[ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official

[rizzlarolla]

So the last week the nokoin boys and girls have bought to this discussion,
Confusion, -  nokoin is innovative                  
Illusion,      -  nokoin is decentralized              
Delusion,   -  nokoin is better than bitcoin
That's a fail in my book.

Meanwhile over on nokoin forum (not much happening)
the bi-weekly update came a day late,(Monday) and as expected contained nothing except, in summary,-
" Here is a short update on what has been going on on our side...we are pushing forward with all the projects I detailed in my last update,"
"Our current estimation is that the NeuCoin cryptocurrency, MyNeuCoin and GetNeuCoin will launch between August 6th and August 13th."
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/pre-launch-updates/1268/17
ok, we now got some kinda launch date. 4 "user/investors" have responded (with praise, not questions) to the post, (plus a few mods) so not exactly over inspiring.

Also,
Btc2Dank4Free now has "the young one" after his name,
Dartious now has "the harsh guy"
Shoreditch Sandrine now has "the cute friendly admin"
M3ndi3 now has "happy go lucky"
Myhash now has "the games man"
http://forum.neucoin.org/about
I could think of a few suggestions for Mark and Dank!

while i'm looking, I checked daily "users"
19 listed (nokoin forum) users
6 mods/admin
6 zombie "straight zero's"
3 new today, unlikely to return (statistically)
4 "genuine" users
http://forum.neucoin.org/users?period=daily
nokoin still BS about active users. still giving different figures on different pages (see 2 links above)

[rizzlarolla]

NeuBuy, July 6
"Thanks for the update. Who are the game development partners?"

Mark, July 6
"We are working with a small specialist HTML5 game developer that is doing the games for us."
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/pre-launch-updates/1268/20

Is the "developer"  Myhash - the games man by chance? (notice how Mark never gives a comprehensive answer)
nokoin for the boys?

Oh, what happened to this game development contest m3ndi3?

Sandrine, May 8
we're working with a few partners on releasing a game design contest. The idea is to gather ideas around games that would integrate NeuCoin as an in-game token. They will be voted on by the community here and on Facebook, the winners of the contest will win a prize in NeuCoin. It will be released in a few weeks, stay tuned for more info!
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/neucoin-in-gaming-and-as-micro-payment-in-apps/915/20

Mark, May 17
Also, here's a headsup:
In the next couple of weeks we will be starting a major community project around designing NeuCoin games.Stay tuned for further details.
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/what-kind-of-start-ups-will-the-neu-growth-foundation-want-and-support-to-help-with-the-networks-growth/633/4

gurkin, May 17 (pre ban reply to this BS)
here i go again.
input from the team- read the white paper? yawn, give us something to work with please.
had this headsup a few weeks ago, now its still weeks away?


More BS from the team, just playing to the crowd.

[rizzlarolla]

won't be long until there's a final flurry of shill posts followed by Sandrine deciding to lock this thread.
The ship is sinking fast.

Good call, Jonald.

nocoin, priced at $0.01, is now at 20% loss to btc.

Fairest thing nokoin could do is return btc.
No launch.

No support on nokoin forum, facebook, here, anywhere.
Nokoin cannot work IMO.
Please don't launch a coin that will not work, that is not secure, not easy to use.
That is not what was promised?

[rizzlarolla]

won't be long until there's a final flurry of shill posts followed by Sandrine deciding to lock this thread.
The ship is sinking fast.

Good call, Jonald.

nocoin, priced at $0.01, is now at 20% loss to btc.

Fairest thing nokoin could do is return btc.
No launch.

No support on nokoin forum, facebook, here, anywhere.
Nokoin cannot work IMO.
Please don't launch a coin that will not work, that is not secure, not easy to use.
That is not what was promised?

From nokoin forum, (40btc purchaser)

http://forum.neucoin.org/t/how-about-a-weekly-update-by-dev-as-far-as-the-progress-being-made/1245/40
primevalsoup
14m
Sandrine

Hi Sandrine,

Thanks for the reply. I've seen the updates but quite frankly was expecting something more meaningful. Merely stating that "we are working with a specialist HTML 5 game developer" hardly constitutes giving the community a "glimpse" of the games that are coming. Mentioning that that you are working on an online wallet app, proof of stake mining service, is simply stating the obvious and provides no new information (why wouldn't you be working on these???).

Anyway, it's clear to me that no matter how much I complain, I'm not going to get much in the way of meaningful information from the Neucoin team and since I'm already invested there is not much I can do except hope for either a successful launch or smooth refund of BTC accompanied by high BTC price....

[rizzlarolla]

won't be long until there's a final flurry of shill posts followed by Sandrine deciding to lock this thread.
The ship is sinking fast.

Good call, Jonald.

nocoin, priced at $0.01, is now at 20% loss to btc.

Fairest thing nokoin could do is return btc.
No launch.

No support on nokoin forum, facebook, here, anywhere.
Nokoin cannot work IMO.
Please don't launch a coin that will not work, that is not secure, not easy to use.
That is not what was promised?

From nokoin forum, (40btc purchaser)

http://forum.neucoin.org/t/how-about-a-weekly-update-by-dev-as-far-as-the-progress-being-made/1245/40
primevalsoup
14m
Sandrine

Hi Sandrine,

Thanks for the reply. I've seen the updates but quite frankly was expecting something more meaningful. Merely stating that "we are working with a specialist HTML 5 game developer" hardly constitutes giving the community a "glimpse" of the games that are coming. Mentioning that that you are working on an online wallet app, proof of stake mining service, is simply stating the obvious and provides no new information (why wouldn't you be working on these???).

Anyway, it's clear to me that no matter how much I complain, I'm not going to get much in the way of meaningful information from the Neucoin team and since I'm already invested there is not much I can do except hope for either a successful launch or smooth refund of BTC accompanied by high BTC price....

M3ndi3, Dart and others,

Time is running out to get refund.
Is this what you envisaged for nokoin?
With all that has transpired, do you feel, unfortunately, this is a fail?
Have you unwittingly aided in something you may wish now you did not?

It's not yet too late to call the whole thing off.

[jonald_fyookball]

i guess we just have to wait for the launch.
Between aug 6 and aug 13.  we wont have
to wait long.  waiting to be blown away 

I feel a lot of the "big names" attached to the launch
got snookered into supporting something that they
didn't have a clue about (altcoin pumping)...or
maybe they are as equally opportunistic as Mr Kaufman.

[m3ndi3]

won't be long until there's a final flurry of shill posts followed by Sandrine deciding to lock this thread.
The ship is sinking fast.

Good call, Jonald.

nocoin, priced at $0.01, is now at 20% loss to btc.

Fairest thing nokoin could do is return btc.
No launch.

No support on nokoin forum, facebook, here, anywhere.
Nokoin cannot work IMO.
Please don't launch a coin that will not work, that is not secure, not easy to use.
That is not what was promised?

From nokoin forum, (40btc purchaser)

http://forum.neucoin.org/t/how-about-a-weekly-update-by-dev-as-far-as-the-progress-being-made/1245/40
primevalsoup
14m
Sandrine

Hi Sandrine,

Thanks for the reply. I've seen the updates but quite frankly was expecting something more meaningful. Merely stating that "we are working with a specialist HTML 5 game developer" hardly constitutes giving the community a "glimpse" of the games that are coming. Mentioning that that you are working on an online wallet app, proof of stake mining service, is simply stating the obvious and provides no new information (why wouldn't you be working on these???).

Anyway, it's clear to me that no matter how much I complain, I'm not going to get much in the way of meaningful information from the Neucoin team and since I'm already invested there is not much I can do except hope for either a successful launch or smooth refund of BTC accompanied by high BTC price....

M3ndi3, Dart and others,

Time is running out to get refund.
Is this what you envisaged for nokoin?
With all that has transpired, do you feel, unfortunately, this is a fail?
Have you unwittingly aided in something you may wish now you did not?

It's not yet too late to call the whole thing off.

Sorry, I'm a bit confused with what you mean. Time is running out for a refund? I don't get it ,what refund and why is time running out? I have no problems at all with what is going on with NeuCoin right now, should I be worried? I'm perfectly happy with the progress and updates. I'm excited about NeuCoin, but I don't spend my every waking moment consumed by it (which it seems like you are). I spend some of my time on the forums, I'll moderate if needed, but otherwise I don't work for them, so I use most of my time on my own projects. Will I be happy if NeuCoin succeeds? Absolutely! Will I be sad if it doesn't, yes of course. But until the actual release of the coin and services, I'm just busy with my own businesses

[jonald_fyookball]

There is no refund.

some of were suggesting neucoin should offer one since so many negative things came out about newcon.

1. no technical innovation
2. completely centralized
3. huge premine and presale
4. rejection from larger altcoin community
5. lower stake rewards for small buyers
6. founder involved in spyware industry

and so the right thing to do would be to refund people's money....but it was only a suggestion that won't happen.

[rizzlarolla]

There is no refund.

some of were suggesting neucoin should offer one since so many negative things came out about newcon.

1. no technical innovation
2. completely centralized
3. huge premine and presale
4. rejection from larger altcoin community
5. lower stake rewards for small buyers
6. founder involved in spyware industry

and so the right thing to do would be to refund people's money....but it was only a suggestion that won't happen.

James mod just loves nocoin marketing speak.
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/what-exchanges-would-you-like-to-see-neucoin-listed-on-pros-cons/1219/44

James started another pointless thread, "What exchanges would you like to see nokoin listed on? Pros & cons?"
where nearly every exchange is suggested. (as if the nokoiners have a choice)

Then Drowning mark replies
"We're already reaching out to many of the exchanges mentioned here, and we hope to have at least a few of them available at, or soon after launch."

Now, to me, that is Marketing Speak meaning,
"We are trying to get on any exchange, no luck yet or I would tell you. Hopefully we will get on one by launch, but it's not looking to good."

But to James mod,
"This is great news, I can't wait to see where NeuCoin will be listed."

Blind faith, Pure shillism.

[scam confirmed]

No exchange. No pump. No dump.

[jonald_fyookball]

they will get an exchange.  there will be pumping.  there will be dumping.

[jonald_fyookball]

Interesting quote from primevalsoup just posted on neucoin forum:
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/how-about-a-weekly-update-by-dev-as-far-as-the-progress-being-made/1245/47

Hi Chris,

Sure. I can tell you couple of the things that I would EXPECT to see for a (serious) alt coin that is scheduled to launch in several weeks:

Announcement that a "test net" is ready and available for beta-testers to pound on. BTC, Ripple, NXT coin, Peercoin, etc all have testnets and AFAIK most, if not all, made these available to the general public to test well in advance of release(s).
Neucoin already has a bad track record with QA from the pre-sale. If you remember, faulty logic for a simple click-through page, made it through their internal QA and delayed the launch by hours. Releasing a new fork of an existing coin implementation (Peercoin) has to be several orders of magnitude more complex than implementing the pre-sale logic so I'm not sure how they expect to QA this with internal QA resources alone. Now if there already exists such an environment/beta-program, that's fantastic and exactly the type of meaningful pre-release info I would love to hear about.

Announcements that they have beta version of the wallet software ready that can be/are being tested (again not just with internal QA resources) against above mentioned tesnet.

Announcements that exchanges X Y and Z are in testing with Neucoin so we can be sure there will be a market and, more importantly, market price for Neucoin from the day of launch.

There are many other things (test/development metrics) they COULD be releasing that would give us come confidence that progress is being made but sadly they aren't. Is it arrogance, laziness, genuine lack of progress? I really have no idea but it is frustrating....

[Mayer Amschel]

This is still going on?

LOL, they are long gone people, snap out of it.

- Mayer Amschel

[LiQio]

^ probably not yet.

They will try everything possible to sell some of the 2.6 to 2.9 billion in their holdings first.

Let's see if they'll manage to produce a genesis block and which exchanges will assist the dump.


Just for shits and giggles:

[...] Put it this way: there are plenty NeuCoin blockchains that are not open to the public because they are just tests. When we are ready to go public, we'll generate the "real" one. Why not now? Because testing something with the actual keys to 3 billion coins would be reckless.
[...]

http://forum.neucoin.org/t/via-quote/784/2 from ophelie

Plenty of test-blockchains, yeah sure, dozens but no one can have a look at them  ... It makes sense to generate the "real" genesis block some day, right, given that you're really capable of producing one. But wait, what's that with the actual keys, I assume you speak of the public keys?! But then again why would it be reckless...

[Mayer Amschel]

Wow...

Epic fail.

[cryptonikus]

So, who wll be such a cool memeber of BTT to present constructive overview of current situation of Neucoin, for visitors of thread to see? 

[jonald_fyookball]

So, who wll be such a cool memeber of BTT to present constructive overview of current situation of Neucoin, for visitors of thread to see?  

I'll try to be objective:

Neucoin had a presale, claiming to have raised $1M USD
and says they will launch between Aug 6-Aug 13th.
According to their strategy roadmap, .1 Billion coins are presold out of
a total 3 billion premine, with the remaining coins going to foundations
to develop and market the coin.

Those that participated in the premine are excited about Neucoin's
strategy to aggressively market Neucoin with their corporate
connections, marketing experience, and integration with video
games and music platforms.

Others who didn't participate are very skeptical for a variety
of reasons including lack of technical innovation,
lack of transparency, premine/presale, high coin inflation, and shady history
of principals.

[Mayer Amschel]

So, who wll be such a cool memeber of BTT to present constructive overview of current situation of Neucoin, for visitors of thread to see? 

I'll try to be objective:

Neucoin had a presale, claiming to have raised $1M USD
and says they will launch between Aug 6-Aug 13th.
According to their strategy roadmap, .1 Billion coins are presold out of
a total 3 billion premine, with the remaining coins going to foundations
to develop and market the coin.

Those that participated in the premine are excited about Neucoin's
strategy to aggressively market Neucoin with their corporate
connections, marketing experience, and integration with video
games and music platforms.

Others who didn't participate are very skeptical for a variety
of reasons including lack of technical innovation,
lack of transparency, premine/presale, high coin inflation, and shady history
of principals.

Very well put, i guess we will wait another month.

[darteous]

They are a bit more tight lipped about the launch than expected. It is a high risk investment/high reward investment. And honestly, given the option I'd still buy a bit more.

Jonald's overview is fairly objective, though he forgot to mention the founders, angel investors, and early investors coins which won't be going to the foundation. And he didn't explain the coins plans at all. You should read the wiki for idea of how they will develop it.  http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/

What makes me so interested in this coin is it's distribution model and deals in place for usage before launch. I'd argue other than BTC, coins that have been released so far have been failures in that they haven't secured any market outside of the crypto community. This coin is doing things differently.

I'd suggest reading through the forum to make your own opinion about two of the coins team members Sandrine and Mark. Because it's really a matter of whether or not you trust the creators. If they are honest then this will likely become quite a valuable coin.

Dank was part of a company that used a questionable loophole in the past. But according to the courts the company wasn't doing anything illegal. I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. Look at the beginnings of many currencies, there's often some questionable happenings. Yes I do prefer everything be honest and fair but I do want someone business minded and smart enough to see opportunities, know when someone might be cheating them, and be successful, etc.

[jonald_fyookball]

I'd suggest reading through the forum to make your own opinion about two of the coins team members Sandrine and Mark. Because it's really a matter of whether or not you trust the creators. If they are honest then this will likely become quite a valuable coin.

can't really say I agree.  honesty, while important in many areas of life and business, is no indication of a good strategy or market forces.  I could invest in my brother's restaurant, and even though he is honest, he could easily fail.