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July 09, 2017, 09:57:16 PM
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Where is the evidence pointing to a God and not to something else?

The evidence is right in what you asked. There isn't anything else. So, all the evidence points to God.

Somebody might suggest that big bang is something else. But BB doesn't even scientifically define a method for intelligence in the universe. BB is out of the picture by its own design.

Do you have a "something else" that you can point at, that makes any sense at all?

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We live in a simulated reality because we are programmed like the matrix, just as an easy example. Aliens that are very intelligent and capable of creating universes. And your argument is a logical fallacy because you are doing an argument from ignorance, oh what else could it be, so because you can't think of a better explanation it means it's God?

Well, thank you for the help Cheesy  You just turned aliens into God.

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You just went full retard this time badecker. Just admit that you failed. There is no point in continuing this thing you are doing, you aren't convincing anyone but yourself, it's obvious at this point that you are struggling to accept what you have been taught for so long and you are doing anything it takes to convince yourself of it, seek some help.

Talk, talk, talk. All you have there is political science. Like the others, you haven't shown any unrebutted rebuttal to the scientific proof that God exists. That's okay, though. We all know that God exists.

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July 10, 2017, 12:25:01 PM
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Where is the evidence pointing to a God and not to something else?

The evidence is right in what you asked. There isn't anything else. So, all the evidence points to God.

Somebody might suggest that big bang is something else. But BB doesn't even scientifically define a method for intelligence in the universe. BB is out of the picture by its own design.

Do you have a "something else" that you can point at, that makes any sense at all?

Cool

We live in a simulated reality because we are programmed like the matrix, just as an easy example. Aliens that are very intelligent and capable of creating universes. And your argument is a logical fallacy because you are doing an argument from ignorance, oh what else could it be, so because you can't think of a better explanation it means it's God?

Well, thank you for the help Cheesy  You just turned aliens into God.

Cool

You just went full retard this time badecker. Just admit that you failed. There is no point in continuing this thing you are doing, you aren't convincing anyone but yourself, it's obvious at this point that you are struggling to accept what you have been taught for so long and you are doing anything it takes to convince yourself of it, seek some help.

Talk, talk, talk. All you have there is political science. Like the others, you haven't shown any unrebutted rebuttal to the scientific proof that God exists. That's okay, though. We all know that God exists.

Cool

I already did and you just ignored it and said that i turned aliens into God?? I mean, it's clear that you won't accept that there is no evidence for the existence of god and you are now desperately trying to convince yourself. It's ok, give it some time maybe you will awake one day.



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July 10, 2017, 12:36:13 PM
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Talk, talk, talk. All you have there is political science. Like the others, you haven't shown any unrebutted rebuttal to the scientific proof that God exists. That's okay, though. We all know that God exists.

Cool

I already did and you just ignored it and said that i turned aliens into God?? I mean, it's clear that you won't accept that there is no evidence for the existence of god and you are now desperately trying to convince yourself. It's ok, give it some time maybe you will awake one day.

The only thing you did was to SAY that you did it.    Cool

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July 10, 2017, 12:53:06 PM
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God is there, if you have a religion must believe god, god only one and have no family, be it father, mother, child, grandchild or grandfather
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July 10, 2017, 05:42:44 PM
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Talk, talk, talk. All you have there is political science. Like the others, you haven't shown any unrebutted rebuttal to the scientific proof that God exists. That's okay, though. We all know that God exists.

Cool

I already did and you just ignored it and said that i turned aliens into God?? I mean, it's clear that you won't accept that there is no evidence for the existence of god and you are now desperately trying to convince yourself. It's ok, give it some time maybe you will awake one day.

The only thing you did was to SAY that you did it.    Cool

You said it has to be god, what else and then you asked me what else could it be. I gave you 2 examples and then you just went full retard and said that I turned aliens into God.



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July 10, 2017, 09:25:08 PM
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Talk, talk, talk. All you have there is political science. Like the others, you haven't shown any unrebutted rebuttal to the scientific proof that God exists. That's okay, though. We all know that God exists.

Cool

I already did and you just ignored it and said that i turned aliens into God?? I mean, it's clear that you won't accept that there is no evidence for the existence of god and you are now desperately trying to convince yourself. It's ok, give it some time maybe you will awake one day.

The only thing you did was to SAY that you did it.    Cool

You said it has to be god, what else and then you asked me what else could it be. I gave you 2 examples and then you just went full retard and said that I turned aliens into God.

But the language that I used was showing you that if aliens made cause and effect, entropy and complexity, then the aliens are God.

But, we are not the same as God. We might be His children, but because we are not the same, God is alien to us... at least in some ways. Also, God is so complex that He at least looks like many - even though He is One. So, God is "aliens" in a strange sense of the language.

The point is that you are agreeing that God exists. And that is part of what this thread is about.

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July 10, 2017, 10:08:54 PM
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God is there, if you have a religion must believe god, god only one and have no family, be it father, mother, child, grandchild or grandfather

Yes I think in the same way. Nobody needs to prove something.

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July 10, 2017, 10:24:42 PM
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Talk, talk, talk. All you have there is political science. Like the others, you haven't shown any unrebutted rebuttal to the scientific proof that God exists. That's okay, though. We all know that God exists.

Cool

I already did and you just ignored it and said that i turned aliens into God?? I mean, it's clear that you won't accept that there is no evidence for the existence of god and you are now desperately trying to convince yourself. It's ok, give it some time maybe you will awake one day.

The only thing you did was to SAY that you did it.    Cool

You said it has to be god, what else and then you asked me what else could it be. I gave you 2 examples and then you just went full retard and said that I turned aliens into God.

But the language that I used was showing you that if aliens made cause and effect, entropy and complexity, then the aliens are God.

But, we are not the same as God. We might be His children, but because we are not the same, God is alien to us... at least in some ways. Also, God is so complex that He at least looks like many - even though He is One. So, God is "aliens" in a strange sense of the language.

The point is that you are agreeing that God exists. And that is part of what this thread is about.

Cool

God is also a virtual reality program?



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July 11, 2017, 04:41:08 AM
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Talk, talk, talk. All you have there is political science. Like the others, you haven't shown any unrebutted rebuttal to the scientific proof that God exists. That's okay, though. We all know that God exists.

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I already did and you just ignored it and said that i turned aliens into God?? I mean, it's clear that you won't accept that there is no evidence for the existence of god and you are now desperately trying to convince yourself. It's ok, give it some time maybe you will awake one day.

The only thing you did was to SAY that you did it.    Cool

You said it has to be god, what else and then you asked me what else could it be. I gave you 2 examples and then you just went full retard and said that I turned aliens into God.

But the language that I used was showing you that if aliens made cause and effect, entropy and complexity, then the aliens are God.

But, we are not the same as God. We might be His children, but because we are not the same, God is alien to us... at least in some ways. Also, God is so complex that He at least looks like many - even though He is One. So, God is "aliens" in a strange sense of the language.

The point is that you are agreeing that God exists. And that is part of what this thread is about.

Cool

God is also a virtual reality program?

The universe is a virtual reality program that God put together. The "almightyness" of God is exceedingly far beyond understanding. But we virtual machines can understand a little of Him.

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July 11, 2017, 05:56:03 AM
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Although I have never seen God, I believe that God exists Wink
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July 11, 2017, 11:59:39 AM
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Although I have never seen God, I believe that God exists Wink

This is an extremely great sentiment. If you maintain it, and find out about Jesus salvation, you will be saved.

However, this topic has to do with scientific proof for the existence of God. Simply believing places it into a religious light. So, to get back on-topic, the scientific proof for the existence of God once again:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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July 11, 2017, 12:01:43 PM
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Talk, talk, talk. All you have there is political science. Like the others, you haven't shown any unrebutted rebuttal to the scientific proof that God exists. That's okay, though. We all know that God exists.

Cool

I already did and you just ignored it and said that i turned aliens into God?? I mean, it's clear that you won't accept that there is no evidence for the existence of god and you are now desperately trying to convince yourself. It's ok, give it some time maybe you will awake one day.

The only thing you did was to SAY that you did it.    Cool

You said it has to be god, what else and then you asked me what else could it be. I gave you 2 examples and then you just went full retard and said that I turned aliens into God.

But the language that I used was showing you that if aliens made cause and effect, entropy and complexity, then the aliens are God.

But, we are not the same as God. We might be His children, but because we are not the same, God is alien to us... at least in some ways. Also, God is so complex that He at least looks like many - even though He is One. So, God is "aliens" in a strange sense of the language.

The point is that you are agreeing that God exists. And that is part of what this thread is about.

Cool

God is also a virtual reality program?

The universe is a virtual reality program that God put together. The "almightyness" of God is exceedingly far beyond understanding. But we virtual machines can understand a little of Him.

Cool

So if it could be aliens or something that is not even sentient why call it God? Unless your definition of god is something else it makes no sense to call anything that created the universe a god.



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July 11, 2017, 05:03:32 PM
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Actually you took this out of context, horace. Skeptics use often use a double standard, that is their fallacy:

https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/skeptical_misdirection#skeptical_misdirection_double_standard

The other common tactic is known as Misrepresenting The Scientific Evidence.
I took what out of what context? Speak to me, explain, come up with arguments, enough with the links already. If you are not able to speak to me and you always need to give me links with what others think that us 'skeptics' are wrong about, then you do not understand anything of it. More than that, I can't understand what you are talking about because you solely posted a link. If you want to answer to what I have said, talk about that, you have it there, you can analyze it and tell me what do you believe is wrong and why. In that way, we can have a proper conversation. Otherwise it will be the same as it is with Badecker, everyone trying to have a conversation and a monkey saying anything that crosses his mind. Let's keep this simple and efficient.
The extraordinary evidence (in favor of parapsychology and survival) has already been provided. I also linked to some examples where this evidence was deliberately ignored by skeptics. Since that information is in the link above, I am including it in our conversation by way of reference; surely you have the ability to read through an essay on the topic of skeptical misdirection because it clearly relates to our discussion about parapsychology.

Psychics and telekinesis were tested by the CIA and other spy agencies and on camera by psychologists.

I have posted a lot of other extraordinary evidence, yet skeptics insist there is no reliable evidence. Why keep up the charade? Skeptics should just come out and say what is so unreliable about the tests done to prove telekinesis.

Sources:
On-Camera test: http://eegym.com/can-eeg-tell-if-telekinesis-is-a-magicians-trick-2/
Test by the United States CIA: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/66xy95/zhang_baosheng_confirmed_cia_psychic_ability_to/

Skeptics in this thread consistently ignore the evidence I posted and it demonstrates that they are not here to learn, instead they like to argue and pat themselves on the back.


Ha!  welcome back my friend!  great episode as always.
thread was starting look to to like the Astergath smackdown of BADecker (no contest)
with a sprinkling of parapsychology nonsense.
 sorry qwik,  but telekinesis not even worth discussing, akin to debating a flat earth




How can you say it is not even worth discussing when I have just posted 2 very serious scientific experiments? You do not even have an answer. Prove to me that you are rational and address this.

The pseudo-skeptics went full retard again and actually admitted to being pseudo-skeptics, because according to the skeptic above, there isn't anything else besides scientism! To be more specific, because he has no answer to what was the cause of the experimental results, he believed in scientism because he learned about it in his youth.

Why is it that atheists in this thread all deny experiments that prove telekinesis but never explain what is  wrong with these trials?
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July 11, 2017, 05:29:50 PM
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Actually you took this out of context, horace. Skeptics use often use a double standard, that is their fallacy:

https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/skeptical_misdirection#skeptical_misdirection_double_standard

The other common tactic is known as Misrepresenting The Scientific Evidence.
I took what out of what context? Speak to me, explain, come up with arguments, enough with the links already. If you are not able to speak to me and you always need to give me links with what others think that us 'skeptics' are wrong about, then you do not understand anything of it. More than that, I can't understand what you are talking about because you solely posted a link. If you want to answer to what I have said, talk about that, you have it there, you can analyze it and tell me what do you believe is wrong and why. In that way, we can have a proper conversation. Otherwise it will be the same as it is with Badecker, everyone trying to have a conversation and a monkey saying anything that crosses his mind. Let's keep this simple and efficient.
The extraordinary evidence (in favor of parapsychology and survival) has already been provided. I also linked to some examples where this evidence was deliberately ignored by skeptics. Since that information is in the link above, I am including it in our conversation by way of reference; surely you have the ability to read through an essay on the topic of skeptical misdirection because it clearly relates to our discussion about parapsychology.

Psychics and telekinesis were tested by the CIA and other spy agencies and on camera by psychologists.

I have posted a lot of other extraordinary evidence, yet skeptics insist there is no reliable evidence. Why keep up the charade? Skeptics should just come out and say what is so unreliable about the tests done to prove telekinesis.

Sources:
On-Camera test: http://eegym.com/can-eeg-tell-if-telekinesis-is-a-magicians-trick-2/
Test by the United States CIA: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/66xy95/zhang_baosheng_confirmed_cia_psychic_ability_to/

Skeptics in this thread consistently ignore the evidence I posted and it demonstrates that they are not here to learn, instead they like to argue and pat themselves on the back.


Ha!  welcome back my friend!  great episode as always.
thread was starting look to to like the Astergath smackdown of BADecker (no contest)
with a sprinkling of parapsychology nonsense.
 sorry qwik,  but telekinesis not even worth discussing, akin to debating a flat earth




How can you say it is not even worth discussing when I have just posted 2 very serious scientific experiments? You do not even have an answer. Prove to me that you are rational and address this.

The pseudo-skeptics went full retard again and actually admitted to being pseudo-skeptics, because according to the skeptic above, there isn't anything else besides scientism! To be more specific, because he has no answer to what was the cause of the experimental results, he believed in scientism because he learned about it in his youth.

Why is it that atheists in this thread all deny experiments that prove telekinesis but never explain what is  wrong with these trials?
First of all, they are not very serious, they are mildly serious and unsolved. There is no conclusion after two experiments and that's they way things work. Phenomenons that claim to suspend the way our reality works need greater observation, experimentation and theory than the laws of science that we understand. It's not even close to conclude anything so we can talk about it but we will never reach a common point which shall make the discussion in vain. Not having an answer yet to some questions or results of experiments does not conclude that it must be paranormal. Some things need a greater time of research, some things may be faux, some we may never find out. Also, science is not an -ism, the only idiots calling it that are the ones that try to find different answers for questions we already have answered. Science is not a system of belief, it works, you are posting now with the help of scientific research in the domain of technology, so for once, please, cut the crap off and pay a bit of respect to the ones who have dedicated their lives into researching something that actually helps you at the moment, you mindless prick. Thank you for your consideration, if there is any.

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July 11, 2017, 05:46:46 PM
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Talk, talk, talk. All you have there is political science. Like the others, you haven't shown any unrebutted rebuttal to the scientific proof that God exists. That's okay, though. We all know that God exists.

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I already did and you just ignored it and said that i turned aliens into God?? I mean, it's clear that you won't accept that there is no evidence for the existence of god and you are now desperately trying to convince yourself. It's ok, give it some time maybe you will awake one day.

The only thing you did was to SAY that you did it.    Cool

You said it has to be god, what else and then you asked me what else could it be. I gave you 2 examples and then you just went full retard and said that I turned aliens into God.

But the language that I used was showing you that if aliens made cause and effect, entropy and complexity, then the aliens are God.

But, we are not the same as God. We might be His children, but because we are not the same, God is alien to us... at least in some ways. Also, God is so complex that He at least looks like many - even though He is One. So, God is "aliens" in a strange sense of the language.

The point is that you are agreeing that God exists. And that is part of what this thread is about.

Cool

God is also a virtual reality program?

The universe is a virtual reality program that God put together. The "almightyness" of God is exceedingly far beyond understanding. But we virtual machines can understand a little of Him.

Cool

So if it could be aliens or something that is not even sentient why call it God? Unless your definition of god is something else it makes no sense to call anything that created the universe a god.

You are not complex enough to be sentient, are you.

Entropy shows us that for there to be "A" amount of complexity, there has to be "B" amount of complexity that is more complex than A.

Anybody or anything that is complex enough to make the universe as we know it, should probably be termed "God." But anybody or anything that has the ability to set up the thousands of years worth of tremendous complexity through cause and effect, definitely IS God.

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July 11, 2017, 08:11:26 PM
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Talk, talk, talk. All you have there is political science. Like the others, you haven't shown any unrebutted rebuttal to the scientific proof that God exists. That's okay, though. We all know that God exists.

Cool

I already did and you just ignored it and said that i turned aliens into God?? I mean, it's clear that you won't accept that there is no evidence for the existence of god and you are now desperately trying to convince yourself. It's ok, give it some time maybe you will awake one day.

The only thing you did was to SAY that you did it.    Cool

You said it has to be god, what else and then you asked me what else could it be. I gave you 2 examples and then you just went full retard and said that I turned aliens into God.

But the language that I used was showing you that if aliens made cause and effect, entropy and complexity, then the aliens are God.

But, we are not the same as God. We might be His children, but because we are not the same, God is alien to us... at least in some ways. Also, God is so complex that He at least looks like many - even though He is One. So, God is "aliens" in a strange sense of the language.

The point is that you are agreeing that God exists. And that is part of what this thread is about.

Cool

God is also a virtual reality program?

The universe is a virtual reality program that God put together. The "almightyness" of God is exceedingly far beyond understanding. But we virtual machines can understand a little of Him.

Cool

So if it could be aliens or something that is not even sentient why call it God? Unless your definition of god is something else it makes no sense to call anything that created the universe a god.

You are not complex enough to be sentient, are you.

Entropy shows us that for there to be "A" amount of complexity, there has to be "B" amount of complexity that is more complex than A.

Anybody or anything that is complex enough to make the universe as we know it, should probably be termed "God." But anybody or anything that has the ability to set up the thousands of years worth of tremendous complexity through cause and effect, definitely IS God.

Cool

No, as you said, it just has to be more complex lol



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July 11, 2017, 10:39:11 PM
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Talk, talk, talk. All you have there is political science. Like the others, you haven't shown any unrebutted rebuttal to the scientific proof that God exists. That's okay, though. We all know that God exists.

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I already did and you just ignored it and said that i turned aliens into God?? I mean, it's clear that you won't accept that there is no evidence for the existence of god and you are now desperately trying to convince yourself. It's ok, give it some time maybe you will awake one day.

The only thing you did was to SAY that you did it.    Cool

You said it has to be god, what else and then you asked me what else could it be. I gave you 2 examples and then you just went full retard and said that I turned aliens into God.

But the language that I used was showing you that if aliens made cause and effect, entropy and complexity, then the aliens are God.

But, we are not the same as God. We might be His children, but because we are not the same, God is alien to us... at least in some ways. Also, God is so complex that He at least looks like many - even though He is One. So, God is "aliens" in a strange sense of the language.

The point is that you are agreeing that God exists. And that is part of what this thread is about.

Cool

God is also a virtual reality program?

The universe is a virtual reality program that God put together. The "almightyness" of God is exceedingly far beyond understanding. But we virtual machines can understand a little of Him.

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So if it could be aliens or something that is not even sentient why call it God? Unless your definition of god is something else it makes no sense to call anything that created the universe a god.

You are not complex enough to be sentient, are you.

Entropy shows us that for there to be "A" amount of complexity, there has to be "B" amount of complexity that is more complex than A.

Anybody or anything that is complex enough to make the universe as we know it, should probably be termed "God." But anybody or anything that has the ability to set up the thousands of years worth of tremendous complexity through cause and effect, definitely IS God.

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Episode 24 - 'The Second Law of Thermoretardis'
At the moment, the complexity of Badecker's stupidity can be properly measured, since there are less probabilities of stupid shit he might spew out. But among all, there is one thing he kept repeating: cause and effect, entropy combined with complexity, etc. We never understood what the actual fuck is he talking about because he would never explain anything, but now he did. And as expected, the fail is greater than ever. Badecker has no idea what entropy is, what complexity refers to. What I believe he meant to say is that the second law of thermodynamics requires that the total entropy of a system can not decrease other by increasing the entropy of another system. The entropy of our system increases, due to the irreversible processes along the time. That is the arrow of entropy. The complexity of a system does not define intelligence, will, power or knowledge. It only refers to the number of microstates available in a system, the more microstates, the harder to understand and predict the system and its state. That is something that happens with our system because of the increase in entropy. The second law of thermodynamics along with entropy are fields that require lots of knowledge, observation, dedication, intelligence, etc. The superficial way in which our idiot Badecker talks about them shows how much he knows about physics in general. The shit he stated earlier is the proof: he is affected by the Second Law of Thermoretardis, where the entropy of his stupidity is decreasing because of his cold brain. His heat of stupidity is flowing to the cold brain, thus decreasing its entropy while increasing his brain's entropy. See you next time, after our retard decides to share some more retarded facts. Much love!

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July 11, 2017, 11:18:27 PM
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Talk, talk, talk. All you have there is political science. Like the others, you haven't shown any unrebutted rebuttal to the scientific proof that God exists. That's okay, though. We all know that God exists.

Cool

I already did and you just ignored it and said that i turned aliens into God?? I mean, it's clear that you won't accept that there is no evidence for the existence of god and you are now desperately trying to convince yourself. It's ok, give it some time maybe you will awake one day.

The only thing you did was to SAY that you did it.    Cool

You said it has to be god, what else and then you asked me what else could it be. I gave you 2 examples and then you just went full retard and said that I turned aliens into God.

But the language that I used was showing you that if aliens made cause and effect, entropy and complexity, then the aliens are God.

But, we are not the same as God. We might be His children, but because we are not the same, God is alien to us... at least in some ways. Also, God is so complex that He at least looks like many - even though He is One. So, God is "aliens" in a strange sense of the language.

The point is that you are agreeing that God exists. And that is part of what this thread is about.

Cool
Please don't put religion and children together, history has shown us that religion has no place anywhere near a child

Edit: I should have added that religion is the cause of all wars and the world would be a much better off place without it.
Ban all religions.

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July 11, 2017, 11:33:17 PM
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If bible, koran, torah and other holy scriptures are wrong this will not prove that there is no God. If there is a God there is no way we can prove his existence if he don't want to. Our civilization is still very young, still many things we cannot explained.
what this guy said, is what i think it is, maybe all religions are wrong but there is a god, to me believing in god
is the most important thing, if you really believe in god you, you don't have to pray for him, he knows what you need, i guess.



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July 12, 2017, 12:55:42 AM
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Talk, talk, talk. All you have there is political science. Like the others, you haven't shown any unrebutted rebuttal to the scientific proof that God exists. That's okay, though. We all know that God exists.

Cool

I already did and you just ignored it and said that i turned aliens into God?? I mean, it's clear that you won't accept that there is no evidence for the existence of god and you are now desperately trying to convince yourself. It's ok, give it some time maybe you will awake one day.

The only thing you did was to SAY that you did it.    Cool

You said it has to be god, what else and then you asked me what else could it be. I gave you 2 examples and then you just went full retard and said that I turned aliens into God.

But the language that I used was showing you that if aliens made cause and effect, entropy and complexity, then the aliens are God.

But, we are not the same as God. We might be His children, but because we are not the same, God is alien to us... at least in some ways. Also, God is so complex that He at least looks like many - even though He is One. So, God is "aliens" in a strange sense of the language.

The point is that you are agreeing that God exists. And that is part of what this thread is about.

Cool
Please don't put religion and children together, history has shown us that religion has no place anywhere near a child

Edit: I should have added that religion is the cause of all wars and the world would be a much better off place without it.
Ban all religions.

Actually, it is the religion of the parents that is the greatest protection for children. It's called the religion of love.

Lack of the religion of love is the cause of the religion of war.

This is a science thread. Get back on topic.

Cool

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