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1941  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Jamaine Ortiz - October 29 on: October 07, 2022, 11:10:15 AM
^ Yes, same expectation as others, he should be showing us a good performance in this comeback fight. We missed him already when he involved himself to protect his homeland. But it's time that he goes back fighting against like his compatriot in Usyk. So if he wins by knockout or a complete shut out of Ortiz in the judges card, I'm not going to be surprised as this is the Loma that we are familiar since he become a champion.
1942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why 95% online Gambling websites are Scam? on: October 07, 2022, 10:47:51 AM
Hi guys I know That it silly thing because gambling is a thing in which only casino wins
.and a user will always loose it's money. And gambling makes people poor and drain everything from money to joy. And that sucks.
In 2017 I was introduced by Bitsler.com
This website took me at least 2000 dollars a that time. There was a time when I have at least 3 ETHER at the rate of dollars. And I regret that day when I lost everything. And that took my life from me. And that was the was the day I never entered this type of scams ever. And I know people will say that we become greedy. But system is designed I n such way that it took people money and everything that we had. And I know it just that hard.
Because that's how gambling business operations work. They have the house edge, you can't beat that. But there are days that you are going to be lucky and you should take that opportunity and logout once you win.

But if you comeback and play for more thinking that you can duplicate your winnings, chances are, you are going to lose. So the system is not a scam per se, it's just up to you how you control your emotions and not to fall for your greediness.
1943  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin's Price be affected by this? on: October 06, 2022, 10:40:39 AM
I guess we are done with Elon Musk and his twitter acquisition drama. So I would agree what most of the posters said, it will not have a significant effect as far as the price goes. Maybe if we see Elon as pro-Bitcoin, but we have seen how we change his stance specially with this whole crazy idea that bitcoin is not eco-friendly. Majority of us stop believing in him. He can do whatever he pleases with his new company, but crypto market will always be a separate entity from any self made billionaire.
1944  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Jamaine Ortiz - October 29 on: October 06, 2022, 09:47:07 AM
I miss the days when there were also world title fights in the undercards. Legendary Manny Pacquiao for instance used to defend his title while on the undercards like during the Lewis-Tyson fight. Glorious days for boxing. Now it's all about playing safe and money.

Boxers these days are moving like they were the promoters or organizers rather than boxers, they are too attached and more interested to know the money business instead of focusing in making their own legacy to be known in the industry just like the good old days. Probably the reason why almost all known boxers in the industry had built their own promotional company after their professional years.
I guess the boxers really wanted to know how much they are making and probably wanted to know if their promoters are really paying them for how much they worth.

We all know that in the past, boxers like Floyd decided to be their own manager and challenge Bob Arum that time because he wanted more. And so he is partly to blame for boxers now becoming businessman and wanted to know the business side of boxing, instead of just focusing on the fight itself.

We can understand that boxers nowadays would like to level up on the earnings of the promoter, they seemed to think that they are the one investing money to make the right happen, I'd say it's a wrong attitude, that's being greedy, but then, I could be wrong though, just stating my personal opinion.
But it doesn't mean that they are greedy any way, as I have said, you need to know not just how much money go are getting, but the overall value of your fight based on who is your dance partner. Maybe there will be fights that you wonder why you get less money as compare to lets say facing fighter A, something like that and hope you get my point. It's not greedy per definition, yes maybe it's going to be complicated for them, but if they see themselves as businessnman then nothing is wrong with that I would say.
1945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Reputation on: October 06, 2022, 09:32:21 AM
You're a professional like a lawyer or a teacher in a respected university, will it harm your reputation if people around you or your students discover that you are into gambling, you're not really a compulsive gambler but gamble for entertainment, how will you explain this to people around you or will you explain to protect your reputation or just ignore them.

It depends on which country do I live. Some countries are really conservative and finding out that a respectable member of the society is involved in such activities would damage his reputation for sure. Other countries are more liberal and the society isn't very strict about "controlling" the personal life of it's most respectable members. After all, we are adults and we have the right to have some fun once in a while.
If I was a teacher, I would do the best I can to hide the fact that I'm gambling. We live in the 21st century and online gambling is a thing.
I wouldn't bother visiting offline casinos so that someone I know would see me there.
I would say that maybe some Asian countries are very strict in terms of reputation and they want to protect it at all cost. But if they were reveal to be involved in gambling, then, I will assume that they will resign from their post or move out.

But for let's say an European countries that is liberal and open, it won't affect them, maybe even a MP in their country won't be bothered if they are to be found gambling in some place or even in their home country.
1946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Estrada vs Chocolatito - Trilogy - Dec 3, 2022 on: October 06, 2022, 08:56:40 AM
Chocolatito is the better fighter but judges seem to want to see a trilogy for the promoters to make money if they pick the fight where they left then Chocolatito will have the advantage and the win, Estrada should show something new here, In both fights Chocolatito always gets the better of the exchanges, what I like about the two fighters is their style, they love to engage and stand toe to toe and that's what we are going to see in their third fight.

They should really settle for the last time since Choco is getting old and already passed his prime. Another exciting trilogy we will have this year and this one should also be settled for the fans and both boxers to remove any doubt in their last fights. I think this one will be the best since they both gonna give their best to prove to everyone that they are the best boxer against each other. maybe This time they won't let the judges decide who gonna win and they will gonna wrap it up when they see an opportunity to finish one another.

They say style makes a fight and a trilogy can only happen if we have fighters that compliment each other style, like the Marquez - Pacquiao fights and the boxing community always support trilogies because it the continuation of the excitement of the previous two fights, I'm sure both fighters will show up to fight hopefully one of them will end this trilogy, its a legacy fight for both fighters I hope Chocolatito wins this one, so he can cement his legacy, Estrada can still go on as he is still young.
I think Gonzalez already cemented his legacy in the 115 lbs as he had defeated a lot of great fighters in this division. But it seems he had met his match against a tough Mexican in Estrada. Of course, we will support trilogies as boxing fans, recently we just saw the Canelo vs GGG fight although it seems that GGG is already past his prime as he was dominated by Canelo. But this fight is still 50/50 in my opinion, although Chocolatito seems to the betting favorite, but not going to be easy match for him.
1947  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 06, 2022, 08:39:13 AM

The game is not that interested when the superstars aren't playing because we can't really feel the intensity if the lead players aren't there. But these pre-season games are also good because the other players in the roster can establish their skills to the public and it's a good warm-up for both teams before the season will start, formally.

Also, just like what you've said, pre-season games don't really matter so it's not really embarrassing if Bucks or Grizzlies will get defeated. But speaking of embarrassment this pre-season games, it's hard not to mention the Phoenix Suns because they got defeated and bullied by a non-NBA team named Adelaide 36ers especially when the trio of the Suns was there playing. Can't really imagine what the Point God, CP3 felt after the game.

Yup! I really don't think much about the Preseason game for the NBA and It really doesn't matter for them to lose the game aswell but showing their bench players their ability for the team and putting up teams up that the team also isn't using much and seeing their chemistry as well,

Well that game is also a preseason and I don't really know if the Phoenix Suns intentionally lost to the Adelaide 36ers as I mention the Phoenix Suns also just using the bench players for this game it is like they are really underestimating the Adelaide 36ers, but the fans of the Phoenix Suns is not happy about them losing to a non-NBA team like that they should have put in the effort of just winning,

Right, that game is not that important and pre-season was created to give time for each team to establish their plan and to know if it's good or not to draw it again. Just like the game of Lakers and Kings, the Lakers lost the game but their starters played for just 15 minutes or less and then they let the bench players play right after while the Kings let their starting five play all the way. There's indeed a difference, people should know that it's not that important including the Sun's situation versus the 36ers.
It's true, but for me this is a good chance to see how the player chemistry is, and of course if they are going to win their new team mates. I remember last year with the Lakers line up, highly anticipated and we say that it is not that important, as the impression on them is just like half baked. But look at how the team turns out to be in the regular season, but we can argue that it was due to injuries to their franchise like AD and Lebron that really contributed to their downfall.
1948  Other / Archival / Re: Q4 2022. What to expect from bitcoin? on: October 05, 2022, 09:22:08 PM
An increase of 5% will not change the price much, then 22,000 is enough to end the year with an increase compared to the previous quarter.
Therefore, even the conclusion on a high does not mean a high rise because of all the variables that are happening in the world.
Returning to the 30K levels seems like a dream at the moment due to the huge resistance at the 25K levels.
Yes, maybe $25k is enough for me at least at the end of the year. In the background as you have said there are a lot of factors affecting world economy and it will affect the market as well. So if the world continue to suffer, then the market will be down in the last 3 months with minor price increase to $25k. $30k levels? at least we should have some good news to bring back the life in the market at this price range but I'm not sure if we are going to see something that big that will push it to $30k.
1949  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is BEAR Market In Stock Market Like Cryptocurrency Market? on: October 05, 2022, 09:03:01 PM
I have seen that Bitcoin is always goes in bull and also bear market seasons and in these cycles only big whales are earning and they wil be always be millionaires.
But in Stock market that has lasted almost decades to centuries and I do not know if they have also been going like Cryptocurrency market.
Could be different in terms of volatility obviously, both markets are connected, but if you can see last month, when bitcoin is like -10% because of the CPI, the stock market is just like -2% to high of -4%. And then we have the 4 year cycle in crypto, but I doubt that stocks have this one. It's either they will be in a long bull run.

I think that united States dollars was in bearish for many years when Us Has war with Afghanistan. And now I think it is in bull run season for many years though United States economy is not too strong.
So there are many Big members that might have knowledge can address Me.
I'm not that expert, but isn't it the dollar weakening right now as the US economy is in recession? And if they are in a bull run then why we have the housing projects problems in the past?
1950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 05, 2022, 08:41:53 PM
Fun game by the New Orleans Pelicans versus the Chicago Bulls.
The bench players' performance in the last quarter of the game made it look like it was a regular season.  Cheesy
NOP 129 - Bulls 125

The Pelicans look great, and Zion looks good (I can't tell if some weight was lost). They are a solid team and their bench looks promising too with Willy Hernangomez who won the Fiba Eurobasket MVP.
If healthy, I think they have a great chance to make a top seed. They will probably be one of the favorites this season.

I don't usually watch pre-season games because they aren't serious games. But I'm also excited at how the healthy Pelicans will end up this season. Their line-up is already good so all they need now is to perform well. I heard that Zion is on a seafood diet. Hopefully, it's not a giant octopus or tuna per meal. Cheesy

Chicago Bulls acquired veteran Goran Dragic and Andre Drummond to boost their line-up this season. So I am also hoping they can also perform well. I want to see Vucevic bring back his Orlando Magic stats.   

We all know that no one actually cares about pre-season games. But this game was close. Something amazed me and that is Vucevic got 11 rebounds and scored 15 points. This was a great effort from him even though it was just a pre-season match. 
But it can be a good measurement to see how teams are, specially those who have upgraded their roster.

The pelicans are in really good shape. They have shown that in this match. I believe when the season finally starts their performance is going to be much better.
See, we all get excited to watch a new version of Pelicans or Zion, he clearly losses a lot of weight and move very different and so we want to see him more and hopefully the team will be different with him and Ingram.

Goran Dragic and Andre Drummond are going to be important for the success of the Bulls. These are two good players that they brought in. Drummond has shown good performance in this match as well.
They need to be consistent and again, we just hope that they will be healthy and no more injuries to their star players. At least he had a god back up in Drummond and a experience point guard in Dragic.
1951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: October 05, 2022, 08:25:00 PM
Bivol will have a good chance to win this fight in my opinion. And if he does, his manager will look at what fight is best for him financially. And it seems that it will be Canelo, in my opinion.

The unification fight with Beterbiev may have to wait, yes they are the two best boxers of the division, and they need to face each other. But Arum will protect Beterbiev and so he will let him face Canelo to be soften up. And if my memory serves me right. Beterbiev is injured.

There is an issue for Bivol, if he decides for a rematch against Canelo. Canelo would insist that the match needs to take place within the United States. And if that happens, it will be near impossible for Bivol to receive any payments or share from the PPV buys (since he is a Russian citizen). Therefore I am not sure how excited will be Bivol for a fight against Canelo. Artur Beterbiev on the other hand is a Canadian citizen, and may agree for a fight in Saudi Arabia or some of the other neutral countries. The same with Gilberto Ramírez as well.
But I guess they should have at least made some efforts by now on how they can get the payment to Bivol? Everyone wanted to see his fight, the demand is there to held the fight in the US because of Canelo's followers and fans. But both side or at least Bivols' manager should have a plan outwit or bypass it. They can't remove Bivol at this point, he is other champion in LHW division. Ramirez is still the outsider unless be beat Bivol in their fight. And if ever he beats him, Canelo already insisted that he won't face Mexican next.
1952  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: My worst day in gambling on: October 05, 2022, 08:04:44 PM
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This is what I hate about unsuccessful gambling: when you lose not only your money, but a lot of your time too. Hope this won't happen to you again.

This is a very controversial issue. I also often thought about this, for example: in half a year I won X money on betting. If you distribute it over time and take into account how much time I spent watching the games and thinking about what bet to make, this is a completely unprofitable activity. On the other hand, I spent mostly my free time on this + in return I got emotions and joy from when the results were successful. It's very hard to calculate the "balance" of what you've spent and what you've earned when you look back.
True, and that is one of the worst thing that I hate, during and after gambling. I mean you look forward to play and very excited and probably skip some of what you need to do that day or even your job. And then you play and lose big money, you doesn't feel good, your mind is thinking that you wanted to recoup, you feel lethargic and can't get up in bed and then you call your office or you boss that you are sick and can't go and work that day.  Cheesy
1953  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Quidax is one of the best and secure Exchange platform on: October 04, 2022, 08:49:24 PM
It's sound like "Marketing Word" ~xd

You're the owner? who can guarantee it's safe ~LOL No body is know is safe or not until there has some case hacked. I'm not buying a word something like this, there always have some loop hole.

The question is only, when the loop hole can be found.
True, sooner or later there will be loop hole, every exchange do have some exploits and it's going to be hard once they got hack or started scamming their customers.

In any case if the OP is doing a marketing on this exchange, then based on the post of the other members, they have qualms about it (including me), and I would say that traders are getting smarter and they would just used a exchange that has a reputation and proven itself in the market already, not this new exchange that suddenly pop up and the market ploy here is questionable.
1954  Economy / Speculation / Re: October price guess on: October 04, 2022, 08:34:18 PM
The month of October historically is a favorable month for Bitcoin , it's just about two or three times that Bitcoin price plunged in month  October. We have double bottom forming on the weekly time frame and if we have the neck line gets broken, Then $30k is the price target , whIch is very likely to happen since we didn't close below the previous lows $17.5k in the month of September.
I don't think that October is favorable month because we are still in the bear market. Wow, $30k target? We can't get even further after $22k in the last couple of months. So I highly doubt that we will suddenly go and reach $30k this month.

With all this, It's becoming a bit clearer to me that $30000 per Bitcoin my price prediction could be achieved towards the end of October looking at the chart patterns ,everything is making sense at the moment.
As much as I want this price level this month, I will just not put too much expectation on this price, to be honest. It's good that we will see above $20k, or even $22k. But $25k-$30k, we might have a difficult time breaching that, just saying.
1955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: October 04, 2022, 08:17:24 PM
If ever Bivol wins this fight, I do not think that his priority is Canelo.  I think Bivol is eyeing title fights so possibly Artur Beterbiev.
No way, challenging Beterbiev is just make Bivol career will end since Beterbiev might become the winner. So it doesn't make sense for Canelo challenging Bivol anymore, there's no belt on their fight. Bivol vs Beterbiev will become a big match since both of them are the only have belts on light heavyweight division, rematch may possible to happen too. I don't see many good boxers on light heavyweight division.

We never knew until these two great boxers Bivol (if ever he wins against Ramirez) and Beterbiev face each other in the ring.  I greatly agree this would be a huge match if ever the deal between the two camps is sealed.  But of course, Bivol need to face Ramirez first and Ramirez promised to beat Bivol and bring back the title to his country.
Bivol will have a good chance to win this fight in my opinion. And if he does, his manager will look at what fight is best for him financially. And it seems that it will be Canelo, in my opinion.

The unification fight with Beterbiev may have to wait, yes they are the two best boxers of the division, and they need to face each other. But Arum will protect Beterbiev and so he will let him face Canelo to be soften up. And if my memory serves me right. Beterbiev is injured.
1956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Jamaine Ortiz - October 29 on: October 04, 2022, 11:48:41 AM
I miss the days when there were also world title fights in the undercards. Legendary Manny Pacquiao for instance used to defend his title while on the undercards like during the Lewis-Tyson fight. Glorious days for boxing. Now it's all about playing safe and money.

Boxers these days are moving like they were the promoters or organizers rather than boxers, they are too attached and more interested to know the money business instead of focusing in making their own legacy to be known in the industry just like the good old days. Probably the reason why almost all known boxers in the industry had built their own promotional company after their professional years.
I guess the boxers really wanted to know how much they are making and probably wanted to know if their promoters are really paying them for how much they worth.

We all know that in the past, boxers like Floyd decided to be their own manager and challenge Bob Arum that time because he wanted more. And so he is partly to blame for boxers now becoming businessman and wanted to know the business side of boxing, instead of just focusing on the fight itself.
1957  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 433 Winners to split $4,015,156.265 6/55 Grand Lotto Jackpot on: October 04, 2022, 11:28:24 AM
Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds?  Roll Eyes
with that eye-roll, it seems like you are being sarcastic when you say "the winners defied the odds?". anyway, despite me thinking that there was no manipulation, I think an investigation should be done to prove no manipulation happened but knowing how Filipinos react to this kind of situation, they won't believe it(or at least the majority) if it was proven no manipulation happened.
Investigation can help, but knowing the government I’m sure it will just a waste of time.
Yes, I don't think that they will find something concrete here, and if I'm not mistaken, PCSO has existed for many years so it's very hard to proved something.

There’s a lot of issues going on with our government right now, It’s sad but hopefully those winners are real and let’s just be happy for them, as long as all the winners will get their reward. Now this can be a proof that more winners are possible with Lottery, despite of the doubt about the system.
As someone said, it's around $10k each so that is a huge amount of money for each winner. And so if there is a investigation, it might take months or even years to claim their money. So it will not be far for the honest one. So It's better to give the prize money first in my opinion.
1958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Estrada vs Chocolatito - Trilogy - Dec 3, 2022 on: October 03, 2022, 08:04:43 PM
I voted for Chocolatito, even though he is the older and they say that he is already past his prime, but if you put a fighter like Estrada in front of him (his rival), for sure it will bring the best out of him again.

Yes, I do agree that the fight is controversial, specially the 1st one, and so obviously they needed a 3rd fight to settle down the score. Chocolatito is the harder puncher for me and as the rounds go further, we will see him out punch Estrada in terms of volume, so this will end on the card and Chocolatito with majority or split decision win.
1959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 03, 2022, 07:30:04 PM
There is nothing to be ashamed of. It is only a preseason game. At most, it is just a warm-up and to see how the new members of the roster will play and iron kinks in their play before the regular season starts.
Exactly, it's not a serious one, it's just an exhibition game.

I also love how Sotto played, he scored a double-digit and was effective on the court.
Well, actually 39ers played with good teamwork compared to the Sun, so they deserved that win, but then again, it's just preseason, not a serious game.
I am pretty sure that most of the players in Suns probably were out drinking and having fun instead of care about a preseason game after all. This is friendly like we have in football and we all know how unimportant they are as well, so I am not really expecting Suns to play with serious win desire, they just wanted to go around and have fun and take selfies with the fans and maybe more.

That's why they lost, it was just for entertainment purposes and there were no incentives to win it and they had fun and came back. When the season starts again, we will see how good they are again and they will be fighting for each win, when it matters.
Yeah, this is pure exhibition game so everyone is just having fun from the side so we shouldn't take the lost for the Suns very seriously. Actually for true fans of the game, we understand it. But the social media though, they turn it into something very bid and make fun of the whole Phoenix teams.

Anyone interested on watching KD, Irving and Simmons playing in the opener tomorrow?

I think everyone wanted to see how this will turn out..
1960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 01, 2022, 04:37:32 AM
First preseason game is in the books. The warriors beat the wizards in spite of the warriors starting 5 shooting 7 for 34. The bright spot was Wiseman who got 20 points on 8 for 11 shooting. Kerr keeps saying Wiseman isn’t ready and won’t get a lot of minutes this year but I’m hoping that isn’t the case. If the Warriors can get him minutes they’ll be pretty hard to stop with a legit center. He looks ready to me.

Just pre-season though, so perhaps everyone was rusty on the side of the Warriors.

I do agree that it's time for us to see how Wiseman is, highly touted prospect but got injured. So if he is 100% already, then Kerr should not put him in restricted minutes and give him like 20 minutes per game. I guess the Warriors are used to have Looney in the middle. But for sure Wiseman could offer more and help them out this season.
Kerr not impressed with Wiseman performance but he can still use him in games after all he's one brilliant player in the team and not having him present during game might make Wiseman lose form. Wiseman is underrated in the team because of the present of Looney and some other keyplayers in the team, Kerr should not understimate him and use him when necessary. Talking about 20 minutes per game, that will do currently rather than keeping him on the bench.
How can you say that the coach himself is not impressed with Wiseman performance? Of course we consider Wiseman as a rookie because he haven't played that much game as a pro, but he seems to be talented and many basketball analyst says that the Warriors is hard to defeat once he is inserted into the pictures.

He will be utilized for sure, and Draymond wanted to see this kid developed into their one of their future stars.
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