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2081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Brazil Fan Token Down 60% After Losing to Croatia on: December 19, 2022, 09:51:14 AM
Brazil Fan Token launched by the Brazilian government and the Brazilian football federation
BTF Token cryptocurrency is a national fan of Brazilian football. It dropped 50% in a few hours and about 60% in 24 hours after losing against Croatia at the FIFA World Cup in penalty shootout.

The Brazilian government and football federation launched the Brazil Fan Token on August 25, 2021. The token offers an exclusive experience for investors and sports fans around the world.
When this token is backed a government and its sports authority, I guess there will be no need to panic on seeing a 60% downfall rather you should focus on accumulating more to maximize your chances for grabbing more profits while it will be bouncing back. I never followed this token but if it is not reaching its 80% downfall from the peak price then keep averaging while accumulating will help.

At the same time, we need to bother about what are the chances from government side to keep backing up this token. I mean some times government may change their policy without any proper reason or explanation and in such case they will abandon it immediately; so government's token alone cannot be a good reason to keep investing in one token; always diversify.
2082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 18, 2022, 09:45:46 PM
I still can't believe that he is not moving to Al-Nassr, those guys offered him 500 million euro for 2.5 years, that is 200 million a year, how could anyone reject that? I get that he likes his freedom and being in Al-Nassr would mean that he would have to follow their culture or it would be a big trouble for him, all of which means even his family would be pressured into living the way they live unless they want risk, so that type of thing is a scary thing or could be at least and I understand that.

However, we are talking about FIVE HUNDRED MILLION EUROS! that is good enough to literally do whatever you are told to do, just way too much money to reject.
2083  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: December 18, 2022, 09:06:40 PM
Ronaldo might not be fortunate enough to find a club in England that will sign him especially after having a fight with Manchester United recently.Newcastle have the money to sign and keep him at the club,but I don't think they will like to sign him,but if they are able to,he will definitely be a major addition to the squad.
Newcastle are actually in a very good form at the moment,and I hope they will still add more players to the squad they have currently if they want to retain the position they are on the league table.They are currently sitting third on the table,and will be hoping to be in the top four spot to qualify for champions league next season.
Honestly it would be quite weird if he went from United to a better team. Newcastle looks like a team with a great future, and they have the richest owner of any club in the world, estimated at 300+ billion dollars, we know how rich the corporations are, people like Elon and jeff and bill gates etc etc, these are kings of whole nations so it's really a different situation for them, they have their own army, that is how rich they are.

So, Ronaldo being there would definitely be amazing for them, both for Ronaldo, and for Newcastle to get a lot more media attention as well. Imagine a world where Ronaldo scores at least 10 goals in 20 matches, Newcastle would be talked everywhere.
2084  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 18, 2022, 07:45:51 PM
Mbappé have success with national team from Euro until World Cup tittle success get it during still 23 years old, Lionel Messi can't get tittle with his national team in young age but need waiting until achievement on 30 years old for Copa America tittle. I don't think for Lionel Messi and Mbappé have drastically level difference with Champion League trophy only missing.

Why many bad viewed with Mbappé about his attitude, during World Cup with France national team he most friendly and never made any mistake yet with their team and matches played, I sure Mbappé will reach the same level with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo later after joining potential team with Champion League opportunity tittle like Real Madrid.
This is a very very shallow approach to football. It is played with 11 people, if you calculate how strong France is without Mbappe and how strong Argentina would be without Messi you would have your answer. Lets assume that we take out Messi and Mbappe from this finals, they won't play, who do you think would win? I can easily tell you that the result would be like 5-0 France win, easily.

The only reason Argentina even came to finals twice now is the fact that Messi scored 5 goals and assisted plenty as well because dude knows how to control the game. When he has the ball on his foot, it's also a way other team can't score, he dictates the pace and the style of the game all by himself.
2085  Economy / Economics / Re: Have Satoshi dream failed? on: December 17, 2022, 09:16:03 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin as the perfect P2P digital money but today people are forced to pay tax on their holdings. Haven't this make the whole anonymous and freedom dream of Nakamoto failed?
In the path of achieving compete decentralization, I guess we cannot avoid availing services from centralized exchange kind of services which might lead to be taxed as per your country law. But, the ultimate goal of bitcoin must be not depending and not trusting a centralized services for value transferring hence I believe it would be too early to call that Satoshi's dream got failed.

When we have more infrastructure for transacting within ourselves then I guess people will prefer p2p things and then government laws may not enforce you but still if you buy anything for bitcoin or avail any services for bitcoin then you may still need to pay tax which got nothing to do with decentralization.
2086  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|🎁Welcome Pack on BetFury| 💸300 Free Spins + 150% Deposit Bonus on: December 17, 2022, 08:58:03 PM
As you have an answer for all questions cause you all know your subject, could you explain why the BFG reachs such price? It's the lower price or so since the launch of BFG. So who are the sellers at this level? It's the Dev team who got free BFG who can afford to sell at the shitty price?

The listing price was at 0.07$. During the last 6 months BFG price change between 0.025 and 0.015. So who sell at 0.012? The price was never been so low and strangely people sell. 2 options : They sell in red or they sell in green cause they got millions of free BFG.
We can track (some) orders on Vulkania. I guess there aren't all there cause I saw a lot of buying orders for several millions of BFG and despite that the price goes down.
Bitcoin reached under 17k for the first time since 2020, and there were still some people who sold, why did those people sell? BNB reached as low as 230, and people still sold, who were those people who sold?

These are the same questions and whatever the answer was for those questions, this is the same answer. Some people sell their coins when they see it going down, they sell even more when they see it going down and hold it when they see it going up. I personally believe that people should be buying instead of selling during these periods of course but as you might know some people have weaker hands and they just sell as soon as they see it lower than before.
2087  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 17, 2022, 08:36:22 PM
Goncalo Ramos is a young player who has great potential. It seems that he is putting on a decent performance at the moment.
The problem with him is that despite his talent, I doubt he will be able to match that performance with Manchester United since he will be facing much bigger and better opponents.
It doesn't seem like there is any reality where he will be able to successfully replace Cristiano Ronaldo.

And, there is no indication that Manchester United are that concerned about bringing him in. In my opinion, he is not capable of filling the void left by Cristiano Ronaldo. Manchester United will have to bring in a better player who will be a reliable goal-scorer. As a first step, Manchester United will need to solve the problems between the authorities and the players in order to move forward.
I feel like buying a player just after a world cup because of a few good games is not a good idea. Look at James Rodriguez, dude got to Real Madrid with just one superb world cup tournament but we have not seen him do well at all after that.

It could be said that Goncalo played a great world cup as well but we have seen him play in 5 games, and that is not enough to just buy a player. United needs someone who has been consistently great, plus if they are going to pay that much money then it would be smarter to get someone who has proven themselves in premier league before. I think it would be smart to look for someone who is 28 or older and just get a free agent instead.
2088  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first attempt to play gambling on: December 17, 2022, 06:41:52 PM
How was your first start? Did you play blindly or spent some time to learn.?
As for poker, before I started playing with money, in micro limits, I practiced with play money and a console poker game, in addition to looking at some theory and some open raise tables.

The first few times I played with money, I had the open raise tables printed out and I bet according to them. Little by little I memorized them and I didn't need them anymore, just as I was modifying them as I went along, just like the postflop game.
I had to do the same thing for poker as well, and I did something similar for blackjack too where I had a pdf open that explains what I should do in most odds, like do I hit with 15-16 or do I stay etc etc. Same with poker too, didn't know what beat what, and had to check it, didn't print it out tbf, I had it open on my pc, but I used pokerstars with like 1-2 cents as my preference, and I had like 2-3 dollars in there.

The aim wasn't to win money but to learn the game. But the first ever betting I did was on horse racing, it was a thrill to watch those horses race, the more I grew up, the more I realized it's actually something that hurts the horses and a shame, now I never bet on it.
2089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are you doing with your alt bags on: December 17, 2022, 09:06:46 AM
Just like @CZ_Binance said on his interview back then after FTX collapse, he said, 1 by 1 and many other company will stop and bankrupt as well as they have put huge money on FTX.

If you are thinking to buy those coins which got dumped by DCG, better wait it, as the dump can be more deeper than now. $FIL, which got biggest dump, even still has $1billion marketcap, it's still huge IMO
I read somewhere that total altcoin market may get dumped up to $300-$350 Billion levels (then it was around $440 billions) which means around $300 billions reversal may happen; that would be the right time to start accumulating more altcoins with mid to long term plans.

Personally I am holding few exchange coins like BNB. So, I guess I may buy more gradually on dips to maximize the potential profits. This may applicable only for reputed coins and not for all the coins including shit-ones.
2090  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Just how bad is the bear market right now? on: December 16, 2022, 07:29:49 PM
Just how bad is the bear market right now?
Historically low prices have endured for a longer period of time in the present bear market cycle than in any other.
If we look at the history of the crypto market, especially bitcoins price, the result is quite amazing because of its past history of recovery no matter how down the price was. It never sinks to the bottom after any tragedy it has been through that it never recovered from it. Today, you just need to grab the opportunity if you have some extra money to spend on investment because this kind of chance is rare at the same time, you also need the requirement to know the right coins to invest as well but if you are not really sure which one, then stick to bitcoins.
That is exactly how it will be this time around as well. I know not many people believe that but I am 100% certain that we are going to end up with a recovery yet again. This means that if we work towards just buying a bit each week if we can, and hold it as long as we possibly could, that will result with a big profit. I am not saying that it's going to be that easy, it will of course but a bit hard but the hardest part is the holding part.

If you can just ignore the current price, and focus on what it could be, then we are going to end up with a good profit without a doubt. I just hope that people do not forget that they need to make sure that it's going to be a bit of a trouble if they sell too early.
2091  Economy / Economics / Re: Tesla’s stock prices dropping fast on: December 16, 2022, 06:24:00 PM
So isn't it related to the fact that he sold part of the shares?? It seems to me that the purchase of the Twitter platform has a mediocre character here. His company has proven itself well, and it seems to me that shares will be bought up even at such prices.
I think there is a bit of it, but more like a snowball effect. Think of it this way, he sold, and dropped it just a bit but people saw the dropped and they sold some too and there were some stop loss and some hedge funds and suddenly you are looking at a bigger fall.

Twitter probably has nothing to do with it, only possible relation is that he seems to be caring about Twitter more than he cares about Tesla nowadays and that's an issue for Tesla of course, but that wouldn't be something to care about suddenly right now. As long as Tesla keeps building cars and selling them with ease, not having any problems with unsold cars like some other companies have, then they will keep growing.
2092  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Discussion Thread on: December 16, 2022, 05:59:10 PM
Messi as a leader in the Argentina team now, probably want to show to the squad if he is still Messi were same as a player who has fast dribble and movement. but, the age factor is a problem, he will tire quickly if forced to do all jobs for every line then he must divide it because France has a young player who has a fast move and passing, if Messi do itself probably the world cup champion would not come to him anymore.
Surprising. So far I haven't noticed Messi getting tired in any of the matches. He has two decades of experience behind him, and even in matches that went for penalty shootout he looked quite fired up. At least for him, age is just a number. Anyway, Argentina just have one more obstacle to cross before they can kiss on the world cup trophy. They are trying really hard ever since 1986, without much luck. And this time their long wait may come to an end. And credit should be given to the younger players as well. They have provided adequate support to Messi.
Messi is in great shape, of course, but Mbappe also feels great, besides he is much younger, so if France manages to impose their game, they can become world champions for the third time in their history.
They are not playing against each other, Mbappe will be fighting Argentina defence, and Messi will fight against French defence. Which means that they could both have great games and doesn't make one or the other worse. I feel like Messi will play better than Mbappe, because Mbappe got too used to playing at striker position in PSG whereas he is left wing at France so there is a difference he goes back to adjust, he is used to that too but not entirely.

However, France attacking players will play better than Argentina ones, and that will result with a goal from Messi, but probably more goals from France. I hope Messi ends up with a cup, that would be very sweet retirement, France could always win later next time around with this team.
2093  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Discussion Thread on: December 15, 2022, 09:20:21 PM
I really think Argentina is going to win this World Cup..... Messi already said it is his last World Cup, so he wants to be known as the GOAT .... and this is his final hoooorah to do it.

I would have wanted to see him against Ronaldo in the final, but that cannot happen anymore..... so I will settle for a Messi vs Mbappe   Grin
I see the odds favor France to win on most sites, but I feel we will see a draw after 90 minutes.  Tongue
This will be a crowning achievement for Messi if Argentina wins, demonstrating his status as the GOAT.

This battle presents numerous obstacles to overcome. The competition between the top four scorers. Who will have the most goals in this World Cup, will it be Messi, Mbappe, Alvarez or Giroud? Messi has the advantage in a tie because he can score goals and assist. Mbappe, on the other hand, has two assists, so Messi is only ahead by one point. Because the French also have Dembele and Griezmann, i'm going with Messi.

The betting market is fairly even, but most had France a slight edge.
I said this as well and there are some people who doubts him even if he manages to win. Unfortunately hooligan mindset in football prevents some people to enjoy everyone.

I personally LOVE watching both Messi and Ronaldo, I grew up watching them, their career started all the way back when I was freshmen in high school, so my first year in high school I watched these players, and now I am middle age, balding, and father old dude and I am still watching them and that's the greatness about them both. Just because someone says if Messi gets the world cup then I consider him the best, doesn't mean they have to think Ronaldo sucks and a terrible player at all.
2094  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 15, 2022, 08:04:33 PM
It's the time for bayern to think about a new goal keeper to replace neuer. Neuer itself is a very good goal keeper even if he was not young again but his response is still very good to block any ball that came to the his goal.
The goal keeper from croatia may become a good replacement for neuer. That's why bayern has been trying to get a new keeper for the club caused by two keepers that owned by bayern already old enough to compete in the bundesliga and champion league.
I feel like watching world cup to get a new goalkeeper is not a good idea, that is the best goalkeeper of a nation and for Bayern level of team that could be a good idea but usually goalkeepers are not the best in their nation at the age of 23 or something, they are there at 27-28 or afterwards.

This is why it is a lot better if they could end up with someone younger, so watching the bench is a lot more important. I would suggest them to get someone who is 23 years old or so, both proven something until that age already, so not too young like 17, but also not too old that he would not be good enough for too long, so 23-24 is a good range for them to look at.
2095  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: December 14, 2022, 09:29:53 PM
Maybe yes, maybe no. We all know that Binotto was instrumental in making Ferrari one of the best constructors. He has dedicated 28 years at Ferrari as a principal and is very good at it. But that doesn't mean F1 will suffer a setback with his departure - he's not perfect, he has a lot of flaws - it could be a turning point for Ferrari to become a top constructor again.

What's more, Vasseur has been named the newest team principal for Ferrari and he is not someone to be underestimated, with 25 years of experience, he can combine this experience with what Binotto has built. This will probably make F1's performance even better in the coming season.
Yes 25 years of experience and he never brought us a winning car so most probably I agree that Binotto should have stayed as his expertise is invaluable but also Ferrari needs to win something and since Binotto failed so many years since 2007 to be precise and I also agree with this move and maybe Vasseur just needs a much higher budget which Ferrari have to bring us the winning car again.

However Ferrari it is still in the dark in the sense that they sure expect more from the new team principal but it is another question if he will deliver for real a winning car or he will just continue the legacy of not winning any Champions again.
Like someone always mentioned, he should have been in charge of just the car, like Newey who has built 13 championship cars so far, and Binotto could be in that role as car designer and that's it. I am not really sure that anything would change and that should have been good for Ferrari.

Anything else about the in race stuff, should be changed and a new one would be better however that doesn't change the fact that we are talking about something that would be working better in the long run because a good car and a good team leader would cause a great amount of help for them. Binotto was horrible at race day stuff, he was never good about it at all.
2096  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 14, 2022, 03:41:09 PM
Everyone thought last night's game would be tough, but it was a very easy game for Argentina.
I never thought that the game would end with this score.

There is MOROCCO - FRANCE game tonight. France will win 99%.
I hope France wins the cup.
Last night I watched in disbelief that Croatia would lose easily against Argentina, an absolute victory for Argentina since the first round match and it was very difficult to pursue because the ball possession was completely controlled by the Argentinian players. Argentina against France is everyone's dream final, while Argentina against Morocco is a new final for everyone. Apart from all that, I hope Argentina can win the world cup this time and of course as a good career ending for Lionel Messi.
Honestly it wasn't really a shock to me, it was always known that Argentina was a better team, and if you look at odds before the world cup started, Croatia didn't had a high hope for it, they got to semi-finals which is further then anyone expected of them to do, which is the key to Argentina winning because they played a team that was easier to beat.

To be fair Netherlands gave them a harder time compared to Croatia if you look how the games ended. This was expected for me, I didn't expected them to lose at all, maybe not as easy as 3-0 but that is still realistic score, if you asked me before the game I would have said that's possible too.
2097  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 13, 2022, 07:48:50 PM
There are even more in the family. Hakan is the cousin from Kerim and he is playing in Inter Milan, as you said. Then there is another cousin Muhammed but he is not with any club. But Kerim indeed has a brother: Turan. He plays in the fourth league.
Both brothers have been coaching in the youth teams at Hoffenheim since 2017. But neither has made the breakthrough yet.
It is common for people who are good at football to have some family that wants to try out as well and get a better chance to be scouted, doesn't mean they will go further though. It just means that you ask people to look at your brother or your cousin and because you are Hakan Calhanoglu that means people will listen to you, if I told people to look at them nobody would have cared.

There are plenty of people like that in our nation as well, father/son, or brothers, if one of them gets any attention and becomes big, then they try their best to get the others. Hell look at NBA and Giannis, dude managed to bring his brothers to the league as well.
2098  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: December 13, 2022, 05:30:20 PM
He was a player who have most followers and fans compared with another great player like messi or etc. that's why any news or rumour about him will be paying so many attention from his fans. Ronaldo has the biggest fan base in the world. Any rumour will attract traffic that will be coming from his fans.
I would not be surprised if ronaldo is always to be linked with some teams that played in the champion league caused by ronaldo wants to play in the champion league team. I doubt that if any clubs that currently participated in the champion league wanna try to let him join.
It seems like all of teams now abandoned him, he has no choice other than try to be paticen and realize his situation.
I do agree that he is one of the greatest players of all time. I am not saying he is THE greatest, but one of the greatest, because I do agree that there are few others. But, looking at his awards and statistics, I could easily say that he is one of the best without a doubt. This dude has played for so long and now he is aging and currently may not be the greatest ever but we should realize that his entire career looks like he is one of the best.

Scoring more goals than anyone else is a big deal just by himself, and that should tell you how good but also how consistent he is as well. That is why I believe that we shouldn't be shocked with everything.
2099  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: December 12, 2022, 09:35:31 PM
I think there is an incredible difference compared to last year. Barcelona has a team that has played much more successful matches than last year. This year they are at the top of La Liga for now, but Real Madrid is following them like a shadow. They seem like they will take the lead from them at the slightest snag. In the European league, their rivals are the toughest team. They drew the hardest draw and were unlucky in that regard. If they overcome the Manchester United obstacle, they can easily go to the final.
Last year they were pretty good as well, beat Real Madrid 4-0 when they faced after Xavi took over, and just a bit later lost to Frankfurt, that should be good enough reason to think that just because you are doing good in the league, doesn't mean that you will do great in europa or UCL, look at City and PSG, they dominated the league and then lost, look at Bayern and how they lost last year, all in all just because you are doing great in the league doesn't mean other competitions would be great.

All in all I am expecting them to be doing fine, but not going to guarantee anything for them neither, it is going to be easy enough to tell if they will be good or not.
2100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 12, 2022, 06:00:56 PM
After performing well with Napoli and South Korea national team rumours is their defender player Kim Min jae has into Manchester United and Tottenham watchlist and apparently besides Osimhen who targetted by big clubs Napoli also should be hold this player because during this season he is one of Napoli key player and always be playing regular on Serie A or champion league so losing him will have bad impact for Napoli defense because so far his combination with Amir Rrahmani or Juan Jesus was very solid at Napoli defense however besides that yesterday Napoli has won 3-1 from Crystal Palace for friendly matches and this weekend Napoli will played one more match against Villarreal
He was already a great defender and it was always known that he would eventually leave. Last year he was in Fenerbahce and played wonderful, that's now he got into Napoli and this year he is the best defender on the team that is fighting for the title in Serie A with absolutely no loss at all so far, isn't it normal for him to be wanted as well?

Of course he would be leaving with Osimhen, and to be fair that's not bad because if they can get as high as 100-110 million from both (or anything more) that means we are going to end up with something much greater and that's a good thing for sure. I am not saying that we will see Napoli keep winning next year, but that financial gain is insane, no other team would have it in Serie A.
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