Mike Coin send me a request in Skype for helping him to setup some API related things in his faucet script. He hasn't come online for sometime now and removed his profile pic most probably trying to wipe everything. Didn't think he was a scammer. ROFL I love his line "But anyone would have done the same for that much" about scamming 20 BTC. No, Mike. Not everybody would do the same. Not everybody is a sleazebag low-life, such as yourself.
![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Was hoping it's not scam, but: - No payout on sunday 19.07.2015 - No response on emails - Again no payout on sunday 26.07.2015 (two weeks are missing) - No response on emails - Took a look at the web GUI, the turned on automatic reinvest, so instead of payout the bought me more GH (without asking!!!) - result: SCAM at this point
Bolded part answers why you didn't receive Bitcoins. They said earlier that auto-reinvest enables automatically if you don't login for a period of time. I don't know any details about the period. Turn off auto-reinvest if you want to receive payment in future and login once every 2-4 weeks to prevent auto-enable of auto-reinvest.
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Please answer.
1) Which update file did you use to root? 2) Which update file did you use to unroot? 3) Are both of same type?
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Date 27/APR/15 Loan request: 0.03 BTC Collateral: A member account Reason: Private Loan Payment Date: In 10 Days Address: 1HkBWTTv4Ms8SFzY57dRFkiXeANx8Xz2PX Sign Message Permalink!PM me password. Loan Amount : 3 bits Reason : start up money "pm for more info" BTC Address : 19kxYoqfYmQWmpnm79BxEfmcxBAtkdDehP Term Length : 6-7 days
Denied.
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First, pay 0.003BTC loan. It is so small comparing to what you giveaway to people.
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.... Interest is a part of development? ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Just checkout through people's lives. Interest have been a big threat to lives of many people. Interest isn't mandatory for development. For bank, it is a business and they do their maximum to squeeze people with higher interest which in fact, takes their lives. ... Certainly availability of interest is a part of commercial development, and is an important part of average people's lives, enabling them to buy cars and houses and then pay them off while they use them. Same thing with credit cards. The fact that debt can be abused is no different than the fact that alcohol can be abused. Both have good and bad aspects in today's society. Just check through peoples' lives. Don't lecture people about economics that you know nothing about except voodoo economics from some old book. Interest is just a way for lenders to earn more. Borrowers need to spend more money on repayment. Well, people from low level middle class can hardly repay them, but they do with very strugglings. Poor people always end up badly and most of them suicide. Increasing wealth of a few persons and putting large number of people into danger is certainly not an economic development. You are only taking case of high level middle class people. That's what I said. Check through people's lives. Yeah, sorry! I forgot Muslims don't know how to read and study. Also didn't know we only knew voodoo economics, in fact, we don't know voodoo. Don't even talk about things you don't know, else, you will spread stupidity just like you do now. No offense. Just as Christians can study biology and evolution, Muslims can certainly study economics. Certainly the concepts of "no interest" in the Koran represent voodoo economics. Interest serves many purposes in today's world. As previously mentioned, when a nation's currency is depreciating, interest is about the only thing that will give people incentive to keep their money in investments and banks. No one would have "retirement savings accounts" if they did not earn interest. A true rate of interest would be the interest paid less the amount of loss of value of a currency. Cutting interest out of a nation's economy does nothing except vastly increase the power of the state, which can print money when more is required for projects. Likely this is one reason largely Muslim nations are so backwards. People put their money in Banks for security and easy-access/spending. Certainly, interest influence their choice of bank. More interest a bank pays, the more investors they get. It isn't, like I said, part of economic development. From your post, I understood you are only considering one side.
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it should work for altcoin too, at least sha256, seeing how they are a mere clone of bitcoin, but i still think that the algo does not matter here
but anyway it's just a matter of few second to try it
It won't work all time. The way Linux handles is (slightly) different from the way Windows handles.
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I highly recommed you to create one thread and put all links there. Thank you!
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"Yeah, but what do these mean if I want to buy them," I hear you ask. "Don't make me read all this malarkey, I'm here to make money, not read." Well then, budding bitcoin entrepreneur, I'll cut to the chase: RanksRank | Description | Tag | Brand New: | 0 posts, gets 1 gold coin under his name. | - FREE | Newbie: | (none), gets 1 gold coin under his name. | - WORTHLESS | Jr. Member: | Activity: 30, gets 1 gold coin under his name. | - SOME TRY TO SELL THESE, BUT BASICALLY WORTHLESS | Member: | Activity: 60, gets 2 gold coins under his name. | ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2FThemes%2Fcustom1%2Fimages%2Fstar.gif&t=663&c=ZVP07T5lxV20Gg) - MEH, GETTING THERE. POST MORE SPAM. | Full Member: | Activity: 120, gets 3 gold coins under his name. | ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2FThemes%2Fcustom1%2Fimages%2Fstar.gif&t=663&c=ZVP07T5lxV20Gg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2FThemes%2Fcustom1%2Fimages%2Fstar.gif&t=663&c=ZVP07T5lxV20Gg) - NOW WE'RE TALKING! 0.01BTC | Sr. Member: | Activity: 240, gets 4 gold coins under his name. | ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2FThemes%2Fcustom1%2Fimages%2Fstar.gif&t=663&c=ZVP07T5lxV20Gg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2FThemes%2Fcustom1%2Fimages%2Fstar.gif&t=663&c=ZVP07T5lxV20Gg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2FThemes%2Fcustom1%2Fimages%2Fstar.gif&t=663&c=ZVP07T5lxV20Gg) - ANY GREEN TRUST? BECAUSE I WANT TO BE TRUSTED ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) | Hero Member: | Activity: 480, gets 5 gold coins under his name.
| ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2FThemes%2Fcustom1%2Fimages%2Fstar.gif&t=663&c=ZVP07T5lxV20Gg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2FThemes%2Fcustom1%2Fimages%2Fstar.gif&t=663&c=ZVP07T5lxV20Gg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2FThemes%2Fcustom1%2Fimages%2Fstar.gif&t=663&c=ZVP07T5lxV20Gg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2FThemes%2Fcustom1%2Fimages%2Fstar.gif&t=663&c=ZVP07T5lxV20Gg) - WHY YOU SELL THIS? YOU SCAMMING? SIGN MESSAGE? IF CAN SIGN, I GIVE 0.75BTC | Legendary: | Activity: the Legendary membergroup has no universal activity requirement. You are guaranteed to become Legendary somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity, but the exact point in this range at which you become Legendary is random per user. Gets 5 gold coins under his name of which the last is half dark blue.
| - TRADE YOU TWO SENIORS WITH NO TRUST AND WILL LEAVE YOU GREEN TRUST | |
This is a work in progress, will update with more accurate market data. Feel free to contribute & call out mistakes, will correct. Don't troll/spam in every thread. Meta is not a play spamground. You will be banned soon if you continue trolling.
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I know the user from another forum and I spoke to him a week after posting on that thread. He then told me he sold the account and told me about his new account as well and on checking his new account, he had an account sales account.
That user is quite reputed and hence I know that the account who bought his account was a scammer. He does not care about the reputation of the sold account as he already sold it.
If account sales is banned, it shouldn't affect those accounts which are already sold/bought but only the future sales would stop. Account prices wouldn't matter.
Honestly, a trustworthy member won't sell the account he make. I don't think he is trustworthy. _______________________________________________________________________________ @OP: This isn't about trust and it's about account sales. I thought that this thread is about account sales ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) He derails thread and tell others did it. _______________________________________________________________________________ _ I am listing my points which can be the negatives of selling/buying accounts: 1. The original owner has been spamming earlier to increase his activity and has not been a part of the signature campaign. The account is sold and now the account (most probably) gets banned as the new owner made few short posts (not really insubstantial) but his post history is full of spam. Account is useless now. 2. The account was banned earlier (once or twice) and the original owner doesn't mention the same. Then the account probably gets banned again. EG: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=994097.0;topicseen3. The account was earlier loan defaulted and used as a collateral. High chances of it getting a negative trust and hence it cannot be used for earning via a signature campaign. 4. Accounts get hacked and sold and signed messages aren't provided. 5. Accounts with green trust are sold and they can be easily used for scamming newbies. 6. Account sold and the original owner provides fake evidence of his sold account to be charged for scamming and hence makes it get negative trust. There can be many possibilities and negatives associated with buying and selling accounts and the above cases have been proved true as well. Sixth one may sound illogical but it's definitely a possibility. 1 & 2: Buyer should take care of this. It is known fact. This the risk buyer should be willing to take. 3: If the account is used as collateral and if the lender is going to sell it, negative trust feedback will be removed if there is enough proof. 4: Careless mistake of buyer. 5: Can be. 6: Can be resolved if buyer asks signed message. These are the risks buyer take except 5. Sorry but only 5 can be taken as negative.
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It is good idea but isn't it better to encrypt locally?
Does it make a difference? Its much easier if the forum software did it automatically. I think encrypting locally is better than encrypting messages server-side. I can't see the point sending messages to server to encrypt. My taste maybe different from yours. Well, it can also be javascript based, so its encrypted through the browser before being sent. My point is that it doesnt matter as long as its encrypted before being stored in the database. That is good. Encrypting message in browser before sending is good. We can probably have a field for adding a link to PGP public key and when a person message us, the PGP pub key in our profile is used to encrypt. A custom option to copy-paste PGP public key before sending will also be helpful.
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+1. I like to see this. I would like to see a way to exclude specific trust feedback but it probably is overkil, I guess. For example, if Bob is in Alice's trust list and Bob leaves a feedback which doesn't seem right to Alice but all other feedback is relevant/appropriate. So excluding that trust feedback so the trust rating of the account won't be effected. -snip- also it's hard to know if a rating was removed. -snip
How does a permalink help?
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It is good idea but isn't it better to encrypt locally?
Does it make a difference? Its much easier if the forum software did it automatically. I think encrypting locally is better than encrypting messages server-side. I can't see the point sending messages to server to encrypt. My taste maybe different from yours.
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It is good idea but isn't it better to encrypt locally?
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Good to know this is resolved. Good luck and have great day!
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Scambusting itself is becoming a form of trust farming (not just by Quickseller). Steamroll over a bunch of people, pretend you stopped a bunch of scammers, collect positive ratings, and abuse trusted position even more. This is one of the main reasons I have argued so heavily against "scambusting" in general. People who are wronged will bring it to light, we don't need internet precrime police running around everywhere interfering with what would otherwise be voluntary transactions in most cases.
So are you telling there must not be any scambusters in this forum? There would definitely be much fewer posts on meta complaining about trust abuse so of course it would be positive. The only problem is there would be so much more threads on scam accusations ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Do you really believe that a handful of virtual mallcops are going to stop the tsunami of fraud on the internet? Doubtful. People who are wronged tend to seek justice and bring offenders to light. Preventative precrime type scambusting is inefficient, it also harms reputable users because people want to play private investigator and pump up their trust ratings by harassing people and negative rate them over the flimsiest of pretenses. They get entertained, they look like they are doing something to help, they collect positive trust, then use that trust to abuse their position even more. Instead of trying to stop the ocean from flooding in why don't you teach some people how to make a boat? We should be focusing on teaching people how to protect themselves, not going on crusades looking for people to crucify to satiate the boredom of a handful of asshats at the expense of the entire community. Nope. I believe a handful of virtual persons can stop or atleast reduce tsunami of fraud in Bitcointalk. We can't stop all fraud in Internet and I don't think we need to do it just like the staff here doesn't need to moderate other forums.* We can atleast reduce the amount by doing what we can. * Exceptions apply.
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.... Interest is a part of development? ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Just checkout through people's lives. Interest have been a big threat to lives of many people. Interest isn't mandatory for development. For bank, it is a business and they do their maximum to squeeze people with higher interest which in fact, takes their lives. ... Certainly availability of interest is a part of commercial development, and is an important part of average people's lives, enabling them to buy cars and houses and then pay them off while they use them. Same thing with credit cards. The fact that debt can be abused is no different than the fact that alcohol can be abused. Both have good and bad aspects in today's society. Just check through peoples' lives. Don't lecture people about economics that you know nothing about except voodoo economics from some old book. Interest is just a way for lenders to earn more. Borrowers need to spend more money on repayment. Well, people from low level middle class can hardly repay them, but they do with very strugglings. Poor people always end up badly and most of them suicide. Increasing wealth of a few persons and putting large number of people into danger is certainly not an economic development. You are only taking case of high level middle class people. That's what I said. Check through people's lives. Yeah, sorry! I forgot Muslims don't know how to read and study. Also didn't know we only knew voodoo economics, in fact, we don't know voodoo. Don't even talk about things you don't know, else, you will spread stupidity just like you do now. No offense.
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You're seriously comparing rape/murder to selling forum accounts?
What he is trying to say is Illegal | ____|___________ | | Rape/murder Account sale
I hope you understand the structure is long. You have snipped many things to achieve your goal. I really like to say "never stop learning" but I think "think twice or thrice before you do a thing" fits better. @erikalui: Simple answer, no benefit.
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... So you mean trying to bribe him to avoid/have removed the negative feedback? Sure that would work ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) You know what would work tho? Buying a trusted account from Quickseller. Problem solved! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I doubt if even that would work. I would expect him to be the sort of person, who would keep reporting his own sold accounts so they would come back to him to buy more accounts. I don't understand the logic here. If accounts sold by a person are reported as sold frequently, why do people come to buy more accounts from same person?
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