Of course, I think you are not the only one who is so surprised by the speed of change experienced by Leverkusen that you say that this difference is like night and day if we compare them now and last season, I agree with that  idea because clearly I think it is the same There was absolutely no previous indication shown by Leverkusen at the end of last season about changes this season.

Truly unexpectedly, Leverkusen management was not wrong in choosing a new coach to replace Gerardo Seoane, since the arrival of Their competitors are top  class teams and are always favored by most people. On the other hand, to be honest, I just hope they can maintain their  consistency until the end of the season because it will definitely be very interesting when we see a new, very strong team involved in hot competition to break Bayern Munich's dominance.

The problem is that awareness will not be easy to achieve when basically in their little hearts they still hope for a victory, maybe you also know that in every session there will always be things that look like tempting when it is nothing but a trap to keep them there, and if basically they still have hope then it is obviously very difficult to think realistically to encourage awareness even though they already know that losing situations always occur at the end of the session or that means disappointing results always dominate.

It is obvious that all gamblers will say "this time I will definitely be able to be one of the lucky ones among the 10 playing on the table" but the fact that happens at the end of the session always slaps them, and I say it is a cycle because of course the next time they will also motivate themselves by putting new confidence in the next session, as I said above that the problem is that they are too excessive in hope and come with the wrong understanding. Exactly, for the situation of people who are already addicted they will recover from dozens of defeats when they manage to get one victory, when in reality the number is not balanced and the number of losses is still far greater. So it is right to say that this is a cycle that will continue to repeat itself based on excessive expectations that of course make them always curious.

Right, and the point is that whatever impact you will experience someday will always depend on how you treat the activity, if indeed you do it in the wrong way and approach then obviously don't be strange if someday you will experience bad impacts as a result, but sometimes it's like there are people who don't realize their mistakes and don't evaluate that the way they do it is really not recommended so they have to experience bad impacts like that. So of course everything really depends on how they treat and address gambling itself, if indeed they come with the right understanding and also with a good level of awareness then I think actually this activity will not really affect the finances in your relationship later, but however overall obviously I would prefer anyone to stop if possible.

Basically the risk of gambling is not only going to have a financial impact but obviously you also agree that this activity has an impact on a relationship which can certainly make them lose trust with their partner, because after all gambling activities are always synonymous with a very negative point of view in the eyes of society, so of course there is nothing better than stopping, there is no other reason because they can do it slowly.

Our goal, especially those in this forum, is nothing more than to remind each other and be able to get a lot of valuable knowledge from the events that have been experienced by others which also certainly has the potential to change ourselves for the better, especially in terms of gambling activities that are very vulnerable to being done excessively, especially by those newbies who have just been involved who of course usually come without the right understanding. Reckless actions or approaches are usually done by beginners due to ignorance of the dangers that are lurking, so of course I am happy to be here at least to share and look for some good references from other people's experiences.

So anyway we should be able to prevent some of the potential bad things like you mentioned from happening to us by always applying the right understanding and the right perspective on gambling, because only then can we encourage awareness to stay in our minds when we are in a gambling session which can certainly prevent some out of control things from happening. On the other hand, this forum is very helpful for me because I as I said above that we can exchange ideas with others and learn from other people's experiences so that the bad things they experience do not happen to us, isn't that beneficial?

Of course, such people do not take into consideration from various sides from the start, I think they are too focused on their lusts so desperate to carry out a marriage that is not based on careful preparation in any case, especially financially.

Honestly, I see that it is not uncommon for some young people to get married at an age that is too early and below the average in general, seeing from that alone we can actually see and judge that in terms of personal and mental readiness, it is actually still not qualified for people who are still around 20 years old because their mindset is still fairly immature, And also clearly in terms of finance if they are born from ordinary people (not one of the rich families) then I think it is unlikely for them to have enough finances to support their small family later, so it is not uncommon and even very often some couples who end up failing or divorcing at the age of marriage that is not too long due to finances that do not meet all needs. Love is important for a strong bond but money is equally important for a decent life.

Yes, your statement is very possible and makes sense to be used as a reason why there are some gamblers who blame others for their gambling involvement, losing is one of the factors that makes them feel frustrated and upset, of course something out of control is very likely to be done when gamblers are in such situations, one of which is of course blaming others is one of the things that can happen.

Yes in gambling it should be the risk that should be more understood than the chances of winning, because after all if we are lucky then we will also be able to get the same winnings as others get, but unfortunately they don't think about this, in my opinion it's because they are too ambitious for a win, like you said that they think they will be able to get the number of wins like others they see, when in fact such results will not always happen for you. So basically I think it's the misunderstanding of the concept of gambling and how luck works that's at the heart of the problem if you're involved in a purely luck type of gambling. I think that's good advice, if you or they are more focused on winning then it's better to be involved in sports betting only because the percentage of losses will not be too high and you can get closer to winning if you have good enough skills.

Honestly, I've never thought about the reasons why they make claims that don't match reality, but it seems like something drives them to do things like that, whether it's to brag to others including some of their friends that they are able to excel in terms of luck compared to others or other reasons. But yes that's true, on the other hand not all gamblers are like that, for those who gamble just for fun I don't think they will do silly things like this just for the sake of wanting to look luckier than others.

Yes more or less this scenario may be the same as what the stremers do in some of their social media content, they show a situation that looks very tantalizing with seemingly unlimited wins, to be honest I just laugh when I find some stremers who show things like that on social media because I already know that all of that is just nonsense which means deception for ordinary people with the aim of luring more audiences to join the site they are promoting. After all, it's not ethical to be able to get such good luck if they are basically nothing more than ordinary gamblers, meaning they don't gamble like us but they are one of the casino partners whose role is to promote so that behind the scenes the casino organizes all the spins to run well to attract ordinary people.

I think it depends on how much they allocate to the bet, if it's a small amount or even just 1% which is not too valuable to them then I think they won't worry  too much about losing. From what you've said, I think I've come to the conclusion that you're referring to gamblers who can't take responsibility for the outcome of their bets, so they feel anxious and instead of watching the game with a sense of excitement, they focus on the final result, whether  they win or lose.

About whether they will be able to learn from their past mistakes I think that is still a possibility, the fact is that not a few are still doing the same thing that ends up getting  stuck in the same hole as you said that sometimes they still make the same mistakes. Not being able to resist temptation is one of the initial causes in my opinion, so they return to the same beliefs and hopes which eventually regret as before again.

I think one of the reasons is because they have seen some wins even with large amounts that have been achieved by others or even some of their friends so of course that is a kind of motivation for them to get involved in gambling in the hope of getting the same fate or the same victory, it becomes a big push for those who get involved immediately so they forget some of the real facts about gambling which is only about luck. Very few of the newbies see anything behind the scenes, or for that matter what sacrifices people have made to get those wins, the fact that they have spent a lot of money just to get a few wins that are sometimes not balanced with what they have sacrificed.

Of course casinos will be very happy when they see a lot of newbies coming in just because of the misunderstanding of the winning opportunities that they think are easy to get, they are the next profit target for the casino or even with the long term. In fact, the impulse that comes out of expectation due to something that looks so tantalizing makes them forget all the bad possibilities that are very likely to happen.

If the winnings at gambling were not money then I think very few people would be addicted to it or even none.
But the fact is that casinos make money as the object of winnings or meaning winnings in the form of money which in fact all humans on earth need money, and when they get money from gambling intentionally or not then obviously they will think that it seems like a good place to earn, so of course as you said that it all starts with a cycle of winnings that are usually not too big for the initial stage which then they want such results to be repeated again with a larger amount of winnings.

The excitement and pleasure reaction resulting from earning almost makes them forget the real facts in gambling about probability that eventually some controls and limits over time are forgotten, but when they try it again it turns out that the results do not match the previous ones which means that in the next session they lose. The question is will they stop? No, curiosity and the inability to accept the harsh reality will play a role because they were able to get a win before. They will think that "the same old win will definitely be repeated", strangely they are so sure about it that they are unconsciously addicted and their money is eroded.

I think gambling will really benefit when people come with the right goals and point of view, so I think it's less likely for them to overdo it which can certainly cause them a lot of problems especially with their finances. Obviously if someone wants to enter a serious phase and commit with their partner to become a family then inevitably I think it's best that they stop, I understand it's difficult but maybe you can do it slowly starting with reducing gambling activities and the amount of budget allocated because of course there will be many needs that must be fulfilled.

Honestly I think that even if they have pretty good control and boundaries and also have fairly stable finances in my opinion there will always be concerns that are likely to occur. The worry is when you unconsciously enter the addiction phase which can eventually affect the finances of your family, so I still think stopping is better and you can do it slowly.

As time goes by I think we seem to be able to confirm that the current Leverkusen is not the  Leverkusen of the past, with the impressive performances they always show and also always ending in line with expectations, this can  indirectly convince me more that their performance this season is no joke, we can no longer say that they are a middle-class team like what happened last season, but now Xabi Alonso has changed everything significantly and in a very fast period of time, even a team like Bayern Munich, which has always been the favorite in the last decade, is having trouble overcome it or even to pursue it. On the other hand, it is clear that the difference between the two teams between Leverkusen and Bochum is certainly very large, but however it is true as you say, with Leverkusen's current position, they will certainly not  underestimate any team and will still show significant performance to prevent unexpected things.

None other than because  maintaining the difference in points in order to stay away from the pursuit of Bayern Munich is a top priority for Xabi Alonso. Honestly, personally this season is really very interesting, we will see how  hot the competition is towards the end of the season in these two teams if Leverkusen is able to maintain its consistency.

And all gamblers and especially beginners who are just getting involved should understand the basic concept that gambling is always about winning and losing, however they must be able to accept the risk of losing and not just always look forward to winning. There is a point, there is no point in observing what other people do, because after all in gambling everyone has their own responsibility about whatever they will experience, or the point is that it doesn't matter if they overreact or whatever because they will feel the impact of good or bad as a result of the wrong approach.

That kind of care is good especially if you can give them a little advice that their approach is wrong and dangerous, but maybe it won't always work because everyone has their own belief in their approach, it's quite difficult and one of the reasons why addicted gamblers are difficult to recover if they only rely on some advice. Another thing is of course as you said, if they have a personality that is difficult to control or easily provoked then it is better not to touch gambling, but doesn't that require awareness? Of course, and it is quite rare for them to be able to achieve awareness to just consider and choose the best. What is right is that I think everyone can gamble and get involved but not everyone can control their true character.

True, in general that is what people usually do before entering the family period, none other than because I think everyone has realized that the responsibility of needs when married is intolerable, which means that when they need money it means that at the same time they must already have money or prepare money. Well right, that's what has been going through my mind, honestly I am one of the people who are still single and not married, I often see some of my friends who have been married, when chatting they prioritize wedding parties which of course cost a lot of money, even though the party is only temporary and just to enliven the wedding, and real life will really happen when they have entered a family relationship. Which means that I agree with you that it's better not to overdo it in marriage, don't be too pushy to spend a lot of money, it's simple because after all, real life will really happen when the marriage is over with a myriad of needs that will come your way.

As you said that they will have offspring (children) which of course requires cost allocation, so preparing funds early with an ideal amount according to the needs in your area and using it for needs when the time comes is better than you allocate all your savings only for a wedding party that is only temporary.

Basically, I think that if the involvement is still within reasonable limits, which means that it does not cause too many financial problems for him, then I think there is nothing wrong if the activity has really become a habit in his environment, but the problem may be that this situation is quite worrying because after all, something that is uncontrollable is always unpredictable, or it means that there may be times when one of those who try occasionally acts aggressively and excessively. That's right, this situation does need to be watched and controlled well so that all involved don't end up addicted.

One of the things that can be done is maybe I hope there is one of them who always reminds them about the dangers of addiction or even better to remind each other so that they can keep their awareness so as not to overdo it. On the other hand, the fact that losing control and forgetting some of the boundaries they have made before are still very likely to happen as I said above when they are really tempted by something they see. So in my opinion what is better is if they can better find other activities on weekends such as going to one of the entertainment venues or the gym and get used to it slowly, because after all in my opinion gambling is an activity that inevitably has to use money and the risk of losing is always lurking.

But unfortunately sometimes those who already have good self-control and boundaries that can always keep them safe during that time do not always rule out the possibility that a change can still occur later, meaning a change in mindset and perspective which of course can still change when in a session they are careless and almost forget some controls and boundaries that have proven to keep them safe during their involvement in the past.

So of course there are still several potential possibilities that can occur, and that is the importance of always putting full firmness on the limits and controls that you have designed from the beginning, not least because gambling will always give you something that looks like a tempting when in reality it is nothing more than a trap to keep you involved with the wrong mindset and perspective. Of course, for people who feel that gambling has caused many problems in their lives such as losing balance in finances, they should be able to do something like some precautions, but reaching such a realization is not easy, and maybe only a trauma can make them reach their consciousness for a change.

Honestly, I remember one thing, where I have a friend who is also the same gambler who I don't really like because his words usually always don't match reality, not only in the world of gambling but in any case in real life he always says something without proof. At that time he came to me and talked that last night he managed to get a big win in a slot game which if simplified more or less the amount could buy a new motorcycle by only using a very small capital, like using 1% capital but managed to get 1000x the amount of victory.

But on the other hand at the same time he borrowed my gadget to open one of the social media to give news to his girlfriend, he often did that or borrowed my gadget just to give news to his partner or some other friends because he didn't have a gadget even though on the other hand it was clear that he needed the tool. The question is do you believe that he really managed to get a large amount of winnings? The logic is that I think if he is really telling the truth about his winnings then why doesn't he buy a new gadget, when he needs it.

What do you think buddy?

It seems like this has become a real fact that it is true that since the emergence of online-based casinos now people who are involved and who are addicted are increasing, as I said earlier that ease of access is one of the advantages that of course will be chosen by most people rather than having to go to a physical casino which is certainly quite complicated. You are right, there is a significant difference in terms of time between these two casinos, if you are involved in online casinos then obviously you can gamble whenever you want until your money runs out maybe, while in physical casinos you cannot fully gamble because they have opening hours and closing hours so when the time is too late most likely they will close all access in the casino which means it shows the completion of the gambling session that day and continue tomorrow.

Another thing is that it is clear that online casinos have real freedom which does not recognize age, as you said minors can also get involved by submitting  their brother's or sister's personal data as a KYC requirement to get involved in gambling. On the other hand, this is what is worried about and what should be of full attention to all parents, because the name of minors they absolutely do not think about any risks, they  will only continue to play to make money quickly by aggressive means. If they run out of money then it is very likely that they will look for any means as an alternative such as borrowing from some services, so online casinos certainly have many worse impacts.

Perhaps more precisely, he is one of the many people who cannot learn from an experience to be better in the future so of course they will only spin in the same cycle by falling back into the same hole. It is clear that experience can usually always be the best teacher for ourselves and be used as a lesson to be better, but the fact is that there are still people like that who do not take advantage of experience at all to be a valuable lesson. one of the causes of the scenario you mentioned above seems to be that the main problem is the wrong understanding that the gambler has so that he applies greed to his involvement by increasing the amount of budget in order to get a bigger number of wins.

The lack of understanding about gambling and also by not really understanding what is meant by luck and also how luck works will clearly make them misguided and act without consideration, even though on the other hand anyone will never know whether luck is still there or has disappeared, but strangely they do not hesitate to act greedy which ultimately clearly ends in regret because luck has disappeared when they put greed. Yes of course, it all comes back to their own choices, the problem is that what they think is good and nice doesn't always mean good for others.

In the sense that the tension increases when you watch your favorite team play along with putting the amount of budget to bet, there are two disappointments that you or they will feel when the final result really loses, and vice versa there will also be two feelings of joy when your favorite team can really win by any means. I think it comes back to the choice of each individual about whether they want to watch while betting or just watch or bet without watching the match.

Another thing is that I think if you really want to take both, meaning watching while betting then I think there is one thing you should pay attention to if you really don't want to feel significant disappointment if you end up losing, namely putting the smallest amount of budget whether it's 1% or whatever the point is not to upset you and not disturb your financial balance if your favorite team loses. By summarizing what you said about your habits, it seems that you are one of those people who prefer to focus on the final result of your bet rather than looking for fun by watching the game, and you only check or look for the final answer when the match is over, of course, as I said above that everyone has their own choices.