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Author Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It  (Read 3918342 times)
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August 21, 2013, 04:45:26 PM
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Last month there was a financial balance sheet dated July 23rd.
Will August get one as well?

July 2013:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdEthNEpIWWxpcW90RFBQOFZ6aFlxT0E#gid=0

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August 21, 2013, 04:47:04 PM
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Bears make money, bulls make money, pigs get slaughtered.

Cut your damn losses before the whales start cashing out.

Seriously.

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August 21, 2013, 04:48:46 PM
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Bears make money, bulls make money, pigs get slaughtered.

Cut your damn losses before the whales start cashing out.

Seriously.

Did I just log on to Investorshub? LOL
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August 21, 2013, 04:49:41 PM
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Bears make money, bulls make money, pigs get slaughtered.

Cut your damn losses before the whales start cashing out.

Seriously.

Did I just log on to Investorshub? LOL

I've been prognosticating this for ages, at about this timeframe. Few listened. Here it is.

The huge drop was because USD-BTC is illiquid. The adjustment will be a continuing trend as sentiment shifts, not a vertical line.

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August 21, 2013, 04:57:28 PM
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Bears make money, bulls make money, pigs get slaughtered.

Cut your damn losses before the whales start cashing out.

Seriously.

Did I just log on to Investorshub? LOL

I've been prognosticating this for ages, at about this timeframe. Few listened. Here it is.

The huge drop was because USD-BTC is illiquid. The adjustment will be a continuing trend as sentiment shifts, not a vertical line.

HW sales competition is growing, mining difficult is rising.. I see a steady profits decline in the near future
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August 21, 2013, 05:02:58 PM
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Bears make money, bulls make money, pigs get slaughtered.

Cut your damn losses before the whales start cashing out.

Seriously.

Did I just log on to Investorshub? LOL

I've been prognosticating this for ages, at about this timeframe. Few listened. Here it is.

The huge drop was because USD-BTC is illiquid. The adjustment will be a continuing trend as sentiment shifts, not a vertical line.

You don't think USD-BTC will become more accessible in the future?
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August 21, 2013, 05:47:27 PM
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USD is illiquid relative to where it was a year ago, or even six months ago, true.  But not completely illiquid, and hard as it may be to believe, there are other major world currencies out there, and Germany's recent action comes to mind as a positive. Between today's div and changing market, I am not surprised at a drop.  The rising price of BTC may have people cashing out as well, even into relatively illiquid USD.  Fun times ahead, not for the faint of heart.  I picked some up in the mid-high 3s, but I also have some from back @ 0.69.

Sure I wish I had sold near the high - who doesn't?  But also wishing I hadn't just slept through the mid-2s dip.

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August 21, 2013, 06:00:30 PM
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Bears make money, bulls make money, pigs get slaughtered.

Cut your damn losses before the whales start cashing out.

Seriously.

Did I just log on to Investorshub? LOL

I've been prognosticating this for ages, at about this timeframe. Few listened. Here it is.

The huge drop was because USD-BTC is illiquid. The adjustment will be a continuing trend as sentiment shifts, not a vertical line.

I think that some of your posts are great Vycid.
But maybe it would be fair to mention that you are holding put options for ASICMINER, therefore you will lose if price will go up and you will gain if the price will fall (as you are preaching).
Am I wrong?
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August 21, 2013, 06:07:30 PM
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Vycid has been transparent about him profiting by a lower AsicMiner share price...
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August 21, 2013, 06:09:31 PM
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Vycid has been transparent about him profiting by a lower AsicMiner share price...

Agreed.  He didn't mention it in that post, but has mentioned it in many posts.

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August 21, 2013, 06:09:43 PM
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Imagine a company having to expand its operation by 80% each month! That's been the reality for ASICMiner the past month: http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/diff.txt

The difficulty has risen by an average of 25% per adjustment for the past month. That's 80% per month!

Its 94%. You cant simply summarize the percents. Though one diff adjustment now jumped out of the 30 day window it looks less. But im very sure it will be above 100% next diff update. It went 46% then 71% and now 94%. So the difficulty rise is not only rising exponentially, the prozentual rise is even rising exponential.

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August 21, 2013, 06:11:03 PM
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Imagine a company having to expand its operation by 80% each month! That's been the reality for ASICMiner the past month: http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/diff.txt

The difficulty has risen by an average of 25% per adjustment for the past month. That's 80% per month!

Its 94%. You cant simply summarize the percents. Though one diff adjustment now jumped out of the 30 day window it looks less. But im very sure it will be above 100% next diff update. It went 46% then 71% and now 94%. So the difficulty rise is not only rising exponentially, the prozentual rise is even rising exponential.

We need the next-gen chips
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August 21, 2013, 06:14:10 PM
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I've been prognosticating this for ages, at about this timeframe. Few listened. Here it is.

The huge drop was because USD-BTC is illiquid. The adjustment will be a continuing trend as sentiment shifts, not a vertical line.

right, we've never seen a recovery from levels like this before...  Roll Eyes

sell Vycid your cheap shares, he'll be glad to take them off your hands.

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August 21, 2013, 06:16:06 PM
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@canth
I'm loving the shakeup. I got back onboard at 3.7 - and after seeing everyone freak out about low divs or other IPOs, I am glad to see the weak hands leave the boat.
In the end, some play it speculatively, others invest.
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August 21, 2013, 06:22:43 PM
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Imagine a company having to expand its operation by 80% each month! That's been the reality for ASICMiner the past month: http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/diff.txt

The difficulty has risen by an average of 25% per adjustment for the past month. That's 80% per month!

Its 94%. You cant simply summarize the percents. Though one diff adjustment now jumped out of the 30 day window it looks less. But im very sure it will be above 100% next diff update. It went 46% then 71% and now 94%. So the difficulty rise is not only rising exponentially, the prozentual rise is even rising exponential.

We need the next-gen chips

It would be nice, but producing and mining with the current gen chips will still be profitable for a long time.  Hardware sales are just a great bonus.  I am loving this panic sell, I have greatly increased my position.  I just hope it remains at this price for the next few weeks so I can continue to load up.  Nom nom nom!
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August 21, 2013, 06:29:20 PM
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I've been prognosticating this for ages, at about this timeframe. Few listened. Here it is.

The huge drop was because USD-BTC is illiquid. The adjustment will be a continuing trend as sentiment shifts, not a vertical line.

right, we've never seen a recovery from levels like this before...  Roll Eyes

sell Vycid your cheap shares, he'll be glad to take them off your hands.

Indeed I will, I need them to exercise my put options.

At this point I think I'm the only one buying AM.

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August 21, 2013, 06:31:49 PM
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I've been prognosticating this for ages, at about this timeframe. Few listened. Here it is.

The huge drop was because USD-BTC is illiquid. The adjustment will be a continuing trend as sentiment shifts, not a vertical line.

right, we've never seen a recovery from levels like this before...  Roll Eyes

sell Vycid your cheap shares, he'll be glad to take them off your hands.

Indeed I will, I need them to exercise my put options.

At this point I think I'm the only one buying AM.

I guess you missed the massive rally a few hours ago, but hold on, cause another one is forming.  There's about 40 shares between here at 3.4

Other people like cheap AM shares, too.

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August 21, 2013, 06:40:36 PM
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The huge drop was because USD-BTC is illiquid. The adjustment will be a continuing trend as sentiment shifts, not a vertical line.

so, let me get this straight, the big drop was because of the USD/BTC rate and nothing to do with the low dividend this week or the whale that has been keeping the price at 3.5 for several days?

interesting theory.

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August 21, 2013, 06:46:57 PM
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The huge drop was because USD-BTC is illiquid. The adjustment will be a continuing trend as sentiment shifts, not a vertical line.

so, let me get this straight, the big drop was because of the USD/BTC rate and nothing to do with the low dividend this week or the whale that has been keeping the price at 3.5 for several days?

interesting theory.

Uh, no. I guess this needs explaining.

For people who are on the fence about AM, a drop prompts them to sell. This is easy, shares -> BTC.

But people who are bullish on AM likely don't have enough BTC sitting around to buy in lots at the low price. They have to buy BTC from USD first. USD is illiquid in the context of AM, not to mention it takes much longer to move BTC into an exchange than click 'sell'.

The bears react instantly and the bulls are delayed. So you get a cliff in the share price because resistance is anemic.

Don't trust the spikes. The trend is real, not the sudden movement. For a stock, value is equal to sentiment (look at Tesla), and eventually sentiment comes to match fundamentals. The technicals are noise. We will be below 2 in due time.

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August 21, 2013, 06:51:50 PM
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Sure I wish I had sold near the high - who doesn't?  But also wishing I hadn't just slept through the mid-2s dip.

The power of limit orders. Smiley
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