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September 25, 2015, 01:28:03 PM
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We are anonymous,

we are legion,

we do not forgive,

we de not forget,

expect #ShadowLeaks release next weeK!

Pretty sleazy when you need to create a new account to say something as pointless as this...

I'll take that as a reminder to buy a few thousand more SDC today.  Grin
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September 25, 2015, 01:29:16 PM
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Why the dumps ?
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September 25, 2015, 02:58:06 PM
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Does this coin have any leadership?
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September 25, 2015, 03:47:15 PM
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Does this coin have any leadership?


what do you mean by leadership ?

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By the way I've seen a lot of questions lately, and a lot were answered ~today on the slack channel.

I will make a blog post gathering all those questions & answers, so that can help the community.


if you have some (useful, interesting) questions, you can ask there or on #general or #questions channels on Slack.

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September 25, 2015, 04:32:23 PM
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Why the dumps ?

Unsure. I'm assuming it's related to the slight increase with BTC and LTC as the week's gone on.
I don't mind, I'm happy coins are available this low, makes my weekend  Cool
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September 25, 2015, 05:06:59 PM
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Why the dumps ?

Unsure. I'm assuming it's related to the slight increase with BTC and LTC as the week's gone on.
I don't mind, I'm happy coins are available this low, makes my weekend  Cool

Yeah. Grab your buckets and load silly cheap SDCs when you can :]

With the way development is going, I won't say we will have this opportunity again.

Have a nice weekend everyone!

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September 25, 2015, 05:36:52 PM
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Why the dumps ?

Unsure. I'm assuming it's related to the slight increase with BTC and LTC as the week's gone on.
I don't mind, I'm happy coins are available this low, makes my weekend  Cool

Sure, its the global warming effect..
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September 25, 2015, 07:12:52 PM
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pump back  Cheesy
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September 25, 2015, 08:52:46 PM
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Why the dumps ?

It dumps because its a shitty coin and people star to see this. No more people want to buy, only sellers left. Now the house of cards will fall.

I need crypto in my life and garbage out of it.
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September 25, 2015, 09:20:16 PM
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SDC is very nice, not at the dump

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September 26, 2015, 07:24:42 AM
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Good day my fellow Shadowers,

what I saw is a classic price manipulation with low volume market.
It was not really a dump. We use to have a lots of "dumps" or I would say trades in past, almost every week one-two bigger amount..

The true is that price go down a little. If you didn't sell, everything is ok  Smiley

Do not fall on those panic behavior like fud, huge sell walls, no buy support..


Team and devs working hard, every day, and we will get perfect product out very soon.


Live long and prosper!
Cool

Regards to all of you
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September 26, 2015, 05:46:55 PM
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You FUD me? All my points are valid. I'm not crazy although I almost went out of my mind waiting for Zeuner.

I'll tell you a story…


His name is Ivan. He's a software developer.

My enthusiasm for SDC at the time led him to read the shadowsendv2 whitepaper at http://shadow.cash/downloads/shadowcash-anon.pdf and download the windows wallet about four months ago. Ivan described the wallet as buggy and unresponsive and he was equally upset by the whitepaper which he criticized for being uninformative and incomplete. He asked why both NIZKPs and ring sigs were being used when, as he understood things, either one on its own was sufficient to provide anonymity. Ivan did not invest.

You might like to think of Ivan as a figment of my imagination as I sit there ranting to myself. Alas no, he's real. And he's right. The whitepaper is somewhere between not good at all and really really bad. The previous whitepaper for shadowchat (which Ivan has not read) seems equally thin and is even shorter in length. It does not appear much effort has gone into producing the whitepaper, and even less so any other technical documentation. It is completely understandable Zeuner would request more information.

Security and anonymity in software cannot be claimed but rather must be proven over time through rigorous testing and expert analysis. I do not understand why nine months after the release of shadowsendv2 we are still nowhere closer to understanding the technology, and I find it hard to believe the creators would not be proud enough to have explained by now. Trusting the in-house cryptographer who has never posted anywhere and is an unknown entity is simply not good enough after almost 10 months.

Furthermore It is unclear if the market will be suitable for selling contraband since human readable addresses are required to send goods to, as they always must be I suppose. What prevents FBI honeypots and under-covers gathering customer information? I do not know. Sending money anonymously appears a lower hanging fruit than sending goods anonymously.

As things stand now there is no hope of any tech documentation or improved whitepaper or Zeuner review or ANY review until well into 2016. In fact given recent comments I would not be surprised if Zeuner told the Team to shove it and returned the 5BTC, assuming he holds the private key to the donation address.

As I see it you have two choices:


1.) Publish a new and improved whitepaper and technical documentation and provide closure on matters raised regarding the PoW phase which lasted not 30 but 11 days and what appears to be a powerful solo miner.

2.) Or not, and risk losing more credibility.


I am not the only one who feels this way…
* child_harold drops the mic


Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
I'm a schizophrenic,
And so am I.


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THE END




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September 26, 2015, 06:21:10 PM
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wheatclove: Don’t care.

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September 27, 2015, 03:44:21 PM
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Weak attack from a weak person who feels overpowering behind his computer.

Drop the mic and go out. YOU LOSE!
PRICE is already recovering from your FUDS attempts.

For you: https://youtu.be/oGTbiXEeb_c?t=10m1s
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September 28, 2015, 03:46:13 PM
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You FUD me? All my points are valid. I'm not crazy although I almost went out of my mind waiting for Zeuner.

I'll tell you a story…


His name is Ivan. He's a software developer.

My enthusiasm for SDC at the time led him to read the shadowsendv2 whitepaper at http://shadow.cash/downloads/shadowcash-anon.pdf and download the windows wallet about four months ago. Ivan described the wallet as buggy and unresponsive and he was equally upset by the whitepaper which he criticized for being uninformative and incomplete. He asked why both NIZKPs and ring sigs were being used when, as he understood things, either one on its own was sufficient to provide anonymity. Ivan did not invest.

You might like to think of Ivan as a figment of my imagination as I sit there ranting to myself. Alas no, he's real. And he's right. The whitepaper is somewhere between not good at all and really really bad. The previous whitepaper for shadowchat (which Ivan has not read) seems equally thin and is even shorter in length. It does not appear much effort has gone into producing the whitepaper, and even less so any other technical documentation. It is completely understandable Zeuner would request more information.

Security and anonymity in software cannot be claimed but rather must be proven over time through rigorous testing and expert analysis. I do not understand why nine months after the release of shadowsendv2 we are still nowhere closer to understanding the technology, and I find it hard to believe the creators would not be proud enough to have explained by now. Trusting the in-house cryptographer who has never posted anywhere and is an unknown entity is simply not good enough after almost 10 months.

Furthermore It is unclear if the market will be suitable for selling contraband since human readable addresses are required to send goods to, as they always must be I suppose. What prevents FBI honeypots and under-covers gathering customer information? I do not know. Sending money anonymously appears a lower hanging fruit than sending goods anonymously.

As things stand now there is no hope of any tech documentation or improved whitepaper or Zeuner review or ANY review until well into 2016. In fact given recent comments I would not be surprised if Zeuner told the Team to shove it and returned the 5BTC, assuming he holds the private key to the donation address.

As I see it you have two choices:


1.) Publish a new and improved whitepaper and technical documentation and provide closure on matters raised regarding the PoW phase which lasted not 30 but 11 days and what appears to be a powerful solo miner.

2.) Or not, and risk losing more credibility.


I am not the only one who feels this way…
* child_harold drops the mic


Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
I'm a schizophrenic,
And so am I.


- Bill Murray, What About Bob?, 1991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptmP1lziJw4

THE END





The only credibility problem here is you! I thought you were done here? No one wants to hear your stories, or anything else you have to say. Please honor your word, and get lost!
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September 28, 2015, 04:01:41 PM
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Weak attack from a weak person who feels overpowering behind his computer.

Drop the mic and go out. YOU LOSE!
PRICE is already recovering from your FUDS attempts.

For you: https://youtu.be/oGTbiXEeb_c?t=10m1s

THIS IS IT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xaCP7WDOJE
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September 29, 2015, 01:08:08 PM
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Does the chart below show cumulative transactions over time or daily transactions? I'm assuming it is a running total.



Approaching 4 Million SDT! Plenty available when the doors open for business.
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Does the chart below show cumulative transactions over time or daily transactions? I'm assuming it is a running total.



Approaching 4 Million SDT! Plenty available when the doors open for business.

I have been meaning to make this easier to understand .. just not got around to it.

"blue" - total # of SDC and SDT transacted (value)
"black" - total # of Shadow Tokens created (value) (the more SDT available the better for anonymity!)
"green" - total # of SDC currently destroyed

^ I am with STUPID!
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September 30, 2015, 02:03:15 AM
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Does the chart below show cumulative transactions over time or daily transactions? I'm assuming it is a running total.



Approaching 4 Million SDT! Plenty available when the doors open for business.

I have been meaning to make this easier to understand .. just not got around to it.

"blue" - total # of SDC and SDT transacted (value)
"black" - total # of Shadow Tokens created (value) (the more SDT available the better for anonymity!)
"green" - total # of SDC currently destroyed

How can the number of SDC destroyed go down?

Also, if we wanted to convert some SDC to SDT to create outputs for the network, what do you think would be the optimum value to use? It seems like there should be some value that would create the most SDT outputs per SDC converted.

Try ShadowCash, the first coin with instant and decentralized private transactions!
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September 30, 2015, 02:05:07 AM
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SDC Destroyed is the amount of SDC that is currently "missing" from the blockchain. So when SDT are redeemed for new SDC, that number decreases.
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