Just sold 500 Shares, Join in on the action people  Another 250 Shares sold thats 4.76 BTC per month for only 7.98015079 BTC. Lol, few hours after sketchy posts already so many shares sold ... NO. thats 4.76 BTC per month for only 7.98015079 BTC.
Lol, offering a return of 4.76*12*5 = 285.6 BTC for 7.98015079 BTC ... NO. Payment of 69.972 BTC Made to customers, Next Payment - Tuesday 30/09/2014
Lol, within 1 day after "starting this business" already 69 BTC is paid to "customers" ... NO. Wow that was awesome .. I thought i had got in to late to get the payment, but still got it Thanks so much Wish i could afford a bigger share but will have to wait till what i get from this builds up to get some more. Lol, 1-post newbie who just registered tells them how great they are, real customer? ... NO. To get some more traffic to our site we have decided to do a signature campaign
Our rates are as follows:
Hero and Senior Members
0.25 BTC for a minimum of 50 posts per month
Lol, offering more than 2x (!!) of the "normal rates" for signatures (while active sig campaigns are limited) ... NO. OBVIOUS PONZI SCAM IS OBVIOUS |
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I definitely don't want to defend them, but if the expected profit is 7 BTC and the real profit is 34 BTC that can be very easily variance too  |
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I voted "Keep things the way they are" before I realized how many domain topics this "liteon" has. Personally I think each domain seller can just make 1 topic and merge all the domains in 1 topic. I am actually interested in buying domains and that would be more easy for me too.
But yeh, currently the Auctions forum is indeed not good. One of following 2 must happen indeed imo:
- domain sub-forum (generally I don't like the idea of too many sub-forums)
- force same user to sell all domains in 1 topic (at least not 100 like now)
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For the gambler provably fair only means you have a tool to verify your bets. If they were skipping nonces, changing server seeds, etc you would still be cheated. Only if you check all your bets, you can find out that you were (or not) cheated. For the investor there is no way at all to verify anything. In theory it is very easy for the owner to fake a winning whale with the server seeds (or just small winners .. every day.) I actually started a discussion about that https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774458 "Provably fair for investors?", but the only solutions so far are not really provably fair, just slightly less risk. |
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It was a P2P transfer on PRCdice, AKCoin is a known dice whale (won 80+ BTC last ~2 days on PRC) and multiple people were there, so it did really happen  |
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On your left it says "Inbox", "Starred", etc. Click on the one that says "More" and then "Spam" and look there.
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Yes.
He said he will use it partly for repayment tomorrow, so I hope so.
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AKCoin manages to get the site in negative profit (-1.54 BTC) again. His personal profit on PRC in ~2 days is now +83.64 BTC! Nice!
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At least the first ~30 days, the sold account will be considered as "joint account" (so the seller and buyer are both owner as far as Seals knows - even if you change password.) This means that the new account of the seller and the sold account, cannot ever play at the same time during this time (even if different game.) If this does happen and it's reported, you risk getting both accounts banned, krill reset and/or funds frozen.
Basically if you buy or sell an account you have to realize the rules and make sure you -both- follow them. It is perfectly possible though, especially if the seller stops playing at Seals and/or if the buyer only use it for the krillrolls the first month.
You make it sound very formalized, as if it's written up somewhere for us to read. Is that actually the case? rmanteu asked about it in email some months ago, my interpretation of the rules are mainly from the email replies of Seals. You can read those here: http://grindabit.com/forums/topic/message-from-seals-support-and-my-response/There are no real official rules though, except for: Seals With Clubs does permit players to have multiple accounts/usernames as long as only one is used in play at a time.
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Seals With Clubs does not condone, acknowledge, or help with account purchases or transfers of ownership. https://sealswithclubs.eu/seals-faq/#multi-account |
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At least the first ~30 days, the sold account will be considered as "joint account" (so the seller and buyer are both owner as far as Seals knows - even if you change password.) This means that the new account of the seller and the sold account, cannot ever play at the same time during this time (even if different game.) If this does happen and it's reported, you risk getting both accounts banned, krill reset and/or funds frozen.
Basically if you buy or sell an account you have to realize the rules and make sure you -both- follow them. It is perfectly possible though, especially if the seller stops playing at Seals and/or if the buyer only use it for the krillrolls the first month.
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Dean, I just found another bug on the website. Can we solve the bug bounty publicly? EDIT: It might not be considered a bug. But anyways Dean has made it open after my email. So here it is . Usually when you type in a new client seed, then the nonce should reset to 0. But it does not happen on PRC. meaning if you type in a new client seed when you are at nonce 5, of the previous seed, then the new client seed starts from nonce 5. This can create confusion for people verifying bets. On other sites, it usually resets, but again its not wrong if Dean programs it this way. Just pointing it out. actually, you wouldn't want the nonce to restart to 0 if you just update the client seed? That is because the server seed doesn't change. IF the server seed changed if you changed the client seed, then the nonce should be able to reset. as then you're guaranteed new random rolls. If you were able to change the client seed but keep the server seed the same, AND reset the nonce, you could roll a few times on one seed, check the results, change the client seed 2x (once to a new one, then once to the old one) and the nonce would reset, and you would know the roll results? i could have the provably fair stuff wrong tho Correct, that would be a serious security issue. Make 10 rolls with client seed "test". Change client seed to "test2" to reset nonce. Change back to "test" and know the next 10 rolls In theory you could disallow the same client seed + server seed combination, but I think it's fine like this. |
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Yeh, JoeMattie is well known on almost all dice sites. He is known for winning (and losing) 20 - 100 btc easily. Replying with " dude - just stop" sounds a bit sketchy. I don't know JoeMattie personally at all, but, considering his gamble reputation, him going from 1.5 > 25 seems definitely possible to me. If he requests for full transparency to solve this issue, I don't see the problem with that. Hope it gets resolved I do think Dice sites checking things before big withdrawals are fine. |
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Lol xD Yeh after demanding money upfront and then publicly disclosure it before it's fixed. Better read a bit at sites like http://crowdcurity.com (offers bug bounty programs for LocalBitcoins, BlockChain.info, etc.) and see how much they would pay if you report bugs this way xD Honestly finnile, I just think you made the mistake of reporting it like this. "Cover up" would obviously not happen since you have screenshots. If you would have not requesting money "now" and didn't publicly disclosure it before it was fixed, you would have got your bounty. If not, even I as longtime PRC member, would have complained. It is an important ui/cache bug though, so good it will be fixed and I hope there will be an API for bets anyway, that would be always good Edit, BTW, I have a topic with an Overview of Bug Bounty Programs for Bitcoins if any bounty hunters are reading this. Payment will be afterwards though and some programs don't even allow any disclosure. |
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If the hot wallet still has funds, yes. But because Dean (the owner of PRC) really limits the hot wallet (which for security reasons is good IMO), it does happen frequently that the hot wallet is empty (1 whale w/d ) So then you will have to wait up to 12 hours, although it's more like 1 hour max if Dean is online and otherwise like up to 6 hours if he is sleeping |
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Minimum withdrawal (฿): 0.01
AFAIK there are no withdrawal miner/transaction fees. I assume if he would implement a 0.0001 fee (like all bitcoin transactions), he might remove the minimum limit.
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Nothing much :p Dean not yet online, was online earlier but went away for a bit (like he normally also sometimes does), so I expect him to come online soon and then restart it / look what the problem is |
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Yes, site down. Those who were still connected can still chat/gamble so that connection/server still alive. Anyway we are just waiting for Dean to come online and fix it |
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