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My guess is he had less hash when he won in December and used the coins to expand to 200+
Either way the random nature of mining means there is no guarantee of finding the expected number of blocks. ... and a sample of 4 blocks out of many thousands means that trying to consider the actual outcome to even vaguely match expected outcome is incorrect. Yes true 1 sample of a 200th miner over 2 months may be as low as 0 blocks found and as high as 10 or even 20 blocks found. The average would be 6. Since none of us have tracked this miner for the entire time we don't even know if he was 200th for the 60 days. I was just doing some idol chit chat speculating if he is lucky and above his 'norm' or unlucky if he is below his 'norm'. I like the 2 pools you run. I have a little here and I am all in on the other pool you run. Phillip you are mining with a finger in every pie, and I have been telling myself that is the only way with the prices and culture of scams the way it is. You have to mine, trade, do reviews, buy and sell miners at least to help friends and the community, and then you need to make sure you know the apis and understand the blockchain at a glance. Those sound liek the fun things actually, but I don't like thinking negative... Like political crap. Closed door stuff, specials for specials. Another reason I like CK and Kano, they do not come across like scum ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That is definitely a compliment! Seriously, Phillip you too, learning a lot from you guys. It is appreciated and will be shown. Thanks. Phillip, if I may ask, do you keep a regular amount of hash here? I understand if you wouldn't want to mention specific amounts, I was trying to think if throwing an S3 here and forgetting about it would be good. but then I start thinking what about an sp20 here and think about it heh I have 13th at kano's pool. this pool always has at least some usb sticks and some times an s-3 or s-5. once in a while I buy 20th or 40 th and mine an hour or two. this pool is also listed as a backup pool on all my miners.
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February 04, 2015, 06:47:01 AM |
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My guess is he had less hash when he won in December and used the coins to expand to 200+
Either way the random nature of mining means there is no guarantee of finding the expected number of blocks. ... and a sample of 4 blocks out of many thousands means that trying to consider the actual outcome to even vaguely match expected outcome is incorrect. Yes true 1 sample of a 200th miner over 2 months may be as low as 0 blocks found and as high as 10 or even 20 blocks found. The average would be 6. Since none of us have tracked this miner for the entire time we don't even know if he was 200th for the 60 days. I was just doing some idol chit chat speculating if he is lucky and above his 'norm' or unlucky if he is below his 'norm'. I like the 2 pools you run. I have a little here and I am all in on the other pool you run. Phillip you are mining with a finger in every pie, and I have been telling myself that is the only way with the prices and culture of scams the way it is. You have to mine, trade, do reviews, buy and sell miners at least to help friends and the community, and then you need to make sure you know the apis and understand the blockchain at a glance. Those sound liek the fun things actually, but I don't like thinking negative... Like political crap. Closed door stuff, specials for specials. Another reason I like CK and Kano, they do not come across like scum ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That is definitely a compliment! Seriously, Phillip you too, learning a lot from you guys. It is appreciated and will be shown. Thanks. Phillip, if I may ask, do you keep a regular amount of hash here? I understand if you wouldn't want to mention specific amounts, I was trying to think if throwing an S3 here and forgetting about it would be good. but then I start thinking what about an sp20 here and think about it heh I have 13th at kano's pool. this pool always has at least some usb sticks and some times an s-3 or s-5. once in a while I buy 20th or 40 th and mine an hour or two. this pool is also listed as a backup pool on all my miners. Well ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Actually ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You can reduce your PPLNS mining variance ... by mining on lots of (trustworthy) PPLNS mining pools ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 05, 2015, 06:38:05 AM Last edit: February 05, 2015, 10:25:43 AM by ckolivas |
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Scheduled restart performed to disable the debug version that was running on the pool and incorporate some new relatively safe changes.
As a result of the new changes you should see a new stat "lastupdate" which shows when the stats were last updated and is used internally by the pool in case of downtime to know whether to carry over statistics or not, so not of great importance to miners, but it does mean the statistics carried across restarts will be accurate now, including the pool's 7 day average etc.
The main reason for restarting is the non-debug version uses a lot less ram and thanks to the many changes over the last few weeks (and the unfortunate instability for a period there) ckpool is now using only ~100MB for up to 1000 users leaving me with a lot of headroom on the server now for massive numbers of clients should many fail over here or people decide to rent out every farm in existence and point it here.
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February 05, 2015, 02:14:23 PM |
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My guess is he had less hash when he won in December and used the coins to expand to 200+
Either way the random nature of mining means there is no guarantee of finding the expected number of blocks. ... and a sample of 4 blocks out of many thousands means that trying to consider the actual outcome to even vaguely match expected outcome is incorrect. Yes true 1 sample of a 200th miner over 2 months may be as low as 0 blocks found and as high as 10 or even 20 blocks found. The average would be 6. Since none of us have tracked this miner for the entire time we don't even know if he was 200th for the 60 days. I was just doing some idol chit chat speculating if he is lucky and above his 'norm' or unlucky if he is below his 'norm'. I like the 2 pools you run. I have a little here and I am all in on the other pool you run. Phillip you are mining with a finger in every pie, and I have been telling myself that is the only way with the prices and culture of scams the way it is. You have to mine, trade, do reviews, buy and sell miners at least to help friends and the community, and then you need to make sure you know the apis and understand the blockchain at a glance. Those sound liek the fun things actually, but I don't like thinking negative... Like political crap. Closed door stuff, specials for specials. Another reason I like CK and Kano, they do not come across like scum ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That is definitely a compliment! Seriously, Phillip you too, learning a lot from you guys. It is appreciated and will be shown. Thanks. Phillip, if I may ask, do you keep a regular amount of hash here? I understand if you wouldn't want to mention specific amounts, I was trying to think if throwing an S3 here and forgetting about it would be good. but then I start thinking what about an sp20 here and think about it heh I have 13th at kano's pool. this pool always has at least some usb sticks and some times an s-3 or s-5. once in a while I buy 20th or 40 th and mine an hour or two. this pool is also listed as a backup pool on all my miners. Where do you go to buy 20 or 40 th? How much is it?
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February 05, 2015, 04:35:24 PM Last edit: February 05, 2015, 04:46:18 PM by philipma1957 |
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@ ck I am doing this show how easy it is to rent some hash to mine with you. yeah I do nice hash or west hash every once in a while. I think I will set up some funds in my west hash account and shoot some th here for a while. I just sent .117 btc to my westhash account. I picked .117 btc because it round off my money in my wallet to 1.35btc since there are some fees I like to do at least .1 btc when I send money to westhash or nice hash. I will wait an hour or so to let the money clear. I will post the order to mine here later today. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F1024x768q90%2F901%2Fg2bU0G.png&t=665&c=6VfA1VK1_47P2g)
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February 05, 2015, 04:48:32 PM |
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@ ck I am doing this show how easy it is to rent some hash to mine with you. yeah I do nice hash or west hash every once in a while. I think I will set up some funds in my west hash account and shoot some th here for a while. I just sent .117 btc to my westhash account. I picked .117 btc because it round off my money in my wallet to 1.35btc since there are some fees I like to do at least .1 btc when I send money to westhash or nice hash. I will wait an hour or so to let the money clear. I will post the order to mine here later today. Very nice description. Although, I may be a little upset if you find a block....
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February 05, 2015, 07:44:51 PM |
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So, you can point nicehash rental to specific pools, ie. ck's solo pool?
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February 05, 2015, 09:04:16 PM Last edit: February 05, 2015, 09:20:13 PM by philipma1957 |
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I spent 0.055 btc of my 0.117 btc to buy 20th hash for 6 hours or so. Maybe I take a shot in a day with the 0.062 left And here is the how to. you can use westhash if you are western hemisphere nicehash if you are the rest of the world. transfer some money into the account you open I sent 0.117 btc I have 0.117 btc. I live in the USA so I used nicehash fill in with ck's pool your btc addy etc ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F537%2FtB1tHY.png&t=665&c=I0OpiAHF2_nsaw) full size http://imageshack.com/a/img537/4525/tB1tHY.pngi did 20 th I did about half the btc I have .055 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F540%2FmUwzYM.png&t=665&c=mS2QSu5NVyDxBw) I had only a usb stick running solo here see hash ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F910%2FJ6dGOH.png&t=665&c=iNKzkLQZpoWSgw) starts ramping up I am at .75th here ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F673%2FYvgWa3.png&t=665&c=tHeUl_h3RDeHAw) ck's pool see's some of my added hash now ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F907%2Fi0irKG.png&t=665&c=3lKWRiInS86NAQ) I paid at 0.0118 to be higher then the 0.0116 guy in blue ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F661%2FEbUeRy.png&t=665&c=OkggHhf8fA4fiw) here i am in on the west hash list ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F661%2FkTWsB3.png&t=665&c=MZJogJL52NTXiQ) here i am up to 15.7th for about 6.5 hours and on ck's pool ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F901%2FZ2fHTL.png&t=665&c=cFRxDeiNiuWxwg)
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February 05, 2015, 10:24:58 PM |
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Wow, Phil. Thanks for the info. Your posts are very informative! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 05, 2015, 10:49:41 PM |
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you are welcome. ck runs this pool and I am happy to show people a way to rent to play his pool.
A few things to understand west and nice hash are the same company. if you rent from them like I am doing now you can be bumped by higher renters . I picked 0.0118 as what I want to pay. So if some one pays 0.0120 and buys enough hash I get bumped.
I can wait for the high player to finish or I can bump higher.
When I play ck's pool I wait for higher bidders to finish. I don't bother getting into bidding wars.
Solo pools are all or nothing. They key to renting hash is don't overpay like crazy.
The .055 I spent here is about 30 usd tops not bad for a chance at 6000 bucks. I could go into the math but if you can go close to the current rate for 1th you are not doing badly odds wise. If you pay a lot more then the going rate you are doing badly with the odds.
right now 0.01219 is normal rate for 1th.. I am paying 0.0118 plus a 2% fee or about 0.01204 and I am paying no power cost.
So basically it is a bargain.
Kind of like getting 1020 to 1 on a 3 digit number.
Rather then 1000 to 1
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February 05, 2015, 11:14:02 PM |
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i'm thinking of renting the 2ph farm at betarigs. but i'm so lucky that even if i put in 50btc, i dunno if i will find a block...
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February 05, 2015, 11:20:06 PM |
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i'm thinking of renting the 2ph farm at betarigs. but i'm so lucky that even if i put in 50btc, i dunno if i will find a block...
you better off popping 0.1 btc on even days and 0.2 btc on odd days. and only doing it when the hash rate is cheap. beta rigs is costly but you stay locked into the contract it is better to use them with a hot coin.
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February 06, 2015, 12:05:49 AM |
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where is the fun in that? Nothing beats the thrill of finding a block! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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February 06, 2015, 02:21:59 PM |
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i'm thinking of renting the 2ph farm at betarigs. but i'm so lucky that even if i put in 50btc, i dunno if i will find a block...
Yeah, saw that. The thing is, it's 29 BTC to rent. The odds say at 2 PH, you'll find a block. Problem is, at 29 BTC, you'd better find at least 2 blocks, or you'll be losing money.
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February 06, 2015, 06:08:22 PM |
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can be rented for a shorter period of time, like 3h 3 hours for 3.605 BTC and 3 hours for 3.73375 BTC seen in the rental history ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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February 06, 2015, 06:53:15 PM |
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can be rented for a shorter period of time, like 3h 3 hours for 3.605 BTC and 3 hours for 3.73375 BTC seen in the rental history ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Oh, I see!... That's one way to play it... hope you get the lucky part!... ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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February 07, 2015, 01:33:10 AM |
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trying my luck right now wish me luck
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