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June 12, 2018, 05:25:29 AM
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My friend said that capitalization of BitBay could be compared to capitalization of some bakeshop. Maybe it sounds good for new investors, but why is it happening? Even vision and hope could worth more, not to say about brilliant ready product!

Its very simple bay is a brilliant product that never gets in on the hype.

Other products are vapor but yet manage to whip the fools into believe their hype

This is the one area we need to vastly improve on for the sake of bitbay and we can save some investors losing their btc on the other trash out there

We need to list Bay on other exchanges as well, to improve liquidity and trading volumes. I have not followed any discussion on this recently, but has there been a move to list it on Binance? That can be one step which can introduce it to a lot of new investors.


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June 12, 2018, 01:01:14 PM
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My friend said that capitalization of BitBay could be compared to capitalization of some bakeshop. Maybe it sounds good for new investors, but why is it happening? Even vision and hope could worth more, not to say about brilliant ready product!

Its very simple bay is a brilliant product that never gets in on the hype.

Other products are vapor but yet manage to whip the fools into believe their hype

This is the one area we need to vastly improve on for the sake of bitbay and we can save some investors losing their btc on the other trash out there

We need to list Bay on other exchanges as well, to improve liquidity and trading volumes. I have not followed any discussion on this recently, but has there been a move to list it on Binance? That can be one step which can introduce it to a lot of new investors.

to me bittrex and upbit is good enough....... binance is fake volume and no way as large as they make out

the listing fee there is quite insane too some have said 250k USD

I have seen coins hit huge caps on small shit exchanges

coinbase though would be nice Smiley

You want investment hype - tps is the current hype.... we've had many hypes before: anon, masternodes, smart contracts etc etc  
You have to have the right hype at the right time

Is ada or eos better than bitbay? is dpos really better than pos3  - who knows ... but what matters is what people believe at the time
50m project or 5BN project. Of course icos with real narrow distribution can have huge fake caps but those are all i hear ppl talking about since they are hyping new mechanisms that can push high tps.... never mind the centralisation to a certain degree

eth's version of pos looks interesting too

to me there is not any point flipping the peg on at 50M cap it should be 500M cap minimum.

If we had a solid design for a new hype train consensus mechanism we as a community could easily organise a huge hype train for bitbay on here. Anyway aside from the tps comparisons on the main board bitbay still has more useful features than 99% of other projects and is still quite unknown on this board to most of the noobs

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June 13, 2018, 05:28:42 AM
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My friend said that capitalization of BitBay could be compared to capitalization of some bakeshop. Maybe it sounds good for new investors, but why is it happening? Even vision and hope could worth more, not to say about brilliant ready product!

Its very simple bay is a brilliant product that never gets in on the hype.

Other products are vapor but yet manage to whip the fools into believe their hype

This is the one area we need to vastly improve on for the sake of bitbay and we can save some investors losing their btc on the other trash out there

We need to list Bay on other exchanges as well, to improve liquidity and trading volumes. I have not followed any discussion on this recently, but has there been a move to list it on Binance? That can be one step which can introduce it to a lot of new investors.

We tried but they are difficult to communicate with and I think expensive. Yet they list hundreds of shitcoins.

However there is another thing to consider. I'm almost done with the peg test client. So we should probably start thinking of exchanges that will actually work with it. Otherwise why pay for a listing we might lose a few months later? So we should be looking for exchanges willing to list us with the peg calculations from our API.
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June 13, 2018, 05:38:30 AM
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Is ada or eos better than bitbay? is dpos really better than pos3  - who knows ... but what matters is what people believe at the time
50m project or 5BN project. Of course icos with real narrow distribution can have huge fake caps but those are all i hear ppl talking about since they are hyping new mechanisms that can push high tps.... never mind the centralisation to a certain degree


The TPS hype like most hype trains are probably orchestrated with pumps from exchanges anyways who are probably in on it.

Even if it wasn't, DPOS is not better than POS3.

It has the drawback of not being able to see the genesis, no reputation system, the voting can be gamed and politicized via offering incentives, there is not enough nodes.

It's a great start for extremely large scalability and has proven that. But it needs to be not so rigid such as a limit of 101 delegates or X delegates. It needs to be where people upgrade their hardware, offer it to the network, prove they can handle the volume, etc. No voting required, just reputation, benchmark, and very well planned pruning techniques that leave almost no doubt of botnet or fraud. I've learned a thing or two from watching the rise of Larimer and it was obvious he wasn't gearing up for decentralization but commercialization. He chose a technique that would get him adoption by getting users regardless of how much decentralization was sacrificed. The strategy worked, I knew it would.

We have already taken a page from that, we are now looking to teach our team about web based markets. We think of simple systems that can be used on phones, we look at architecture that can scale the chain.

The peg database actually has to prune or else it will simply fail. The transactions for the peg are 100 times larger unless put into a liquidity pool per account after a certain number of blocks. If we had a million users it would be probably around 40 gigabytes for that and another 20 gigabytes to support 100k tx per 400 blocks (temporary not pruned storage). I'm building it to scale. Users can always rescan and verify that data again. But the blockchain itself can't currently be handled with pruning until a very major change to protocol happens. (to support high TPS). At BitBay we do things correctly.
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June 14, 2018, 12:20:31 PM
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Is ada or eos better than bitbay? is dpos really better than pos3  - who knows ... but what matters is what people believe at the time
50m project or 5BN project. Of course icos with real narrow distribution can have huge fake caps but those are all i hear ppl talking about since they are hyping new mechanisms that can push high tps.... never mind the centralisation to a certain degree


The TPS hype like most hype trains are probably orchestrated with pumps from exchanges anyways who are probably in on it.

Even if it wasn't, DPOS is not better than POS3.

It has the drawback of not being able to see the genesis, no reputation system, the voting can be gamed and politicized via offering incentives, there is not enough nodes.

It's a great start for extremely large scalability and has proven that. But it needs to be not so rigid such as a limit of 101 delegates or X delegates. It needs to be where people upgrade their hardware, offer it to the network, prove they can handle the volume, etc. No voting required, just reputation, benchmark, and very well planned pruning techniques that leave almost no doubt of botnet or fraud. I've learned a thing or two from watching the rise of Larimer and it was obvious he wasn't gearing up for decentralization but commercialization. He chose a technique that would get him adoption by getting users regardless of how much decentralization was sacrificed. The strategy worked, I knew it would.

We have already taken a page from that, we are now looking to teach our team about web based markets. We think of simple systems that can be used on phones, we look at architecture that can scale the chain.

The peg database actually has to prune or else it will simply fail. The transactions for the peg are 100 times larger unless put into a liquidity pool per account after a certain number of blocks. If we had a million users it would be probably around 40 gigabytes for that and another 20 gigabytes to support 100k tx per 400 blocks (temporary not pruned storage). I'm building it to scale. Users can always rescan and verify that data again. But the blockchain itself can't currently be handled with pruning until a very major change to protocol happens. (to support high TPS). At BitBay we do things correctly.

Thanks for this great answer david. I guess if all laymen investors could have the insight of skilled developers the top 50 would look quite different. It's a shame noobs are so easy to hoodwink with hype and manipulation.

I really hope bittrex and upbit will work with our new peg. Bittrex loves real innovation and they work with ignis which i think needs some special software to run too so they hopefully would be good with it.

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June 18, 2018, 12:55:03 PM
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Today we are releasing the first preview of the UI design for our upcoming Web Marketplace. We'll be releasing one video every day this week to highlight some of the features and we'll be posting them here as well as social media.

Here's the first one: new account creation

https://twitter.com/BitBayofficial/status/1008692036067840001



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BitBay Official Twitter: https://twitter.com/BitBayofficial
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June 18, 2018, 10:53:13 PM
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Today we are releasing the first preview of the UI design for our upcoming Web Marketplace. We'll be releasing one video every day this week to highlight some of the features and we'll be posting them here as well as social media.

Here's the first one: new account creation

https://twitter.com/BitBayofficial/status/1008692036067840001



Making short and to the point videos is great idea, both for marketing and guiding purposes.
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June 19, 2018, 08:49:47 AM
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Check out article on how to pay online anonymously in our decentralized marketplace:
https://blog.bitbay.market/how-to-pay-online-anonymously-c1e8a434b56b
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June 20, 2018, 11:13:03 AM
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https://twitter.com/BitBayofficial/status/1009024771546341376
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June 20, 2018, 07:16:39 PM
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Here’s a new Web Markeptlace UI teaser video for you all, this time showing the selling an item process...

https://twitter.com/bitbayofficial/status/1009395196017209344?s=21

We hope you like it Smiley

David Zimbeck Interview

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June 24, 2018, 05:32:10 PM
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Here’s a new Web Markeptlace UI teaser video for you all, this time showing the selling an item process...

https://twitter.com/bitbayofficial/status/1009395196017209344?s=21

We hope you like it Smiley

Awesome work being done on this now.

The market cap for this is now laughable


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June 25, 2018, 05:01:56 AM
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Here’s a new Web Markeptlace UI teaser video for you all, this time showing the selling an item process...

https://twitter.com/bitbayofficial/status/1009395196017209344?s=21

We hope you like it Smiley

Awesome work being done on this now.

The market cap for this is now laughable



Agreed, it honestly surprises me a little.

Regardless, I've done the major peg calculations and I'm finishing up the database part. Then I will test with a whitelist of addresses and after that do some of the changes in the GUI. Then I have to make something for the exchanges and QT to work with it.
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June 25, 2018, 11:19:37 PM
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Here’s a new Web Markeptlace UI teaser video for you all, this time showing the selling an item process...

https://twitter.com/bitbayofficial/status/1009395196017209344?s=21

We hope you like it Smiley

Awesome work being done on this now.

The market cap for this is now laughable



Agreed, it honestly surprises me a little.

Regardless, I've done the major peg calculations and I'm finishing up the database part. Then I will test with a whitelist of addresses and after that do some of the changes in the GUI. Then I have to make something for the exchanges and QT to work with it.

Mustn't grumble at a bargain though so I'm still stacking bays.

If the peg works as expected it will be impossible that the major news sites can ignore bitbay after this.


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July 01, 2018, 01:08:51 PM
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Whitepaper (July)
https://coindar.org/en/event/bitbay-bay-whitepaper-11146
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July 01, 2018, 03:27:33 PM
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What about Barter Template, API and Programmable Smart Contracts Release?
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What about Barter Template, API and Programmable Smart Contracts Release?

Building and uploading that today actually. They may test it for a day or so before official version change and perhaps to market that. Will ask the team. However yes, very soon.
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July 04, 2018, 12:12:46 PM
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nice bump for us today

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July 04, 2018, 03:49:08 PM
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RELEASE UPDATE: Exclusive interview with BitBay's lead developer David Zimbeck about the new API release.

David Zimbeck Interview: BitBay’s API

https://blog.bitbay.market/david-zimbeck-interview-bitbays-api-d980f04e0294

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July 10, 2018, 06:24:19 PM
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Dear David and team, please keep informing us! Tell us about the news and plans.
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July 10, 2018, 06:39:55 PM
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Dear David and team, please keep informing us! Tell us about the news and plans.

https://t.me/bitbayofficial
https://twitter.com/bitbayofficial

These are the best ways to let know about latest news and development progress. So many things happening in the official chat channel so come and join us there to become part of this discussion.
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