https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=341583.msg3659061#msg3659061



One month after the supposed delivery time, and they only have a rendering of the boards.

I guess it's because renderings are not under NDA?

Solo oltre certi limiti (se non ricordo male, è tempo che non lo uso).

Subscribing. I have (a bit of) trust into the OP.

I don't like your personal offences, tough, i tough you where the one whining around here. I'm just the only one that stands you, or has the time to do so.
About my lawyer treats to be empty, well, you will see.

I was just wondering the meaning of "E.'s"?, but i shouldn't have expected nothing but such a stupid reply from you, my bad.

"E.'s"?

Actually, they just talked about calculated benefits. From what i read, and my english is bad, they are talking about how much additional processing power you will have. Even if they started to calculate that at the shipping time, customers would be entitled to 4 times the hashrate.

I bought after the MPP was announced. And the MPP doesn't make them less liars. They sold out batch 1 only thanks to the MPP, please note this point.

Maybe i didn't explained myself. The MPP states that you are entitled to 4 times (blabla) the hashrate, but it does not says when you will receive this hashrate.
If received in February (first of, as per MPP, not middle as you say), it's one thing. If received in April, it's a completely different one.

I disagree with everything else you have said. Ignore me if you don't want to read me.

I stopped reading here (will resume later).
Please tell me where it's written that we will receive the MPP in February. It's no-where. No-Where. They are careful not to put that detail no where.

I don't. It's clear for me that they prefer money over reputation to spend on future customers.
Where is _everything_ they promised us, just for example?

I'm the pessimist here, but i sincerely don't understand all of this optimism.

You better check the dates of our messages again, dear. It's a question of principles. Give me back what you own me. I told you to keep it, it's true. Hoever just the day after i asked for my money back, because you where unwillingly to help on what we where talking about (i didn't add you on skype to lend you 0.0something, remember?).

However i don't really care about that nothing. We have bigger things here if you don't mind.

Donate the BTC to charity in a provable way if you want to end it without giving my money back.

MrTeal, i see and i completely agree with your points. In fact, i don't want to go after an USD refund (if BTC goes back to the 200-something level, i would love to have an USD refund, given that it would be processed in time for me to buy back the BTC). As you are saying, i could/should just shut up and relax. However, that's exactly what happened with BFL, (where their customers didn't lose a $ due to the massive price spike), where people paid 10k BTC for a miner.

I want a court to prove that they used illegal business practices, that they lied and so on. This is what i want. What happens from that point is a question mark for me. We will see. If the answer is nothing, i will accept that. Certainly, BTC being finally recognised will help. (another senate hearing in a few minutes, really?)

Josh, i don't really care about overloading your legal system. And i also don't really care about how wrong or right i'm.

There is this independent third party that will decide that for me. It's there by purpose, to defend people.

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I receive a lot of questions via pm with persons interested to sue them, but everyone stops, due to laziness i think.

Well, they lied about the promised delivery time, they promised something that they knew would have never happen and we can easily prove that. I really don't see what else is needed.

I have money i want to trow away against HF. And arbitration looks like a dead track. Again, please, let's do something serious. (i can already visualise ice or their peers trolling me with this post, but who cares...). I want to have john to regret what he said about how many lawsuit bfl had. It's the minimum they deserve.

I receive a lot of questions via pm with persons interested to sue them, but everyone stops, due to laziness i think.

Well, they lied about the promised delivery time, they promised something that they knew would have never happen and we can easily prove that. I really don't see what else is needed.

I have money i want to trow away against HF. And arbitration looks like a dead track. Again, please, let's do something serious. (i can already visualise ice or their peers trolling me with this post, but who cares...). I want to have john to regret what he said about how many lawsuit bfl had. It's the minimum they deserve.

If we get nothing with such a lawsuit, at least we will be able to have said ourselves that we have tried.

@perezoso, i don't completely agree with you, but you should be able to tell the paid suckpoppet in this thread by now

When i wrote it i was fully hoping in it, it was happening. No crash for now, you are right. Too bad.

After gaining how much during the last week? So your point is? Yes, it's a bubble. Bubble explodes. Prepare for cheap coins and depression all over the forum. I personally will buy.

"specialist"? You just need a newbie to tell you that yes, btc lost [1-5]00$, after gaining 700$ in a week or so.

Nothing really happened