Craig's neck turns red when he is lying. I knew, u are a real high quality judge  |
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Clean original BitCoin not affected ... |
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Difference is obvious for anyone who can see  Where it is not really clear, why LN d be needed at all (except for money laundery and criminal use per se) but BTC and many other Projects sadly want to go the dark anno way - so good luck for 'global' adoption with it - I dont get that. Rather: If u do not like ur gov, so pls try to force it to use the most transparent coin, for sake of tracing their Money! |
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If it wouldn t be Sustainable it wouldn t attract all the Risk sensitive businesses and it could be attacked already all the Time.
Instead this and other Forums and News sites are full of fear and fud Posts...
Funny.
Why attack something while they're doing a perfect job destroying themselves? This. In a deposition, the creator of Bitmessage has confirmed that the supposed chat messages between Dave Kleiman and Craig Wright are forgeries."
Is there anything he has not lied about? It's quite astounding. I presume the people around him would pass out in surprise if a single element of any of his claimed history turned out to be true. 'Craig, are you feeling alright? Shall we call someone?' It's pretty bad when even your mother calls you a liar.  https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6lnzs0/and_all_of_a_sudden_csws_mom_is_the_real_hero_of/Thank God, we have such an Internet, where u can do and beleive all what u want. Real world and courts are different ... wait! Why the hack this new immutable ledger exists ? For SegShit & LN ? |
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Hobby prove done by some raspi judges? Lol |
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Silly argument, most money even in fiat is not physical and there can be dirty money that has never left anything but a representation in accounts, this is not something new to the crypto world and not something we should think will require its own unique answer, this has already happened.
My point is still valid. It is simply not possible to distinguish between clean and dirty 'coins' (coins do not exist in BTC) after mixing. Instead of simply stating 'silly argument', what about explaining how you would distinguish between them in the example i gave earlier ? what I am saying is that this isn't a uniquely crypto thing, fiat has plenty of transactions that are all digital and try to have laundering. Dirty fiat dollars that aren't physical have been mixed with non physical clean fiat dollars as well. What I am saying is there is no reason to argue about this and we should just look at what is implemented currently by the financial sector as it's already been discussed and decided on by them at length. Yes - and again: the burden to prove clean history is just there, because it is doable with not MUCH effort and also because tooo many dumb shit already happened within CRYPTO per se - that's the Price now all have to pay |
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Is Ethereum proven to be a scam up to now? From this thread made 2 years ago, and I see that ethereum has continued to triumph and become one of the best altcoins. And many people like to invest here. Is this accusation proven?
Many projects and various businesses have been successfully created on the Ethereum platform. For these 2 years, Ethereum really showed the effectiveness of development for the entire cryptocurrency community. I think that the price of 250 dollars is a low price for Ethereum and this year this coin will cost more than 400 dollars. I also believe that Ethereum will continue its expansion into all world markets. Soon, the business sector will use the Ethereum platform. Lol... and wait for vitaLeak to do a funny code inject or rollback of his db? |
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Good - I wish u good luck.
Original BitCoin was designed to work with ANY counterparty - and sorry - does include banks
It is called Bitcoin, not Bit Coin. And it works with any counterparty. Feel free to let a 3rd party control your coins - and therefore your money. But this definitely won't be the future for the majority, and there is zero sense in that. Counterparty - by the way - implies that you can transact with anyone, which is always the case. Even without giving full control away. Letting someone else manage your funds, does not fall under 'work with any counterparty'. Why would i need luck ? I am using BTC as it is supposed to be. You'd be the one who needs luck if you are going to let a 3rd party control your funds. You are giving away all the benefits bitcoin offers. If this laundering of money is proved, then like bestmixer now chipmixer will be seized to shut down.
I heavily doubt that. The operator behind Bestmixer obviously didn't know how to run such a business. The people behind ChipMixer are way more competent than those of any other mixer around (past and present). It was this year when I learnt about mixers and felt they operate with a license but the main purpose of using these mixers i just to launder money else why would anyone use them and how can they be called legal?
Maybe because there are people around who care about their privacy ? I mean.. sure.. there a lot of people like you who give their whole privacy away just for a few bucks (e.g. KYC for shitty tokens worth nothing). Or by browsing with tracking cookies, or by installing the amazon browser plugin basically giving away your privacy for 10$. Not everyone is like that. Those who are overly cautious need to have the crypto they spend for goods and services in a coin like monero then and just keep their investments in Bitcoin. Bitcoin is not a privacy based coin and trying to force it relies upon a lot of trust which goes against the system. (Trusting a mixer won't just steal your coins, trusting they aren't keeping logs, trusting they have a good mixing algorithm) Bitcoin is a very good enough privacy system, esp at high txs throughput and proper only - fresh public address handling - but it will and never should be an ANONYMITY system, cause such attracts only criminals. |
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Sorry - talk with ur (potential) bank or finance Institute that should hanlde ur coins in any future
 I won't let anyone handle / control my coins. Ever. If you believe that banks are going to control and manage your BTC in the future, you didn't understand the philosophy of bitcoin yet. Be your own bank implies to not let a bank manage your coins. Bitcoin is a mean of payment, and not a speculative object. While quite a lot people see it as such, the utility behind it is what will change the world we live in. Decoupling from banks does not work if you let them manage your coins. Physical cash is different.
I think there are quite some things regarding the technical aspects of bitcoin you don't understand. My argument is valid. Good - I wish u good luck. Original BitCoin was designed to work with ANY counterparty - and sorry - does include banks |
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Give me some realistic calc for how much % u ll end up holding tainted coins after the mix pls - I'd never ever put clean coins to risk !
That's not how bitcoin works. There are no 'clean' and 'dirty' coins. There can be UTXO with an illegal source, but after the next transaction they are not traceable anymore. Image, you have 1 'dirty' bitcoin (input A) and 1 'clean' bitcoin (input B). Now you create a transaction consuming both inputs and creating 4 outputs (0.5 BTC each; output W, X, Y, Z). Which 2 outputs are 'clean' and which are 'dirty' ? That question can not be answered. Same applies to cash: 1 'dirty' 10$ bill and 1 'clean' 10$ bill. Now you exchange them to 4 5$ bills. You can't say which of them are 'clean' and which are 'dirty'. Sorry - talk with ur (potential) bank or finance Institute that should hanlde ur coins in any future, where Adoption must go - or ur coin will join the Liberty Reserve history and Exit the gene pool Learn: Due dilligence is what u CAN do with minimal effort. Physical cash is different. |
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My answer is Yes. Since Bitcoin became the first truly popular cryptocurrency, it allowed it to acquire a huge community, which made Bitcoin significant in the eyes of the public.
It isn't about populairty or first cryptocurrency ever have. it's about new technology about payment, when people have problem about centralization, Bitcoin came to repair using new methode. Except that btc and having signature lost by risk + high fees in the sum is no good payment any more... |
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Muh, mixers are just stupid. Its only good for criminal use. No decent user needs that at all. U might need to trace back all ur coin txs in case...
I'm not a criminal. I for example use a mixer when I need to make a purchase in Bitcoin and buy these coins through my local exchange. It gives me a peace of mind knowing that it provides me a layer of privacy I didn't have before. Exchanges increasingly start to look at what you do with your coins after withdrawing them-- their banking partners can demand them to boot you off their platform, and they will definitely not go against that. An example is Coinbase that has booted hundreds or maybe even thousands of users, all because they withdrew coins to a service their banking partners don't agree with. Mixers come in very handy here. Give me some realistic calc for how much % u ll end up holding tainted coins after the mix pls - I'd never ever put clean coins to risk ! |
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