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1201  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: February 03, 2022, 08:50:41 AM
Over here, infections with mainly Omicron B1 still ramp up (at least one ATH this cycle).
Contact tracing is being turned off, "lockdown for unvaccinated"  ended, businesses are open for the unvaccinated next week, mandatory masks in elementary school will be restricted to shared spcaes out of classrooms, the vaccinated are now considered immune only for 6 months after the second shot, contact person regulations got dropped for the boostered and when said persons wore masks in presence of an infected person. The "experts" tell our goverment to do so because it's the best.
Government tries to force people to take mRNA jabs through vaccine mandate, about three months before conventional vaccines will be available for the public.

What could possibly go wrong?  Roll Eyes

Why not taking all rules out of effect, let it run, because Long Covid doesn't even exist? ("it's only psychic, muh doctor says").
Four councellors, three governments within the last three years. Say hello to Banana Country.  Roll Eyes Sad
1202  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 02, 2022, 07:06:19 PM

I am Turkish/Muslim born and living in Germany and get called rightist Nazi in the German media for not agreeing with this BS for 2 years now. They used this method for decades to put people who do not obey in the "rightist" corner. Unfortunately Germans believe it once again and they will be one of the last (Asia seems even deeper into this) who wake up to this. I hope the spark of hope we get from Canada will spread throughout the whole world anytime soon, before it is too late. I cant believe people agree to live like this for the next centuries. Because if we do not end this, it will never end.

The problem, very similar around where i live, is that they mix up too much. There is a demonstration against the vaccine mandate, but anti-vaxxers, action refusers, mask refusers, covid-deniers, conspiracy theorists, human rights organisations among others, BUT also known rightists and their affilated organisations (shouting for freedom).
So the media and politics can perfectly use the presence of the latter to condemn the whole demonstration and reframe its theme to something that makes all others also look bad.

WARNING! There are quite a few "Crisis Actors" deployed worldwide, but particularly in US & Canada. Many of them were sent to "riot" areas to "turn up the heat" into violence & property destruction. Many were sent to DC on 1/6 to instigate the breach into the Capital rather than a strategically more effective large crowd protesting peacefully outside on the grounds. And many are now being sent to mingle with the crowds of protestors in Ottawa wearing ridiculous WW2 NAZI uniforms. I first saw this tactic used in the original TEA Party movement, and was personally involved in identifying and ostrasizing a handful of them along with their camera crews on tax day April 15, 2012. They have since gotten more sophisticated and A LOT more funding. It was effectively used in Charlottesville, VA to turn a peaceful protest against destruction of historical statues into an "Alt-Right" White Supremacy movement and in Jan. 6th 2020 to create the "insurrection".

All of the sudden everybody walking in a group of people demonstrating against vaccine mandates is a nazi.
The "mode of war" has to change drastically, or its all lost.
It would also be better not to march against something but for the opposite of something.

"FOR freedom of choice of vaccination" vs. "AGAINST vaccine mandates".
In successful communication, you always bring an alternative to the table and don't really care about the position of your opponent(s).
This is a complete miss in all those anger-based demonstrations.

EDIT: The main reason: Emotions on == astuteness off  Roll Eyes

This highly funded Globalist Movement is taking on very sophisticated elements that frankly scare the shit out of me, and our own CIA & FBI are involved up to their necks in many of these operations world wide. Be very cautious and always be sure your logic keeps your emotions in check! It's important to understand the PsyOp tactics of Colour Revolution and how it is now being deployed globally to control and instigate the Great Reset. People are being effectively controlled by emotions and you can't really blame them as this is several levels beyond next level psychological warfare tactics. The best we can do is expose the counter productive elements and help people to see they are being manipulated. The division is intentional.

Yes, that seems to be the case in the US, which i was not referring too, but Germany, as mine was a reply to UnDerDog's post referencing german protests.
BUT: Not here, in my country. The original neonazi scene is joining peaceful protesters, as well as radical right groups from Germany, Poland and so on. These are the ones that make MSM being able to shift focus from anti-mandate to pro-nazi on the news.
You always get a lot of these badasses to join if you protest against something, whereas if you protest FOR something, they feel their energy is better suited to "against" protests, and if they don't find one, they organise their own. Then the negative attention is directed only at their group-exclusive, small protests on the sidelines.
The US and forging/staging plots incorporated and carried out by the national terrorist organisations (mainly CIA) is a different story, another magnitude higher.
I think we don't have to point out that people no more consume the MSM, but the MSM consumes the people. This only works on a stupid space rock, btw.
1203  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 02, 2022, 04:04:25 PM

I am Turkish/Muslim born and living in Germany and get called rightist Nazi in the German media for not agreeing with this BS for 2 years now. They used this method for decades to put people who do not obey in the "rightist" corner. Unfortunately Germans believe it once again and they will be one of the last (Asia seems even deeper into this) who wake up to this. I hope the spark of hope we get from Canada will spread throughout the whole world anytime soon, before it is too late. I cant believe people agree to live like this for the next centuries. Because if we do not end this, it will never end.

The problem, very similar around where i live, is that they mix up too much. There is a demonstration against the vaccine mandate, but anti-vaxxers, action refusers, mask refusers, covid-deniers, conspiracy theorists, human rights organisations among others, BUT also known rightists and their affilated organisations (shouting for freedom).
So the media and politics can perfectly use the presence of the latter to condemn the whole demonstration and reframe its theme to something that makes all others also look bad.
All of the sudden everybody walking in a group of people demonstrating against vaccine mandates is a nazi.
The "mode of war" has to change drastically, or its all lost.
It would also be better not to march against something but for the opposite of something.

"FOR freedom of choice of vaccination" vs. "AGAINST vaccine mandates".
In successful communication, you always bring an alternative to the table and don't really care about the position of your opponent(s).
This is a complete miss in all those anger-based demonstrations.

EDIT: The main reason: Emotions on == astuteness off  Roll Eyes
1204  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: January 31, 2022, 08:00:29 PM
I'm a pro-vaxxer. Surprised?
Let me explain: I see conventional, sterilizing vaccines (measles, smallpox...), which underwent a full approval process and turned out to be +99,999% safe as a gain for humanity. I also most likely will welcome the upcoming vaccines on the market that are about to finish phase-3, use the full, sterilized virus. These type of vaccines are not as "effective" as mRNA, so they say, but remember that the mRNA vaxx weren't tested as thoroughly, study details were classified by their vendors, while you can read something about their true effectiveness (EDIT: and (un)safety, most important) out of the stats made in the last year, which you also have to search for under the radar sometimes.

I am always open to criticism on (conventional, safe, correctly reviewed) vaccines, too. I don't try to paint the world using only black and white.

A person that believes in safe, effective vaccines is not in my mind a "fanatical pro-vaxxer". I too believe in safe, effective vaccines, so does that make me a pro-vaxxer?

Had 3 shots .lived with 2 people while they had the virus,shared bathrooms and bed but I never tested positive for covid so in my case it worked.

Or so you believe. Typical logical fallacy on display.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5362774.msg59044083#msg59044083

For me it's a ballance of risk. My age I smoke(green) and don't like the prospect of suffocating

I can only go on my own experience.

Can't be bothered to squabble with anyone,especially here.
It's every man for himself as I see it


Like I said I'm pro choice 😎

For the record I had 2×Oxford 1× moderna booster

While cannabinoid acid(s) in the (green) herbs are good against catching and widly replicating SARS-CoV-2, too.
I think i even posted a link to the study here. Can't remember if it was in-vitro or in-vivo study.

But whatevs, it's your life. Just don't support mandates, it's tyranny.

Clearly. And they are used (but less useful) to keep the wrecked health system running (more like going, but yeah).
What i am so upset about is that even when it's "individual choice" people base their choice on incomplete or faked information.
Vendors say mRNA is safe, so they have to be safe, right?
We know a lot better now, but we're still a minority.
People are manipulated into making "right" choices for too long now. Either we are fuck dumb as a species or this circus will blow up soon.
1205  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: January 31, 2022, 06:43:26 PM
Facts are not "positions". I don't expect you to see it the same way.

Yeah, we already know that some of you fanatical pro-vaxxers don't like facts and real science, especially when it no longer supports your "position". You'll go down with the ship I guess.

I'm a pro-vaxxer. Surprised?
Let me explain: I see conventional, sterilizing vaccines (measles, smallpox...), which underwent a full approval process and turned out to be +99,999% safe as a gain for humanity. I also most likely will welcome the upcoming vaccines on the market that are about to finish phase-3, use the full, sterilized virus. These type of vaccines are not as "effective" as mRNA, so they say, but remember that the mRNA vaxx weren't tested as thoroughly, study details were classified by their vendors, while you can read something about their true effectiveness (EDIT: and (un)safety, most important) out of the stats made in the last year, which you also have to search for under the radar sometimes.

I am always open to criticism on (conventional, safe, correctly reviewed) vaccines, too. I don't try to paint the world using only black and white.
1206  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2022, 06:28:31 PM

Short answer:
Not sure.

Long answer:
You see, here around they (MCD) try to keep the price as long as possible, but the size of the Big Mac got reduced slightly several times.
I remember they started by making the patties thinner, then they reduced their diameter, followed by the diameter of the buns. Also, if you just ate a whole BM, less salad was remaining in the box when you held your burger over it while eating.

So your coin might buy you a full Big Mac, even if it's half the size of today in the future.
Additionally, they just need to rename the burger, which would be like an exit scam, imho.

The MCD way of quantitative easing.
Am i loving it?

Why do people think that McD eventually wants to replace the real meat patty with a plant derivative? Because ItS MOrE goOD fOr YoUR HeALth? Lol

While the meat patty is not the most unhealthy component of their burgers. Fructose loaded buns, sweetened salad, not to speak of the "sauces".
It's the carbs that do most of the harm, not the meat.
1207  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2022, 06:11:55 PM
OK!  We are inching up, but the volume is still underwhelming.  But if we are to break through TODAY 39450(6H)-39650(1D) looks to be the magic number with 40k being a nice definitive break! (Bulltrap?)


Same thoughts here, but i also kind of remember that when we creeped up rather slowly with low volume, a red candle out of the sudden puts the price back near lower boundaries of most "channels". *Fingers crossed*
1208  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2022, 06:00:06 PM

Short answer:
Not sure.

Long answer:
You see, here around they (MCD) try to keep the price as long as possible, but the size of the Big Mac got reduced slightly several times.
I remember they started by making the patties thinner, then they reduced their diameter, followed by the diameter of the buns. Also, if you just ate a whole BM, less salad was remaining in the box when you held your burger over it while eating.

So your coin might buy you a full Big Mac, even if it's half the size of today in the future.
Additionally, they just need to rename the burger, which would be like an exit scam, imho.

The MCD way of quantitative easing.
Am i loving it?



1209  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: January 30, 2022, 10:17:16 PM
Feel better now?

In a rude attempt to hijack the discussion, i admit, i do feel better now.
I realized that seeing the consitutional court addressing the vaccine mandate, prematurely, made the whole day actually fucking great for me.
We're still living under a constitutional democracy and we better be thankful for those protecting it.
Anyway, this will be a lesson in history, regardless how it turns out. Humans obviously just suck at handling a viral pandemic.
1210  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2022, 10:04:41 PM
.....

I understand you are talking about the case, and not the coin... BUT!

One of these things is not like the others...



Great catch cAPS..... I mean mR eAGLE eYE!
I never even noticed that.
Here's the certificate that came with coin. So direct all complaints to Julie.




Uh-oh.. with that terminology, surely she is fixin to get a proper batslappening from Jay....perhaps?



Hmm, i was trying to desribe the problem yesterday, in one line of the three-pointed list of supposed blemishes.
I shoud have used a descriptive image like cAPSLOCK did. We both obviously found that design inconsistency shortly after another.

EDIT: For reference, my clumsy attempt to describe the red circled spot:

1. The upper dash (serif) on the left side of the BTC should be outdent, like the lower one.

EDIT2: ChartBuddy, pump it up, so i can backread several pages of WO tomorrow morning! Good nite  Kiss


1211  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2022, 09:49:59 PM
It's haiku Sunday
Where have all the haikus gone
Have not seen any


Triple posting
because i can, but also
to show some respect

respect to haikus
to their day, our sunday
haikus forever!
1212  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2022, 09:46:43 PM
That my friend, is the way to keep it. Never let your normie friends know how rich you are Wink
This is exactly the reason why I lost my friends.

Now my friends are my family.

and




Someone should tell that prick: HFSP !!  Cheesy  Cheesy




Thanks for demonstrating even lower motives than i thought of in context to Cobras tweet.
At least some achievement, innit?

EDIT: By the way, is this the altcoin train? If you understand relativity, you'll understand what i mean  Cheesy

Spoiler: Look up "vection".
1213  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2022, 09:44:47 PM
@PeterLBrandt
I find it fascinating that many (not all) on social media who wore laser eyes in Mar/Apr and predicted a rocket shot 🚀for $BTC in Nov now are predicting that the $30k level will be violated

When bulls wear laser eyes -- time to SELL
When bulls become bears -- time to BUY?Huh

https://twitter.com/peterlbrandt/status/1487845821299105795?s=21

I have not been much of a fan of PeterBrandt - even though despite a bit of the generalized judgementalism, he has a decent point here.

If $33k already was the "capitulation", it was reached pretty early. Uncomfirmed, yet showing noticeable sell volume.
Feels bullish somehow.
Have a good #hodlsleep.

I don't know how you would presume early?

We have had nearly three months of down.. and for sure at some point it is going to need to stop, whether we see some kind of traditional reversal or something more whimpy.  That $33k that you mention represents a bit over a 52% correction.. that has been followed by an earlier 56% correction.. so that surely seems like enough down for me, and I see no reason that we need to have any kind of capitulation in order for the momentum to resume UPpity... sure anything can happen, but we do not have to have "down before up."

In other words, there does not have to be capitulation for the bottom to be "in" - even though some peeps do appreciate a more clear sign that the bottom is "in" but that is NOT always how price dynamics play out in bitcoinlandia.

Right, sure it's not always how price dynamics play out.
I presumed early, in terms of the ol' cycle blowoff/long lasting bear grind down like 2017-2019. The market dynamics turned nuts in 2021, china exiting, ecologic mining FUD. "This time it's different", you remember?  Wink

I do sense that you are ongoingly feeling that BTC has been overly suppressed.. and "we should be at x price rather than some fraction of x"


I have to admit you're wrong.

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It is what it is, no?   I mean who is to say that there ways a, b, c and d reasons for the BTC price being lower than expected, and if a, b, c and d did not exist, there would be other reasons.. We cannot really know, so we just go with the punches, no?

Absolutely. If i wouldn't see it that way, i'd be better off creating a twitter account and join discussions there.
A small part of my lil selfie aimed at some goals i wanted to achieve, each of them needing some amount of money to be put in. For sure, i'd like it if Bitcoin would be (or have beeen already) in the desired price range(s) to make me sell a part of my stash, but these are all goals that would save me more money in the long run, so it's just a switch of assets, for everybody else that can see it that way.

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Bearwhales or whatever you want to call them, are going to attempt to take advantage of whatever they have going in their favor to continue to push the BTC price down for as long as they can and as low as they can get it to go, and for sure, they appreciate when weak hands cooperate because in that sense they do not have to use as many of their coins and/or resources because even though some of them might appear to have unlimited resources, such as infinitely printing money, there are likely even costs to some of their seemingly infinite resources.

I don't see the matter to be much different than previously in the sense that we continue to have attempts to push the BTC price down and attempt to cause HODLers to lose faith in HODLing... The main difference remains that the players are BIGGER and it takes more resources and financial instruments/tools to shake the weak hands from their coins.. and yeah, if there is an appearance that the 4-year fractal is broken or an appearance that stock to flow is broken then more weak hands can be shook from their coins...

Maybe an important question remains regarding the extent to which BTC prices can continue to be kept down for the next month, two or three months?  Sure the longer that bearwhales are able to keep the price down, the more that confidence is lost, but I really doubt that their resources are infinite and at some point they run out of coins and they cannot keep this bad boy down any more... And, I am not even proclaiming that I know the result of our current battle... because even though I presume that we are still in a bull market and there are slightly favorable odds towards UP rather than DOWN, it is not like I am betting the farm on odds that are maybe only slightly over 50%, at this time.  So most of us know that even the minority scenario may well end up playing out, which maybe we are already here in a kind of a minority scenario.. which truly adds to the loss of confidence of some BTC HODLers. but still does not mean that the bull market might not end up prevailing even if it could take a month, two months or three months to resolve the BTC price location battle that we are currently in.

Either way, it would be a good level to go up from here, maybe sideways first, until investors are convinced it's "safe" to put their money onto the table (again).

Sure... that's part of the frame, too.

Another assumption: The higher the price, the less steep the climbs. The higher the "tops", the higher the "lows". Unless no more market shaking events happen in the near future, BTC is ready to go (again) from here. SOMA, IMHO

Of course, we have a dynamic in bitcoin in which the keeping of momentum can really play in favor of whichever side has the momentum... so if the momentum turns to the upside, then the momentum could end up carrying the price to places that are further than what seems to be rational.... so yeah cannot really disagree that as bitcoin's market cap gets BIGGER and BIGGER, it takes a lot more capital to push up the BTC price, yet we also have various potentialities for the confluence of events in which a lot of folks (retail and institutions) continue to take coins off of exchanges, so there are fewer coins to work with in terms of determining the BTC price, and so there could be some confluence of events that cause there to NOT be enough coins available - even if we might already have strong (sand likely true) suspicions that there are a decent number of entities faking the number of coins that they have - but even some of the faking of coins could end up blowing up in their face too under certain circumstances - including some kind of outrageous exponential rise of the BTC price and then their clients want the coins or want the value of the coins, and the third party has hardly any coins to satisfy such demands that they were faking that they had in their possession.. It is not a straight forward gamble, even for some entities who create the appearance that they have infinite resources when they might not have as many resources as they are making it seem that they have.

I can only agree here. I wish i could express myself in english the same way you do, would help a lot. The points you mentioned are factuals that i consider too, but i fail to keep track of many details of my own reasoning in discussions. Look up "working memory" in wikipedia. In other spheres, i found a hope for cure, but it's not even approved and i have to undergo some more diagnostic tests like PET scans and some fancy analysis of retinal perfusion to indicate if the still experimental medication is appliciable for me. It would end more than 10 years of impairment. Then we will create much more fruitful discussions #nohomo
1214  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2022, 09:10:02 PM
That my friend, is the way to keep it. Never let your normie friends know how rich you are Wink
This is exactly the reason why I lost my friends.

Now my friends are my family.

and



 This tweet makes no sense; the Russo-Ukranian war began nearly 8 years ago and is still ongoing.  Also, exactly what problem would we be part of?
Considering that we hodlers are gleefully protecting our assets from that very thing - control of our money by a central authority while speculating on the demise of the current system for any and every reason - I guess we're all guilty as charged by C∅bra.  I'm not about to swap my bitcoin for dollars just in case some other banking cartels pile a few more sanctions on Russia and my wealth is preserved so colour me horrible I suppose.  I actively implore others to buy bitcoin today as well.  Be horrible! Buy Bitcoin!  Somberly if possible, gleefully if you must - just don't tweet about it; it's best kept a secret.


I disagree.
Cobra is very specific here and does not generally address hodlers.
If you don't get excited about Russia (i mean 99% people like me and you) getting excluded from a pseudo-standard financial transactions network, just because it could result in a price rise of Bitcoin, you're absolutely not included in this rant.
It's almost the same like having supported the war in irak because of expectations that the dollar would rise in the face of a booming arms industry, imho.
Please tell me you're not that type. If you aren't, you are not getting adressed by this tweet in any way.

EDIT: Re-reading that tweet after posting i see Cobra's last sentence being clear AF regarding the addressed audience.

EDIT2: Remember, most of the germans were shouting for WW2 because they expected more wealth from it. That's a very low motive in terms of humanity, isn't it?

   According to the tweet, the horrible human beings are the ones "gleefully" speculating that a Russia-Ukraine war (which as I pointed out has been going on for 8 years) will result in Russia being removed from SWIFT and subsequently adopting bitcoin as a settlement layer.  The one's who's first thought about war in Ukraine is, "Yay! Bitcoin goes up." are "part of the problem".   I'm asking, what "problem"?  There is no way in hell that a few bitcoiners "thinking" bad thoughts have any impact on a potential escalation of the current conflict between Russia and the Ukraine.   So it's not clear AF to me.


I see your point now.
"The problem" - imho - is that those people are making themselves part of the group wanting russia to start an (active) war.
Secondarily, Bitcoin would be once again the "asset of evil", according to politics and MSM if the dreams of the addressed people actually become reality.
Bitcoiners always fought against this powerful meme (no, i don't mean gifs on the internet). Which true Bitcoiner would want to empower the "enemy" by his own shortsightedness?

To the war: I don't comment and i don't take sides in this conflict. It is completely obsolete in my opinion, we have much bigger problems to solve.

nobody put much stock in what presidential order/directive means? it's supposedly coming next week.

 ..regulate..regulate..regulate.
imho, if they do, it would be more of a "command and control" economy that we would like to admit.

I fear we have to wait and see what they actually will bring to the table, but i'm a little suspicious too.
Background: In my home country, i am sitting out the progress of a vaccine mandate being put into effect. I spent way too much time and energy in arguing and playing mindgames about possible next steps and outcomes vs. possibilities. I got over to waiting until something really happens, which i can actually react to in a more efficient way. I guess it also keeps me thinking more factual than emotional about global propblems in general.
1215  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2022, 07:58:18 PM
That my friend, is the way to keep it. Never let your normie friends know how rich you are Wink
This is exactly the reason why I lost my friends.

Now my friends are my family.

and



 This tweet makes no sense; the Russo-Ukranian war began nearly 8 years ago and is still ongoing.  Also, exactly what problem would we be part of?
Considering that we hodlers are gleefully protecting our assets from that very thing - control of our money by a central authority while speculating on the demise of the current system for any and every reason - I guess we're all guilty as charged by C∅bra.  I'm not about to swap my bitcoin for dollars just in case some other banking cartels pile a few more sanctions on Russia and my wealth is preserved so colour me horrible I suppose.  I actively implore others to buy bitcoin today as well.  Be horrible! Buy Bitcoin!  Somberly if possible, gleefully if you must - just don't tweet about it; it's best kept a secret.


I disagree.
Cobra is very specific here and does not generally address hodlers.
If you don't get excited about Russia (i mean 99% people like me and you) getting excluded from a pseudo-standard financial transactions network, just because it could result in a price rise of Bitcoin, you're absolutely not included in this rant.
It's almost the same like having supported the war in irak because of expectations that the dollar would rise in the face of a booming arms industry, imho.
Please tell me you're not that type. If you aren't, you are not getting adressed by this tweet in any way.

EDIT: Re-reading that tweet after posting i see Cobra's last sentence being clear AF regarding the addressed audience.

EDIT2: Remember, most of the germans were shouting for WW2 because they expected more wealth from it. That's a very low motive in terms of humanity, isn't it?
1216  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: January 30, 2022, 07:44:49 PM
~

This long debunked nonsense again LOL

He didn't say the vaccines are gene therapy, he said the mRNA vaccine innovation is an example for gene therapy innovation, I'm assuming in how it can gain public acceptance.

The funny thing is that you could probably make an argument here that actually makes sense, e.g. how the vaccines are a trojan horse for something or other, but instead you go full illiterate conspiratard and take the absurdity to 11. Is Bill Gates paying you to discredit anti-vaxers?

This is indeed a problem within the conspiracy theorists community, they "conveniently translate" statements to reflect a very subjective "truth".
The article/youtube video you were referring to is indeed a good example. The community and their individuals are making themselves look untrustworthy to the rest of the world, being taken less and less serious over time. They work against themselves in the long run.
I have friends in these communities, but i refuse to speak about the pandemic with them, because it's hard to stay connected with them anyway, so i don't want to be the one making them cutting the wires because i call out their bullshit. The same people deliver sane arguments, but i just reply to any attempt to start a conversation with the words "Energy follows awareness. I don't want to dedicate any of my energy to Covid19, live at times got complicated and energy-demanding enough already". Then the switch to normal, social conversations is really easy.
It's not only bad that most people almost never double-check what they share on the web, it also gets exploited a lot.

Historically,  wars fought using words typically precede wars fought with actions.
1217  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2022, 07:01:22 PM
If $33k already was the "capitulation", it was reached pretty early. Uncomfirmed, yet showing noticeable sell volume.
Feels bullish somehow.
Have a good #hodlsleep.

I don't know how you would presume early?

We have had nearly three months of down.. and for sure at some point it is going to need to stop, whether we see some kind of traditional reversal or something more whimpy.  That $33k that you mention represents a bit over a 52% correction.. that has been followed by an earlier 56% correction.. so that surely seems like enough down for me, and I see no reason that we need to have any kind of capitulation in order for the momentum to resume UPpity... sure anything can happen, but we do not have to have "down before up."

In other words, there does not have to be capitulation for the bottom to be "in" - even though some peeps do appreciate a more clear sign that the bottom is "in" but that is NOT always how price dynamics play out in bitcoinlandia.


Right, sure it's not always how price dynamics play out.
I presumed early, in terms of the ol' cycle blowoff/long lasting bear grind down like 2017-2019. The market dynamics turned nuts in 2021, china exiting, ecologic mining FUD. "This time it's different", you remember?  Wink
Either way, it would be a good level to go up from here, maybe sideways first, until investors are convinced it's "safe" to put their money onto the table (again).
Another assumption: The higher the price, the less steep the climbs. The higher the "tops", the higher the "lows". Unless no more market shaking events happen in the near future, BTC is ready to go (again) from here. SOMA, IMHO

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I see some problems here, especially with rising energy prices. Miners have to stay profitable to keep going.
Well, we also know the difficulty algo, which takes care of drastic changes in global hashpower, and we have observed how flexible miners are when they are forced to change (location, primary energy sources, integration). Mass adoption is decoupled from the mainnet via lightning, so i expect the network and Bitcoin as a currency to persist, while success is not guaranteed. Additionally, i always remind myself that it keeps winning for more than a decade, against all odds that the conventional financial system called out within this timespan. We truly live in interesting times.
1218  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2022, 12:47:56 AM
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You don't mean the placement of the pocket is off center (vertically)?
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Off center.... correct! ....But in reality, its offset about 2 mm in the X-axis (horizontal), not the Y. But without that top view I can see that it does appear off in the Y.


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Barely noticeable. But what's that dent/chip on the upper lefr corner rounding on the first photo, with the coin pocket is facing upwards? Just a reflection?
.......


Ha! I forgot about that and didn't even notice it showed in photo till you mentioned it.
Indeed another fubar.
And I didn't make a big enough chamfer to clean it up. Cheesy

Still looks pretty elegant. Cool, solid, dark metal.
A bit like Bitcoin itself:
Cool, solid and also used on the darknet  Cheesy

Good night!
1219  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2022, 12:37:52 AM
If $33k already was the "capitulation", it was reached pretty early. Uncomfirmed, yet showing noticeable sell volume.
Feels bullish somehow.
Have a good #hodlsleep.
1220  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2022, 12:18:58 AM
..... but I thought he was talking about the display case rather than the coin itself. .....

Correct, I should have mentioned that it is indeed an issue with the steel housing case I made. Not the actual coin in capsule that I did not make.
Programming error in layout. I suppose if you don't make a certain assumption on proper placement
of the circular pocket in relation to the steel perimeter, there is no issue.
Also the photo not being a perfect top view might also not make the error apparent.
Have I given the answer away yet?


You don't mean the placement of the pocket is off center (vertically)?
Barely noticeable. But what's that dent/chip on the upper lefr corner rounding on the first photo, with the coin pocket is facing upwards? Just a reflection?

Forgot to say, I like storms.

We had storms aound here, but not so strong ones, followed by a day/night full of gusts. Wednesday/Thursday, so likely unrelated.
I love thunderstorms. I was teaching my kids to ecstatically scream "flash" after every lightning, followed by a growling-like "thunder" when the roll came in.
None of them was ever frightened by thunderstorms, they were used to enjoy them. When they woke up in the night because of thunder, some of them had complained about the loudness, but only sometimes.
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