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1561  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the perception of people about gamblers in your neighborhood? on: January 01, 2024, 03:08:47 AM
Basically I think in general for most people (not just one area) have a negative point of view on gambling including in my own area, I can confirm that because we are talking about gambling which is an activity that requires the allocation of money to be involved with the aim of betting and looking for the final result whether winning or losing, on the other hand if gambling is not about profit - profit then obviously the public's point of view will not be negative, but however something based on luck is always difficult to predict the end result which means it has the potential to increase money and lose money.

But overall gamblers experience  more losses than wins because bookmakers build casinos with the aim of their own profits so it is only natural that it is very difficult for gamblers to be in a lucky situation in a row. Gambling has the potential for addiction which will certainly make gamblers even more addicted and curious about the final result and that curiosity will make them continue to try their luck which is very difficult to get because as I said luck is always unpredictable so gamblers experience a lot of money loss and because of that impact one of which makes the public's perspective on gambling very negative.
1562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for fun, is it a lie that we tell ourselves? on: January 01, 2024, 02:29:20 AM
Do you think that rich people don't gamble? If you think so, you are wrong. And do you think that they gamble to win money? Of course not, because they already have a lot of money and they don't need to earn money from gambling as they have enough sources of income already. So, they gamble just for fun and they consider it an activity of the rich as they often tend to choose to do what requires a lot of money so that they can show the world that they are rich and they can afford a very expensive lifestyle.

So, it depends on one's financial ability and their mindset about gambling in general, and that mindset is often a result of the financial capabilities of a person, which means that if you are rich and can afford it, you will just enjoy gambling, but if you are not rich and still gambling, it means you are looking for money through it.

I fully agree wit you, there are rich as there are poor people that enjoy gambling. It doesn't really depend on how much money we have, because gambling is usually possible and small sizes. So, everybody can choose how much money he is willing to bet with. Rich people have the exact same winning chances that we have, the only difference is that their bankroll is larger and they are not at risk to go broke so quickly. I believe the fun and excitement from gambling is not connected to our own personal financial situation.  Also, just visiting a physical casino can be a lot of fun without betting a lot of money ourselves. Usually people like to drink and gamble, because alcohol is either free or cheap at the casinos. The company we are with at the casinos is also important for having a good time. Just because I lost some money doesn't mean the night was a complete failure if I am with my best friends.

Yes basically everyone is free to engage in gambling, rich or poor it doesn't matter as long as they come with money that will be used as capital with the smallest or middle or highest amount that has been applied to the minimum and maximum deposit on the gambling site, on the other hand casinos never force gamblers in terms of putting the amount to bet, all of that is optional and depends on each gambler's comfort in the matter of the amount of budget they want to allocate and healthy gamblers are those who can put the amount that suits the money they have. or I mean if they have a small income then obviously the budget allocation for gambling should also be small, and for that matter it is beyond the control of others because only they know about how much money they have, I'm not saying that rich people should put a bigger amount, and for that matter it's out of other people's control because only they know about how much they want to bet but obviously anyway it's more advisable to put an amount that we can afford to be responsible for whatever the outcome is.

That's right, in gambling everyone involved will have the same chances, especially in winning, no matter rich or poor, and also in terms of the possibility of risk occurring is also the same but maybe for the problem of the amount of defeat all gamblers will definitely be different, simply put, the defeat of the rich must be much greater than the poor because in terms of the amount of their budget is different but for the problem of bankruptcy it depends on whether they are excessive or not in gambling. Another thing for the problem of whether the financial situation will affect the pleasure of gambling activities I think it comes back to the point of view of each gambler. I think the fun that exists in a physical casino without participating in betting lies in socializing with many people because obviously there we will meet many people and maybe new things that are quite fun, enjoying drinks and chatting with other people can also be called fun.
1563  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 01, 2024, 01:48:12 AM
Arsenal results in three matches mean that they will move away from the championship and this will happen in a scenario similar to last year. Totthenham has recovered very well compared to last season. With the right transfers, if they had not had injury problems this season, they would definitely have collected more points. They are currently in fifth place and only one point away from the two teams ahead of them. Even Tottenham are more stable than Arsenal at the moment.
Indeed, it is very unfortunate, because Arsenal have lost again to middle-class clubs in a row. Yesterday's 2 - 1 defeat against Fulham was disappointing again, after their previous defeat. Even though here, Arsenal was ahead in scoring a goal in the first 5 minutes. but unfortunately after that, they were unable to score another goal, in fact the situation was reversed and they were the ones who conceded 2 goals after that. And what is quite unfortunate is that as usual, they are quite good at ball possession but are not able to attack it well. This is really lame. And it is indeed quite similar to last season's scenario where Arsenal's performance decreased even more when they were in the middle of the season. and they are now only at the fourth posiiton.

Honestly this time Arsenal really made the fans most likely to lose faith, consecutive defeats against teams that are much weaker than them are very bad results for a team like Arsenal who have always been favored in several seasons, honestly for me personally this is an unexpected result, I thought before they would be able to comeback by trying hard to get the full three points in this match to restore the confidence of the fans and also to maintain the prestige of the club after losing to West Ham 2 - 0 but apparently my assumptions and predictions were wrong.

Yes at the start of the first half especially in the 5th minute Arsenal managed to take the lead through a goal from Bukayo Saka, the lead at the start of the match made us cheer and enough to increase confidence that Arteta would not waste this match to catch Manchester City in third place along with staying away from Tottenham's pursuit, but yes as you said it's a shame that Arsenal couldn't catch up at all in the second half, for the problem of possession I honestly saw them pretty good but yes their main problem is on the blunt front line so of course it's hard to take advantage of every opportunity.
1564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers understood the game on: January 01, 2024, 01:27:25 AM
Unless there is someone who is familiar with gambling before but just wants to learn to gamble with other types of bets and you can teach him some games that he doesn't know.
Like some time ago my friend came to my house to ask about online gambling because he was only gambling to buy lottery tickets and wanted to know how to gamble online like poker slots etc.

if they have ever gambled or are currently actively gambling, we no longer invite them. Gambling sharing is a commons, if we already know that the person is an active gambler, this situation is similar with our discussion here in this forum. If they ask about the game, I can give any explanations as far as he is a active gambler. But I personally would not suggest any games and would not ask him to try the games let he doing by himself, because after all I would feel bad if I suggested a games and caused that person to lose, even though he was playing with conscience and own responsibility.

Yes and usually it happens to our friends, or I mean usually most people who ask to be taught how to gamble are people who are familiar or even very close, because basically gambling has a negative viewpoint in the eyes of society and that is the reason some people do not ask people they don't know (not close) to teach them to gamble. If for example the situation is as you say that they already realize that they are one of the gamblers then we don't need to give any advice unless they ask or experience problems such as frozen accounts or unprocessed withdrawals at one of the casinos they are involved in then we can share advice, it doesn't matter.

Maybe it seems that I will also do the same as you, in the sense that I will not tell them to enter some of the games that I like for example because obviously they are not necessarily comfortable with the game and maybe I will only introduce it without telling them to try it, because for that matter they also have their own choices. Basically every gambler has a different approach or way or favorite game, so there is a point if we prefer not to suggest let alone force, because the fear is like what you said, it could be that when they lose the game then they will come to us to question.
1565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not everyone deserves to hear of your winning in gambling. on: December 31, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
That's true there are many selfish people around us who are getting jealous from the others success so if we think about this cost then yes not everyone deserve to hair a person winning in gambling.  I will also say one thing that there are also lot of people that who learn wrong think and become addicted on gambling for saying others success. So I am agree with your words that not everyone deserve to hear your winning in gambling.

That's true, and it has become commonplace in society that someone can become selfish and jealous of seeing other people's success and this also makes someone try to get the same success as other people.
It would be better if we were successful in gambling, it would be better if we just kept quiet because that is the best step so that later we don't cause problems for other people because the nature of social jealousy is different for each person and of course the success we receive is not necessarily acceptable. by other people. .

Honestly for myself I would not say that it is success but rather a victory that they get for the luck they get in the gambling session they do so that they can get a number of wins, on the other hand we have to distinguish victory from success because in gambling I think there is no word success but only winning because of luck. Moving on to the topic, from what you said of course it could be a possibility for people to feel jealous of the wins that other people or even their own friends managed to get so as the OP said that it has the potential to make them feel motivated to join in hoping to get the same fate as those who managed to win.

But it's not that easy, simply put in terms of gambling someone will not be able to follow the luck or the number of wins that other people have managed to get, the point is all about winning and losing and for the problem of when you will win and how much victory you will get all that is still gray - gray. And obviously I agree to the point of what you said that if indeed we managed to get a win then it is better not to tell others and enjoy it alone, except maybe telling some of the closest people like friends actually it can't be avoided. 
1566  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's Your Feeling After You Finish Gambling. on: December 31, 2023, 07:48:35 PM
When I finish my session, the feeling that I can get will depend on the outcome of my game. If I end up tripling or more my money, I will feel happy. But if it was the opposite, I will be depressed. Their duration will depend on the amount involved but most of the times, they can only last within an hour.

Of course, for the problem of feelings really can't be lied to, as you said if you end the session with a win with any amount of money increase then obviously the feeling you feel must be happy especially if the amount of budget you bring up to 10x for example, sensation and happiness will dominate at the end of the session. But if on the other hand, if you lose then I think even if you only bring a negligible amount then surely at least a sense of disappointment will definitely be there and usually if gamblers cannot manage themselves when they are in such a situation then usually they will return to re-depositing with the intention of revenge and chasing the break-even point.

But in gambling it will not always be that easy to return something that has been lost, therefore it is always recommended to be able to accept all the possibilities that can occur at the end, not only for victory but we must also be able to accept the risk of defeat, simply put we must be able to be a responsible gambler. Another thing is that for myself, honestly, the duration of pleasure I get usually only lasts until the winning money runs out.
1567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling all about luck? on: December 31, 2023, 05:15:07 PM

Better to have that kind of mindset, as luck is never accurate I mean, you can't assure that it will be there in each gambling session that you participate, the way you express your opinion is valid it's best to have decent job instead of hoping for luck to come and make your bets win, though we all know that there are people who loves to take that big risk and hope that aside from luck that mostly influence the outcome but also the knowledge that they acquire with the gambling experienced that they participate each time they place their bets.

It also help them not just to lean with luck but also with the assessment and good research with the game they are playing, they might have that opportunity to win in gambling.

It is true that such a mindset and point of view is more advisable to apply to the gambling they do, emphasizing and convincing themselves that the workings of luck are always unpredictable, in my opinion by learning to understand luck and applying it to gambling activities it will further minimize actions that are out of control or that are not recommended. I understand that victory will definitely be obtained but the problem here is that it is not that easy to get it because you will not always get luck in every gambling session. For myself honestly this activity is just to fill empty time when I'm off work and without expecting any winnings, and also yes it's true buddy that it's better to find another job that is more certain in terms of income, or that promises to give them a monthly salary to make ends meet, hoping that winning from gambling will only get you into a lot of trouble because obviously in terms of risk is far greater than the chances of winning.




Yes we can't fully depend on gambling because it's can't be our main source of income. No one know that what is going to happened in future especially in gambling. We must do job of business or other work for main income source become that will complete our daily needs. On the other side luck is with you every time that's the reason no one tell that you are going to big loss or big win in future. If you win then ok but when the losses is huge then that create problem that's the reason we must do other work beside gambling.

Only people who come with the wrong understanding will assume like that and make gambling their main place of income, the fact is that they only look at one side, namely the chances of winning and do not consider the consequences of losing which is clearly more common and higher in percentage than the chances of winning. Why is gambling so prohibited to be used as a place of income? Obviously you have also said one of the reasons is because we will never be able to predict when luck will come and of course in addition it is better for us to look for certainty, or that means looking for other jobs that can provide guarantees in terms of earning to meet daily needs.

We must understand that winning in gambling always remains dependent on your luck while on the other hand needs cannot be tolerated, simply put if you need something in terms of the necessities of life then obviously at that time you must have money to spend, whereas what if you lose in gambling at the same time? obviously it will make you unable to fulfill your life needs and will only cause a lot of money problems, so with that I hope to be able to think more realistically in seeing something new.
1568  Economy / Gambling / Re: Responsible gambling on: December 31, 2023, 04:31:09 PM
Among them are people who are good at managing time, managing finances, managing their thoughts and managing their mentality in gambling so that the gambling they do has boundaries or safe principles for themselves, or can be said not to have compulsive and impulsive traits when they gamble. know when to stop gambling, so that there is conducive self-control and money control.

responsible gamblers in my opinion are those who have the things you mentioned, first time, people who are responsible for their gambling they will not use a long time in gambling, it is likely that they gamble with a certain time limit, whether they win or not if they have reached the time limit they will stop and leave gambling,. secondly finances, they can manage their finances well, divide finances evenly, by having a set budget they will gamble with a set budget, and when they lose they don't deposit again, because the budget has been set.

And apart from that they must have a good mind, because those who gamble responsibly will not gamble excessively, it is likely that they will gamble properly, where they gamble reasonably will not do gambling that is out of their control that can harm them quickly.
1569  Economy / Gambling / Re: Slot Educational on: December 31, 2023, 04:11:06 PM
It all matters about your mindset and your own control towards yourself with gambling because if you are an individual whose really that serious or really that mindful when it comes on quitting gambling
then you would definitely quit up on point but if you are really that already getting addicted through it then quitting or stopping would really be that completely a hard thing to be done.
We do know that once addiction had already shackled you then it would really be that so damn hard to quit no matter what you do.You would really be needing that extreme discipline and control
when it comes on stopping gambling for good but if you do see  that it isnt really affecting you in negative way then i dont see the reason for you to stop.
This is only into those people who had been experiencing those hardships when it comes to finances.

It's true, in my opinion it's the mindset that must be addressed, because someone who gambles and is addicted to it is because of their wrong mindset, where they think gambling is easy to get profitable wins, so they have positive thoughts towards gambling, but unfortunately it all just makes them get into trouble in their lives so many people have their lives ruined because of gambling addiction. if only they had a good mindset, maybe they wouldn't become addicted to gambling.

Apart from that, many of them gamble without having discipline, if they gamble with discipline, maybe they will not experience gambling addiction, but no one knows what someone will become addicted to. many people are addicted to gambling because they are not disciplined in gambling, because when they lose they don't stop, but they make another deposit to gamble again with the aim of recovering the losses they have received and this happens a lot so it has become a case that is no longer strange among gamblers.
1570  Economy / Economics / Re: Learn to use DEBT in a proper way to create asset on: December 31, 2023, 03:51:15 PM
When you take debt, you should pay the debt from the loan taken and the only way you can do that is to make money out of that debt. A debt should only be taken to invest. This sounds easy to say but it's very hard. Especially for those who have an opportunity to take loans easily. It requires a lot of discipline to not borrow money when you need money for consumption.
I feel the only time we should borrow money for consumption is for health emergencies and life and death issues.
But as someone who works and make money, you should have planned for emergencies like that

When you get comfortable with taking debt for consumption, it becomes very easy to fall really deep into debt  and that can make you not to make any money because all your money would go to paying off debt

someone who has a good mindset, when he has a business idea or business as well as an investment, and he doesn't have enough funds to do the thing he wants to do, then he takes out a loan in my opinion of course they have thought about everything when they take the loan action money, I think they are very confident that the business they are going to run can generate profits, therefore they dare to take out a loan to carry out something they want.

Sometimes there are people who don't have permanent jobs and they have financial problems because they are forced to take out loans to buy their needs, and this is normal, but I don't know what happens to those who don't have jobs but have debts. that has to be paid off, maybe they can just wait for a miracle to happen, but I think they have to look for a clear job so they can get a steady income, because it's not just for themselves, the debt they have to pay off is also their responsibility.
1571  Economy / Economics / Re: Business failure among small-scale entrepreneurs on: December 31, 2023, 03:30:05 PM
Its never been easy to build up a business on which there's no assurance in speaking about success and other stuffs on which it would really be that not that simple because of other factors which would really affect out when it comes to success. Failure is one of the risks involved once you do hover yourself or step your foot into this industry. Small-scale on which this is where everything is starting because no business would really be starting on being big, unless if its been inherited or being sold to someone then you could start up directly to be big but of course the cost wont really be that cheap and also people would really be preferring on starting up on scratch because they do really know on how to make things to handle since from the start.
That's the problem because building a thriving business is not an easy job and we are required to be able to keep up with the times. Business must also be seen through consumer suitability, for example when we want to open a certain business, the first step we must take is to look at opportunities, whether the business we want to develop has a market that we can target. If not, the business will be quite difficult for us to develop into a more advanced one. I believe that building a business is not easy because it requires patience in the process.

We will definitely experience the risk of failure and loss of basic capital when building a business, but how can we survive when we first start building it? Businesspeople have reserve capital as a form of development and this capital is used when initially building it and when everything runs stable, that's where we can take advantage.

in my opinion someone who starts a business of course has to learn a lot first with what they are going to do, they can learn in many ways, especially with now increasingly sophisticated technology making everything easy to access, if they really want to value a business of course they can learn from the internet, and from the internet there must be a lot that can be made into lessons for the business they are going to run. if they have a good mindset they will take advantage of current technological developments, and this is what they should be able to use to find additional knowledge related to the business they are going to run. despite that, before starting a business they have to prepare everything well, from the management of goods or products, also with marketing later that must be done well, because the products they produce must be marketed well, and with this not all of them have a good mindset.

apart from that, before starting a business they have to prepare everything well, from the management of goods or products, also with marketing later that must be done well, because the products they produce must be marketed well, and with this not everyone has skills in marketing, if they really want to learn to market their products they must look for sources that have good marketing techniques, because marketing is also important, because as far as I know usually a business that has difficulties in its business is due to poor marketing, so this also needs attention.
1572  Economy / Economics / Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way on: December 31, 2023, 03:10:10 PM
the main thing before marriage is to have an income. without income whatever is done about the motivation for financial management will not work.
because there is no money to manage, because there is no income at all.
parents must have given a good education from school to college. so then the matter of work and financial management must go alone because they are adults.
marriage is not about love, but marriage needs a life to feed his wife and children.

I think so too, it would be nice before marriage, we as men must have a job with a clear income, because after marriage of course the aspect of needs will increase economically or financially. although there are people who get married who do not have a permanent job, I don't think we should make that an example that we can get married even though we don't have a job, because it's good in my opinion to have a job that has a fixed income that is better than not having a permanent tang job.

Although there are also some who assume that after marriage it can bring its own income, we should not make it an excuse for not having a job, because everyone has a different fate, so it is impossible for someone to have the same fate as someone else, also with those who already have a permanent job and are married, of course they have to manage their finances well, because if they cannot manage their finances well, it is likely that they will get problems from their finances. because not a few people get divorced because of their financial problems that are not managed properly.
1573  Economy / Economics / Re: A career - as an employee or a business owner which do you prefer and why? on: December 31, 2023, 02:50:47 PM
The problem with the career of a salaried employee is that he can always be fired, and then because of competition or age he will no longer be able to get a similarly paid position. A business owner - if he has successfully found his niche, he is more firmly established on his feet. Of course, the risk of the business owner is greater, but there are also many advantages
Just that sometime in life working as a salary earner is just like a work of boundage that you can be earning the same amount of salary for a long time and if at all it is increased due to promotion their won't be much difference. One can just remain here all through hus/her career receiving peanut while their are better things that one can do with it his/ her life to grow financially to make good amount money. I don't Really like salary jobs because it can close the doors for other opportunities to make money.
Some people choose to have a job that earns a steady income because they will be able to easily manage the expenses they need, but for those who choose to work like that, I think it will be very difficult for them to earn additional income because the place they work of course has working hours. which requires work, in other words, we are very tied up and it is very difficult to find additional income.

I agree with you, having a salaried job or a permanent job will prevent us from being able to earn the income we want. This is very different from freelancing which is not tied to anything, we can work whatever we can to get the income we want. want and this is really very enjoyable and if we want a lot of income of course we have to be able to work hard to be able to have a lot of income.

It's not wrong, because everyone has their own choices. because if indeed the job generates enough income to support them every day then it's not a problem, but there are times when later they will also need more income, so they have to get out of their comfort zone, because usually people who have jobs with a fixed income they are already stuck in a zone that makes them comfortable so they don't want to leave that zone, but if the situation is urgent their needs, I think inevitably they have to look for side jobs to increase their income.

someone who wants to have more income or a lot, of course they have to have more than 1 job and this can be done if they still have the energy to do other jobs apart from their main job, because there are people who have a lot of free time from their main job they choose to relax, because they don't want to be more tired, but maybe with people who have ambition in pursuing income they will not care about the fatigue, maybe they will continue to work hard for satisfying results. But my advice is that if you do have a business or side job, don't let this make them tortured, in the sense that they must also have enough time to rest.
1574  Economy / Economics / Re: New business idea. on: December 31, 2023, 02:26:29 PM
It sounds so interesting and seems like a business that will be lucrative but I feel going into a business like this getting equipment in which the oil can be extracted from the groundnut, but if thier is an easy way which the oil can be extracted it will be good idea, I think this oil can be useful in beverages and other foods . It is very hard to see people who are into this business in a small way. Groundnut oil business will be a reasonable investment because this is a product that is needed in most of the food we eat daily.  It won't be a bad business idea.
If the business idea is not bad, I think it is worth trying because I personally have never tried it and have never even seen anyone implementing such a business in the past. So this needs to be tried if it looks good and can also be very profitable and I also very rarely hear that the peanut oil business can be a very good investment for all people. That's why new things like this need to be tried to see the results, whether they are really profitable, or just ordinary level profits because profits are usually born from the large number of people interested in a product, even if it is a new product.
To start any business ,we can't say it will be successful in future. Business success mostly depends on luck,luck plays important role in every success.I see many people at the peak and at the ground.I see Many who invested on Russian Salid business ,but he didn't successful in this business and after in the same area, another person started the same business ,he invested a little amount of money but he is successful in my area and he is respected by a lot of people. In my opinion,luck plays vital role in every field of life.First person invested a lot but he didn't see the need and choice of people,he cannot get success but after little investment gave a unique taste to people and get became successful.

Do you think someone who runs a business and its success only depends on luck? even if they do their best for their business, does it only depend on luck?
I think not, because in my opinion someone who runs a business of course they must want success, and success depends on how they manage their business, if they manage their business well, chances are they will be successful, because as far as I know success is in people who want to try and struggle and work hard, not with success in favor of those who are lucky. if success sides with those who are lucky, it will make them have the principle of "no need to work hard, because if we are lucky we will be successful", is that appropriate to sound?

I don't think so my friend, luck does not have a big role in terms of success, someone who wants to be successful of course they have to go through various processes, it's impossible for him to just stand still and because of luck he becomes successful, it's very beyond reason.
1575  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Answer this Gambling Question on Duration of Joy after a win or loss on: December 30, 2023, 10:54:16 PM
I am curious, how long does this joy last after a win or a loss—does it linger until your next bet, lasting the whole day, just 20 minutes, or perhaps 2 hours?

For a win, the joy will last for as long as you have the money from your win. Immediately the money is exhausted and finishes, you will be hit with the reality of the situation that you are back to square one, that terminates joy. For a loss, the sadness will persist if the loss has cost you a lot, maybe you have lost money you should have used for something else and you do not have a replacement. Immediately you get a replacement, the sadness of loosing is forgotten.

That's right, the excitement will usually only last when the money from the winnings we still have or that means it hasn't run out, but on the other hand I think the excitement of the sensation of winning that you managed to get will also still last even though the money has run out, and usually all the excitement will disappear when you try to gamble again with hope and also with a little imagining the previous winning situation but it turns out that the results are losing and that's where the upset and emotions will usually appear.

After that everything will return to the starting point where if you want to win again then you have to be lucky but on the other hand it is not easy to get lucky like before, especially if you use your last money. Therefore, to minimize irritation and emotion for myself honestly when I do manage to get a win then usually I will save some of the money for gambling capital at a later time and some of it to enjoy, and if indeed in the next gambling session I lose then I will not be too emotional because the money lost is money from previous winnings and not money out of personal pockets. But on the other hand, I honestly feel that the money from gambling winnings really seems to run out very quickly and it's hard to remember where it went. Do you feel that way too?Cheesy
1576  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: mengapa banyak kaum muda enggan berhasa daerah? on: December 30, 2023, 10:34:32 PM
agar orang mudah memahami.
misal anda tinggal di jakarta pakai bahasa daerah sendiri yang anda ajak bicara pasti ga paham n bengong saja.
kecuali anda tinggal di daerah sendiri ya lebih bagus pakai bahasa daerah n bahasa lokal

Nah bener sederhananya seperti yang agan sampaikan, anak2 muda zaman sekarang  lebih memilih menggunakan bahasa indonesia/nasional bukan hanya untuk gaya aja tapi disisi lain juga memang tuntutan dari situasi, seperti yang agan sampaikan dan itu bener bgt apalagi untuk orang2 yang kerja di peratauan mau gak mau pasti mereka harus bisa menyesuaikan diri dengan keadaan sama situasi dalam hal komunikasi, tetapi di luar itu kalo memang kita hidup masih di lingkungan sekitar atau maksudnya masih di daerah sendiri maka jelas lebih baik tetap menggunakan bahasa daerah untuk mempertahankan kelestariannya, tetapi disisi lain yang jadi masalahnya akhir2 ini gak sedikit juga orang tua yang ngajarin anak2nya dari sejak kecil buat memakai bahasa nasional dan juga membiasakannya, untuk masalah ini menurut saya di luar kendali individu dan mungkin kita serahkan saja pada pemerintah yang lebih berhak dan yang mungkin mengerti gimana ngatasinnya.
1577  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online or offline gambling which is more safer? on: December 30, 2023, 08:21:35 PM
I don't think you can just conclude that online gambling is more likely to have a greater potential for addiction, what is certain in my opinion is that in terms of the impact of gambling, online or offline, everything is still at risk and the question is, can you keep your gambling safe? Gambling addiction always starts with how the person treats or responds to his gambling activities, if you come with a low level of understanding of what gambling actually is along with the opportunities and risks that are there then obviously the possibility of addiction can always be closer, whether you are involved in online or offline casinos.

So you can't just look at it from one side that offline casinos won't cost you as much money, however at the end of the day as I said before it all comes back to how a person addresses and treats the gambling activity itself, even if they are involved in offline casinos if they basically always overdo it then obviously the potential for addiction is significant and the number of losses is definitely large. So if you want to be safe without losing anything then it is better not to touch gambling because this is a game of probability and risk. Wink
1578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: December 30, 2023, 07:59:24 PM
I don't think I would gamble if I didn't have enough money. although I know this sounds very impossible for gambling addicts because they are really addicted to all of this. I just don't gamble excessively, maybe my gambling is mostly just an object of research into how gambling is rather than just seeking wealth. I prefer that I have experience about gambling so that I have a topic to talk about with my friends.

Yes, maybe there are people who have a mindset like you and prefer not to gamble if they don't have money, but sometimes there are also gamblers who are in the same position as you who gamble with the intention of earning, so this confirms that Many gamblers come as a result of encouragement  from poor financial conditions so they come with the aim of multiplying the money they bring in even if it is a small amount. Lack of understanding or misunderstanding in the gambling perspective makes them come with the wrong mindset such as assuming that "gambling is a good place to make money" especially if at the beginning of their involvement they manage to win then obviously the level of hope  and confidence will be higher.

For someone who has  entered the addiction zone, they will not care what their financial condition is, they will only stop when their money runs out and even more than that, which means usually loan services become one of their alternatives to be able to return to gambling until many new problems arise. like being in debt. On the other hand, it doesn't matter if you really want to gamble as long as you understand the actual concept of gambling and how luck works, because then I think it is unlikely that you will act outside of common sense.
1579  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 30, 2023, 07:31:53 PM

They are 6 points away from the club in the top 4 currently occupied by Leipzig. That's a pretty tiring distance to chase, but considering the number of matches remaining in the Bundesliha there are still a lot of points that are still very much in the chase. I think to be in the top 4 is still very doable, but I doubt if chasing the top of the table, because their point gap is now far away, and with the appearance of the club that occupies the top position, it looks like an impossible thing to do.
Indeed in football nothing is impossible, as long as there is still a chance as long as they still have a chance, but we also have to be realistic with what is happening at this time. Moreover, the ones they are chasing are also among the clubs that dominated the league for more than a decade.

Dortmund is in the 5th position right now. The past few weeks have been pretty bad for them. In the last 5 matches, they have only 1 win. They have 3 draws and one loss other than that. That is definitely not good enough from them. Now if I were asked if they will be able to finish in the top four or not, I would probably say that it is possible, and maybe even probable. But the way they are performing right now, it doesn't seem like they will be able to have consistent performance in recent future. So I wouldn't be so confident about them as well.

Yes it is true, Dortmund's performance lately is quite a concern, usually we see that they are always competing at the top of the standings with Bayern Munich in the race for the title, but specifically this season there really is a change that might be said to be quite significant from this team. As you said and it's a fact that in the last five matches they were only able to win one win three draws and one loss, honestly on the other hand what I think is unexpected is when they played in their last match against Mainz, although sharing points but honestly it's really a bad result for a team like Dortmund who is clearly favored when dealing with a team that is almost in the relegation zone.

On the other hand for the problem of what position they will finish I think I can't be sure yet, as you said the fourth position is something they might be able to get, although it is quite doubtful but I think it looks like they can finish in fourth position because after all there are still quite a lot of opportunities that they can take advantage of. Next up they play Darmstadt, overall they should be able to get full points against a team at the bottom of the table, but there's no denying that a bad result like the one against Mainz in the previous game is still possible.
1580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: December 30, 2023, 07:09:19 PM
If gambling is bad - why you gamble? Why you show bad example for everyone around you?  Grin
We really shouldn't set an example for anyone around us, especially children, because a child will quickly learn what he sees, let alone played by his own parents, so he will think that it is a fun game and will try the game outside without his parents knowing because The child will store the memory in his memory. I think it is a bad example that should not be shown to anyone so it is best to never gamble in front of children.

Parents are one of the people who have a big influence on a child and of course parents are also a child's main concern in any case because it is clear that parents always direct and teach their children in any case, especially nature and behavior, and if a child sees his parents involved in gambling activities then obviously a child will at least question with a high level of curiosity about what exactly his parents are doing, Even though it is unlikely for them to directly plunge and get involved, if their parents always show their gambling activities, whether intentionally or not, it will still trigger children's curiosity to be higher and there is a high possibility that there is potential for them to do the same thing, or the intention is to follow what their parents do.

A child will not immediately know that it is gambling but what comes to their mind is "it looks like fun", as we know that lately children are more often playing cell phones connected to the internet network, I used to see them watching cartoon videos and on the other hand online gambling promotions are increasingly circulating on several social media and obviously the chances are getting greater for a child to enter and get involved in one of the online casinos they find when playing cell phones. The point is that parents must be able to limit their activities, some are allowed to be shown and some must be kept out of the reach of children.
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