pattern" and producing intelligence thousands of years later. Do you even know how to start to do this? God did it. His complexity is way beyond that of the resulting Universe He made.

Cool

When did I say ''barely'' You said the thing that created the universe has to be more complex than the universe and I said, ok, then that thing only has to be more complex, that still doesn't show it's god, it just shows the thing that created it has to be more complex.

It seems that badecker has given up, do you admit that you can't prove the existence of God now badecker or are you just trying to ignore me now.

Silly boy. By your posts in Health and Religion, you accept that God exists. Yet you want to deny the scientific proof, even though any dny points you have, have been rebutted (they weren't really points at all). Are you operating on faith that you believe in God now?

Get into the Bible and find out about Him, to strengthen the little bit of faith you have.

Cool

You lost, just admit it. You said complexity proved god and you never explained how, you just said the creator has to be more complex than the universe, which does not prove god.

See what a nice guy I am? I just found it for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

I guess that's admitting you lost because whenever someone asks you a direct question about something that you can't answer, you just post the links. Nowhere in those links you explain how complexity proves God.

Nobody is going to force you to look at or think about the answer to anything you ask. And often your questions is so extremely stupid that they don't deserve an answer. Why not? Because it is easily researchable on the Internet and elsewhere.

In addition, you can't be serious in some of your questions. Why not? You often ask a question that has been answered one or two posts directly above... posts that you quote in your post in which you ask the questions. What? Does your mommy still spoon-feed you, too?

The point is that you simply don't want to accept the science. So you play around with the words that describe the science.

Wake up and see that long ago science proved that God existed... from the time of Newton or earlier. All the science since then that tries to prove that God doesn't exist has only served to strengthen the proof that He does.

Cool

Ignoring the question does not prove your point. I said anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of the universe, not necessarily god and you have no rebuttal for that you just keep rambling and posting your links.

Why do you assume that anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of it? You don't have a clue about that.

What are you talking about, a rebuttal to what you said? People used to say the moon was made of green cheese. They didn't know, and you don't know.

What are you going to do? Sit around all day and talk stupidity? And then ask why somebody doesn't rebut your stupidity? You are getting more and more like those Flat Earth people all the time.

Cool

You are the one who keeps saying the creator has to be more complex, you are the one bringing complexity all the time and now you don't agree with it?



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July 21, 2017, 04:21:34 PM
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No, as you said, it just has to be more complex lol

Are you really trying to say that the universe and cause and effect are barely more complex than you are?

Try tossing countless numbers of electrons, protons, and neutrons into existence in a cause and effect "pattern" and producing intelligence thousands of years later. Do you even know how to start to do this? God did it. His complexity is way beyond that of the resulting Universe He made.

Cool

When did I say ''barely'' You said the thing that created the universe has to be more complex than the universe and I said, ok, then that thing only has to be more complex, that still doesn't show it's god, it just shows the thing that created it has to be more complex.

It seems that badecker has given up, do you admit that you can't prove the existence of God now badecker or are you just trying to ignore me now.

Silly boy. By your posts in Health and Religion, you accept that God exists. Yet you want to deny the scientific proof, even though any dny points you have, have been rebutted (they weren't really points at all). Are you operating on faith that you believe in God now?

Get into the Bible and find out about Him, to strengthen the little bit of faith you have.

Cool

You lost, just admit it. You said complexity proved god and you never explained how, you just said the creator has to be more complex than the universe, which does not prove god.

See what a nice guy I am? I just found it for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

I guess that's admitting you lost because whenever someone asks you a direct question about something that you can't answer, you just post the links. Nowhere in those links you explain how complexity proves God.

Nobody is going to force you to look at or think about the answer to anything you ask. And often your questions is so extremely stupid that they don't deserve an answer. Why not? Because it is easily researchable on the Internet and elsewhere.

In addition, you can't be serious in some of your questions. Why not? You often ask a question that has been answered one or two posts directly above... posts that you quote in your post in which you ask the questions. What? Does your mommy still spoon-feed you, too?

The point is that you simply don't want to accept the science. So you play around with the words that describe the science.

Wake up and see that long ago science proved that God existed... from the time of Newton or earlier. All the science since then that tries to prove that God doesn't exist has only served to strengthen the proof that He does.

Cool

Ignoring the question does not prove your point. I said anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of the universe, not necessarily god and you have no rebuttal for that you just keep rambling and posting your links.

Why do you assume that anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of it? You don't have a clue about that.

What are you talking about, a rebuttal to what you said? People used to say the moon was made of green cheese. They didn't know, and you don't know.

What are you going to do? Sit around all day and talk stupidity? And then ask why somebody doesn't rebut your stupidity? You are getting more and more like those Flat Earth people all the time.

Cool

You are the one who keeps saying the creator has to be more complex, you are the one bringing complexity all the time and now you don't agree with it?

The point was the anything, not the complexity. You are a troll, just out there to twist things around, because you are being paid to drag people away from God.

Cool
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July 21, 2017, 05:42:14 PM
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No, as you said, it just has to be more complex lol

Are you really trying to say that the universe and cause and effect are barely more complex than you are?

Try tossing countless numbers of electrons, protons, and neutrons into existence in a cause and effect "pattern" and producing intelligence thousands of years later. Do you even know how to start to do this? God did it. His complexity is way beyond that of the resulting Universe He made.

Cool

When did I say ''barely'' You said the thing that created the universe has to be more complex than the universe and I said, ok, then that thing only has to be more complex, that still doesn't show it's god, it just shows the thing that created it has to be more complex.

It seems that badecker has given up, do you admit that you can't prove the existence of God now badecker or are you just trying to ignore me now.

Silly boy. By your posts in Health and Religion, you accept that God exists. Yet you want to deny the scientific proof, even though any dny points you have, have been rebutted (they weren't really points at all). Are you operating on faith that you believe in God now?

Get into the Bible and find out about Him, to strengthen the little bit of faith you have.

Cool

You lost, just admit it. You said complexity proved god and you never explained how, you just said the creator has to be more complex than the universe, which does not prove god.

See what a nice guy I am? I just found it for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

I guess that's admitting you lost because whenever someone asks you a direct question about something that you can't answer, you just post the links. Nowhere in those links you explain how complexity proves God.

Nobody is going to force you to look at or think about the answer to anything you ask. And often your questions is so extremely stupid that they don't deserve an answer. Why not? Because it is easily researchable on the Internet and elsewhere.

In addition, you can't be serious in some of your questions. Why not? You often ask a question that has been answered one or two posts directly above... posts that you quote in your post in which you ask the questions. What? Does your mommy still spoon-feed you, too?

The point is that you simply don't want to accept the science. So you play around with the words that describe the science.

Wake up and see that long ago science proved that God existed... from the time of Newton or earlier. All the science since then that tries to prove that God doesn't exist has only served to strengthen the proof that He does.

Cool

Ignoring the question does not prove your point. I said anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of the universe, not necessarily god and you have no rebuttal for that you just keep rambling and posting your links.

Why do you assume that anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of it? You don't have a clue about that.

What are you talking about, a rebuttal to what you said? People used to say the moon was made of green cheese. They didn't know, and you don't know.

What are you going to do? Sit around all day and talk stupidity? And then ask why somebody doesn't rebut your stupidity? You are getting more and more like those Flat Earth people all the time.

Cool

You are the one who keeps saying the creator has to be more complex, you are the one bringing complexity all the time and now you don't agree with it?

The point was the anything, not the complexity. You are a troll, just out there to twist things around, because you are being paid to drag people away from God.

Cool

Do you not agree that anything more complex than the universe can be it's creator?



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July 21, 2017, 07:50:27 PM
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No, as you said, it just has to be more complex lol

Are you really trying to say that the universe and cause and effect are barely more complex than you are?

Try tossing countless numbers of electrons, protons, and neutrons into existence in a cause and effect "pattern" and producing intelligence thousands of years later. Do you even know how to start to do this? God did it. His complexity is way beyond that of the resulting Universe He made.

Cool

When did I say ''barely'' You said the thing that created the universe has to be more complex than the universe and I said, ok, then that thing only has to be more complex, that still doesn't show it's god, it just shows the thing that created it has to be more complex.

It seems that badecker has given up, do you admit that you can't prove the existence of God now badecker or are you just trying to ignore me now.

Silly boy. By your posts in Health and Religion, you accept that God exists. Yet you want to deny the scientific proof, even though any dny points you have, have been rebutted (they weren't really points at all). Are you operating on faith that you believe in God now?

Get into the Bible and find out about Him, to strengthen the little bit of faith you have.

Cool

You lost, just admit it. You said complexity proved god and you never explained how, you just said the creator has to be more complex than the universe, which does not prove god.

See what a nice guy I am? I just found it for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

I guess that's admitting you lost because whenever someone asks you a direct question about something that you can't answer, you just post the links. Nowhere in those links you explain how complexity proves God.

Nobody is going to force you to look at or think about the answer to anything you ask. And often your questions is so extremely stupid that they don't deserve an answer. Why not? Because it is easily researchable on the Internet and elsewhere.

In addition, you can't be serious in some of your questions. Why not? You often ask a question that has been answered one or two posts directly above... posts that you quote in your post in which you ask the questions. What? Does your mommy still spoon-feed you, too?

The point is that you simply don't want to accept the science. So you play around with the words that describe the science.

Wake up and see that long ago science proved that God existed... from the time of Newton or earlier. All the science since then that tries to prove that God doesn't exist has only served to strengthen the proof that He does.

Cool

Ignoring the question does not prove your point. I said anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of the universe, not necessarily god and you have no rebuttal for that you just keep rambling and posting your links.

Why do you assume that anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of it? You don't have a clue about that.

What are you talking about, a rebuttal to what you said? People used to say the moon was made of green cheese. They didn't know, and you don't know.

What are you going to do? Sit around all day and talk stupidity? And then ask why somebody doesn't rebut your stupidity? You are getting more and more like those Flat Earth people all the time.

Cool

You are the one who keeps saying the creator has to be more complex, you are the one bringing complexity all the time and now you don't agree with it?

The point was the anything, not the complexity. You are a troll, just out there to twist things around, because you are being paid to drag people away from God.

Cool

Do you not agree that anything more complex than the universe can be it's creator?

Read my lips. Just because something might be more complex than the universe, doesn't necessarily give it the ability to be the creator of the universe. For example. If the "something" happens to be one electron more complex than the universe, why would that necessarily make it a creator of anything?

Cool

EDIT: BTW, there is no way to agree with much of anything you say. Why not? Because generally your statements are way too general to have much of any meaning at all.
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July 21, 2017, 08:18:20 PM
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No, as you said, it just has to be more complex lol

Are you really trying to say that the universe and cause and effect are barely more complex than you are?

Try tossing countless numbers of electrons, protons, and neutrons into existence in a cause and effect "pattern" and producing intelligence thousands of years later. Do you even know how to start to do this? God did it. His complexity is way beyond that of the resulting Universe He made.

Cool

When did I say ''barely'' You said the thing that created the universe has to be more complex than the universe and I said, ok, then that thing only has to be more complex, that still doesn't show it's god, it just shows the thing that created it has to be more complex.

It seems that badecker has given up, do you admit that you can't prove the existence of God now badecker or are you just trying to ignore me now.

Silly boy. By your posts in Health and Religion, you accept that God exists. Yet you want to deny the scientific proof, even though any dny points you have, have been rebutted (they weren't really points at all). Are you operating on faith that you believe in God now?

Get into the Bible and find out about Him, to strengthen the little bit of faith you have.

Cool

You lost, just admit it. You said complexity proved god and you never explained how, you just said the creator has to be more complex than the universe, which does not prove god.

See what a nice guy I am? I just found it for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

I guess that's admitting you lost because whenever someone asks you a direct question about something that you can't answer, you just post the links. Nowhere in those links you explain how complexity proves God.

Nobody is going to force you to look at or think about the answer to anything you ask. And often your questions is so extremely stupid that they don't deserve an answer. Why not? Because it is easily researchable on the Internet and elsewhere.

In addition, you can't be serious in some of your questions. Why not? You often ask a question that has been answered one or two posts directly above... posts that you quote in your post in which you ask the questions. What? Does your mommy still spoon-feed you, too?

The point is that you simply don't want to accept the science. So you play around with the words that describe the science.

Wake up and see that long ago science proved that God existed... from the time of Newton or earlier. All the science since then that tries to prove that God doesn't exist has only served to strengthen the proof that He does.

Cool

Ignoring the question does not prove your point. I said anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of the universe, not necessarily god and you have no rebuttal for that you just keep rambling and posting your links.

Why do you assume that anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of it? You don't have a clue about that.

What are you talking about, a rebuttal to what you said? People used to say the moon was made of green cheese. They didn't know, and you don't know.

What are you going to do? Sit around all day and talk stupidity? And then ask why somebody doesn't rebut your stupidity? You are getting more and more like those Flat Earth people all the time.

Cool

You are the one who keeps saying the creator has to be more complex, you are the one bringing complexity all the time and now you don't agree with it?

The point was the anything, not the complexity. You are a troll, just out there to twist things around, because you are being paid to drag people away from God.

Cool

Do you not agree that anything more complex than the universe can be it's creator?

Read my lips. Just because something might be more complex than the universe, doesn't necessarily give it the ability to be the creator of the universe. For example. If the "something" happens to be one electron more complex than the universe, why would that necessarily make it a creator of anything?

Cool

EDIT: BTW, there is no way to agree with much of anything you say. Why not? Because generally your statements are way too general to have much of any meaning at all.

My statements are yours lol. You said the creator had to be more complex and I said a lot of things could be more complex not necessarily god.



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July 21, 2017, 09:25:09 PM
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No, as you said, it just has to be more complex lol

Are you really trying to say that the universe and cause and effect are barely more complex than you are?

Try tossing countless numbers of electrons, protons, and neutrons into existence in a cause and effect "pattern" and producing intelligence thousands of years later. Do you even know how to start to do this? God did it. His complexity is way beyond that of the resulting Universe He made.

Cool

When did I say ''barely'' You said the thing that created the universe has to be more complex than the universe and I said, ok, then that thing only has to be more complex, that still doesn't show it's god, it just shows the thing that created it has to be more complex.

It seems that badecker has given up, do you admit that you can't prove the existence of God now badecker or are you just trying to ignore me now.

Silly boy. By your posts in Health and Religion, you accept that God exists. Yet you want to deny the scientific proof, even though any dny points you have, have been rebutted (they weren't really points at all). Are you operating on faith that you believe in God now?

Get into the Bible and find out about Him, to strengthen the little bit of faith you have.

Cool

You lost, just admit it. You said complexity proved god and you never explained how, you just said the creator has to be more complex than the universe, which does not prove god.

See what a nice guy I am? I just found it for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

I guess that's admitting you lost because whenever someone asks you a direct question about something that you can't answer, you just post the links. Nowhere in those links you explain how complexity proves God.

Nobody is going to force you to look at or think about the answer to anything you ask. And often your questions is so extremely stupid that they don't deserve an answer. Why not? Because it is easily researchable on the Internet and elsewhere.

In addition, you can't be serious in some of your questions. Why not? You often ask a question that has been answered one or two posts directly above... posts that you quote in your post in which you ask the questions. What? Does your mommy still spoon-feed you, too?

The point is that you simply don't want to accept the science. So you play around with the words that describe the science.

Wake up and see that long ago science proved that God existed... from the time of Newton or earlier. All the science since then that tries to prove that God doesn't exist has only served to strengthen the proof that He does.

Cool

Ignoring the question does not prove your point. I said anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of the universe, not necessarily god and you have no rebuttal for that you just keep rambling and posting your links.

Why do you assume that anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of it? You don't have a clue about that.

What are you talking about, a rebuttal to what you said? People used to say the moon was made of green cheese. They didn't know, and you don't know.

What are you going to do? Sit around all day and talk stupidity? And then ask why somebody doesn't rebut your stupidity? You are getting more and more like those Flat Earth people all the time.

Cool

You are the one who keeps saying the creator has to be more complex, you are the one bringing complexity all the time and now you don't agree with it?

The point was the anything, not the complexity. You are a troll, just out there to twist things around, because you are being paid to drag people away from God.

Cool

Do you not agree that anything more complex than the universe can be it's creator?

Read my lips. Just because something might be more complex than the universe, doesn't necessarily give it the ability to be the creator of the universe. For example. If the "something" happens to be one electron more complex than the universe, why would that necessarily make it a creator of anything?

Cool

EDIT: BTW, there is no way to agree with much of anything you say. Why not? Because generally your statements are way too general to have much of any meaning at all.

My statements are yours lol. You said the creator had to be more complex and I said a lot of things could be more complex not necessarily god.

Then why do you suggest that I don't respond, when you go around asking questions that you have already answered? There is not necessarily any need to respond if you have already answered it.

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No, as you said, it just has to be more complex lol

Are you really trying to say that the universe and cause and effect are barely more complex than you are?

Try tossing countless numbers of electrons, protons, and neutrons into existence in a cause and effect "pattern" and producing intelligence thousands of years later. Do you even know how to start to do this? God did it. His complexity is way beyond that of the resulting Universe He made.

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When did I say ''barely'' You said the thing that created the universe has to be more complex than the universe and I said, ok, then that thing only has to be more complex, that still doesn't show it's god, it just shows the thing that created it has to be more complex.

It seems that badecker has given up, do you admit that you can't prove the existence of God now badecker or are you just trying to ignore me now.

Silly boy. By your posts in Health and Religion, you accept that God exists. Yet you want to deny the scientific proof, even though any dny points you have, have been rebutted (they weren't really points at all). Are you operating on faith that you believe in God now?

Get into the Bible and find out about Him, to strengthen the little bit of faith you have.

Cool

You lost, just admit it. You said complexity proved god and you never explained how, you just said the creator has to be more complex than the universe, which does not prove god.

See what a nice guy I am? I just found it for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

I guess that's admitting you lost because whenever someone asks you a direct question about something that you can't answer, you just post the links. Nowhere in those links you explain how complexity proves God.

Nobody is going to force you to look at or think about the answer to anything you ask. And often your questions is so extremely stupid that they don't deserve an answer. Why not? Because it is easily researchable on the Internet and elsewhere.

In addition, you can't be serious in some of your questions. Why not? You often ask a question that has been answered one or two posts directly above... posts that you quote in your post in which you ask the questions. What? Does your mommy still spoon-feed you, too?

The point is that you simply don't want to accept the science. So you play around with the words that describe the science.

Wake up and see that long ago science proved that God existed... from the time of Newton or earlier. All the science since then that tries to prove that God doesn't exist has only served to strengthen the proof that He does.

Cool

Ignoring the question does not prove your point. I said anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of the universe, not necessarily god and you have no rebuttal for that you just keep rambling and posting your links.

Why do you assume that anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of it? You don't have a clue about that.

What are you talking about, a rebuttal to what you said? People used to say the moon was made of green cheese. They didn't know, and you don't know.

What are you going to do? Sit around all day and talk stupidity? And then ask why somebody doesn't rebut your stupidity? You are getting more and more like those Flat Earth people all the time.

Cool

You are the one who keeps saying the creator has to be more complex, you are the one bringing complexity all the time and now you don't agree with it?

The point was the anything, not the complexity. You are a troll, just out there to twist things around, because you are being paid to drag people away from God.

Cool

Do you not agree that anything more complex than the universe can be it's creator?

Read my lips. Just because something might be more complex than the universe, doesn't necessarily give it the ability to be the creator of the universe. For example. If the "something" happens to be one electron more complex than the universe, why would that necessarily make it a creator of anything?

Cool

EDIT: BTW, there is no way to agree with much of anything you say. Why not? Because generally your statements are way too general to have much of any meaning at all.

My statements are yours lol. You said the creator had to be more complex and I said a lot of things could be more complex not necessarily god.

Then why do you suggest that I don't respond, when you go around asking questions that you have already answered? There is not necessarily any need to respond if you have already answered it.

Cool

Because you are trying to prove god and you admit it doesn't have to be god so I guess that's the end of this. Thank you for admitting it.



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No, as you said, it just has to be more complex lol

Are you really trying to say that the universe and cause and effect are barely more complex than you are?

Try tossing countless numbers of electrons, protons, and neutrons into existence in a cause and effect "pattern" and producing intelligence thousands of years later. Do you even know how to start to do this? God did it. His complexity is way beyond that of the resulting Universe He made.

Cool

When did I say ''barely'' You said the thing that created the universe has to be more complex than the universe and I said, ok, then that thing only has to be more complex, that still doesn't show it's god, it just shows the thing that created it has to be more complex.

It seems that badecker has given up, do you admit that you can't prove the existence of God now badecker or are you just trying to ignore me now.

Silly boy. By your posts in Health and Religion, you accept that God exists. Yet you want to deny the scientific proof, even though any dny points you have, have been rebutted (they weren't really points at all). Are you operating on faith that you believe in God now?

Get into the Bible and find out about Him, to strengthen the little bit of faith you have.

Cool

You lost, just admit it. You said complexity proved god and you never explained how, you just said the creator has to be more complex than the universe, which does not prove god.

See what a nice guy I am? I just found it for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

I guess that's admitting you lost because whenever someone asks you a direct question about something that you can't answer, you just post the links. Nowhere in those links you explain how complexity proves God.

Nobody is going to force you to look at or think about the answer to anything you ask. And often your questions is so extremely stupid that they don't deserve an answer. Why not? Because it is easily researchable on the Internet and elsewhere.

In addition, you can't be serious in some of your questions. Why not? You often ask a question that has been answered one or two posts directly above... posts that you quote in your post in which you ask the questions. What? Does your mommy still spoon-feed you, too?

The point is that you simply don't want to accept the science. So you play around with the words that describe the science.

Wake up and see that long ago science proved that God existed... from the time of Newton or earlier. All the science since then that tries to prove that God doesn't exist has only served to strengthen the proof that He does.

Cool

Ignoring the question does not prove your point. I said anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of the universe, not necessarily god and you have no rebuttal for that you just keep rambling and posting your links.

Why do you assume that anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of it? You don't have a clue about that.

What are you talking about, a rebuttal to what you said? People used to say the moon was made of green cheese. They didn't know, and you don't know.

What are you going to do? Sit around all day and talk stupidity? And then ask why somebody doesn't rebut your stupidity? You are getting more and more like those Flat Earth people all the time.

Cool

You are the one who keeps saying the creator has to be more complex, you are the one bringing complexity all the time and now you don't agree with it?

The point was the anything, not the complexity. You are a troll, just out there to twist things around, because you are being paid to drag people away from God.

Cool

Do you not agree that anything more complex than the universe can be it's creator?

Read my lips. Just because something might be more complex than the universe, doesn't necessarily give it the ability to be the creator of the universe. For example. If the "something" happens to be one electron more complex than the universe, why would that necessarily make it a creator of anything?

Cool

EDIT: BTW, there is no way to agree with much of anything you say. Why not? Because generally your statements are way too general to have much of any meaning at all.

My statements are yours lol. You said the creator had to be more complex and I said a lot of things could be more complex not necessarily god.

Then why do you suggest that I don't respond, when you go around asking questions that you have already answered? There is not necessarily any need to respond if you have already answered it.

Cool

Because you are trying to prove god and you admit it doesn't have to be god so I guess that's the end of this. Thank you for admitting it.

See? There you go again. What is the "it" that you are talking about? Are you trying to say that God doesn't have to be God?

The scientific proof that God exists is shown here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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yo hey guys... what round is this anyway?
i scrolled thru last page and counted 14  "anythings" in red ..do i win a prize?
i think this is absolute proof that science proves beyond a shadow of a doubt
 the existence of the all powerful almighty invisible omnipotent immortal sky daddy,
creator of the universe no less (don't ask who created the sky daddy, that's forbidden) Grin

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yo hey guys... what round is this anyway?
i scrolled thru last page and counted 14  "anythings" in red ..do i win a prize?
i think this is absolute proof that science proves beyond a shadow of a doubt
 the existence of the all powerful almighty invisible omnipotent immortal sky daddy,
creator of the universe no less (don't ask who created the sky daddy, that's forbidden) Grin
I can ask a similar question: what came before the universe? Why something instead of nothing?
All theories regarding the origin of the universe imply self-existence, so all theories are literally inconceivable! This was explained by Herbert Spencer in his book First Principles .

Some atheists and pseudoskeptics will say that science has removed the need for God as an explanation for the existence of the natural world. The quotes here demonstrate that many of the greatest scientific minds believe just the opposite, that the scientific evidence is best explained by the existence of an intelligent designer of the universe.

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I can ask a similar question: what came before the universe? Why something instead of nothing?
All theories regarding the origin of the universe imply self-existence, so all theories are literally inconceivable!

Nonsense.  I can conceive of time being a circle.

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I believe in god .Not only me every one have that one situation that we realize that god is there.
But we can't prove that god exists.
We only feel  about god but we can't see.
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satanism is on rise why? this bad guy exist - and also our creator exist,

just watch the video to the gotthard tunnel swiss, this satanic ritual and the net is full of this things !

time to wake up before the judgement come !

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This is interesting but for people like me. i really believe that arguing with others and contesting if there is real God or not is nonsense. don't find this sarcastic but if you come to think of it God in every religion says be good. so try hard to be good even if it's not that easy. because at the end of the day if God really exist or not at least you die living a good life.

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Since this is a science topic, find some sensible rebuttal to the proof that God exists. Anybody can have feelings this way or that. The reason we need rebuttal to the proof is to find out if the proof can stand, logically.

The proof:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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Since this is a science topic, find some sensible rebuttal to the proof that God exists. Anybody can have feelings this way or that. The reason we need rebuttal to the proof is to find out if the proof can stand, logically.

The proof:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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Your arguments are not arguments, they are talk, backwards talk showing that they are false. Your arguments are simply talk-arounds therefore debunking themselves

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