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February 22, 2015, 06:40:01 PM
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I'm a tech idiot - can someone who has been here a while tell me whether these messages are credible RE: their authenticity? 

I haven't been here long but according to what I have read as long as the email header information is intact (which not all of them are) then the email authenticity can be verified.



RAW email -> http://pastebin.com/XfFy1dfU

Feel free to verify authenticity -> http://9vx.org/~dho/dkim_validate.php


Here is what I got when I ran the email from pastebin through the DKIM verifier:



Tried several different ways and got the same result every time. I am sure it is possible I did not do it correctly though, perhaps someone else can try?

All of my posts are simply statements of my own personal opinions based on available information and pondering what might be possible considering human nature, with the goal of finding truth and preventing fraud. Please look at all of the facts and theories and put your thinking cap on to draw your own conclusions. If you feel that I have made a false statement or have been unnecessarily derogatory, I encourage you to please point it out, and if proven correct and/or reasonable I will remedy it. ~ Paul Revere
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February 22, 2015, 06:43:59 PM
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I'm a tech idiot - can someone who has been here a while tell me whether these messages are credible RE: their authenticity?  

Disclaimer: Everything I know about DKIM I learned within the last few days.

Essentially, you can establish a public cryptographic key on your DNS record (DNS is what maps a domain name to an IP address) so that anyone can look that up. You then use a private key and the public key, to "sign" the email. (In this case, I think google did that for them.) Anyone who wants to validate the email can use the public key (which they get from the DNS server) and the signature to check the signature. The message has to be exactly byte-for-byte identical to the one that was signed in order for the validation to pass.

Bottom line, it's a strong reason to think the emails are legit and untampered. The ones with DKIM signatures anyway, not all of them had that. I only validated a couple of them, and only at the validator that gntbs linked.

EDIT: I just tried a couple of the most recent ones and they didn't work. Here's one that does:
http://pastebin.com/RuK4AVhc
I don't know enough about it to figure out what's wrong with the ones that don't pass.

@gawneedstobestopped -- how about just making a zip file of all the emails you've got?
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February 22, 2015, 06:49:52 PM
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Has none of you's here a life,do you just sit on a message board all day praising each other and talking shit

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February 22, 2015, 06:53:23 PM
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Has none of you's here a life,do you just sit on a message board all day praising each other and talking shit

lawyers company


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February 22, 2015, 06:58:44 PM
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Has none of you's here a life,do you just sit on a message board all day praising each other and talking shit

lawyers company



HAHA COME ON YOU GUYS BUY MORE XPY AND FILL THE COFFERS UP

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February 22, 2015, 06:59:03 PM
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Has none of you's here a life,do you just sit on a message board all day praising each other and talking shit
Do you know about smart phones with internet access?
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February 22, 2015, 07:03:45 PM
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I think coinmaster222 may be British,  he called us "Numpties" A few pages back.   There is no way an American would use that as a derogatory term in my view.  That is up there with "Bollocks" for Britishness.
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Last edit: February 22, 2015, 08:05:04 PM by kken01
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https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/block.dws?177.htm
block that has the premine + 48.02 given to P9FzUwfheXWWnZ2kWHwavtDyiSsrisuVkA il just call it Joe0 from now on and dust to gaw miner addresses

Joe0 starts getting filled with more 48.02 every few mins or so (~6.9k total). then it starts to spew out 48.02 again to different addresses (in the picture its the outer 1-2 rows)

except there is 1 address that it likes more than others  Grin
there are 2x transactions to the same address that are 96.04 (divide it by 2 and you get 48.02) which is why i looked at it. there was 288 move but it was part of a large payout to multiple addresses with same timestamp so ive ignored it for now

Joe0 will proceed to transfer its xpy but the transmit pattern is pretty funny. 2 greens are the 96.04 i said earlier. that end address had the most traffic gone trough it ~1.8k total ( PUdhd19JUiYkWHXtrPUfYtKqxH3ToQXAhh , outer green dot) out of all the adds in the pic

Joe0 is the green dot in the middle
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February 22, 2015, 07:32:49 PM
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I think coinmaster222 may be British,  he called us "Numpties" A few pages back.   There is no way an American would use that as a derogatory term in my view.  That is up there with "Bollocks" for Britishness.

Urban dictionary says Scottish, which makes it even funnier.


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February 22, 2015, 07:37:42 PM
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Perhaps it is the 15 year old moderator on HT that has been getting his panties in a bind about that darned nasty truth being exposed about this obvious scam? He obviously follows along here, so there is no doubt that he knows for sure he is participating in a scam.

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February 22, 2015, 07:40:49 PM
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classic.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/32385/paycoin-wallet-syncing-is-pain-in-the-ass-keeps-freezing-up

advice from VictorVargas to download blockchain from 3rd party sites to get around wallet software fuckup
clearly shows they dont have even basic programmers anymore

edit:
yes poopcoin is trying for mainstream adoption  Grin
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February 22, 2015, 07:47:37 PM
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Numpties is definitely a Scottish word

To keep this on topic

Josh is an eejit

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February 22, 2015, 07:54:56 PM
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Sorry guys your miles out!!! to give you a clue its 11pm here while I count my xpy sales today

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February 22, 2015, 07:59:43 PM
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man someone posted that they are willing to rent http://villaorobianca.com/ for xpy

altho on the mainpage "visa, amex, mastercard"
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February 22, 2015, 08:29:46 PM
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I'm an investor and I think 90% of the people here are in crypto to invest and make money.  1% are true virgin tech driven altruistic Satoshi believers and 9% have no idea what they're doing in crypto but they know one thing, they're losing their asses on every trade they make and they're sick of it.  haha!

So here is my question: Garza is rich so if he scammed everyone with his $20 price floor on XPY [and already made millions] then why is he still here?  Why is he showing up at major Bitcoin events and putting up with all this shit from everyone?

Why?  It makes no sense.

So I'm betting that at the current price of $.75 (.002999 BTC), XPY is a STEAL.  I think the price will bottom at $.50 on more panic selling but it's a SCREAMING buy at this price and anything lower.

There is definitely big RISK here - maybe garza will fail to deliver on any of his promises but to me it makes more logical sense that he's got a plan and we will soon get HUGE news and you can make 10-40 fold from here.

Given the MASSIVE potential I think the risk here is small and it's ironic but the only reason I am buying XPY here is because of GARZA.  

GARZA has the money and connections to turn XPY into a $20-$50 coin in a single week.  That's worth betting on.

Don't bet what you can't lose, guys.

Good luck!


I would link to the thread but "Vlad" has already locked it Garza style...



So... I guess a complete 180 on "Vlad" from:

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"If Josh Garza and GAWminers succeed it will set a dangerous precedent for all crypto-coins, opening the floodgates for stealing and destroying the hard work of many crypto-developers."

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"Given the MASSIVE potential I think the risk here is small and it's ironic but the only reason I am buying XPY here is because of GARZA."

Wouldn't have anything to do with:

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"This issue has been resolved with Josh Garza having the legal rights to the PayCoin name and brand!"

Now would it???

This space not for rent...
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February 22, 2015, 08:31:00 PM
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Hey, while your scraping emails, rather then ignore it...take a moment to validate the connection between a Mike Johnson

Change the record asswipe.  Nobody gives a fuck

Hey Josh (AntiTroll), while we're scraping emails, why don't you elaborate on this relationship between you and Rishab?

Josh tells Rishab,
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I would buy as many as you can.

What my brother did not tell you,  is that the new miner we will start selling,  requires a HashCoin to work. I am canceling round three.

So it means they can only get Hashcoins from large holders,  like you Smiley you guys will have the majority supply and will be able to control the price.

http://pastebin.com/mP4gP4ht


I'm willing to bet I have enough evidence against you to outlast your 'misdirection' attempts, but please, challenge me Smiley

I'm a tech idiot - can someone who has been here a while tell me whether these messages are credible RE: their authenticity?  

To each their own... but most of what I have read over the previous 2-3 weeks is total hearsay (and likely nonsense) in my opinion. Anyone can create emails with headers that pass a homebrewed looking verification engine.

AGAIN, if anyone has anything notable/actionable on Garza and/or any of the other principles, forward it to the proper authorities. Posting it here serves no real purpose unless YOU are a party to the email/PM/chat being referenced and you are willing to testify to that fact. Also, to those who have contacted and read me the riot act for not believing them, with all due respect, too bad. I know what I know and have shared most of what I have regarding the matter. Now, it is time to let the powers that be do their job.

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February 22, 2015, 08:37:59 PM
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I'm an investor and I think 90% of the people here are in crypto to invest and make money.  1% are true virgin tech driven altruistic Satoshi believers and 9% have no idea what they're doing in crypto but they know one thing, they're losing their asses on every trade they make and they're sick of it.  haha!

So here is my question: Garza is rich so if he scammed everyone with his $20 price floor on XPY [and already made millions] then why is he still here?  Why is he showing up at major Bitcoin events and putting up with all this shit from everyone?

Why?  It makes no sense.

So I'm betting that at the current price of $.75 (.002999 BTC), XPY is a STEAL.  I think the price will bottom at $.50 on more panic selling but it's a SCREAMING buy at this price and anything lower.

There is definitely big RISK here - maybe garza will fail to deliver on any of his promises but to me it makes more logical sense that he's got a plan and we will soon get HUGE news and you can make 10-40 fold from here.

Given the MASSIVE potential I think the risk here is small and it's ironic but the only reason I am buying XPY here is because of GARZA.  

GARZA has the money and connections to turn XPY into a $20-$50 coin in a single week.  That's worth betting on.

Don't bet what you can't lose, guys.

Good luck!


I would link to the thread but "Vlad" has already locked it Garza style...



So... I guess a complete 180 on "Vlad" from:

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"If Josh Garza and GAWminers succeed it will set a dangerous precedent for all crypto-coins, opening the floodgates for stealing and destroying the hard work of many crypto-developers."

to
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"Given the MASSIVE potential I think the risk here is small and it's ironic but the only reason I am buying XPY here is because of GARZA."

Wouldn't have anything to do with:

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"This issue has been resolved with Josh Garza having the legal rights to the PayCoin name and brand!"

Now would it???

Nice catch vancefox.  Clearly Vlad has a dog in this fight.

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February 22, 2015, 08:59:53 PM
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To each their own... but most of what I have read over the previous 2-3 weeks is total hearsay (and likely nonsense) in my opinion. Anyone can create emails with headers that pass a homebrewed looking verification engine.

I suppose it's possible that gawneedstobestopped has some connection with this Devon O'Dell (http://9vx.org/~dho/) and put up a validator that validates DKIM emails properly (I tried a random email on it) **EXCEPT** when it gets one of a set of fake emails created by gntbs in which case it pretends to validate the fake email, but only if the fake email is unaltered. Not very likely, but not absolutely impossible.
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February 22, 2015, 09:00:52 PM
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Nice catch vancefox.  Clearly Vlad has a dog in this fight.

When you're incompetent it's very difficult to pull a confidence scam...

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February 22, 2015, 09:44:09 PM
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To each their own... but most of what I have read over the previous 2-3 weeks is total hearsay (and likely nonsense) in my opinion. Anyone can create emails with headers that pass a homebrewed looking verification engine.

AGAIN, if anyone has anything notable/actionable on Garza and/or any of the other principles, forward it to the proper authorities. Posting it here serves no real purpose unless YOU are a party to the email/PM/chat being referenced and you are willing to testify to that fact. Also, to those who have contacted and read me the riot act for not believing them, with all due respect, too bad. I know what I know and have shared most of what I have regarding the matter. Now, it is time to let the powers that be do their job.

Scott-

I understand your point but considering the sheer volume of email data that has been leaked you would have to be one sad fuck to make up so much disinformation.  There is page after page after page of emails.
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