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1941  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever been a gambling addict? on: November 30, 2023, 03:07:54 PM
I started gambling online by seeing those big bonuses on ads and after that I knew that these require wagering to be able to claim those bonuses.
it was hard to complete those requirements so I lost of first deposit and I deposited second time i lost that too, I was playing irresponsibly and without knowing anything about online casinos.
I learned the lesson hard way that player cannot win in gambling long term if he doesn't able to control his emotions.

For the most part, bonus systems in casinos are designed to make a gambler in the casino as much money as possible to his account. If you consider the fact that the casino has an advantage over the gambler, it is easy to understand that the more you gamble, the more you will lose money. This is a very simple marketing move, which many do not understand and continue to chase bonuses.  

But to get a bonus they have to top up their gambling account first, and my experience is sometimes when I put a not too large amount then the bonus I get is meaningless, or I mean maybe it can only be used for a few spins, I only get 5% of the amount of 100% of the money I bet and that's very small. Some gamblers may have been fooled by the bonuses they can get, even though you managed to get a bonus but look at the actual facts as you said that the amount you lose is far greater than the bonus you get and it is far from equal. If you come in looking for maximum winnings along with bonuses then I think it's all going to be reversed, or I mean a lot of money you're going to have to lose.

Casinos are so clever they can do anything that looks good to gamblers, it's like indirect brainwashing.
1942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: November 30, 2023, 01:58:03 PM
Insight and the level of curiosity about something that should be a major concern and prioritized, this will be useful so that you know what is actually in the field, do not get the wrong idea because there will be negative impacts that will befall you when you come without any consideration, as is the case in gambling and especially for poor people who are also poor in terms of insight and way of thinking. Not only that, I will not fully blame the poor because of course there are several factors that are very likely to influence them so that they bring the wrong mindset, the impetus of difficult circumstances? yes that's right, of course they have stressful circumstances due to lack of strength in financial terms that make them think to look for or take advantage of whatever is in front of them which of course can give them money.

When there is gambling, it is clear and not strange if they think that this is an activity that can produce, the pressure of the situation has changed the way they think, instead of getting income to increase their financial strength, but the opposite happens, they lose a lot of money from their hard work which is not much. I think more middle class/poor people are victims of the impact of addiction, the mindset that is their initial mistake, so they make decisions that should not be.
1943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 30, 2023, 01:30:55 PM

Union Berlin is like a team that has run out of gas, and is having difficulty showing its best performance in the 2023/24 season. In fact, we have seen this phenomenon in the previous season, when Union Berlin focused on other competitions, one of which was the Europa League. Their performance goes ups and downs, especially in the Bundesliga. So, they had to go down in ranking and were eventually overtaken by Dortmund and Bayern Munich.
this season, they should increase the amount of ammunition they have to bring in. because, Berlin plays for the Champions League. However, the opposite problem occurred, this team looked like a team that had lost its enthusiasm. The system built by Urs Fischer with his flagship pattern 5-4-1, or 3-5-2, doesn't seem to be effective in every match. Berlin was only recorded as being able to win 2 matches in the Bundesliga out of 12 matches, 1 draw and 9 defeats. in the Champions League group phase, they did not even win a match.

Well, as far as I have read, Urs Fischer actually resigned by reaching an agreement with the club management. and yep, naturally, with a series of such poor performances, the great coach realized that he was no longer competent to handle the team he was coaching. In the end, now Nenad Bjelica has replaced him. The group stage match is his debut match with Union Berlin, so let's watch and wait for the results of how this new coach handles Union Berlin.
Union Berlin was a better team last season but they've been less better this season from week after the season began till now, be it managerial, technical or general team issue, they ought to be doing better. Now they're categorized as the least teams in the league, and it's really not paying out for them.

 Yesterday against Braga, they were able to maintain a draw which although was okay for the fact that they played away from home but at thesame time, they need an improvement in their performance, they need to pose more dangers to their opponents as well. Currently it's pretty much easy to predict the outcome of their games and it isn't supposed to be so. There has to be a change in all areas, there are numerous means to switching from poor to better and it should be implemented.

Last season Union Berlin performed quite impressively as an ordinary team, they were able to survive in the tight competition in the top five so they could finish with a top 4 position in the standings, it was a good achievement and I said that they had a fairly strong consistency in the past few seasons, there was no significant change and in the previous 3 seasons they never finished above the top 10 of the standings. But this season is much different, I never thought that Nenad Bjelica's squad would fall so quickly without any indication beforehand.

I think the match against Braga could have been a win for Union Berlin in the UCL because Braga were down to 10 men, one of their players got their card in the 31st minute of the first half, meaning at least Union Berlin had a good chance to maximize that match to get the full three points, but yes as we saw that until the end they were only able to get a draw. In both the Bundesliga and UCL Union Berlin are out of luck, there's nothing impressive about them, to be honest I wouldn't pin any more hopes on them, it's like they've lost faith and maybe the relegation zone is more appropriate for a team that's performing so poorly.
1944  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling are mainly for rich and lucky mind. on: November 30, 2023, 05:40:10 AM
Yes your are right but gambling are mainly for rich but not luck mind. We can see many gamblers grow up with low amount of money. If you are rich and you entered in gambling that is plus point for you but in gambling maximum time luck doesn't fevour. That is game of skil. The game is fully depend on your silk money is not to much needed but skil is needed.

Gambling isn’t mainly for the rich but seeing as you do need some money in order to play, one could see why gambling is said to be for the rich in the society. I think it’s for anyone with some money to spare and willing to take some risks.

If you’re rich and get into gambling, the obvious advantage is there is money to comfortably bet and such individuals wouldn’t look to gambling as a source of making an income.
Generally, although skills are needed to try to identify and predict games that could be favorable, you literally can’t do anything without having some money in your pocket. You can have all the skills but without any money, you’re pretty much a spectator.

Yes you are right, he has enough money then he can gamble, not with the rich alone, the poor can also do gambling if he wants. There is also no prohibition for poor people to gamble, all can do it as long as they can accept the risks involved, but most of them cannot accept the risks and make them misinterpret gambling.

In general, many rich people gamble just for fun not victory, because they have a lot of money so they don't mind the defeat they get, and they don't make the defeat they get a big loss so they don't pursue victory or loss, but for poor people it's the opposite.
1945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: November 30, 2023, 05:20:44 AM
Yes, although being responsible for gambling is difficult to do, but they should have done it because then they will not experience many losses that everyone does not want to happen. Other people's bad experiences do not need to be followed but enough to be used as lessons for us to apply so that we can avoid it, so that it can also minimize the risks involved in gambling. And it should be gambling responsibly without giving up many more useful things by not gambling excessively is one of the responsible things.
Yes that's right, there will be many things that he forgot and also harmed themselves. What I wonder is that most of those who gamble irresponsibly do not think about the losses that have occurred, so they continue to gamble even though they lose and lose. I appreciate the enthusiasm they have, but this enthusiasm they have, can harm them themselves. Excessive expectations that make them chase big wins that are not obtained even difficult. So the fault lies with themselves not with the gambling.
Yes, and know your limit. Gambling is avoidable, let your loses be your lesson. Don't risk everything you have, save for yourself or for your family. Not everyday is lucky in gambling, you maybe won today, but maybe not tomorrow. I also gambled and I have limitations, I will bring $20 to bet, if I win then lucky and if my $20 lose then stop. That's how I control myself in gambling and even before that I make sure that I already save money and pay all my bills. Just gamble for fun, don't do it for a living.  

You have pretty good boundaries, not everyone can do that. I also gamble only on weekends and that's with a set budget, because I think there are many other things that I'm responsible for. That's why I have a limit on gambling. Because I think a lot of gamblers spend a lot of money because they don't have limits and budgets set, clearly maybe they don't have a strong stance so they can't limit what they shouldn't do excessively.

Yes, although being responsible for gambling is difficult to do, but they should have done it because then they will not experience many losses that everyone does not want to happen. Other people's bad experiences do not need to be followed but enough to be used as lessons for us to apply so that we can avoid it, so that it can also minimize the risks involved in gambling. And it should be gambling responsibly without giving up many more useful things by not gambling excessively is one of the responsible things.
Yes that's right, there will be many things that he forgot and also harmed themselves. What I wonder is that most of those who gamble irresponsibly do not think about the losses that have occurred, so they continue to gamble even though they lose and lose. I appreciate the enthusiasm they have, but this enthusiasm they have, can harm them themselves. Excessive expectations that make them chase big wins that are not obtained even difficult. So the fault lies with themselves not with the gambling.
Yes, I admit that being responsible in gambling is difficult to do, so we have to practice it often so that we can have good responsibility while we are gambling. It will definitely take time before we can have good responsibility and good control, but by practising it continuously, we can definitely have it. And it's worth continuing to practice because without it, we'll lose more money than we can afford, and we won't be able to avoid more problems. We can also learn from other people's experiences, which will definitely be useful for us in developing the abilities we have so that we won't experience any problems. When we can gamble responsibly, we can definitely enjoy gambling as fun, and there is no aim of winning because we know that it will depend on our luck in winning.

Those who do not have responsibility for gambling may not clearly know that this responsibility is needed so that they do not experience loss. But they are not like that and still gamble excessively. We have warned them to be responsible for gambling, but if they cannot accept it, we cannot force it.

You are right, that is what must be done, by doing it continuously so that it becomes a habit it will produce a good thing. it doesn't matter if it takes a long time, as long as you are consistent in doing it, it will work. enjoying gambling will be felt if we aim to find pleasure, if we aim to find victory, it will make us nervous, maybe panic when the balance we have is starting to run low. Even if you force it, it is useless in my opinion, because someone who is addicted can be resistant when given direction or advice, it is better to let go until he experiences something big that can make himself realize himself. So pay attention to yourself before others, because other people don't necessarily care about us either.
1946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: November 30, 2023, 05:01:32 AM
By gambling for the purpose of seeking pleasure you can also avoid big losses in my opinion. Because if the goal is like that, they will not experience greed, irritation, revenge which could cause them to suffer losses later. It's not a bad thing if they gamble with the aim of looking for fun, because that's why they shouldn't use gambling as a permanent income to make a profit if that's not recommended, as many say, gambling is entertainment in the form of games that pay if they want to make a profit. they better work.
Benefits in gambling do exist but it cannot be guaranteed that they will be easy to get, and many people still misunderstand gambling so that they continue to chase losses by spending a lot of their money and savings. If he is stubborn, it will be difficult to wake him up.
So in my opinion, it's better to just leave it alone and let him do what he likes as long as it doesn't harm other people, but if it harms other people, it's better if we urge that person to realize that what they're doing is wrong.
That's what we have to do if we want to gamble so that we avoid problems like the ones you mentioned so that we can gamble comfortably and enjoy gambling games as entertainment. By making gambling a pleasure, we will limit our gambling activities. We will not overdo it in gambling because we know that the pleasure we get from gambling can make us forget to control ourselves and will use all the money just to gamble. And we also know that gambling is not an income so we will not use it as a way to make people. Those who can use this in gambling will remember it as a pastime and will look for other places to make money. Your suggestion can be used if we encounter someone difficult to advise and instead decide to gamble to recover their previous losses. And we just need to pay attention to ourselves because we already use gambling as entertainment so we have to really pay attention to it and not gamble excessively.

Just pay attention to yourself, we have to limit gambling so that it does not become a severe addiction which is also dangerous, if other people are like that, even one of our friends is addicted to gambling, just advise naturally, but I myself if I have advised him many times but he has no change then I myself prefer to let him go as long as he does not harm others with a note using his own money whether it is income they have or savings, giving advice already then what else can I do if he has a stubborn nature, only he himself will realize that what he is doing is salak, when it's time for them to realize I think they will also come to us to ask for solutions to the problems they feel. Whether other people will agree with me or not, I don't think about it either.
1947  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: November 30, 2023, 04:41:04 AM
It would be better for all gamblers to be able to do so, by cashing in the winnings they have earned, not by continuing the game because of greed and wanting a bigger win, it is possible that they will lose, even it is certain that they will experience things they do not want, such as losing, it may make them annoyed in the end and regret it. When we win, there must be a feeling of greed that drives us to continue the game. This will definitely happen and be felt by the person who wins, but the control lies with each of us. How we respond to the winnings we have gotten, if we continue to play means we follow our ego, if we immediately cash out means we can fight the greed that is inside us. But it's good to fight greed, because greed can make us lose the winnings we have earned. By cashing out the winnings you've earned and going away to enjoy the winnings you've earned, then you can come back one day to continue playing. They can do that if they can fight their greed well so that they won't have unwanted losses. So in my opinion, they should cash out the winnings they have earned, not continuing the game would be better.
If the winning gambler can cash out all his winnings, he can enjoy it and celebrate with his family or friends. He can also rest and let go of his tension after getting that win because after all, after getting that win, there will definitely be an urge from within him to continue gambling while he can get lucky. But no one knows whether his luck is still with him or whether he has gone and looked for other gamblers worthy of his luck. Yes, greed can also come and persuade us to continue playing and the urge from greed can grow while he is still in the casino because he wants to look at other promotions or other games. This can result in him losing consciousness to resist the urge, and eventually, it will escalate until he realizes that he should be able to stop after getting his big win. But everything had happened and he had lost all his winnings because of his greed to get an even bigger win so he could only regret it. This shouldn't happen to us, especially if we very rarely get big wins because getting big wins is a bonus for us and we have to use it well.

It is only natural that way, because the temptation to gamble is so high that many of them cannot resisst playing again, also many of them cannot cash out the winnings they have got because maybe when they get it they think their luck is still valid so they decide to continue gambling, no one knows luck,  basically luck no one can spread it, even if they are still lucky to get a bigger win, of course this will also trigger them to play more aggressively again, if they feel they are not satisfied with their winnings. After they get it, they will not stop there, they will return to betting by increasing their bet amount. This is where they start to lose selfcontrol where greed has taken over them so they don't think about the big risks that await them, if they are still lucky that's great.

It would be better for all gamblers to be able to do so, by cashing in the winnings they have earned, not by continuing the game because of greed and wanting a bigger win, it is possible that they will lose, even it is certain that they will experience things they do not want, such as losing, it may make them annoyed in the end and regret it. When we win, there must be a feeling of greed that drives us to continue the game. This will definitely happen and be felt by the person who wins, but the control lies with each of us. How we respond to the winnings we have gotten, if we continue to play means we follow our ego, if we immediately cash out means we can fight the greed that is inside us. But it's good to fight greed, because greed can make us lose the winnings we have earned. By cashing out the winnings you've earned and going away to enjoy the winnings you've earned, then you can come back one day to continue playing. They can do that if they can fight their greed well so that they won't have unwanted losses. So in my opinion, they should cash out the winnings they have earned, not continuing the game would be better.
I only like gamblers to be cautious but how you are taking it is preaching fear which I will not advise. If any gambler wins, I don't think that should automatically stop him from playing again, after all, he is in the plus, but what I wouldn't like is if the gambler does not have any plan but just playing. If gamblers could be so fearful as you are taking it and didn't play that day, what if they come and play the next day or the next week and still lose money and even more?

That is why in losing and winning, gamblers should make sure they have budgets and plans, they should know their preferred games and have the number of times they can play them at a specific period of time, and when the number is complete, the gambler quits immediately. This is better than avoiding to gamble again because you had won, what if you gambled again and won again? This means you missed by not gambling again just because you won.

That is why we all have to approach gambling with a neutral mind but have a style and let our approach to gambling and the budget we have devised guide us. For instance, I recommend that gamblers should have it at the back of their minds not to be gambling all their money at once. If they divide it into 5-10 parts, it would be more fun to go one after the other without exhausting it at once. This is better than winning one and starting to be afraid. It's gambling, it's funfilled too but we must only use our senses rightly to both enjoy it and also try to make more money from it.

I think that's stupid, because if they have won a big enough win, it's better for them to finish it,  indeed there will be curiosity, but in my opinion if they come back it doesn't rule out the possibility that they will lose, not to mention other things like irritation, if they going back and gambling again and then losing, it could be that they become annoyed and they return to gambling until the money they play with exceeds the amount of winnings they have earned. They have been consumed by their greed,  if that is the case the victory they have previously obtained is just a lie, they will return the victory they have obtained but in a gradual manner,  not all at once. No one teaches someone who has won to go back to gambling but there may be people who give them advice on whether they should be careful or something else.

That's not certain, so in my opinion it all comes down to luck, and no one can guess about someone's luck. It's good if they gamble again and win, that means their luck is still on their side and if it continues like that, it can be said that they are successful in life. gambling.
1948  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: November 30, 2023, 03:59:29 AM
Yes that's right, there must be daily needs where they have to meet those needs, if they still want to gamble I think they can limit their budget for gambling, so they don't gamble excessively. Because if luck is on their side they can get a win even if they play only occasionally, rather than continuing to play often to pursue victory but luck is not on their side it will only spend their money. It will not be easy to succeed by gambling, it is better to play reasonably and when they are lucky to get a win it can make them open a business or start a business and then they have to pursue success from the business they have. Do not force yourself to gamble by chasing victory, it is very unnatural.
That's the point of limiting our budget and controlling ourselves so that we don't use the money we have prepared to meet our daily needs. We can still gamble while we can also fulfil our daily needs and that can go hand in hand while we can avoid losing a lot. Luck can come to us, but we are still determining when that luck will come and can only gamble periodically and not excessively. So don't even think about making a successful career out of gambling because we have already seen what will happen if someone still forces himself to continue gambling even by increasing the amount of his budget. It still isn't worth doing, considering that we still have daily needs that we have to fulfill and if we run out of money, it will cause problems for us.

Yes I understand what you mean, Where they can still continue to gamble by not using or disturbing finances for needs, that's good because then they have a sense of responsibility for what is more important, I suggest gambling only occasionally using leftover money, such as bonus money from work not to use the money set aside for daily needs let alone using savings. Yes that's right, I also think like that, gambling naturally just don't overdo it because if luck favors it will give victory, not by playing continuously to get victory, because usually it will only spend more money will also make us continue to be addicted to playing. Of course, there are many examples that occur if they force themselves to continue gambling, also by increasing their budget for gambling, it does not guarantee that victory will be easy to get. So it's best to do what needs to be done that we think is needed especially for daily life, because if you pursue victory there will be no end. Instead of being successful, they become miserable, of course they don't want that, they chase victory to change their lives for the better but in fact it's the opposite.
1949  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 29, 2023, 06:53:27 PM
There is still a lot of doubt about Manchester United whether they can win today's match. We have seen them do very poorly in the group stages this season where they have won just one match. Today, Manchester United will be able to qualify against their opponents Galatasaray. Manchester United are still at the bottom of the points table, as they are currently below Kobenhovn, who can change their position if they win today's match. However, if Manchester United can get a win at the opposition's home ground, they might have a great chance. And I think today will definitely be an aggressive game between the two teams and Manchester United has a chance to win, and today's match is important for both teams and everyone will give enough effort.
Winning in the first half is enough to give some insight but Erik Ten Hag struggle is still not over because in the second half Galatasaray definitely put more emphasis on full attack. Garnacho who is on fire, is very profitable he is able to create movements on his own initiative even though he seems reckless, one of the players must have the courage to break through.  I wish Ten Hag would have introduced Martial in the second half and given him the same chance of creating a goal.
1950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 29, 2023, 06:40:37 PM
If Ancelotti somehow gets to United, that would be all problems solved for United without a doubt. He is not called Don for a reason, that dude is serious about playing time, you can be the greatest player ever, and if you do not show up and play with your 100% then you will not get any start, maybe even be out of the bench. Ancelotti could manage PSG tomorrow, and if Mbappe doesn't care in the game or training, he could literally bench him, this dude is too much focused on playing the players who will contribute the most and will work the most, it is not just about talent for him.
In my opinion if Ancelotti becomes Man United coach it does not guarantee that the problems facing the club will be resolved. The reason is simple because Ancelotti at Real Madrid is fully supported by Florentino in all aspects, which is a strong reason why Ancelotti was able to take Madrid to the highest peak. Now back to Man United, imagine Ancelotti asking for a budget to bring in expensive players but Glazer refuses and instead tells Ancelotti to use the available players. We have to be realistic, I know Ancelotti is a professional coach and has proven success. However, all of this cannot be separated from adequate financial support. Without adequate funds no matter how good a coach is at gathering players it will be difficult because creating an ideal strategy requires fulfilling what the coach needs.
1951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: November 29, 2023, 06:02:27 PM

Now, compare your behavior with your parents' different behavior. There must be differences, whether it's worse or better... the key point is the differences in your attitudes (between the child and the parent). Even though no one guarantees this possibility, gambling in front of kids is still not a positive idea. Don't you have a better goal than doing that in front of your child? There are plenty of other more beneficial activities, like putting together a puzzle or maybe assembling a bike.

At a start in the life of kids, they need to learn things that are positive first and when they get to certain age they socialize themselves into other things but by then they are already knowledgeable on the good ones and when they meet the other side, they know what choice to make, instead having the negative side as the only avenue to learning.

Some fathers gamble and smoke in the presence of the children and that gives the children the impression that it is okay to do that. I believe even in countries where gambling is legal, there is still age limit to start gambling so they don't need to learn it earlier than the age because they will tend to start gambling earlier when they have not mentally mature for it and can gamble away their school fees.

In addition, with today's technology where most people cannot be far from the gadgets they own so gambling advertises all over the internet and this also makes it easier for them to find out about gambling if they can already socialize with many people, also when they grow up they have the right to choose something that they think is good for themselves, even with gambling which is not a good thing they can just do it because they follow the current technological developments. They will also do it and try their luck because of curiosity, curiosity in adult children is very large, there are many things they want to know so they will do what they want.
With the development of technology at this time, gambling can be done by anyone regardless of age, unlike gambling in casinos which of course has rules against age limits, but online gambling does not require that, parental supervision of their children will disappear when they grow up because they will have their own thoughts and decide everything around them.
1952  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling game is not good and everyone should stay away from it on: November 29, 2023, 05:42:18 PM
Everyone stay away from gambling game then you all will be happy and happy Gambling game is very bad which will harm your family a lot and will also harm your life like my father gambling ruined my father's life and also my future is dark now I am now  I came back to this bitcoin to find light in my life in this darkness you all help me shine.

Not everyone has responses and thoughts like you even though what you say is true, but those who experience it are gamblers who are addicted and have no responsibility because responsible gambler can choose which ones should be priorities, such as family.
We are here to have fun and we know what to do to avoid all these bad effects, even though not everything is possible, at least there are gamblers who can have good awareness in their approach to gambling.
I sure that gambler who still has or can become responsible gambler will never be willing to experience financial, family and mental ruin so you don't need to worry too much about this problem.
After all, it all depends on the gambler himself to be able to experience the negative effects of gambling and not all gamblers always experience bad effects.

That's true because not all gamblers are out of control. So if you or anyone decides to gamble, we all hope that the gambler knows the risks and is ready financially and mentally.
I think almost all gamblers experience the problem of gambling addiction. but what makes the difference is the control and commitment of the gambler himself. Gamblers must be aware of the limits of their abilities. including their financial capabilities. So if you are not financially strong, it is better not to seek luck in gambling.

They should be prepared for the risks involved, because the only ones who feel it are themselves and not others. Because the financial risk is the main one, not to mention the mentality that will be affected by gambling. Most of them do not think about their financial capabilities so they always force themselves to continue gambling by not thinking about their limited financial situation, they do many things to be able to return to gambling including borrowing capital, of course this is wrong, by borrowing capital for gambling this will only complicate their financial situation. They should be able to avoid this to not increase their financial problems. They must immediately realize that what they are doing is wrong and to leave gambling, especially for those who are already addicted, it will be difficult to leave this habit, actually there are many ways to leave gambling or addiction, but it all depends on themselves to determine whether they really want to stop gambling or just nonsense.
1953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: November 29, 2023, 05:24:12 PM
At least by telling other people about the problems they are facing it can make them feel relieved, and they can find a solution because by meeting other people, someone who is addicted might be able to get ideas for reducing their gambling addiction. Perhaps he has not been able to cure his gambling addiction. However, he has ideas that can help him to reduce the level of his gambling addiction, and it is really necessary to try so that he can see how far he can reduce the level of his gambling addiction. Indeed, it will have an impact on his life, but by knowing that there is a solution he can get from sharing with others about his problem, he can see that he can actually still reduce the level of his gambling addiction with help from other people.
But it is difficult to open the insight and mind of someone who is addicted to gambling, especially those who have been gambling for a long time, because they need to realize the mistakes they have made, admit them, and try to reduce and cure them. With help from other people, they can get something useful so they can try to reduce the level of their gambling addiction.

To be precise, their knowledge is not broad so they cannot realize what they are doing is wrong. The only factor that can make them realize is that they themselves do not think about the losses they have experienced, as well as the many solutions they can do to stop gambling, but it is difficult for them to realize so they cannot accept that gambling must be abandoned. Not to mention if they have a stubborn nature, I think it will be very difficult to make them realize.

People who have been gambling for a long time will find it difficult to open new thoughts, because they will only think about the winnings they will get, even though it will not guarantee them to be able to change their lives nor will it make their lives easier in the future, maybe some people have luck in gambling so that they can get big wins that can change their lives, but people's luck is different. So it should be able to think about this that maybe this will make them realize not to do excessive gambling.
1954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling are mainly for rich and lucky mind. on: November 29, 2023, 05:01:30 PM
I dislike that thought, but it's true.

For most poor people, they are not advised to do gambling... because is an expensive pleasure that shouldn't become a habit due to its low priority on our life. Instead of gambling, better for them to improve their economy by managing their finances wisely. This way, they can have the opportunity to build a business and generate more income. Rather than gambling, it's better to invest in high protein and nutritious food for their healthy.

For rich mans with multiple income sources, set aside some money for gambling is never a problem. They might need it for peace of mind after hectic activities or crucial decision making. The rich man of the affluent regenerates at a higher rate than that of the poor, which is why gambling is still considered a minor concern for the rich.

The number of people who gamble does not look at anyone, as long as they have the desire then they will do it even if they are poor, but it is true like that, those who have money restrictions or poor should not force themselves to gamble, because it can make it difficult for them in the future such as complicating their economy as well as their main finances,  you are right they have the opportunity to open a business if they can manage their finances well by not doing excessive gambling.

For rich people who gamble, chances are they are not chasing victory, they gamble mostly just for fun because they know that gambling is just fun in the form of paid games so they are not chasing victory. The great thing is, the rich don't think about the losses they experience, they don't get upset and maybe you're right, it's not a big deal for the rich.
1955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: November 29, 2023, 04:41:43 PM
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It's what you should do when gambling and also on the other hand it's the only action you can take if you don't want to experience a lot of problems or downturns as a result of the gambling you do. Having full responsibility for whatever happens will be very useful for results that will not make you disappointed or that means if you are a responsible gambler then from the beginning you have agreed with yourself for whatever the result is, especially defeat you will be able to accept it and also besides that the benefits of having responsibility then I think you will not act out of control, because usually out of control behavior will arise when you cannot accept the results of defeat.

I think for people who lose responsibility it's because they can't be strict in setting their boundaries so over time they get carried away unconsciously and end up experiencing emotions that make them behave out of control. Of course, all of this negligence occurs because they cannot resist all the temptations that look tempting when in fact it is just a trap from the casino so that you keep playing and end up losing like other gamblers. Good responsibility and understanding the correct concept of luck will make your interest less significant in seeing the chances of winning, with that then I think you will have no trouble implementing prevention.
Indeed, that is what we should do to be responsible while we are gambling and to reduce a large number of losses because many people have experienced this, and we have to prevent it from happening to us. Practising responsibility is a must for all gamblers so that we can reduce the risk of losing money and also have better self-control. We don't need to follow other people's bad experiences because we don't want to experience them and can study other people's experiences to avoid them. By being responsible gamblers, we continue to learn to use the limits we set to keep us from gambling excessively so that we can enjoy gambling well.

People who lose responsibility will experience a lot of losses and maybe in a row because they cannot control themselves and their emotions, which makes them even more eager to gamble and to win some money. Actually, if they have won, they can leave gambling by withdrawing their money and resting for some time. But the reality is that they forget about that and instead continue gambling while hoping that the next round will be another big win for them. But that's a dream that won't come true that day because all the money has been used without giving any winnings.

Yes, although being responsible for gambling is difficult to do, but they should have done it because then they will not experience many losses that everyone does not want to happen. Other people's bad experiences do not need to be followed but enough to be used as lessons for us to apply so that we can avoid it, so that it can also minimize the risks involved in gambling. And it should be gambling responsibly without giving up many more useful things by not gambling excessively is one of the responsible things.
Yes that's right, there will be many things that he forgot and also harmed themselves. What I wonder is that most of those who gamble irresponsibly do not think about the losses that have occurred, so they continue to gamble even though they lose and lose. I appreciate the enthusiasm they have, but this enthusiasm they have, can harm them themselves. Excessive expectations that make them chase big wins that are not obtained even difficult. So the fault lies with themselves not with the gambling.
1956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I learnt from a crackhead about gambling on: November 29, 2023, 09:02:38 AM
~ Any addiction will definitely have a negative effect on the mind and health. Even though the effects will definitely be different, we will still feel different effects. We don't know which is more dangerous, gambling addiction or drug addiction, because we try to avoid all addictions, especially gambling addiction. Moreover, we often gamble so there is a possibility that we may experience a gambling addiction. But if an addict can cure himself, that is something that needs to be appreciated because to be able to heal himself requires a lot of hard work and belief that he can heal himself.

Drug addiction is definitely more dangerous. Why? Because gambling makes you put your money at stake, while when you take drugs it's your health is what at stake, and you will surely lose in the long run, it's not like with gambling. People say that with gambling you will surely lose all your money in the long run. That's not true. And that you are guaranteed to lose at least something is not true either. There are gamblers that are in profit from their gambling activities. A small portion, yes, but they exist. But no one is "in profit" from drug usage. Gambling addiction is a terrible disease, but it's more easily cured than drug addiction.

That's true, but I would like to add a little bit, drug addiction or gambling is just as detrimental, both of these things have adverse effects and are also dangerous. First, both of these things involve money which is an important role, both of these things cannot be done if there is no money in drugs as far as I know "there is money, there is goods". And in gambling "there is money, there is a game" that's what I know. And secondly, addiction to gambling or drugs will harm their health sooner or later their health will be damaged because they are always concerned with their addiction, that way they will damage their health, for example drugs are obvious if addicted to this one thing health is at stake, drugs can damage thinking, depression, anxiety, and severe mental disorders. Gambling addiction will damage health, relationships, attitudes, mindsets can also lead to mental disorders as well as drugs, there is nothing good in these two things if they have entered addiction. It would be nice to gamble just for fun, avoid addiction and also avoid things that trigger addiction. As for drugs, I think it's better not to be rash.
1957  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: November 29, 2023, 08:36:10 AM
And that's where it goes wrong, with limited income but they still insist on continuing to gamble by aiming for big wins, they are not aware of the true meaning of gambling, if only they could realize that gambling is just for fun based on games, maybe they wouldn't have lost so much, It is important to have boundaries and a good mindset because of this, those who chase the victory unknowingly have lost a lot of money, may not have a good mindset and do not have boundaries in gambling, so they can spend a lot of money to gamble with the big wins they pursue. Right what you said, I think they are better off opening their own casino that will generate a lot of profit for themselves, but how to open a casino? they just gamble with the aim of getting a big win in the sense that they need a lot of money and that means they don't have a lot of money, if that's like that how can they open their own casino? just gambling with the aim of making money. Maybe they have to wait until they get a big win or what is called a jackpot, then they can put shares or open the casino they want. Quite impossible, but there's no harm in hoping hahaha.
If they could think clearly that gambling was just for fun, they would not try harder to try to win the game. In fact, they will increasingly try to limit their gambling activities because they do not want to experience more losses. Moreover, they will also find it difficult to win gambling games, let alone make gambling a permanent income. Fixed income means they can get income every week or month, which we already know is very difficult to get. We can't always win from gambling but we can easily experience defeat. Therefore, we should not use gambling as a job, let alone want to generate income because we will experience difficulties. And we should also limit our gambling activities so as not to lose more money. People who do not limit their gambling activities will only experience bigger losses than other gamblers, so we should not experience that.

By gambling for the purpose of seeking pleasure you can also avoid big losses in my opinion. Because if the goal is like that, they will not experience greed, irritation, revenge which could cause them to suffer losses later. It's not a bad thing if they gamble with the aim of looking for fun, because that's why they shouldn't use gambling as a permanent income to make a profit if that's not recommended, as many say, gambling is entertainment in the form of games that pay if they want to make a profit. they better work.
Benefits in gambling do exist but it cannot be guaranteed that they will be easy to get, and many people still misunderstand gambling so that they continue to chase losses by spending a lot of their money and savings. If he is stubborn, it will be difficult to wake him up.
So in my opinion, it's better to just leave it alone and let him do what he likes as long as it doesn't harm other people, but if it harms other people, it's better if we urge that person to realize that what they're doing is wrong.
1958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: November 29, 2023, 08:15:53 AM
That's what I mean, as much as possible we should be able to control greed that will make everything a mess, by controlling greed it can avoid losses that will come later, for example when getting a win immediately it might be better to cash it in, not following the ego that leads to continue the game, that way we can be said to have good self-control because we can cash in on the winnings we get and we can also fight the greed. It is difficult but there is no harm, because it can also have a good impact on us. If gambling continues by always following the ego that leads to greed like that there will be no end, but will only make us go deeper with the amount of money lost due to gambling. So as much as possible must have limits when gambling because all of that we ourselves have full control.
Also self-control that must be owned and strengthened more, because it also has an important role in gambling that can make us limit existing gambling, especially when getting a win. When getting a win, of course, control plays a very big role, because if you don't have strong self-control, you can lose the winnings you have gotten again because you bet it again, and that must be avoided, how? one of them is by having strong self-control, because it can limit us when gambling and it can also save us from the risk of big losses.
What you say is correct because by winning, it means that we are luckier than other gamblers and must immediately stop gambling and cash out and not decide to continue gambling. This is to avoid greed, which can become greater because there will definitely be a desire that tells us to continue gambling without taking a break. None of this would happen if we had good self-control because we could restrain ourselves from continuing to gamble. We should also know about it, especially since we have experienced and had that experience before. So before it's too late, we should immediately decide to stop gambling and leaving the casino is the best choice we can to avoid big losses by continuing to gamble again. Many gamblers have decided to continue gambling after winning. But the results were unexpected because many of them ended up losing very big and even having to spend all their winnings. That's the point if we have good self-control so that we won't be tempted by everything in the casino and can prevent ourselves from spending the winnings. We still have plenty of time to gamble again another day so we need to rest after winning or losing so that we won't be triggered to continue gambling.

It would be better for all gamblers to be able to do so, by cashing in the winnings they have earned, not by continuing the game because of greed and wanting a bigger win, it is possible that they will lose, even it is certain that they will experience things they do not want, such as losing, it may make them annoyed in the end and regret it. When we win, there must be a feeling of greed that drives us to continue the game. This will definitely happen and be felt by the person who wins, but the control lies with each of us. How we respond to the winnings we have gotten, if we continue to play means we follow our ego, if we immediately cash out means we can fight the greed that is inside us. But it's good to fight greed, because greed can make us lose the winnings we have earned. By cashing out the winnings you've earned and going away to enjoy the winnings you've earned, then you can come back one day to continue playing. They can do that if they can fight their greed well so that they won't have unwanted losses. So in my opinion, they should cash out the winnings they have earned, not continuing the game would be better.
1959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: November 29, 2023, 07:52:25 AM
Indeed. There are many factors affecting the outcome of a play. For instance, in sportsbetting, it's mostly reliant to skills and knowledge. It's essential that you are updated with the current happenings about the player and the team itself in general. Having a background knowledge about the team record will be beneficial as well to know which has the higher odds of winning based on their track records. Although yes, luck still does play a part in sportsbetting because at the last minute, tables can turn. So it's important to at least consider shocking turns happening the last part or when you least expect it. But of course, still base most of your assessment on your knowledge and information at hand. 

I guess it will just know depends on the perspective whether it's a lucky or bad day. After all, it varies. If you want to make profit, losing is really terrible. But you can always do better next time around. Just remember to not be too greedy.
Specific games would be having that specific factors on which it could affect out winning results, if we do speak about to those luck based games then this is something that
we cant really be able to tell since everything is random but if we do speak about sports betting then factors known will really be giving out that kind of effect.
Speaking about gambling learning in terms of behavior and other similar aspects then it would be entirely be depending since not all would really be that too
mindful about gambling effects.

Usually people would be able to learn up something on the time that they are experiencing bad things, but before those things to happen then they wont really be showing
any care or totally that too careless on making decisions and actions just because you do let greed and emotions do control you.
This is why we should really be that careful.

Basically gambling also does have a random system, which will not fully guarantee victory. And there are also many factors that can be done to avoid the risk of loss, because the chances of winning are smaller than the chances of losing, that's a fact. It is true that you say not all people who gamble pay attention to the effects of gambling, which is where the losses that have been experienced also sometimes they just let it go without thinking about it so they just keep gambling and gambling.
Most of them also can't fight the greed that controls them so they only focus on chasing wins, while they have experienced many losses that are detrimental to themselves. Not being able to control themselves, their ego, and emotions can make them fall deeper into gambling that will harm them.
1960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: November 29, 2023, 07:32:07 AM
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maybe they should work as staff in gambling maybe that can help them to be successful even by being staff in a gambling company. I think that to succeed just as a player is very difficult, there is a chance maybe but not big, it all comes back to their luck that will give them the victory. And they should not gamble until they spend their money let alone spend their savings.

A gambling career will not be achievable for everyone, but if you work as a gambling company staff member, you have the potential for a sustainable career. There are many positions that can be chosen for a career in a gambling company, but if you have a career by being an active gambler, I'm not sure whether that can be called a career or just a gambler. Maybe the only option is to become an affiliate. Moreover, if he becomes an active gambler, I think this is not a career, considering that there is a possibility that he will not get any income.

As I said before "Maybe" they can be successful with gambling if they become staff at a gambling company, that's possible I'm not sure. Because everyone has their own luck and luck is different, not everyone has luck only in gambling, it could be that they have luck outside of gambling such as in work or in their hobbies that can bring in income. All depends on their own luck.

Yes because it should be like that, if they do not spend money or deposit money in gambling, they will not be able to gamble, because money is the main role in gambling, there is money they can play but if there is no money they will not be able to play simple like that. They will not be able to succeed from gambling which is just an entertainment in the form of a game, therefore it is impossible to succeed because it is not a job like in general, right what you said, if they want to succeed by involving gambling, maybe they should work as staff in gambling maybe that can help them to be successful even by being staff in a gambling company. I think that to succeed just as a player is very difficult, there is a chance maybe but not big, it all comes back to their luck that will give them the victory. And they should not gamble until they spend their money let alone spend their savings.
Instead of spending money on gambling to make money, it is better for them to just look for a job where they can make more money and spend less money even though the money will be used to meet their living needs later. But by working, they can earn money and will not become addicted to gambling, which can endanger their lives, let alone spending all the money and valuables in their house. It would not be worth it for many people to gamble because it is by gambling that they will lose more money without being able to hope to make any money. Getting success from gambling or making a career from gambling will not be as easy as they imagine because they have to gamble before they can make money but that doesn't guarantee they can make money. That is why it would not be advisable to make money from gambling or make a career out of gambling. Moreover, we have seen many people lose a lot of money when they were gambling.

Yes that's right, there must be daily needs where they have to meet those needs, if they still want to gamble I think they can limit their budget for gambling, so they don't gamble excessively. Because if luck is on their side they can get a win even if they play only occasionally, rather than continuing to play often to pursue victory but luck is not on their side it will only spend their money. It will not be easy to succeed by gambling, it is better to play reasonably and when they are lucky to get a win it can make them open a business or start a business and then they have to pursue success from the business they have. Do not force yourself to gamble by chasing victory, it is very unnatural.
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