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[child_harold]

ludx: pookielax31, you can follow and post to bitcointalk from the #Bitcointalk channel in slack

so we're all called rutherford now?
Can we change rutherfords's name to shadow?

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[rutherford]

ludx: Now? No, since it's been possible for months allready, it's been offline for some time since I was busy and in the middle of updating some services. We're all called Rutherford? I hope not, but please check what's your name here. I'd suppose people want to mostly use their own nicknames if they actually want to talk in here, I don't. But it's a convenient way to follow what's being posted in here, with the possibility of a quick reply if you don't care that you're talking through a bot. And about the name change, no. Rutherford is a butlers name, shadow is not, could you perhaps change your name to "the one who always whines" if I asked?

[child_harold]

ludx: Now? No, since it's been possible for months allready, it's been offline for some time since I was busy and in the middle of updating some services. We're all called Rutherford? I hope not, but please check what's your name here. I'd suppose people want to mostly use their own nicknames if they actually want to talk in here, I don't. But it's a convenient way to follow what's being posted in here, with the possibility of a quick reply if you don't care that you're talking through a bot. And about the name change, no. Rutherford is a butlers name, shadow is not, could you perhaps change your name to "the one who always whines" if I asked?

Seriously? (you do realize I was being "humorous, yes?)

You were not satisfied with:

And about the name change, no. Rutherford is a butlers name, shadow is not, could you perhaps change your name to Alice if I asked?

and changed it to

And about the name change, no. Rutherford is a butlers name, shadow is not, could you perhaps change your name to "the one who always whines" if I asked?

I'm supposed to be respectful towards members of the Shadow Team.
So Im gonna do the community a favour and not tell you the words that first came into my mind when reading the above.

EDIT: changed my mind. EAT IT ludx

[child_harold]

ludx: Now? No, since it's been possible for months allready, it's been offline for some time since I was busy and in the middle of updating some services. We're all called Rutherford? I hope not, but please check what's your name here. I'd suppose people want to mostly use their own nicknames if they actually want to talk in here, I don't. But it's a convenient way to follow what's being posted in here, with the possibility of a quick reply if you don't care that you're talking through a bot. And about the name change, no. Rutherford is a butlers name, shadow is not, could you perhaps change your name to "the one who always whines" if I asked?

Seriously? (you do realize I was being "humorous, yes?)

You were not satisfied with:

And about the name change, no. Rutherford is a butlers name, shadow is not, could you perhaps change your name to Alice if I asked?

and changed it to

And about the name change, no. Rutherford is a butlers name, shadow is not, could you perhaps change your name to "the one who always whines" if I asked?

I'm supposed to be respectful towards members of the Shadow Team.
So Im gonna do the community a favour and not tell you the words that first came into my mind when reading the above.

EDIT: changed my mind. EAT IT ludx

* child_harold has been pacing around the room like a caged animal for the last 20 mins

OK. Now you've done it ludx. You remind me of all my disappointments.

FACT: At the end of Dec 2014 I held 100k SDC
FACT: The Zeuner Review (due 1st quarter 2015) was supposed to highlight the tech and would have dramatically affected the price.
FACT: You (the Team) broke your promise, and somehow the plan was changed without my noticing. Repeatedly I was told it was near completion by the elusive TR. Still nothing.
FACT: I'm f*cking pissed off about it, yes. WOULDNT YOU BE FFS!!!!!

Now instead of hurling abuse and getting yet another ban (which I wont cause there's other places I need to be) I'll make it simple. Ryno and ryno alone gives the marching orders around here. I take my orders from him. He tells me to walk, I walk.

BUT YOU can keep your frosty finnish opinion to yourself. I have done  enough for SDC.

From now on I'm a silent investor*

Good Luck dadon, erok and the rest

*unless you delete this post in which case I'll come roaring back, savvy?

* child_harold gives ludx a long hard look, gets up from the table and leaves the bar.

[rutherford]

> Seriously? (you do realize I was being "humorous, yes?)

Based on my image of you, no, I don't.

> You were not satisfied with:
> And about the name change, no. Rutherford is a butlers name, shadow is not, could you perhaps change your name to Alice if I asked?
> and changed it to
> And about the name change, no. Rutherford is a butlers name, shadow is not, could you perhaps change your name to "the one who always whines" if I asked?

Correct, to properly describe my sentiment towards you, in my opinion that's a good thing.

>> I'm supposed to be respectful towards members of the Shadow Team.
>> So Im gonna do the community a favour and not tell you the words that first came into my mind when reading the above.
> EDIT: changed my mind. EAT IT ludx

What? How I see it, you're the one who's being disrespectful.

-ludx

[rutherford]

> OK. Now you've done it ludx. You remind me of all my disappointments.
> FACT: At the end of Dec 2014 I held 100k SDC

thats a disappointment?

> FACT: The Zeuner Review (due 1st quarter 2015) was supposed to highlight the tech and would have dramatically affected the price.

FACT: no one can make you a promise about the price.

> FACT: You (the Team) broke your promise, and somehow the plan was changed without my noticing. Repeatedly I was told it was near completion by the elusive TR. Still nothing.

I have no idea of your discussions with TR, Zeuner's not capable of completing the review without help or more documentation and that's why it has been delayed and everyone knows that. The team has nothing to do with it other than being busy working on more important stuff.

> FACT: I'm f*cking pissed off about it, yes. WOULDNT YOU BE FFS!!!!!
FACT: No, I don't think I would.

> Now instead of hurling abuse and getting yet another ban (which I wont cause there's other places I need to be) I'll make it simple. Ryno and ryno
> alone gives the marching orders around here. I take my orders from him. He tells me to walk, I walk.
> BUT YOU can keep your frosty finnish opinion to yourself. I have done  enough for SDC.

I haven't given you any orders what so ever. You complained about all being called rutherford now, I explained to you why it's likely not to happen.

> *unless you delete this post in which case I'll come roaring back, savvy?
Why would I delete posts?

-ludx

[child_harold]

> Seriously? (you do realize I was being "humorous, yes?)

Based on my image of you, no, I don't.

> You were not satisfied with:
> And about the name change, no. Rutherford is a butlers name, shadow is not, could you perhaps change your name to Alice if I asked?
> and changed it to
> And about the name change, no. Rutherford is a butlers name, shadow is not, could you perhaps change your name to "the one who always whines" if I asked?

Correct, to properly describe my sentiment towards you, in my opinion that's a good thing.

WTF? You continue to insult me?

Look mate. The review was commissioned, a bounty raised (which I donated to) and nothing since. My disappointment is palpable and you continue to wind me up?

Oh and by the way many many posts are deleted form this thread.

[SebSebastian]

[rutherford]

ludx: Where in there do you see an insult?

[SebSebastian]

Seriously, do you want to take the rest of this somewhere else?

Maybe we could get a #group-therapy channel going on slack.

[child_harold]

ludx: Where in there do you see an insult?

Saying: "the one who always whines"… "properly describe my sentiment towards you" is an insult in any language

[rutherford]

ludx: seb, this is a channel in slack :smile:

[rustynailer]

My head hurts.   

[Automatic Monkey]

I've argued with friends on this one. It's highly controversial and off-topic so Ill be brief:

Post-Snowden:

1) No resignations after the "leaks"
2) Increased NSA budget following the "leaks"
3) People believe the NSA has godlike powers (even more than they did before imo).
4) The slow trickle of info now results in some people (an increasing number imo) being bored by "privacy"
5) No significant policy shift post-Snowden.

Has anything really changed for the better I ask? (rhetorically I suppose since it's off-topic)

p.s. what if his last slide tells us all how Bitcoin is a Govt project to testbed the ushering in of the digital currency era, now all govs are bankrupt? What will people say then? Even better a "transparent" blockchain… doesnt sound private at all. This term pseudo-anonymous is a red herring. Either your financials are private or not, I've never heard the term "semi-private".

Seems to me people believe everything Snowden says. This is fucking dangerous.

p.p.s No worries Snowden fans. Before too long he'll return to the US and be celebrated as a hero. Mark my words.

There have been no resignations or policy changes on this for the same reason there haven't been any for any other reason in the Obama regime. He is such an egotist that acquiescing to even a tiny, very legitimate request from his political opponents he would find too humiliating,  and the far left press that dominates in the US will back him up, mostly out of fear.

Our biggest enemy here is not the NSA but the IRS. All the flowery rhetoric about the need to eliminate financial privacy to fight terrorism, protect the children, all of that crap, is really about making sure the IRS gets their money.

[child_harold]

From now on I'm a silent investor

My head hurts too rusty. This will be my last post in this thread for the foreseeable future. I have no intention of sticking around only to get insulted for saying the words that many of us are thinking. I have no desire to become some kinda messed up martyr taking beatings from all directions. Having said that I have a great affection for many members of this community and will be sad not to be spending more time with you. Many of you have moved me with your kind words and I thank you for those. Sadly this incident with ludx is "the straw that broke the camel's back".

Today rynomster is in church. May his prayers go with you all.

Goodbye, at least for now.

* child_harold walks into the shadows

P.S WHO IS HOLDING ALL THE COINS? FROM CONVOS I CAN ACCOUNT FOR ONLY ~1 MILLION. SKIP WAS THE LARGEST PUBLIC HOLDER AND DUMPED HIS 200K YESTERDAY.

[LemonAndFriesOne]

Our biggest enemy here is not the NSA but the IRS. All the flowery rhetoric about the need to eliminate financial privacy to fight terrorism, protect the children, all of that crap, is really about making sure the IRS gets their money.

So how do you suppose all public services should be financed? Private companies? It's funny when nonsense is spilled out.

[lawgicc]

The price is being manipulated by a group of people. I know this for a fact.

Dont count on the price launching to its "true value" until the Market drops. IF and when the market is released you will see the true value of this coin given the Market is running fine. Dont be fooled, alot of you noobs cant see past more than a week in cryptospace cause you fools are so damn impatient and gullible always jumping ship finding the next best crypto to make a quick buck. Well, SDC is going to be the future in crypto if all goes as planned ( which is highly likely with this dev team ) AND SMART traders know this. You dont even have to be a trader, but a smart bag holder. If you have invested in SDC, tuck it away and let it sit there....LIKE OLskool Bitcoin. You will be soon scrambling to find your encryption keys and wallet.dat when the true value of SDC is reached....which IMO should be a couple times more valuable that this one coin i heard of called DASH or something..maybe Darkcoin? IDK its one of those, but all i know is SDC will easily surpass any ANON coin, and perhaps Bitcoin since one of the main purposes of Bitcoin was its anonymity which isnt too anonymous anymore.

Point being....50k Sats for SDC is a steal...even 100k Sats is stupid cheap. The price is being held down simple as that. It might even tank more cause these whales want more SDC and all you sheep just follow the crowd.

If it were me, Id be holding down the price until the market gets released, ( if it ever does ) , maybe make a simple goof with the market that causes the price of SDC to DROP aka bad news, accumulation period cause you sheep like to panic sell, then somehow the market is fixed aka good news and all you noobs coming running back to hold SDC once the price has already tripled.


Thats the way I see it.

Stop trading other cryptos. Let them die out. They are pointless.

Do the numbers. If everyone would stop trying to get rich off their own crypto and started just using one universal crypto....the price of each coin would be outrageous. But no, all you fucks like iBits, Dibbits, and all this other bullshit.

[dasource]

We lasted three weeks? great, thank you for your positive contribution to The Shadow Project.

This is starting to get boring now.
You think a single peer review of ShadowSend.v2 means it is perfect? No it does not.

It took years and several dozens if not hundreds of peer reviews on Bitcoin. What the Shadow development team has done is "put its money where its mouth is" and quite frankly has protected your investment for years to come by incentiving users to 1. peer review and 2. pre-disclose any security vulnerabilities so they can be fixed (this is exactly how ethical hackers work).

I wish you would start to look at the good people do rather than always the negative.

Over and out!

[dasource]

https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2015/08/06/firefox-exploit-found-in-the-wild/
If you're using Tor Browser, go to about:config & set pdfjs.disabled until this is fixed.

[heartastack]

Lot of conversations on here that aren't making sense for a new holder.

Anyone got a 2 or 3 line summary of the ups and downs being discussed here?