Did you read?  He owed 120 BTC he intends to pay 20 BTC of that.  Even if he is being honest your expectation wouldn't be 0.93 it would be 0.93 * (20/120) = 0.155 BTC. 

Will you be happy with 0.155 BTC? Is that helpful?  Should people stop "bashing" a scammer now?

Normally it is best off.

If cgminer detects a share is stale it doesn't submit it.  Those shares are marked SS.
Share submitted and designated invalid by pool are marked R.

IF cgminer stale detection is correct then SS + R should be exactly the same w/ submit stale on or off.

Turning submit stale on simply takes all the SS shares, sends them to the server who promptly rejects then.
SS = 0 and R = (SS + R)

There are a few instances where it might make sense
a) merged mining pool which gives seperate credit for NMC & BTC (not just calculate NMC reward based on BTC shares).  In that case an LP doesn't necessarily make both chains stale.  A share could be stale for one chain and not the other.

b) p2pool.  p2pool builds a share chain just like bitcoin builds a blockchain.  Since there can be re-orgs it is often useful to submit a stale share.  If a re-org occurs (and with a 10 sec block time it certainly can) then what cgminer thinks is stale could end up being valid.

TL/DR version: unless you have a specific reason you likely can keep it off.  It can't "hurt" you to turn it on you will just see more rejects at the pool level instead of SS at cgminer level.

*cough*  I have bought cables from CablesSaurus, and eBay, and from other places.  The ones from CableSaurus are the EXACT same cables that I bought in bulk on eBay.  The ONLY benefit CableSaurus has is the fact you can pay in BTC, for a 30% mark up.

It's for the very rare occasion where cgminer might miss an opportunity to score a share when it thinks it is already stale and doesn't send it out but the pool would have accepted it.
The SS counter in cgminer windows tells you how many times cgminer didn't bother with sending a calculated share.

You can't cheat any pool because if the share is indeed stale, the pool will just classify it as such.

P2pool is specific because it uses a much higher difficulty than the rest of the pools, therefore all shares are of a much higher value.


Conman, I don't feel like delving through the code right now but wasn't the fact that --submit-stale influences Utility the reason it's off by default?
I mean the situation where a share that would otherwise be locally discarded gets sent out increasing the rating even though that share gets tossed away by the pool?

This is no longer necessary with the latest cgminer since p2pool will send the message "submitold" which cgminer now supports, so it will do it selectively for p2pool anyway.  

No, I'm not far from Seattle..

No, it's that price everywhere around here. If it was stolen it would be free..

So, 7770 is 1.5 times slower than 5770?   What a waste of money on this junk.

That's what I pay, I doubt I'm the only one..

Might want to read the thread. We still have to deal with 8 gpu driver limit.

Here's another numbers run, for a 15 hour period to 15:06 CST today. Inaba mentioned there are some issues with his unit that are causing throttling.

@Inaba, have you had a chance to try the ufasoft miner to see if the unit behaves the same? It might provide clues on whether this is a cgminer-only issue, or if it is a fundamental issue with the unit.

@kano, you had mentioned earlier that you were doing some work on icarus support in cgminer; have you seen anything in the code that might suggest a reason for the observed throttling behavior?

start: 00:08CST, shares 70949
end: 15:06CST, shares 79630

So we have:
15:06 - 00:08 = 14h58m = 53880s
79630 - 70949 = 8681 shares
8681 shares * 2^32 hashes per share = 3.73e13 hashes
3.73e13 hashes / 53880s = 692Mhps

Clarification:

I have shipped extenders (the regular cables) to Goat. Not one of these splitter I'm still waiting for my own to arrive.

BigPiggy has sent stuff from China to me in the past. I think he might be able to help you.

What the hell am I going to do with that??

As the last two days revealed only two new converts to the True Way of Freddie, and I only bought the dignity of users until today, I thought it would slowly fizzle as users eventually turn away from His great image. Only one member set their icon back after getting their money, the rest of us can take our place next to Jr. in the light of greatness.

I have been touched by his teeny appendage: Added 0.5 BTC to the bounty to get the default new member avatar set to Freddie Jr.