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1261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: July 26, 2023, 09:21:12 PM
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Well, there are people who can take gambling as a way to earn an income, and wow, I know some friends who do, but why? Because they have the ability to have a lot of money, their parents are millionaires, they left them a tremendous inheritance, they have so much money that they don't know what to spend it on, so for that type of person, they can play ad nauseam because what they spend won't affect them, so these are things that at least I don't have I have money but very little for a casino, but why? because I have responsibilities with my family, and yes, I play in a casino because I like it, it's a way of having fun that I can do from home at any time.

The idea of all this is that people measure themselves according to their economic capacities, a person who does not have so much money cannot play at the level of a whale, because they know that they will lose everything and it will go badly for them, that is what I I call having a sense of responsibility.

It must be good to have a good way of responding to things, that is, if you spend a lot of money gambling and it doesn't affect your daily life, I think I would consider that a blessing, because in the casino the more money you have and apart from having capacity because more is spent.

Wealth, especially when misused, can cause cognitive conflict. Its like watching an affluent friend in a casino. It recalls a reckless moment when results didnt matter. I chuckle at their pranks yet realise how different they are.

You've managed this money and carelessness storm. Well done! Responsibility and judgement are as vital as money. Small fish can swim with whales if they're travelling the proper way.

Remember that we create our own pathways in this crazy game called life. Lets be creative, smart, and optimistic. We'll be proud of the trip, even if its not interesting.

I say something, at least when I play in a casino and I see that I am losing my money, there is an internal stop that does not let me continue playing, because I know that I will continue to lose, at least those things happened before, now I no longer feel that, because when I'm going to play I always leave a part of my balance to spend, if I lose it that's fine with me, I have no regrets, because it's what I'm willing to lose, so my way of controlling the plays could be said to be as if I would put a lock or something similar, and really if a person tends to have a good diction I would like them to copy my method.

Of course, as far as I'm concerned about this method , it's because I invented it, and although it looks very safe, and looks somewhat conserved and quite efficient, and in the end I think that's what really matters to me, because when seeing that there are so many addiction problems and other types of things always arise when generating more emcoins in the casinos, this including contests, bonuses, all this makes a player become more emcoined and want to play and play , without measuring any Type of money , he only cares about playing and in his mind there is only the word Winning , but we must be realistic , we must know that in a Casino the Safest thing is to lose than to win , if we as players have that clear there is no Problem.

When we take control of our money as an option , things can happen in a great way, because that way we get rid of having a very bad time , and that is the main advantage of my Method.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to whatever works for you. Just as there are different trading tactics that work for specific sets of traders, the same could be said for gambling as well. Glad that you found a technique that helps you stay focused and entertained when you're gambling without breaking the bank which is more than what we could say for some people out here who's flirting with financial loss everytime they gamble. Props to you for being aware of gambling addiction too and straying away from it actively. It's one thing to know what gambling addiction is, it's another to acknowledge how dangerous it is and actively partaking in discpline and methods to avoid it as much as possible.

I myself took it upon myself to adapt a method that I found here in the forum, you basically limit yourself to only three wins or three losses everytime you gamble. Soon as you reach 3 wins or 3 losses you could call it a day already to either stop you from bleeding any more money, or from spending all your wins away. I'm not saying you should try it, but it so far helped me stay in track when I'm gambling which is good.
1262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Deposit limits on: July 26, 2023, 09:01:33 PM
You know, what happens in some cases @Oshosondy, since there are a lot of casinos, and I also think that every country has a few local casinos too, and most of these casinos don't even support the limit stuff you are talking about. But what really happens in some cases is that, except for a newbie gambler, most old-time gamblers do have accounts with different casinos, and some gamblers too can have two different accounts in one casino, so the question is, for such gamblers, would the deposit limit even stop them from gambling daily if they wanted to? Nop! The reason is that with their other casino account, they can still place their bet and not be affected with the limit of deposit.
I'll do you one better. Since the deposits limits can be altered and changed depending on the user's preferences, what is the propensity that these people will follow through with what they imposed upon themselves in the first place? Isn't this deposit limit a little futile especially if gamblers end up changing/removing these limitations anyway so they can gamble more? Hypocritical even lol. Deposit or not it all boils down on the ability of the gambler to discipline himself and follow through with his regiments, because unless the casino is to strictly impose these limitations I don't see this helping anyone at all really, cause if I'm someone who's addicted to gambling already, what good would it do if I could just reset my deposit limits when I feel the need to?
1263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: July 26, 2023, 08:33:29 PM
One sad truth is that there are too many irresponsible gamblers that are coming to that moment of taking loans because they can't contain the excitement that they want to gamble. And, when they've lost a lot and there's no money anymore they're trying to chase losses through selling their properties and other assets.

It's an emotional battle that's hard to overcome when the affected person is no longer controllable. No one stops anyone from gambling but please don't be too much that you're harming yourself and also affecting others especially your immediate family.

There are no other people that's going to help you at first but them.
Undoubtedly, support and communication on these topics from loved ones is one of the best medicines. The other side is that in most cases gambling addicts do not tell anyone about it because they are ashamed.

Close relatives will find out only after the gambler loses a lot. And even after that, he can be silent. Even I, who am well acquainted with such problems, can not immediately see it in a person. What to say about those who do not even know about such problems, for example, parents who are already in old age. I want to urge everyone to be attentive to their friends and relatives, perhaps you will save them at the right time.
That's because addicted gamblers exhibit symptoms and patterns of behavior that is similar to someone who is suffering from Depression. The seclusion, the lack of motivation to do anything besides what they are most acquainted, which in this case is gambling. They feel ashamed of what they do which is also a definitive reason of why they keep to themselves as what you said. The thing is, and this is true for most of the cases where people who are addicted to gambling is involved, intervention is needed like 90% of the time. You can't just ask and addicted gambler if there's something wrong cause they'd lie about it, so actually taking the initiative and giving them the help they need even if they say "they didn't want it" is going to be helpful and pivotal to their recovery.
1264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Abuse ... on: July 26, 2023, 08:13:46 PM
What is Gambling Abuse?
Gambling abuse is simply defined as gambling with a motive that is different from the real purpose why gambling is in existence.
Let me also say my view on "Gambling Abuse". Gambling Abuse is the process of unfaithful to the casino which is also violating the terms and conditions of the casino. Therefore, many gamblers abuse their gamblings to play fast game.
Op drug abuse is different from gambling Abuse. Drug abuse is the over use of the drugs or use the drug with a doctor prescription. But in gambling Abuse you play a smart game to with the bet or slot.
What you're talking about is Casino Abuse. Gambling abuse is Gambling addiction really. Although I understand why it's a bit of a misnomer too which is why I don't really use it as much as Fiverstar does. In any case while you're right about one thing and I'm not gonna take that away from you, Casino abuse is a much better term for it since it's not the act thereof of gambling that you're abusing but the vulnerabilities that the casino overlooked that you're taking advantage of. Gambling Abuse still is a term suited for the act of abusing gambling for the highs and the dopamine hits as well as the prospect of earning money.

At the end of the day let's just all agree that everything of excess is bad and should not be condoned, same goes with gambling even if you're winning a fuck ton of money from it.
1265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - November on: July 26, 2023, 07:45:30 PM
Tapales has got little to prove and a lot to gain. But that is provided that he could stand against Inoue in the first place. Inoue is still in his prime and there's no stopping this beast of a fighter in his quest to claim belts. While there's a probabilistic chance for Inoue to lose this fight and hand the belt to Tapales, I don't think the latter has what it takes to beat Inoue in a one-on-one knock-off. Tapales best not aim for heights that are still far from his reach else he risks a devastating loss that may upturn his career. Inoue remains undefeated and I don't think someone who's yet to prove himself in the ring and the boxing community's got the chance and the cajones to beat him willy-nillly. Until then we just had to stay hoping that this fight goes through cause even if Tapales doesn't have anything of substance to prove in his name, it's still going to be interesting to see how Inoue takes all his fight with known and obscure fighters.
1266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Other Things You Can Bet on Aside Sports and Casino Games on: July 25, 2023, 11:00:14 PM
Some of these are just waste of time IMO. I don't think people are really going out of their way to bet on these events in hopes of making money. Some people do, but only for the heck of it and not in the purpose of making money. I would rather bet it on something that has the possibility to make me money rather than bet on something because I'm curious and I just want to get involved in the fuzz that everyone is getting on about.
I get what you're trying to say and I would agree with it but at the same time I say not every gamble session you make should be "ohh because I want to make more money hurr durr" yeah? These things exist not only because people are stupid and would bet on anything for the hell of it, but also because it actually brings the entertainment side of gambling to the table which is often outshined by the profit part, being one of the biggest reasons why people see gambling as a money-making machine instead of a form of entertainment which in essence is that. So while I believe it's to each his own when it comes to gambling, I say these things are cool too cause there's people who bet on it for one, and they indirectly promote the entertainment side of gambling.
1267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Other Things You Can Bet on Aside Sports and Casino Games on: July 25, 2023, 10:14:06 PM
Huh, I'm rather curious about the end of the world bet one. Wonder if people actually bet on it and how legit is it lmao. And doesn't it make a guaranteed win for the house if the year passes without the world ending or something like that?

On another note, a lot of things can be bet really, OP's list is more of the ridiculous ones (not in a bad way, well maybe except celebrity deaths, now that's just fucked up). I mean, there's usually the presidential elections (or any type depending on your community), Ms Universe and any other types of contest-esque events, usually big scaled ones.
If I'm being honest that's way too dark and kind of fucked up too cause you're basically profiteering the end of everything. And how do you even go about taking your wins lol is it like situational where if things get messed up and we live in a post-apocalyptic world like Fallout you get bottlecaps instead of dollars or something? Lmao that is too intense and stupid too in my opinion. As for celebrity and personality deaths while I know it's fucked up is kind of rampant actually. We had people betting on what year Queen Elizabeth's going to die, in the Philippines they did the same with an old senator who did some deranged shit too like getting his own self ambushed just so the government can issue Martial Law, among others.
1268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a gambler do you have a potential winning amount limit? on: July 25, 2023, 09:50:36 PM
I have heard and read about people gambling because they had no source of income,  a job or they wanted to add gambling as part of their streams of income. Whatever your category the bottom line is that we all gamble to make money though some group claim it's mainly for fun. But who would want to be losing money all in the idea of catching fun!

There are gamblers that don't place their bet not until they have gotten a certain amount as their potential win. Some do this based on their financial challenge with the anticipation that just one win they may get on such amount is a life changer for them.

My main focus on this thread is in this question: as a gambler do you place your bet according to the weight of your financial need or you're always okay with whatever amount that comes out as potential win no matter how small amount?

First off, being financially challenged should've been a cue for people to not gamble anymore. The fact that they are risking losing more money than they can ever earn in exchange for a low prospect of winning more money to solve their problems may work sometimes, but mostly it just drives you to even more financial trouble. Gambling should be done with one thing only in mind which is for entertainment. The moment you start looking at gambling differently, problems will arise and you'd find that you'll lose more money than you can ever work with. I thought this threads for protecting your wins and funds but apparently people have other ideas in mind when you say potential winning amount limit.
1269  Economy / Gambling / Re: what are the best crypto casinos! on: July 25, 2023, 09:33:24 PM
Stake takes the top of the list once again just cause it's one of the best when it comes to providing games with their large roster of playable games and sports that you can bet on, plus the fact that among other casinos that I have played with, the withdrawal process in Stake is so streamlined and easy even with the KYC requirement which doesn't take too much of your time too. So the fact that stake's at the top, while I would agree with, is something that doesn't really surprise me anymore.

What's going on with Sportsbet though, why does it have such a low score on Trustpilot? I know they've experienced a couple of accusations in the past including that one guy who wouldn't relent about Sportsbet withholding his funds and closing his account, and while he's already dealt with, I think he left pretty bad reviews on them through multiple accounts or something (I don't really know how trustpilot works I'm just spitballing here) which may have caused the low trust rating.
1270  Economy / Gambling / Re: Which are best stake alternatives on: July 25, 2023, 08:56:52 PM
Up to you really. But if you wouldn't mind me asking what makes you want to switch casinos in the first place? In my knowledge Stake is one of if not the best casino and gambling platform out there. Plus they're worldwide so reach is not the problem right here. They don't slack off with the games and the customer service too as they provide one of the best roster of games out there for people to enjoy, and they have virtually 24/7 customer service.

If it's just a matter of preference you could find a couple of good casinos out here with active threads so you can jive with their gamblers and all that but I wouldn't really say they are alternatives cause every casino's got their own selling point, and Stake's just that unique.
1271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: July 25, 2023, 08:31:08 PM
There is still no progress on Ferrari side. They are still continuing to make the same simple mistakes. Maybe Hamilton wasted a big chance in Hungary but at least there is a good progress on Mercedes side. McLaren have also become very consistent and strong now of course. Ferrari just can't accept this situation and move on the same now.

Ferrari started to do this every season and it is making them even weaker. Now they are planning to start off with a clean slate when we finish this season. They want to develop their car from scratch I guess but they have started to say this quite often.

I don't trust Ferrari about this anymore until they start to change something for real.
Ferrari did a lot of rookie mistakes that is so unbecoming of them. They'd literally go so far as to start from square one instead of working on their strengths and weaknesses which unironically made them even weaker as you're trying to imply. I don't think they have a stand at getting any more significant wins moving forward if they continue with this trend while the rest of the industry create formulaic decisions that will enable them to bag more wins.

Perhaps a change of driver could make something happen? Cause it's not always just going to be Ferrari's fault in retrospect and perhaps human error plays a role in this one too.
1272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there an good site for Chinese? on: July 25, 2023, 08:11:59 PM
Isn't gambling made illegal in China? Let alone cryptocurrency? Are you sure you're gonna risk getting caught and facing sentence over few hours of excitement and burning money? You can't use VPNs either cause most casinos as said earlier by the people in here, asks for identification details, and when they find out you're not really living from where your IP address is at you'd for sure get banned. I think the best you can do is go in sanctioned and licensed casinos in your country or Hongkong instead of risking yourself for temporary entertainment.

Piece of advice only, don't take it negatively cause if anything we're just looking out here for you. There are much safer ways for you to go about your gambling aspirations that do not involve breaking the law.
1273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 5 Bitcoins to never gamble again. Will you take it? on: July 25, 2023, 07:47:12 PM
Depends on what you mean by "gambling" cause anything can be considered gambling. I've seen people consider trading as a form of gambling cause risks are involved and there's a tendency for you to lose your money in the process, if what you mean is I can't gamble as in play games that offer monetary benefits when I win, then for sure!. I don't see any reason why I should not stop with gambling especially if given that ludicrous of an amount in the first place, and with the only caveat being I can't gamble anymore too lol. I've seen people gamble their lives away for as little as 10 bucks, with this amount you're basically set for life in some countries if you were to liquidate it. If you wouldn't and decide to venture into other ways for you to create more money you could basically try real estate and increase your wealth in the process! The whole world's your oyster when you have enough money, so that in exchange for not being able to gamble? Lol that's an easy choice.
1274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Other Things You Can Bet on Aside Sports and Casino Games on: July 25, 2023, 07:19:48 PM
Ah yes, Gag betting. My favorite kind of gambling. Lol there's no end to what you can bet on if you put your mind on it. Anything with a probabilistic nature can easily pass off as something you can place a bet on. Saw someone place bets on who's going to be the next president, if this senator's going to be impeached, I even saw people betting on when people will die (although this is a bit morbid and is carefully reserved by some to people that are either too old already or just genuine asshats that deserve it). Used to make bets with friends where we would bet on who's going to win more in our gambling sessions which is actually one of the reasons why I got introduced into the gambling world in the first place.
1275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers Belief on: July 24, 2023, 11:46:11 PM
The hope of a gambler often leads them into situations they often regret upon losing the funds that was meant for something else. Courage to do so without minding the cost is what even makes the gamblers belief in hope much stronger.

OP, you know we can also allot pride and ego to fit very well with hope in this gamblers corner, because the hope of winning must have been spurred from previous wins, and the mind that the cash used for gambling is inexhaustible and sufficient.
Inasmuch as what drives the gambler is different for different folks, hope for some individuals is nothing more of a believe in a better tomorrow and it has been programmed in the subconscious.
It only really manifest because the person has channeled it to focus on gambling.
Sometimes, hope is a poison. When people rely on hope and forget to ground themselves in reality, and in turn they make the most deranged of choices in the name of hope and hoping that the odds will be in their favor, that's when things go sour. It's one thing to be hopeful, it's another to be delusional and think that just because you've been dealt a bad hand 99% of the time, the next try's going to give you the win you need. Life doesn't work like that, if it does then trying would be the biggest business and vocation now.

I hate that OP painted this stupid notion of the addicted gambler's mindset as if it's something to applaud and glorify, people lost lives and money because of this false hope, if you're going to depict hope in it's purest form find a different example lol.
1276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Abuse ... on: July 24, 2023, 11:19:14 PM
While I would agree with the fact that gambling can definitely be abused by people, I don't agree much with the analogy you made. Tramadol while considered a drug, is way more detrimental to people's lives than gambling in my opinion. There are people who certainly threw their lives away through gambling and I only wish these people make it out of the hell hole they subjected themselves into but not only is tramadol life-disrupting, it's also deadly when used in excess.

I would advocate under the same banner as you since I sorely abhor gambling addiction, but at the same time we gotta paint a clear picture to the people we want to send the message out to so they don't mistake/misinterpret what we're trying to say.
Very well said, but you realize the tramadol analogy is just an analogy after all, I didn't use it wit a mind of trying to compare the drug to gambling or compare gambling to the drug, from what I know, being addicted to gambling could be more dangerous to some people more than being addicted to the drug, and for others, the revise might be the cause, I personally wont come to the conclusion that either addiction to the drug or addiction to gambling is more dangerous, it all depends on the individual involved, at least, I know a gambler who was addicted to gambling for just two years and later ended his life at the beginning of the third year due to a supposed mistake he made, and having been addicted to tramadol in the past myself, I know a lot of  guys who are addicted to the drug for several years now and still alive and kicking.
With that we both agree. I never meant to portray that Tramadol is more destructive than gambling mind you, just that these two things disrupt the person's life in different ways. With regular gambling there's patterns you won't see from people who's drugging themselves with Tramadol, and that's my only concern cause some people may think that these two things incur the same effects to the people which goes great if you want to scare off people from gambling, but bad if you want to make a point.

At the end of the day it still stands, gambling abuse sucks, so does substance abuse. I only wish recovery for people who have subjected themselves in these dire situations.
1277  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you consider moving abroad? on: July 24, 2023, 10:42:40 PM
I understand where you're coming from my friend, after all I was raised in a family where my dad worked abroad too. While I would understand your reservations in the field of language, I would say that's going to be the least of your worries soon as you decide to work abroad. With countries like the USA and UK being outright discriminatory against people who are not of their own race, your biggest dilemma will be how to dodge racism and discrimination, especially during the ever-increasing Asian Hate within the US territory which as the term implies, specifically caters towards discriminating and in some cases even injuring and violating Asian people, that's just one of the stuff you'd have a bigger worry than the language barrier.

Still, I'd say with the economic situations we're in it's better to eat your pride and actually do something to make your life better, which in this case is working abroad.
1278  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think selling your property is better than taking loan? on: July 24, 2023, 09:56:06 PM
I say its better to actually sell than subject yourself to a loan you'd have a hard time paying. For one, the act thereof of taking a loan when you're not even sure if you can pay it back is already a big problem my brother, since not only are you subjecting yourself to bigger financial troubles, you're also ruining your self-image against friends, family, relatives, or basically everyone who trusts you and is on your side. If you think you're not going to be able to pay it on your promised time, worst not even able to pay it at all, then might as well just find other ways to supplant your lack of money, like getting a job or actually selling your appliances like what OP's friend did. Better to inconvenience yourself than bring other people to your dilemma.
1279  Economy / Economics / Re: Fast Transportation Makes Economic Turnover Faster on: July 24, 2023, 09:39:01 PM
I'd say there has to be a balance of cost-effectiveness with travel efficiency for economic turnover to happen. Like for example, while it's certainly great to receive your pizza as soon as possible (which means more money for Domino's or whatever Pizza house you order your food from), it's pretty excessive to use high-power equipment like Jetpacks just to achieve maximum delivery efficiency yeah? Not to mention the ever-increasing price of gas too! I say it's not fast transportation that we really need. What we need is efficient roads and avenues that do not congest. The eradication of Traffic will completely solve the problem that we have with transportation and economic turnover. And how do we solve that? Commuting and Carpooling.
1280  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Elon musk is for crypto or just for attention to boost Tesla, SpaceX? on: July 24, 2023, 09:08:13 PM
Saw this news a while ago. I must say this is one of the most stupid things he has ever did so far as a belligerent CEO of multiple companies, and he's already one of the most deranged ones out there. Twitter is a multi-billion dollar brand that people painstakingly worked hard for since 2009. Not the mention the amount of acclaim and promotion that it has received over the years. To rebrand twitter for no reason besides "continuity" as all his companies had "X" in their names is just stupid and is going to cost him a lot of money in the long run. He's already bleeding cash in Twitter, and he's seeing a worthy competitor in Threads, instead of aggressively selling the benefits of Twitter over their competitor he chooses to change the brand and all that. Good luck.
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