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October 04, 2016, 03:46:48 AM
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Looks like it's picking up some!

If only more would realize how awesome it's going to be to potentially cold stake your coins on an exchange while you are waiting for your orders to get hit!

Volume will pick up, there is no question. Especially because we keep adding features.
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October 04, 2016, 09:59:00 AM
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we need some of the well known crypto online news sites to start picking us up.

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October 04, 2016, 11:24:47 AM
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we need some of the well known crypto online news sites to start picking us up.

I think David mentioned that after this next update, he's going to start pushing out some articles and interviews.
Should be perfect timing. We should have the fork from POS 2.0 to 3.0 finished, cold staking (potentially on exchanges as well), and I believe the general settings feature (in the drop down menu of the settings tab of client) will be completed as well.

Getting warmer!! Not much longer before this baby blasts off!
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October 04, 2016, 11:53:48 AM
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98% of people in the crypto world dont know about Bitbay and about its decentralised market and pegging. When people start to see what it does it will rocket to a top 15 coin for sure!

I like to keep myself in the know about all coins & their dev world and projects and see Bitbay as a must for any portfolio at the moment.

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October 04, 2016, 12:22:24 PM
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98% of people in the crypto world dont know about Bitbay and about its decentralised market and pegging. When people start to see what it does it will rocket to a top 15 coin for sure!

I like to keep myself in the know about all coins & their dev world and projects and see Bitbay as a must for any portfolio at the moment.

Old hype is past, don't dream any more.  Wink  Bitbay is dead, dev raised 2500 btc for fun, house, car
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October 04, 2016, 12:45:55 PM
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98% of people in the crypto world dont know about Bitbay and about its decentralised market and pegging. When people start to see what it does it will rocket to a top 15 coin for sure!

I like to keep myself in the know about all coins & their dev world and projects and see Bitbay as a must for any portfolio at the moment.

Old hype is past, don't dream any more.  Wink  Bitbay is dead, dev raised 2500 btc for fun, house, car

whoever is posting random nonsense and deceptive and stupid comments like this will just get their comments removed.
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October 04, 2016, 12:46:21 PM
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98% of people in the crypto world dont know about Bitbay and about its decentralised market and pegging. When people start to see what it does it will rocket to a top 15 coin for sure!

I like to keep myself in the know about all coins & their dev world and projects and see Bitbay as a must for any portfolio at the moment.

Old hype is past, don't dream any more.  Wink  Bitbay is dead, dev raised 2500 btc for fun, house, car


Get a life would ya! We are WAY past all that crap and Bay is doing well. Also, your information is incorrect. If you want to know what really happened, then do a little research, or, is that too much trouble?

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October 04, 2016, 01:03:03 PM
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98% of people in the crypto world dont know about Bitbay and about its decentralised market and pegging. When people start to see what it does it will rocket to a top 15 coin for sure!

I like to keep myself in the know about all coins & their dev world and projects and see Bitbay as a must for any portfolio at the moment.

Old hype is past, don't dream any more.  Wink  Bitbay is dead, dev raised 2500 btc for fun, house, car

sock puppets everywhere is a good sign... post with your real account or dont post.

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October 05, 2016, 07:28:33 AM
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Is there a github repo or the project is not open source?
https://github.com/bitbayteam/bitbay is obsolete.
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October 05, 2016, 10:19:32 AM
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Is there a github repo or the project is not open source?
https://github.com/bitbayteam/bitbay is obsolete.

https://github.com/oxidian/BitBay

https://github.com/dzimbeck/BitBay
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October 05, 2016, 05:58:10 PM
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As of 10/5/2016 I see Bay has made it into the Top 100 on www.coinmarketcap.com:

99   BitBay $687,197   $0.000706   1,005,762,065 BAY *   $1,938   +9.38%

Nice...

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October 05, 2016, 09:58:42 PM
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As of 10/5/2016 I see Bay has made it into the Top 100 on www.coinmarketcap.com:

99   BitBay $687,197   $0.000706   1,005,762,065 BAY *   $1,938   +9.38%

Nice...

It's been in the top 100 bobby around 96 for about 5 months now

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October 06, 2016, 12:51:36 AM
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As of 10/5/2016 I see Bay has made it into the Top 100 on www.coinmarketcap.com:

99   BitBay $687,197   $0.000706   1,005,762,065 BAY *   $1,938   +9.38%

Nice...

It's been in the top 100 bobby around 96 for about 5 months now

Yeah and those swings are a bullish sign. It favors traders. The floor is well established
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October 06, 2016, 12:55:41 AM
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Is there a github repo or the project is not open source?
https://github.com/bitbayteam/bitbay is obsolete.

The source of the markets client is at www.davtonia.com/BitHalo/HaloOBF.zip

That source gives building instructions for all Halo builds including Bitbay. It's not on github yet since I'm not encouraging cloners. It's source can be audited of course at that link. Plus, it's 3 years of stability without any hacks... of course there was bugs 3 years ago but those have all been fixed.

So this is the most stable client ever release and Mac and Linux also appear extremely stable.
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October 06, 2016, 01:58:51 AM
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As of 10/5/2016 I see Bay has made it into the Top 100 on www.coinmarketcap.com:

99   BitBay $687,197   $0.000706   1,005,762,065 BAY *   $1,938   +9.38%

Nice...

It's been in the top 100 bobby around 96 for about 5 months now

Well that's even better now isn't it?

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October 06, 2016, 10:34:41 AM
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https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-loses-darknet-market-in-apparent-exit-scam

add this to the reason why we need a peg.
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October 06, 2016, 11:28:33 AM
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Where is the working example in crypto, where a peg has, and continues to, work as intended?
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The writer jumped the gun big time, looks like it was a false alarm. Alpha is back online, claims is was a software update that caused the issue.




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October 06, 2016, 10:47:31 PM
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Where is the working example in crypto, where a peg has, and continues to, work as intended?

NuBits had a peg but it temporarily broke and there was a scandal on ccdek or whatever the exchange was called.

NuBits uses custodial wallets and is probably front running.

Then there is BitUSD. They use collateral in BTS. It's interesting but relies on BitShares staying alive and costs alot of BitShares to put/call. It works for now. It is a low market cap at 100k

Then there is Tether. So far it works but it depends entirely on their company backing the coin.

None of those pegs are scalable, none of them can roll in price. They aren't attractive to speculators either.

BitUSD is probably the most promising since Tether can fall at any minute. But if BitShares falls so does BitUSD.

In Bitbay even if Bitcoin falls, Bitbay survives! It's decentralized and no backers or custodians required. However out peg can fluctuate in price. Munti can elaborate on economic pegs since that's his area of expertise.
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October 06, 2016, 11:43:06 PM
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Where is the working example in crypto, where a peg has, and continues to, work as intended?

That's just it - there isn't a safe one that I know of!

BitBay's approach will be different obviously. It's not going to be pegged to anything, e.g., bitcoin, gold, USD, etc.
It's going to be completely independent; simply based on supply and demand.
This can make for a day trader's 'wet dream'.

I wish I knew more about it myself, but take for example all of the possibilities in regards to a Bay to BTC market pair.

If a trader see's signs of a big price drop coming to BTC, rather than sell out his BTC to USD, he could accumulate BitBay instead over the course of a few days. There would be more than one way to do this. He could potentially buy them  straight from the exchanges, straight off the BitBay marketplace (without a middleman), or even a potential 'futures' contract.
If the traders hunch is correct and BTC starts to drop over the course of a few days, then others will be scrambling to hedge their investment capital. This would create an increase in demand to Bay from traders trying to hedge their investment capital would naturally cause Bay to increase in value.

Now this trader has multiple options...
  • He could sell his bag, which would be 100% liquid at the time (except in regards to futures contracts).
  • Or he could hold, waiting for the right moment to sell potentially before the UVP protocol implements a liquid to frozen coin ratio adjustment. In this example, the increase in demand for BitBay would cause the ratio to increase liquidity of other people's wallets. So the traders best option might be to time this event and sell immediately before it happens to maximize profit on the market's demand. Then he could still earn even more profit by predicting the price support level after the coin get's flooded with new liquidity and buy up more Bay in hopes that the hedgers are not done yet with their exodus, etc, etc, etc.
  • Or he could simply wait until he see's the price of BTC to hit a support level and then sell his bay at a premium before the masses try to follow suit. This guessing game is going to be quite intriguing to say the least! Yet if you miss out on the swings of peaks and valleys you still have reassurance that this thing will (long term)continually increase in value - so the only losers are the impatient traders that sell at a loss rather than hold through another cycle.
 

All of this can be taking place with the trader having assurance that the peg will protect his capital from a potential 'back-stabbing' whale dump that currently seems to plague so many coins with their >insertcoin</BTC market pair relationship, because in BitBay, if the market gets hit with a large seller all at once, your coins would freeze proportionally to your existing quantity. This helps the price balance out without any major FOMO panic sells.

BitBay will give investors a tool to increase profit potential compared to the option of hedging back to the USD. Sure there is no leverage advantage, but that makes it even more attractive to conservative money. And who knows... with Double Deposit Escrow, I'm sure there is a way to create leverage. Wink

The more people see the system as a safe investment, the more they will want it, increasing demand and price in a healthy, organic trend. This will excite merchants and naturally create a positive, organic domino effect.

For those that can't stand the idea of a mandatory network adjustment to their wallets liquid to frozen coin ratio, they will still have options to trade - that's where the futures contracts come into play. Lips sealed

Again, I wish I knew more about all the goodies in store for the rolling peg (UVP - User Value Protection) protocol.
We will just have to wait a little bit longer before it's finally implemented.
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