Scientific proof that God exists?

[Przemax]

BTW. You had said something very important here. You say you want to control sin. I mean you say you want to control the body - and you agree its sinful.

Neither Nietzsche, neither Christ, neither me have stated its possible. Do you think that "controlling your sinful nature" doesnt produce the sinful need?

Thats purely impossibility not to fight monster and become one. Thats why christians should not hate their enemies. We should have nothing in common with our enemies. Hatered is very intimate relation.

I do not try to combat evil... I know I cant without becoming evil. Thats just nonesence from a christian point of view.

Betterment yourself against evil is as much of a nonesence as there could be - from a christian point of view. Not only christian, but facts as well. One should try to not having anything in common with the evil, mainly its passions.

Sorry if i offtopiced, but you imply important things. Not implicite tho.

[IadixDev]

The last episode of the clone war anime series give good clue on this

Yoda speaking to his dark side :

I recognize you, but I dont accept you , and I reject you




Confucius say something along this line too, about the need for the stone to be hard enough to polish the metal .

[Przemax]

The last episode of the clone war anime series give good clue on this

Yoda speaking to his dark side :

I recognize you, but I dont accept you , and I reject you

Star wars is just a mind control tool. If I would be more divinelike I would not have need to know the "dark side". I know that Im a curious being. Im not proud of it. I like to know the evil ways out of curiousity. It turn against me as my torment. But at least I know I tormented myself.

God had told me in the Bible not to.

As the nondivine saying goes - no pain no gain.

[IadixDev]

The last episode of the clone war anime series give good clue on this

Yoda speaking to his dark side :

I recognize you, but I dont accept you , and I reject you

Star wars is just a mind control tool. If I would be more divinelike I would not have need to know the "dark side". I know that Im a curious being. Im not proud of it. I like to know the evil ways out of curiousity. It turn against me as my torment. But at least I know I tormented myself.

God had told me in the Bible not to.

As the nondivine saying goes - no pain no gain.

The Yoda thing is illustration

Every human has weakness, the capacity of discrimination between the two is large part of what religion is about.

Sinful nature are mostly automatism from the body, desires, impulses, what psychologists call the subconscious.

They need to be recognized as sins, and fought against with the power of the spirit.

In the bible it's said the evil has thousand path, but only one lead to "good".

But focusing on good and driving off evilish impulse require discipline and will power.

You can detect evil ways by contrast to what is good, and by focusing will power on the good, it allow to keep devil things at bay.





Look at how the budha can burn the demons and Evil who try to reach him creating the bubble with his will power through meditation and keep his zen no matter what with the will power

Meditation is training of will power.

http://biblehub.com/niv/psalms/91.htm

1Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High
will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.a
2I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress,
my God, in whom I trust.”



5You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day,
6nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday.
7A thousand may fall at your side,
ten thousand at your right hand,
but it will not come near you.
8You will only observe with your eyes
and see the punishment of the wicked.

[Przemax]

But focusing on good and driving off evilish impulse require discipline and will power.

You can detect evil ways by contrast to what is good, and by focusing will power on the good, it allow to keep devil things at bay.

Good luck with that.

Your life is yours. I have my simple rules.

1. You can not lift yourself by the belt. You need something to support yourself with.
2. Im my worst enemy. If i will not lie to myself noone will lie to me.
3. Having strong will is possibility of having a strong enemy. Namely myself. Its a possibily of having a strong ally as well. I do not say that strenght is bad. Nec Hercules contra plures.

Just a food for your thoughts.

[IadixDev]

But focusing on good and driving off evilish impulse require discipline and will power.

You can detect evil ways by contrast to what is good, and by focusing will power on the good, it allow to keep devil things at bay.

Good luck with that.

Your life is yours. I have my simple rules.

1. You can not lift yourself by the belt. You need something to support yourself with.
2. Im my worst enemy. If i will not lie to myself noone will lie to me.
3. Having strong will is possibility of having a strong enemy. Namely myself.

Just a food for your thoughts.

Yes there are strong enmies, even within yourself, otherwise there would be no need for religion at all  

But there are different way to see this, ultimately enmy is mostly ignorance, darkness as lack of light, or lack of something.

It's how algebra works, by restoring balance by resolving unknown lacking quantities ( see book of balance )

[Przemax]

But focusing on good and driving off evilish impulse require discipline and will power.

You can detect evil ways by contrast to what is good, and by focusing will power on the good, it allow to keep devil things at bay.

Good luck with that.

Your life is yours. I have my simple rules.

1. You can not lift yourself by the belt. You need something to support yourself with.
2. Im my worst enemy. If i will not lie to myself noone will lie to me.
3. Having strong will is possibility of having a strong enemy. Namely myself.

Just a food for your thoughts.

Yes there are strong enmies, even within yourself, otherwise there would be no need for religion at all  

I do not need a religion. All you need to do is divine simplicity, straight path to rightousness. Leave your croocked ways and you are fine. Simplicity is divinity.

Even the Buddhism is coming to the same conclusions. The highest enlightment is the most simple.

Yet the simple is the hardest to understand as you are entangled with complicated sittuations of life.

[IadixDev]

Mathematics is all about finding this simplicity as the mind of god.

Simplicity is not ignorance, righteousness is not Innate  

[Przemax]

Mathematics is all about finding this simplicity as the mind of god.

Simplicity is not ignorance, righteousness is not Innate  

Yeah. Ignorant minds complicate reality not the simple minds.

Mathematics is just a playground for the mind. I don't understand at all the cabalistic way of making numbers mean something. I think its what I have said - the ignorant mind complicate reality. If the life would not make enough mess we need to enumerate it?

Even your dear Confucius was saying that if words are complicated - have multiple meanings, they mean nothing. So its better to have simple meaning that no meaning at all.

[IadixDev]

Mathematics is all about finding simplest and most concise non equivocal expression of truth. Mathematics is not about enumerating things  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_beauty

Mathematicians describe an especially pleasing method of proof as elegant. Depending on context, this may mean:

A proof that uses a minimum of additional assumptions or previous results.
A proof that is unusually succinct.



There is no scientific discoverer, no poet, no painter, no musician, who will not tell you that he found ready made his discovery or poem or picture – that it came to him from outside, and that he did not consciously create it from within.

— William Kingdon Clifford, from a lecture to the Royal Institution titled "Some of the conditions of mental development"

Even your dear bible say that there are sins and temptation to be avoided. If all was so simple and Innate, there would be no sin at all.

[Przemax]

Even your dear bible say that there are sins and temptation to be avoided. If all was so simple and Innate, there would be no sin at all.

"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone." Luke 18:19

Im a needlessly complicated and complicating little fuck like you. Not that one could try not to be one.

You need to enumerate things for them to be compacted into an algebra.

[IadixDev]

Even your dear bible say that there are sins and temptation to be avoided. If all was so simple and Innate, there would be no sin at all.

"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone." Luke 18:19

You need to enumerate things for them to be compacted into an algebra.

Alebgra doesnt use numbers but variable.

Algebra is not arithmetics.

Geometry is not arithmetics.

[Przemax]

Touche. 1:0 for you there. You had won a watch mister. Needless to say it all comes down to numbers.

[IadixDev]

Touche. 1:0 for you there. You had won a watch mister. Needless to say it all comes down to numbers.

Not really

The simplest example is square root of two, it's not a rational number, Pythagoras knew it existed as the hypothenus of triangle of side 1,could easily be constructed geometrically, but impossible to find through arithmetics

It's same with pi. Im not sure even today we have arithmetic formulation of pi.

Geometry allow to construct things that are beyond arithmetic.

Algebra originally is not even directly related to mathematics.

[Przemax]

Touche. 1:0 for you there. You had won a watch mister. Needless to say it all comes down to numbers.

Not really

The simplest example is square root of two, it's not a rational number, Pythagoras knew it existed as the hypothenus of triangle of side 1,could easily be constructed geometrically, but impossible to find through arithmetics

It's same with pi.

Algebra originally is not even directly related to mathematics.

Exceptions does not make rules obsolete - they make them stronger by being and exceptions.

Oh well...Having 0- false 1- true in logic is enumeration as well.

[IadixDev]

Touche. 1:0 for you there. You had won a watch mister. Needless to say it all comes down to numbers.

Not really

The simplest example is square root of two, it's not a rational number, Pythagoras knew it existed as the hypothenus of triangle of side 1,could easily be constructed geometrically, but impossible to find through arithmetics

It's same with pi.

Algebra originally is not even directly related to mathematics.

Exceptions does not make rules obsolete - they make them stronger by being and exceptions.

Oh well...Having 0- false 1- true in logic is enumeration as well.

Logic is more socratic, principle of non contradiction, mathematics is just one application of logic mostly developped by euclid.

There are many quantities that can be easily constructed via geometry or algebra who doesnt resolve to numbers as in arithmetic.


Algebra deep down comes more from metaphysics / alchemy, science of transformation, principle of equivalence between two different things, even if they are not exactly quantities.

[Przemax]

Algebra deep down comes more from metaphysics / alchemy, science of transformation, principle of equivalence between two different things, even if they are not exactly quantities.

Magic! Another thing forbidden in the Bible. I wonder why.... Oh.. I know... It complicates stuff.

Why create such a concepts like a equivalence of things. You don't believe in voodoo don't you? I hope you don't. You seem to be very intelligent being. I don't want to lose that impression.

[IadixDev]

No its not magic lol

It's like the principle by lavoisier "nothing is created or destroyed, but transformed"

But the principle is older.

Deep down it's monotheistic principle, coming from Islamic science. That everything is a whole, and there is only change of form due to divine action.

Its the principle in metaphysics that there is motion because things "longs" to be somewhere else, due to some inbalance , or that there is motion or evolution because things need to reach a perfect state.

Algebra is related to justice too, as in finding the unknown that created inbalance, and feeling of injustice. As in comiting a sin is creating an inbalance that need to be rebalanced through an act of justice. Hence justice is often represented as a scale.

The principle of holy spirit is a principle of transformation too, with the bible being seen as the agent of transformation.

Could say human + bible = holy spirit. That's a principle of equivalence.

Or you can turn it the other way as

Holy spirit - human = ??

As a "difference" between human as "666" and Enlightenment or holy spirit.

That's algebra.

Alchemy originally is also science of inner transformation, and finding unknown that created inbalance as in seeking the perfect state where things are balanced.

Could say holy spirit is reaching perfect state of balance where nothing more need to be added or removed and being in eternal state of perfection.


The principle of algebra is very rigorous, I think first used in chemistry to represent equivalence between two elements who can be transformed to each others.


Like mineral + mercury = gold.



An equation represent equality between two different things.

It can only come from rigorous monotheist mind.


The origin of algebra is from "theory of balance in nature" from al jabir.


Originally it's not coming from arithmetics or quantities, even if it found application in mathematics and arithmetics very quickly.

[qwik2learn]

Debunking the most common atheist arguments with the records of the Phoenix Project:

We would be justified in believing that an inexplicable event is the work of god only if we were justified in believing that a natural explanation of it would never be found. But we can never be justified in believing that, because we can't predict what the future will bring. We can't rule out the possibility that a natural explanation will be found, no matter how incredible the event. When faced with an inexplicable event, it is always more rational to look for a natural cause than to attribute it to something supernatural. Appealing to the supernatural does not increase our understanding. It simply masks the fact that we do not yet understand.

What's more, any supposed miracle could be the result of a superadvanced technology rather than a supernatural being. Arthur C. Clarke once said that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. So the seemingly inexplicable events that many attribute to god could simply be the work of advanced aliens. Erik von Däniken argues as much in his book Chariots of the Gods, where he claims that the wheel that Ezekiel saw in the sky was really a UFO. Explanations that appeal to advanced aliens are actually superior to explanations that appeal to supernatural beings because they are simpler and more conservative -- they do not postulate any nonphysical substances and they do not presuppose the falsity of any natural laws. If astronomers feel the need to join a church, they would do better to join the First Church of Space Aliens than the First Church of Christ of the Big Bang.

I recommend studying Phoenix Journals to find out the natural explanation for what really happened and clarification on many subjects--the fact is that this Grandmother managed to write a 200-page book EVERY 3 WEEKS FOR YEARS, hundreds of books in total.  How was this prodigious output, covering such a wide range of topics, possible?  Please do not be too quick to reject the truthful answer, that she scribed DIRECTLY for our Heavenly Father, exactly as stated.  There probably has NEVER been a scribe so well connected — including all of the great ones acknowledged in all of the holy books.
This site is the official source of the written records of the evolution of God’s Plan for the New Millennium, from the beginning of the new calendar count in 1987 to the present.
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com

Your “enemy” as to “space aliens” are now all landlocked to your orbiting system.  YOU HAVE NO ENEMIES AMONG THE BROTHERHOOD IN SPACE (COSMOS).  YOU DO HAVE ENEMIES IN YOUR “SPACES” BUT THEY ARE VERY EARTH-ORIENTED AND ORIGINATED.  All of this is explained in depth in the writings—this message is for identification of myself and my coworkers who bring information and assistance at this time of evolution.

The evidence supporting TK, ESP, mediumship, survival/rebirth, ETs, and GOD is all available, these resources will give you a starting point:
http://www.rivier.edu/faculty/pcunningham/Publications/CunninghamJP_Fall-2012-Vol-76-(2)-295-319.pdf
http://www.rivier.edu/faculty/pcunningham/Research/Problem_of_Seths_Origin.pdf

Some background information can be found by a search for "other speakers" on the Phoenix Project website.

Well someone who believes in telekinesis and other supernatural stuff like that can't be really taken too serious. The atheist argument is that there is insufficient evidence for god, that's it, nothing more. None of your links provide any evidence at all.

Actually you cannot be taken too seriously because you cannot explain the video and other demonstrations.

[qwik2learn]

Listen up, Astargath!

You are posting but not doing research, that is not how these discussions work! Do your homework before you claim to know something, otherwise you are only promoting an opinion, I will now show you why your opinion is unreasonable by proving that your claims are unreliable.

Most magicians when they do this kind of thing, well you know that it’s all a show, however in Guy Bavli’s case he tells everyone it is real.

You gave me no reference to the specific tests so you did not even bother to do any work to make sure your opinion about these tests was accurate. You did not conduct a scientific criticism so I will naturally reject your unfounded claims about this phenomenon.
How is it that a mentalist can produce such a distinct and obviously mysterious illusion that also has a unique signature on the EEG? You don't have a clue about how your simple explanation applies in practice? How is Occam's Razor supposed to explain a phenomenon like that without TK? Why is it that the "fake/fraud/illusion" explanation quickly falls apart when faced with having to explain the mountains of evidence already posted here?

40 cases: http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml
EEG of telekinesis in action: http://eegym.com/can-eeg-tell-if-telekinesis-is-a-magicians-trick-2/
Find the telekinesis video on your own: http://googl.com/#q=telekinesis+superhumans