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It looks like it's still confusing. Someone just bet 100 BTC when the pot was 42.1294. If they win, they'll get 92.1294 BTC back (half of their bet goes into the pot they can win), for a loss of around 8 BTC. And if they lose, they won't get anything back. It's a lose/lose proposition. No, sir, that was me funding the pot a bit which is why there is no listed transaction for it on the satoshidice web page.
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July 02, 2012, 11:45:30 PM |
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No, sir, that was me funding the pot a bit which is why there is no listed transaction for it on the satoshidice web page. Ahhh. Very good...
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July 02, 2012, 11:46:27 PM |
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Was the previous 100 BTC bet you too, when the odds were fixed at 16:1?
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July 03, 2012, 02:41:33 AM |
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That scrennshot tells me nothing. Tx id's do tell the story, screenshots are nothing more than noise. Especially when you name your address "wall3t" instead of showing it. The blockchain doesn't lie. Incredible, isn't it? Also, do you even realise that there is no transaction with that value on the address that you say the 2cents are missing, so, it can't be the same address? How about you go to your Bitcoin client options and mark the checkbox that says "Show addresses in tx list"? Then you'll see that the address you so conveniently call "wall3t" is this one: 1Jc9rBK9UcBDFczSiR6sCn3KAZaKeNCvuYAlso: STOP LABELING ALL YOUR ADDRESSES WITH "wall3t"! FFS... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I didn't know you could do that, chill out. http://oi50.tinypic.com/j754j9.jpgI'm not some scammer trying to get two cents here, I'm just saying that personally, as a newer individual in this whole Bitcoin thing, I'm curious why only .52 was received if the Blockchain says it's .78. I could give a rats ass about actually receiving it, but in the interest of future investors (myself included) in your beloved currency I feel there's a need for an explanation as to why/how coins were skimped in this case. That's all I'm asking, what happened to them?
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July 03, 2012, 03:22:12 AM |
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That's all I'm asking, what happened to them?
Here's what happened: You made two bets of 0.04 BTC around the same time. One way on "lessthan 32000" and the other was on "lessthan 48000". They both won. One won 0.05240186 BTC and the other won 0.07875280 BTC. You're looking at the payment of the 0.05240186 BTC and asking why it isn't 0.07875280 BTC. Here are details of the two bets you made: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FooAth.png&t=665&c=OASRXfkLI7PShQ) To see them for yourself, click here and here. You can see from the address that received the 0.05240186 that it is from the "lessthan 48000" bet. If you scroll down a bit in the transactions list you should see the other payment. I don't know if I can make it any clearer than this, but if you still don't understand, please let me know which bit you're not following, and I'll try to explain further.
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July 03, 2012, 10:19:37 AM Last edit: July 03, 2012, 10:42:13 AM by psy |
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That scrennshot tells me nothing. Tx id's do tell the story, screenshots are nothing more than noise. Especially when you name your address "wall3t" instead of showing it. The blockchain doesn't lie. Incredible, isn't it? Also, do you even realise that there is no transaction with that value on the address that you say the 2cents are missing, so, it can't be the same address? How about you go to your Bitcoin client options and mark the checkbox that says "Show addresses in tx list"? Then you'll see that the address you so conveniently call "wall3t" is this one: 1Jc9rBK9UcBDFczSiR6sCn3KAZaKeNCvuYAlso: STOP LABELING ALL YOUR ADDRESSES WITH "wall3t"! FFS... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I didn't know you could do that, chill out. http://oi50.tinypic.com/j754j9.jpgI'm not some scammer trying to get two cents here, I'm just saying that personally, as a newer individual in this whole Bitcoin thing, I'm curious why only .52 was received if the Blockchain says it's .78. I could give a rats ass about actually receiving it, but in the interest of future investors (myself included) in your beloved currency I feel there's a need for an explanation as to why/how coins were skimped in this case. That's all I'm asking, what happened to them? 1- I'm chilled out, what makes you think I'm not? 2- I never said you are a scammer or that you were trying to scam 2 bitcents (lol?) 3- My beloved currency is working just great. This is a clear cut case of a user not knowing how to read, sorry to break the bad news to you. 4- You are still confusing the 0.052 transaction with the 0.078, despite being told already they are not the same and now you can even see for yourself they aren't the same since you already have the address next to the label, which only further enhances my previous point. 5- Try typing, or even copy/pasting 1LtYUNi4sjNEtJtRdqgstbngKxhtAtX95R on that text field of your Bitcoin client that says "Enter address or label to search" and you'll see the transaction there, even without the need for scrolling.
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July 03, 2012, 09:43:41 PM Last edit: July 03, 2012, 09:56:29 PM by SellStuff |
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That scrennshot tells me nothing. Tx id's do tell the story, screenshots are nothing more than noise. Especially when you name your address "wall3t" instead of showing it. The blockchain doesn't lie. Incredible, isn't it? Also, do you even realise that there is no transaction with that value on the address that you say the 2cents are missing, so, it can't be the same address? How about you go to your Bitcoin client options and mark the checkbox that says "Show addresses in tx list"? Then you'll see that the address you so conveniently call "wall3t" is this one: 1Jc9rBK9UcBDFczSiR6sCn3KAZaKeNCvuYAlso: STOP LABELING ALL YOUR ADDRESSES WITH "wall3t"! FFS... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I didn't know you could do that, chill out. http://oi50.tinypic.com/j754j9.jpgI'm not some scammer trying to get two cents here, I'm just saying that personally, as a newer individual in this whole Bitcoin thing, I'm curious why only .52 was received if the Blockchain says it's .78. I could give a rats ass about actually receiving it, but in the interest of future investors (myself included) in your beloved currency I feel there's a need for an explanation as to why/how coins were skimped in this case. That's all I'm asking, what happened to them? 1- I'm chilled out, what makes you think I'm not? 2- I never said you are a scammer or that you were trying to scam 2 bitcents (lol?) 3- My beloved currency is working just great. This is a clear cut case of a user not knowing how to read, sorry to break the bad news to you. 4- You are still confusing the 0.052 transaction with the 0.078, despite being told already they are not the same and now you can even see for yourself they aren't the same since you already have the address next to the label, which only further enhances my previous point. 5- Try typing, or even copy/pasting 1LtYUNi4sjNEtJtRdqgstbngKxhtAtX95R on that text field of your Bitcoin client that says "Enter address or label to search" and you'll see the transaction there, even without the need for scrolling. Capslock doesn't exactly give that relaxing feeling, 'ya know? If I was confusing the transactions the only reason for that is that .052 is the only one I actually see received. http://oi45.tinypic.com/29x7scm.jpgSeems like I just never received that then?
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July 04, 2012, 07:34:11 PM |
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July 05, 2012, 01:12:26 AM |
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Is it known how much money is bet on satoshidice per day?
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SealsWithClubs poker room has over 400 players online. Buy in from .01 to 60btc. BTCSportsMatch lets you bet sports with vig free lines! Best kept secret in bitcoin.... LocalBitcoins.com is very user-friendly now for bank transfers. You don't have to live close to trade when in the same currency area. Electrum client is awesome. Try it. And please stop sending bitcoins to sites run by security newbies, or don't complain when you lose everything.
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July 05, 2012, 05:52:15 AM |
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Is it known how much money is bet on satoshidice per day?
It is all in the blockchain, but I only know of snapshots, not time series data. Looking at snapshots from two different times this week, looks to be about 2K BTC per-day, recently. (about $12K USD per day). There were many days before the increase in the house edge where there was a much higher churn. - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1009467#msg1009467
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July 05, 2012, 05:06:46 PM |
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I made a new page to make some of the progressive stuff clearer and to provide some fancy QC codes for making bets from mobile devices easier: http://satoshidice.com/progressive-detail.php?v=1I might do something for the simple bets as well where a user provides a bet, how much they want to wager (or how much they want to potentially win) and it makes a page showing the address, qr code and exact odds and payouts. Nothing magical there, just doing some math for people and making it more clear for confused players.
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July 05, 2012, 09:12:59 PM |
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Will be a SatoshiDice son powered by Litecoin? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) No, I don't support the Litecoin project, personally. However, I've offered to sell a clone of SatoshiDice to a litecoin supporter who contacted me, but I think my asking price was too high ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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July 06, 2012, 03:57:01 AM |
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Does anyone know anything about these addresses? 1BTCDicebUVG6Bv4NrWymiENvUyk8NF52N 1BTCDicexyM43Sivo83gMsRqARK6LPm895 1BTCDiceMN9eP1CjKbFFfQcPVj7KeAV1kA I see them in transactions which also have an output worth 0.0054321, which is a value SatoshiDice uses to set the payment address. I also see a payment to one of these addresses from 1FLo9g9AZ7Up1tgLv4xyx8xvAKiGGhAi6p, which I think is one of the addresses associated with the most recent Bitcoinica theft. Are these addresses from a SatoshiDice clone? Or SatshiDice testing addresses? http://blockchain.info/address/1BTCDiceMN9eP1CjKbFFfQcPVj7KeAV1kA : ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fi4CQG.png&t=665&c=FyuOovL4uYb7jQ)
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July 06, 2012, 04:06:22 AM |
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Does anyone know anything about these addresses? 1BTCDicebUVG6Bv4NrWymiENvUyk8NF52N 1BTCDicexyM43Sivo83gMsRqARK6LPm895 1BTCDiceMN9eP1CjKbFFfQcPVj7KeAV1kA I see them in transactions which also have an output worth 0.0054321, which is a value SatoshiDice uses to set the payment address. I also see a payment to one of these addresses from 1FLo9g9AZ7Up1tgLv4xyx8xvAKiGGhAi6p, which I think is one of the addresses associated with the most recent Bitcoinica theft. Are these addresses from a SatoshiDice clone? Or SatshiDice testing addresses? http://blockchain.info/address/1BTCDiceMN9eP1CjKbFFfQcPVj7KeAV1kA : ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fi4CQG.png&t=665&c=FyuOovL4uYb7jQ) They are not any of ours. My guess is they are created by someone for interacting with satoshidice. The "BTC" seems a little silly. I mean, it is a bitcoin address, that it is for bitcoins seems a little redundant.
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July 06, 2012, 04:34:23 AM |
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It turns out the bitcoinica coins have been played on satoshidice recently too: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/5484758 shows the bitcoinica haul being split up into amounts of 2600. The 3rd output, http://blockchain.info/tx-index/5489226, is the "expect mass leak soon" message, ascii encoded in a transaction's values. The 2nd output, http://blockchain.info/tx-index/7915029, has lots of inputs from 1FLo9g9AZ7Up1tgLv4xyx8xvAKiGGhAi6p, which was used recently for a series of high-stake satoshidice bets: http://www.satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=1FLo9g9AZ7Up1tgLv4xyx8xvAKiGGhAi6p31 bets. Total stake: 303 BTC Total return: 299.51723327 BTC A loss of 1.15%.
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July 06, 2012, 08:32:46 AM |
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Is it known how much money is bet on satoshidice per day?
I pulled the following from the blockchain. That's a total of 221k BTC bet on satoshidice so far, and currently around 10 or 15k BTC per week is being bet: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FT0H9O.png&t=665&c=-jn602QWB13XJA)
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July 06, 2012, 08:04:14 PM |
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Will be a SatoshiDice son powered by Litecoin? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) No, I don't support the Litecoin project, personally. However, I've offered to sell a clone of SatoshiDice to a litecoin supporter who contacted me, but I think my asking price was too high ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) How much? PM-me...
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Peter Todd
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July 07, 2012, 06:22:00 AM |
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That 1FLo9g9AZ7Up1tgLv4xyx8xvAKiGGhAi6p address is very strange. It's been receiving huge numbers of small integer-valued BTC transactions from a large number of addresses, with the transactions spaced seconds apart. Some sort of mixing network maybe? It'd have to be one owned by a direct recipient of bitcoinica funds, as shown by transaction http://blockchain.info/tx-index/7915029/95dea21bca1a0b337f9f8cbdfb56c5d25546ea5a9e43d9dd96f9e3e9eac57018 Also, if you look at the dendogram for that transaction, you see that the final amount is being split into large numbers of 100-300BTC payments, which in turn are getting split up in all sorts of ways. Possibly this is because they're being funneled through a wallet service like instawallet; the values after that point are all over the place, like more typical transactions.
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dooglus
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July 08, 2012, 06:48:03 AM |
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SatoshiDice has been a lot better in recent days at not missing any incoming transactions - that's why I've stopped posting lists of unprocessed transaction IDs. However... http://blockchain.info/tx-index/11502701/c9cca3a9e5a1494cee2c87c950c1283f83d091920cb6e6749b3e5930d8d69ac2 hasn't yet been processed, and is 12 hours old. It's the only one that has been missed for days now. I wonder what's special about it (other than that it's a bet from DeepBit's address). Maybe the fact that the 'VayNert' address has over 353165 transactions on it triggered a bug in SatoshiDice?
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