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1201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: July 25, 2023, 08:31:08 PM
There is still no progress on Ferrari side. They are still continuing to make the same simple mistakes. Maybe Hamilton wasted a big chance in Hungary but at least there is a good progress on Mercedes side. McLaren have also become very consistent and strong now of course. Ferrari just can't accept this situation and move on the same now.

Ferrari started to do this every season and it is making them even weaker. Now they are planning to start off with a clean slate when we finish this season. They want to develop their car from scratch I guess but they have started to say this quite often.

I don't trust Ferrari about this anymore until they start to change something for real.
Ferrari did a lot of rookie mistakes that is so unbecoming of them. They'd literally go so far as to start from square one instead of working on their strengths and weaknesses which unironically made them even weaker as you're trying to imply. I don't think they have a stand at getting any more significant wins moving forward if they continue with this trend while the rest of the industry create formulaic decisions that will enable them to bag more wins.

Perhaps a change of driver could make something happen? Cause it's not always just going to be Ferrari's fault in retrospect and perhaps human error plays a role in this one too.
1202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there an good site for Chinese? on: July 25, 2023, 08:11:59 PM
Isn't gambling made illegal in China? Let alone cryptocurrency? Are you sure you're gonna risk getting caught and facing sentence over few hours of excitement and burning money? You can't use VPNs either cause most casinos as said earlier by the people in here, asks for identification details, and when they find out you're not really living from where your IP address is at you'd for sure get banned. I think the best you can do is go in sanctioned and licensed casinos in your country or Hongkong instead of risking yourself for temporary entertainment.

Piece of advice only, don't take it negatively cause if anything we're just looking out here for you. There are much safer ways for you to go about your gambling aspirations that do not involve breaking the law.
1203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 5 Bitcoins to never gamble again. Will you take it? on: July 25, 2023, 07:47:12 PM
Depends on what you mean by "gambling" cause anything can be considered gambling. I've seen people consider trading as a form of gambling cause risks are involved and there's a tendency for you to lose your money in the process, if what you mean is I can't gamble as in play games that offer monetary benefits when I win, then for sure!. I don't see any reason why I should not stop with gambling especially if given that ludicrous of an amount in the first place, and with the only caveat being I can't gamble anymore too lol. I've seen people gamble their lives away for as little as 10 bucks, with this amount you're basically set for life in some countries if you were to liquidate it. If you wouldn't and decide to venture into other ways for you to create more money you could basically try real estate and increase your wealth in the process! The whole world's your oyster when you have enough money, so that in exchange for not being able to gamble? Lol that's an easy choice.
1204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Other Things You Can Bet on Aside Sports and Casino Games on: July 25, 2023, 07:19:48 PM
Ah yes, Gag betting. My favorite kind of gambling. Lol there's no end to what you can bet on if you put your mind on it. Anything with a probabilistic nature can easily pass off as something you can place a bet on. Saw someone place bets on who's going to be the next president, if this senator's going to be impeached, I even saw people betting on when people will die (although this is a bit morbid and is carefully reserved by some to people that are either too old already or just genuine asshats that deserve it). Used to make bets with friends where we would bet on who's going to win more in our gambling sessions which is actually one of the reasons why I got introduced into the gambling world in the first place.
1205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers Belief on: July 24, 2023, 11:46:11 PM
The hope of a gambler often leads them into situations they often regret upon losing the funds that was meant for something else. Courage to do so without minding the cost is what even makes the gamblers belief in hope much stronger.

OP, you know we can also allot pride and ego to fit very well with hope in this gamblers corner, because the hope of winning must have been spurred from previous wins, and the mind that the cash used for gambling is inexhaustible and sufficient.
Inasmuch as what drives the gambler is different for different folks, hope for some individuals is nothing more of a believe in a better tomorrow and it has been programmed in the subconscious.
It only really manifest because the person has channeled it to focus on gambling.
Sometimes, hope is a poison. When people rely on hope and forget to ground themselves in reality, and in turn they make the most deranged of choices in the name of hope and hoping that the odds will be in their favor, that's when things go sour. It's one thing to be hopeful, it's another to be delusional and think that just because you've been dealt a bad hand 99% of the time, the next try's going to give you the win you need. Life doesn't work like that, if it does then trying would be the biggest business and vocation now.

I hate that OP painted this stupid notion of the addicted gambler's mindset as if it's something to applaud and glorify, people lost lives and money because of this false hope, if you're going to depict hope in it's purest form find a different example lol.
1206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Abuse ... on: July 24, 2023, 11:19:14 PM
While I would agree with the fact that gambling can definitely be abused by people, I don't agree much with the analogy you made. Tramadol while considered a drug, is way more detrimental to people's lives than gambling in my opinion. There are people who certainly threw their lives away through gambling and I only wish these people make it out of the hell hole they subjected themselves into but not only is tramadol life-disrupting, it's also deadly when used in excess.

I would advocate under the same banner as you since I sorely abhor gambling addiction, but at the same time we gotta paint a clear picture to the people we want to send the message out to so they don't mistake/misinterpret what we're trying to say.
Very well said, but you realize the tramadol analogy is just an analogy after all, I didn't use it wit a mind of trying to compare the drug to gambling or compare gambling to the drug, from what I know, being addicted to gambling could be more dangerous to some people more than being addicted to the drug, and for others, the revise might be the cause, I personally wont come to the conclusion that either addiction to the drug or addiction to gambling is more dangerous, it all depends on the individual involved, at least, I know a gambler who was addicted to gambling for just two years and later ended his life at the beginning of the third year due to a supposed mistake he made, and having been addicted to tramadol in the past myself, I know a lot of  guys who are addicted to the drug for several years now and still alive and kicking.
With that we both agree. I never meant to portray that Tramadol is more destructive than gambling mind you, just that these two things disrupt the person's life in different ways. With regular gambling there's patterns you won't see from people who's drugging themselves with Tramadol, and that's my only concern cause some people may think that these two things incur the same effects to the people which goes great if you want to scare off people from gambling, but bad if you want to make a point.

At the end of the day it still stands, gambling abuse sucks, so does substance abuse. I only wish recovery for people who have subjected themselves in these dire situations.
1207  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you consider moving abroad? on: July 24, 2023, 10:42:40 PM
I understand where you're coming from my friend, after all I was raised in a family where my dad worked abroad too. While I would understand your reservations in the field of language, I would say that's going to be the least of your worries soon as you decide to work abroad. With countries like the USA and UK being outright discriminatory against people who are not of their own race, your biggest dilemma will be how to dodge racism and discrimination, especially during the ever-increasing Asian Hate within the US territory which as the term implies, specifically caters towards discriminating and in some cases even injuring and violating Asian people, that's just one of the stuff you'd have a bigger worry than the language barrier.

Still, I'd say with the economic situations we're in it's better to eat your pride and actually do something to make your life better, which in this case is working abroad.
1208  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think selling your property is better than taking loan? on: July 24, 2023, 09:56:06 PM
I say its better to actually sell than subject yourself to a loan you'd have a hard time paying. For one, the act thereof of taking a loan when you're not even sure if you can pay it back is already a big problem my brother, since not only are you subjecting yourself to bigger financial troubles, you're also ruining your self-image against friends, family, relatives, or basically everyone who trusts you and is on your side. If you think you're not going to be able to pay it on your promised time, worst not even able to pay it at all, then might as well just find other ways to supplant your lack of money, like getting a job or actually selling your appliances like what OP's friend did. Better to inconvenience yourself than bring other people to your dilemma.
1209  Economy / Economics / Re: Fast Transportation Makes Economic Turnover Faster on: July 24, 2023, 09:39:01 PM
I'd say there has to be a balance of cost-effectiveness with travel efficiency for economic turnover to happen. Like for example, while it's certainly great to receive your pizza as soon as possible (which means more money for Domino's or whatever Pizza house you order your food from), it's pretty excessive to use high-power equipment like Jetpacks just to achieve maximum delivery efficiency yeah? Not to mention the ever-increasing price of gas too! I say it's not fast transportation that we really need. What we need is efficient roads and avenues that do not congest. The eradication of Traffic will completely solve the problem that we have with transportation and economic turnover. And how do we solve that? Commuting and Carpooling.
1210  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Elon musk is for crypto or just for attention to boost Tesla, SpaceX? on: July 24, 2023, 09:08:13 PM
Saw this news a while ago. I must say this is one of the most stupid things he has ever did so far as a belligerent CEO of multiple companies, and he's already one of the most deranged ones out there. Twitter is a multi-billion dollar brand that people painstakingly worked hard for since 2009. Not the mention the amount of acclaim and promotion that it has received over the years. To rebrand twitter for no reason besides "continuity" as all his companies had "X" in their names is just stupid and is going to cost him a lot of money in the long run. He's already bleeding cash in Twitter, and he's seeing a worthy competitor in Threads, instead of aggressively selling the benefits of Twitter over their competitor he chooses to change the brand and all that. Good luck.
1211  Economy / Economics / Re: How to increase profit in business on: July 24, 2023, 08:45:02 PM
The only way you can increase your profit potential as a business owner is to scale up your business. If you continue serving the same demographic, your money will stagnate as every target demographic possess specific spending power. So scaling up to cater to two or more target demographics, while a costly and risky move, is the only surefire way for you to continuously increase the power of your business. It has been done in the past, food providers, alcoholics, even apparel providers took this approach and with a stroke of proper marketing and a fuck-ton of luck, they were able to go big, some even offering franchising opportunities for people who wanted to use the business's name so they don't have to worry about creating competition.
1212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Deposit limits on: July 24, 2023, 08:18:13 PM
I mean that's the very nature of it anyway, these implements aren't necessarily imposed by the casino upon everyone cause we still have high rollers with a greater capacity for loss and wins, but at the same time they know they need to cater to people who are on the uncontrollable side when they gamble. That's why disclaimers are put where the casino is effectively free of any responsibility if the gambler chooses to disobey the parameters he set for himself in the first place. At the end of the day, it's not the casino who's going to help you with gaining discipline and control over your gambling urges. They may try all they could to make sure that you're not straying too far but the decision will ultimately lie upon your hands. If you can't settle with that then might as well not gamble cause you're effectively relinquishing control just so you can blame someone else.

1213  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Got scamed by Stake on: July 24, 2023, 07:55:39 PM
You misclicked. That's all there is to it. I don't think a million-dollar gambling site like Stake's going to cheap out on customer experience by letting these "bugs" as you put it roam freely on the site. And here I thought you have a serious accusation too lmao. Next time be very careful when you're making bets and don't bet on handicaps if you want to bet on match winner. Plus you're literally asking for money right away and we don't even know who you are. You're literally bullshitting us right now if I'm being honest.

If you have a complaint with Stake, best to put it to their doorstep and refrain from asking people money when we don't owe you anything at all. And if you're that crazy over measly 75 pounds, you might wanna stop gambling altogether as you're definitely not in the right financial disposition I reckon.
1214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Abuse ... on: July 24, 2023, 07:30:00 PM
While I would agree with the fact that gambling can definitely be abused by people, I don't agree much with the analogy you made. Tramadol while considered a drug, is way more detrimental to people's lives than gambling in my opinion. There are people who certainly threw their lives away through gambling and I only wish these people make it out of the hell hole they subjected themselves into but not only is tramadol life-disrupting, it's also deadly when used in excess.

I would advocate under the same banner as you since I sorely abhor gambling addiction, but at the same time we gotta paint a clear picture to the people we want to send the message out to so they don't mistake/misinterpret what we're trying to say.
1215  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lost bitcoins on: July 23, 2023, 11:53:18 PM
Lots of stuff that affects the price of bitcoin, the ones at circulation are just a factor of it. If it were to be discovered and returned into circulation, depending on if it were to be sold outrightly, or if it were to be sold to be traded yields two different outcomes. The former causing the price to go down cause it depreciates the value of bitcoin by dumping some of it especially if it's a substantial amount, but the latter wouldn't do much cause at the end of the day, nothing of value is lost.

I would argue that the recovery of lost bitcoins would even be great for bitcoin cause at the end of the day, that's more bitcoin that would be in circulation with more people being able to buy and use it, so whether they sell it or not, the price change will be temporary, but the benefits will stay with us until bitcoin's gone.
1216  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Michael Saylor a modern apostle like Peter and Paul? on: July 23, 2023, 11:32:48 PM
Here we are again with the people who thinks bitcoin is the second coming of jesus christ or something. I mean it's one thing to be happy for its existence and support it with whatever you can but it's another to truly idolize it with the idea that it's the answer to all of the world's problems when it clearly isn't. Stop it with this you're more cringey than bitcoin maximalists. Michael Saylor did nothing but to preach bitcoin and buy it for microstrategy, I don't think he'd go as high as Peter and Paul in acclaim and fame just cause he supported one cryptocurrency when this thing is decentralized and the effort of it becoming a global currency lies upon the people and not among the hands of these promoters. Stop it. it's stupid.

1217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 on: July 23, 2023, 11:08:08 PM
^ That is a controversial statement by his coach, but it seems that Fulton is just shrugging his shoulder as if to tell this coach to shut up.

In any case, Fulton with or without that hand wraps, believes that he can and will beat Fulton as his own country in front of his crowd. So that is the mentality that Fulton has right now. No need from his coach to throw some rants on the media. Japanese is very respectful, but if you talk trash maybe we will see Inoue unleashes his full potential and power at super bantamweight as he might be agree with that statement.
I feel like it's just the coach doing something to either rouse the people's suspicion or have a say when his kid loses, cause now he can say that Fulton lost cause "inoue fought dirty and did something that is considered illegal" when he's probably just doing something that all boxers do anyway. Inoue is a capable fighter as many have said with or without help and to top it all off this is a home country fight, there's no way he's letting himself down in front of the people who trusts and believes in his ability.

But if it came to investigation I still think Inoue would prevail, and if it does come to that point with Inoue's innocence being proven, I say Fulton's coach must be sanctioned or something lol, You can't just do stuff like that.
1218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? on: July 23, 2023, 10:47:14 PM
It destroys the purpose of playing games and gambling out money on the online platforms. So what would we do? Just sit and watch AI do all the thinking and try to compete another AI? That’s all?

Why do we think that casinos will allow this and let us say this is actually implemented somehow with the back doors then what do you think will happen to the casinos. They would go bankrupt and shut themselves. Or may be they would love to get on the other side of casino and just run the AI to make money for themselves.

The entire idea is hoax. It will never work.
Casinos will never let that happen no matter what, if people can develop AI models to cheat the casinos and earn money through them, casinos can also hire developers, develop AI models to prevent AIs to enter the casino and be able to gamble, and I'm pretty sure that they can easily achieve that because if AI can give gamblers the opportunity to gamble with it, it can also give the casinos the opportunity to fight back against this system of cheating.

And I don't even understand why would people be interested in using AI models to gamble with when it will only take the fun away, even if you are gambling to win a lot of money, the fun is when you are watching that happening in front of your eyes and not by an AI you've put to work.
I'll tell you something icy. Gaming AI is a double-edged sword. However, my friend, the edge isn't uniformly distributed. Casinos won. Their home, their rules. They'll find AI faster than supercharged bloodhounds. Your AI model will fail soon. No party invite, right?

Why is gambling AI so hyped? Why watch a machine play your hand? Doesn't the game's excitement, like the dice roll or card turn, make our hearts beat faster? Enjoy the celebration. Don't eliminate players. No bots!

And that is considering that AI gambling is even usable, we all know it's ass just considering the fact that it takes a long while for them to learn from data fed to them, and with poker having octillions of possible combinations, not to mention human-based strategies like bluffing it would take octillions of years before AI even becomes a better competitor/predictor of events. Quantum Computers could do something about it but we all know that shit's not going to be commercialized just because it's too powerful to be given to people who could use it for bad things.

At the end of the day, just gamble without the notion of "I gotta win this shit" cause that's when you go stupid and make questionable decisions like relying on AI for odds and answers lol.
1219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers Belief on: July 23, 2023, 10:24:31 PM
Hope is a good thing, until you let it poison you.

It's good and great and all that but sometimes staying grounded and realistic will save you from trouble too. Such as with gambling, you can't stay hopeful and faithful to the process cause you know out of all people that the process is rigged against you and it will come for your ass if you let it. So staying a little realistic and setting up boundaries is just as important as having the propensity to take risks. Just as what some people have told you about in this thread, having hope is not going to guarantee you wins. It just gives you the confidence to make those choices and switch up when you need to. You have to differentiate staying hopeful to copium and making belligerent choices in the name of profit.
1220  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Irresponsible behavior at the Las Vegas Casino on: July 23, 2023, 10:08:37 PM
I've gone so drunk that I pass out and stuff and I say pretty outrageous things but I never went so far as to embarrass myself like this. Which brings me to think what the fuck is going on with these types of people to make them do stuff like this when they are drunk! Cause alcohol doesn't make you do stupid shit and I know this, what it does is just give you enough confidence to do whatever you want that's why some people call it liquid courage lol. So seeing people go absolute stupid when they are drunk is just something that makes me wonder what type of people they are really, or at the very least what goes on in their heads when they're sober. All in all I think it's entertaining lmao, disrupting and weird but entertaining nonetheless.
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