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2021  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2019, 09:22:46 AM
https://www.asus.com/us/Phone/ROG-Phone-II/

I don't need this. I mean, it is quite shiny, but I don't need it.

Maybe I get it ironically, just to prove how absurd it is.

It s always good to know, what's NOT needed.

We are mostly totally hijacked by sophisticated  ads and sales mashinery
2022  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: September 08, 2019, 09:12:03 AM
tja dann wünsch ich euch viel spaß auf eurem hopiumrausch. ich bin immernoch fleissig am shorten. so lange es seitwärts geht wird meines erachtens nach das risiko größer dass der kurs weiter fällt.

Bakkt wird genau das Gegenteil bewirken was die moonboys sich ausmalen, erst wenn die sich die Jungs die Taschen voll gemacht haben geht's durch die Decke.

Bitcoin shorten wiederspricht jedoch meinen moralischen Werten

Interessant, derzeit ist immernoch sehr viel public news bezüglich Geldwäsche und Terrorfinanzieung zu btc . Silkrooad, coinmixer, coinjoin, Vernachlässigung der Signaturen (segwit), LN ( AML erschwerend) usw...
Die grossen (Banken, usw) mit viel Geld wissen dies, wehren sich gegen diese Art von Bitcoin, auch nach 10 Jahren noch... wenn ein länderübergreifendes Verbot kommt, dann sind die Shorts alle im Plus...

Die bottom up Bewegung kann nicht viel dagegen machen, die ist womöglich all in.

Moralisch wäre ein short global das 'Richtige', solange keine durchgängige Sauberkeit und Transparenz erkennbar ist. Moralisch gilt für die grossen Institutionen ein erhöhtes Due Dilligence Gebot. Da fällt so einiges an cryptos total durch (dankt es den illegalen ICOs usw). Sorry
2023  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Still "Finding Satoshi" then ... on: September 08, 2019, 08:17:10 AM
Why is everyone so obsessed looking for Satoshi Nakamoto when he doesn't even want to be found? Same thing with claiming yourselves to be Satoshi when you're not. I know it's because of curiosity. But let's stop putting most of our attention about it, he'll appear if he wants to show himself to the public. Let's just continue to support and spread bitcoin for greater adoption.

Absolutely, we should better honor his work and try to understand it - not alter it before that s not done.

The adoption comes if all is stable, at purpose (honest, transparent and legal) and scalable
2024  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig Wright is official a fraud on: September 08, 2019, 08:10:25 AM
Why didn't he just use Bitcoin signmessage command?Genius in simplicity and all that.

he did do that but since he is fake and doesn't have the private keys, he tried to fool people into thinking the fake signature he provided was real. to do that he contacted a lot of different personalities including bitcoin core developers to back him up, everyone showed him the middle finger except Gavin lol.

The signing dose not prove it.

It is just a 'little' part of , an good indication.

Would you ask any PhD or CEO or ... To come up with the prove u little boy might accept the the guy has done PhD or is CEO, ore anything he seems to be? These ppl prove P2P most of the things not,to trolls

Nope. The prove was always in the pudding. Do your own due dilligence is always recommended, PoW
2025  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig Wright is official a fraud on: September 08, 2019, 08:06:42 AM
I never in a single day think about this shit you all call Craig who claimed to be satoshi , we all know he is lying and that he will never be the man behide the bitcoin and now he got himself shot from his lies , to pay a whole lots of bitcoin that he never had even if he sold his shit coin "BSV " he will still definitely be in debt and that is what happen to people like him and the follower should open their eyes now and dump the shit coin for real btc.

With the little help of Plato, we know, that we know nearly nothing


Hahaha. That's very amusing, quoting Plato to justify a fraudster's actions, and to cause the on-lookers to believe that they are to blame for his mistakes.

Nope, you just changing the goalpost, I just say that its not easy to find out about the truth.
2026  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-08-31] Bitcoin bank accounts now available to European citizens on: September 08, 2019, 08:04:32 AM
Why would someone had to be a bank if you are the bank of your own money? It's just like you are putting your Bitcoin to another exchange site promising to hold it for you yet you know what would happen next. I'm not gonna send my Bitcoin onto them...ever. Be your own wallet, your keys, your Bitcoin, no ones ever controlling or taking it away from you.

Bitcoin is rather a financial protocol

Not a bank
2027  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig S. Wright ALIAS Faketoshi News: 'The Tulip Trust' is proven to be fake on: September 07, 2019, 08:17:58 PM
Yet another statement/claim made by CW proven to be fake, can't wait for another sue attempt against CW Tongue

Nope, he just cannot prove anything to trolls, there is no way to do it.

And he also can't prove anything to non-troll (journalist, cryptographer, etc.)

If one can't prove his/her claim, then he/she shouldn't state such claim in first time.

Right, seems he never really  wanted to.


2028  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig S. Wright ALIAS Faketoshi News: 'The Tulip Trust' is proven to be fake on: September 07, 2019, 03:25:04 PM
Any ppl try to govern Bitcoin and grap the power and alter it for sake of any hidden agenda, these are the liars. In that view CSW is not, but all others want him to be the liar, don't getting real evidence, rather only fishy hints he might.

he is the liar no matter how you define being a liar means.
his attempts has been of power grabbing agenda and personal profit making type. on top of that his lies are not just about claiming to be Satoshi, but insisting on it for years and even be foolish enough to try and convince people with a fake signature thinking the world is stupid enough to not know how cryptography works!

Nope, he just cannot prove anything to trolls, there is no way to do it.

He did P2P, pretty much like BitCoin works.

So to find out the truth is always about doing PoW, do ur own studies. Like BitCoin works, find ur own blocks.

And doing just trolls a favor, like move a coin, I d not follow such wish either.

This, btw, is also no poof he is Satoshi
2029  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why so little talk of Dave Kleiman? on: September 07, 2019, 02:28:15 PM
And still, it is about W&K, Wright and Kleiman. Why W was leading here in char sequence?

Kleiman was the 'quiet' thinker part I guess, the filter & advisor brain.

CSW is the offensive doer with the ideas (still!),  hands on and 'noisy'. This many ppl don't like...

Very sad he died, BitCoin got derailed...
2030  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2019, 01:59:09 PM
another bcash idiot for my ignore list

saying that segwit is not bitcoin is the same like saying TCP is not IP. it's the same, but it's another layer. TCP can't exist without IP and segtwit can't exist without bitcoin.

We can agree that bcash is not Bitcoin, ignoring is also fine

 Grin
2031  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: September 07, 2019, 01:52:03 PM

Das doch völlig wumpe... so oder so wird der Bitcoiin in den nächsten 10 Jahren bei 1 Mio USD stehen...


Es könnte auch ein globales Bitcoin Verbot kommen. Weil bei der nächsten Finanzkrise die Kapitalflucht in den Bitcoin zum Problem für die Zentralbanker und die Politiker wird. Dann wird zu erst eine gigantische Schmutzkampagne gegen Bitcoin gefahren, z.b. übles spekulations Objekte, das Wirtschaftskrisen auslöst, welches darüber hinaus der Terrorismus Finanzierung dient, und nur für Kinderpornos und von Drogen Dealer im Darknet benutzt wird, etc.

Bei Bitcoin ist alles möglich, auch ein Bitcoin Verbot. Obwohl ich glaube, dass Bitcoin "too Big to fail" ist, seitdem die grossen Jungs an der Wallstreet die ganzen BTC-Finanzprodukte herausgegeben haben. Auf der anderen Seite haben die Wallstreet Boys keine Loyalität gegenüber ihren Finanzprodukten und pressen die Zitrone bis zum letzten Tropfen aus, um sie danach wegzuwerfen. Auch das könnte den Bitcoin zum Fall bringen.

Wie will man bitte ein globales Bitcoin-Verbot durchsetzen? Man bekommt es ja nicht einmal auf die Reihe Atomwaffen global zu verbieten, obwohl diese viel schlimmer für die Globale Bevölkerung sind als BTC. Irgendeiner würde auch bei einem BTC-Verbot aus der Reihe tanzen.

Zu erst geht man gegen die FIAT-Schnittstellen vor. Jede Firma die Bitcoin verkauft oder kauft wird dicht gemacht und die Kundendaten beschlagnahmt. Dann arbeiten die Schergen die Kundenlisten dieser Firmen ab.

Nicht vergessen, es gab auch schon Gold Verbote. Jeder der sein Gold nicht zu einem festgelegten Kurs der Regierung verkaufte, musste mit einer mehrjährigen Gefängnisstrafe rechnen. Bei einer, Wirtschaftskrise bzw. Währungskrise und der damit verbundene Kapitalflucht im grossen Styl sind die Regierungen zu allem bereit. Die werden nicht einfach nur zusehen und Däumchen drehen.

Bei Atomwaffen verhält es sich genau umgekehrt, weil das ein Land unangreifbar macht und ein noch so kleines und unbedeutendes Land durch den Besitz von Atomwaffen zu einer Weltmacht aufsteigen kann. Bei einer Kapitalflucht im grossen Styl ist es genau umgekehrt, das ruiniert ein Land, egal wie gross und bedeutend das Land ist.

Ich sehe das auch gar nicht als so unwahrscheinlich an das Staaten es versuchen werden

https://www.btc-echo.de/burundi-verbietet-bitcoin-handel/

Das letzte grosse Verbotsbeispiel war der Shutdown von Liberty Reserve. Wenn genügend illegales Verhalten über genügend viele Länder passiert, dann wird zusammen durchgegriffen, egal welche Technologie darunter wirkt.

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Reserve
2032  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2019, 01:46:59 PM

Not cool bro, we have a mixed bag of posters here from young to old. Every age group loves and enjoy nudity here, but there is a limit to everything. Please respect that boundary and don't turn this thread into a porn site.

Some might be okay with this, but many will not because you are a new poster. You already got a red tag for BCH's post which I don't agree, but you are not helping your case either.

PS : Not bashing you just letting you know.


Ah... Lauda still abusing the Trust system I see.


Yep, you can have nice decorations when you do not agree on segwit is BitCoin.

Meh
Dude, segwit is bitcoin. Why don't you take your altcoin shilling to the right subforum?

And btw, who tf says/write BitCoin? You lost all your credibility right there.

There's a lot of evidence that Segwit is the alteration. Read the docs, the white paper
2033  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-08-31] Bitcoin bank accounts now available to European citizens on: September 07, 2019, 01:43:44 PM
It's convenient. I hope more and more countries will allow crypto to be introduced into everyday life

Agreed, but as with drugs only one or two might be passing all the regulatory burdens and get fully legally.
2034  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2019, 12:58:21 PM
Anyhew.... Does anyone know what Gavin is doing nowadays?

Wouldn't mind some sanity now.

He was broken by a fat Australian. You will find no sanity in his house.

I've heard he spends his days talking to his model train set and making Close Encounters style mountains out of mashed potato.

Nope, we know he got broken his github keys by Gfat by whatever reasons
2035  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2019, 12:55:46 PM

Not cool bro, we have a mixed bag of posters here from young to old. Every age group loves and enjoy nudity here, but there is a limit to everything. Please respect that boundary and don't turn this thread into a porn site.

Some might be okay with this, but many will not because you are a new poster. You already got a red tag for BCH's post which I don't agree, but you are not helping your case either.

PS : Not bashing you just letting you know.


Ah... Lauda still abusing the Trust system I see.


Yep, you can have nice decorations when you do not agree on segwit is BitCoin.

Meh
2036  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig S. Wright ALIAS Faketoshi News: 'The Tulip Trust' is proven to be fake on: September 07, 2019, 11:54:06 AM
But what makes u sure he wasn t doxxed? He claims in his first interviews that this all shouln t ve happened that way.

He announced to the entire internet that he was Satoshi Nakamoto and then went on to claim that he didn't want any publicity.  That would be like me announcing I'm the second coming of Christ and then saying "but don't tell anyone".  

I get why you're eager to defend the man, as he says lots of things that support your personal views about how Bitcoin should work, but there comes a time where you should probably just recognise him for what he is:  A liar.


We might agree upon that Satoshi is gone and Bitcoin should not need any central figure to ensure governance of it, but that is some ideal that might not be that whatever we have, for sure not with core and BS

Bitcoin should not be about what individuals tell us Bitcoin should be, but what Satoshi has created it.

Any ppl try to govern Bitcoin and grap the power and alter it for sake of any hidden agenda, these are the liars. In that view CSW is not, but all others want him to be the liar, don't getting real evidence, rather only fishy hints he might.

Anyhow all this shows how the social media and fake proofs work these days.

Metanet is about to fix it, despite what CSW says or does.



2037  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: September 07, 2019, 09:44:38 AM
Most I see here is fake evidence and PoSM.

And that's why you are considered to be untrustworthy. You are unable to process incoming information that is contradictory to your outdated, disproven beliefs, despite the fact that the larger crypto community has suspected Craig was a fraud for years and a federal judge confirmed these suspicions in a court ruling.

Craig has a high regard for the law -- you should too. What more authoritative source on the matter do you want?

Another example...

https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1170245602900361217

"Craig Wright - The 2013 Court Australia Fraud

Now that court Florida has determined a 50/50 partnership between Craig and Dave, let's see how much of that "partnership" is truthful.

It seems that this partnership is (partly) based on another fraud. And Ira/court knows it."

There are 'indication'

And

Evidence


Nothing here comes down to evidence and deductive proving.


Trolls as u believe what ur stake tells u should.
Thats all transparent seen all over ur postings here.

Happy honest days.

Previous analysis have been proven right in Court (Trust doesn't exist, forged "pieces of evidence", fake emails and messages), but as a BSV troll you can't just face it.

Welcome to law and truth.

Nope. I m not part of ur fake truth derived by indication and position will.

Truth is only by true EVIDENCE.

Even courts do 50:50  if they dont get it. This law is made by poor human

 Grin
2038  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig S. Wright ALIAS Faketoshi News: 'The Tulip Trust' is proven to be fake on: September 07, 2019, 09:36:15 AM
Some additional info:

https://twitter.com/kyletorpey/status/968187874268114944
Wright used a font called Otto to forge Dave Kleiman's signature

http://archive.is/wiNYc
Dr. Wright and the altered PDF



We could agree on: Some used to do the forgery. No evidence for who actually was it.

In a mass documents producing process for court all the shit might happen as well.

So you think CSW has been bamboozled and he is probably the victim here?

If he really is Satoshi the thing he was doxxed and hacked, it would make sense. He was stating such quite frequently and also when 'he came out" with all of that.

That doesn't make sense at all.
He was not doxxed, but he came out of nowwhere trying to convince people of him being SN using forgery and lies all over his path.

What makes sense is, that he has read about his old colleague computer expert Dave Kleiman (RIP) being one of the people said to be a possible Satoshi Nakamoto candidate. As he was in financial trouble, he used this rumour and Dave Kleimans death to build up his story. I guess the main reason would be to find investors that he can dupe or old creditors that he has to pay.

I see. But what makes u sure he wasn t doxxed? He claims in his first interviews that this all shouln t ve happened that way.

And he was in trouble cause of ATO such that he d to close companies where coworkers got in troubles as well. Even try ti steal his funds ...

Again we have no evidence but things make sense that way
2039  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: September 07, 2019, 09:15:44 AM
Most I see here is fake evidence and PoSM.

And that's why you are considered to be untrustworthy. You are unable to process incoming information that is contradictory to your outdated, disproven beliefs, despite the fact that the larger crypto community has suspected Craig was a fraud for years and a federal judge confirmed these suspicions in a court ruling.

Craig has a high regard for the law -- you should too. What more authoritative source on the matter do you want?

Another example...

https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1170245602900361217

"Craig Wright - The 2013 Court Australia Fraud

Now that court Florida has determined a 50/50 partnership between Craig and Dave, let's see how much of that "partnership" is truthful.

It seems that this partnership is (partly) based on another fraud. And Ira/court knows it."

There are 'indication'

And

Evidence


Nothing here comes down to evidence and deductive proving.


Trolls as u believe what ur stake tells u should.
Thats all transparent seen all over ur postings here.

Happy honest days.
2040  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig S. Wright ALIAS Faketoshi News: 'The Tulip Trust' is proven to be fake on: September 07, 2019, 09:00:52 AM
Some additional info:

https://twitter.com/kyletorpey/status/968187874268114944
Wright used a font called Otto to forge Dave Kleiman's signature

http://archive.is/wiNYc
Dr. Wright and the altered PDF



We could agree on: Some used to do the forgery. No evidence for who actually was it.

In a mass documents producing process for court all the shit might happen as well.

So you think CSW has been bamboozled and he is probably the victim here?

If he really is Satoshi the thing he was doxxed and hacked, it would make sense. He was stating such quite frequently and also when 'he came out" with all of that.
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