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3101  Other / Off-topic / Re: Profit Warning!!! Mtgox have been found to be a SCAM Business (mod note: trollin on: April 07, 2013, 07:06:25 PM
And this is supposed to be the so-called president.

Roll Eyes
3102  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin soda machine no? on: April 07, 2013, 07:03:13 PM
Just curious; if a payment had just one confirmation, what are the odds that it isn't legitimate?
3103  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is there something like kickstarter, but that will reimburse contributors? on: April 07, 2013, 07:01:38 PM
I don't understand; if the project is successful, shouldn't the funds go to the project head?
3104  Other / Off-topic / Re: Look at what I saw today (18+ only) on: April 07, 2013, 07:00:49 PM
Joke's on her; she still can't pee standing up!
3105  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Political Standing (yours) on: April 07, 2013, 06:59:59 PM
Generally libertarian, although I don't agree with their entire platform. I do think we need to fund education and have somewhat of a social safety net (just take better measures to make sure it is not abused.)

I disagree.  The problem with funding education and SS is that it requires tax.  If state-offered education was voluntary, and funded voluntarily, why would we need state-education?  In this case, it would make more sense for all schools to simply be private.  On SS, same issue; it's not voluntary.  If both those things were privately run and completely up to the individual to participate in, I would be perfectly a-okay with them.
3106  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian my ass! on: April 07, 2013, 06:57:14 PM
The anarchism commonly referred to here is anarchism of government, not anarchism of economy.  AFAIK (someone point me in the right direction if I'm wrong), there are many forms of economy when paired to anarchism, but the only one which seems to work without government intervention is capitalism, 100% free market.  I know there's anarcho-communism, but I don't see how that could ever possibly work.  Communism requires a strong tie to the nation and an unnatural willingness to work for the good of all mankind, essentially, being a cog in a machine, but this seems to be the seedling which begets a large national government.  In other words, communism = sheeple, and sheeple love big government to make all decisions while they toil away.  The smallest government will always become the largest.  There's no way to store one's wealth; you could work a lot, or you could work a little, but the work you put in isn't always shown.  Plus, having to distribute your work is a pain to part with, knowing the people it will go to may or may not be working.  It works great if everyone's on board, but there's no backlash if you're not.  Capitalism, OTOH, allows you to store your work and save it for later; if you stop working, it's because you did the work required to do so.  If somebody says they don't want to chip in, they shouldn't be rewarded with socialism; instead, they'd rely on family, and it then becomes a private problem, AS IT SHOULD BE A PRIVATE PROBLEM.  Nothing against those who legitimately can't work, but the individual should not be a public matter.  Capitalism in itself has no room for socialism; the moment such a system was introduced, capitalism ceased to exist in its natural form.

However, the big but:  Neither of these systems know what to do when work becomes automated.  Curious; if corporatism wasn't a thing, and big government was gone, where does that leave machinery?  To some extent, it makes our jobs easier.  To the greatest extent, it eliminates the need for us to work.  I think of slave labor back in the 1800's; except now, the slave is hyper-efficient, runs on electricity, can't rebel, and has no emotion.
3107  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Political Standing (yours) on: April 07, 2013, 06:37:22 PM
I never really had one, until I found this site.  I believe the correct term is libertarian.  But hopefully, in the future, people won't consider a political role to have an effect on an entire populace.  Much like religion is nothing like a person's name, a political standing should be nothing like a person's gender.  They're abstractions; rules you have to play with in a statist society who values such things as division of the masses.  Maybe one day we'll all just be people; not libertarian, or American, or rich or poor, but people.
3108  Other / Archival / Re: I sold everything at $158/159 this morning on: April 07, 2013, 05:45:53 PM
I sold all my Bitcoin at $120 and set a buy order at $0.03

See you in a year, suckers Wink
3109  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin is over-ambitious on: April 07, 2013, 05:40:31 PM
So basically the concept of a centralized currency is a myth? In this case the selling point should be transparency.

i'm not sure what you're asking. 'centralised' probably isn't the right way to talk about currency in the first place. it's only people on this forum who think of the united states dollar as a 'centralised' currency. it is a currency that has a governmental issuer, subject to a particular legal process for issuance. 'centralisation' is an imprecise way to think about it. by contrast, bitcoin has an algorithmic issuer, subject to an algorithmic process for issuance; similarly, 'decentralisation' is an imprecise way to think about it. it's all 'myths' - impressionistic thinking, not rigorous thinking.

bitcoin has many selling points, but 'transparency' isn't really one either. transactions are indeed transparent, but it would be hard to argue that the bitcoin 'economy' is less oligopolistic than the traditional one or that bitcoin's value is more transparent than that of other currencies. as i have pointed out many times, people are letting mt. gox's data dictate 'value' to them even though that data could be totally fraudulent. i ultimately made half a million us dollars playing that game, but most people won't.

ignorant anger at central bankers was always a poor basis for bitcoin enthusiasm, at least in many people who have no idea what they're talking about. very few people here have any knowledge about monetary or other economic principles. what they have are strong half-baked opinions which strike most knowledgeable people as misplaced anger. why people who see themselves as self-reliant would choose to make themselves so manipulable by buying into that misplaced anger is beyond me.

Is your shift key busted or what's the problem?
3110  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin soda machine no? on: April 07, 2013, 05:37:58 PM
OK if you don't mind standing in front of the machine for 10+ minutes while the transaction clears so it can finally deliver your Coke.

Good point.  Not to mention, the Coke machine would have to be connected to the Internet.  However, if we get to a point where cheap WiFi can be located everywhere, I wouldn't complain.
3111  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-04-06 This is Money.co.uk - "How bankers mesmerised the politicians" on: April 07, 2013, 05:34:24 PM
The older folk may buy into this drivel, but anyone born around computers knows an "anonymous algorithm" translates into "computers are making our lives easier."  Instead of having a human make poor decisions, we now have computers making hard decisions set by humans, which can't be changed because one single human up and changed his mind.  Your computer isn't going to load software against your will because it's bored; we understand this.  Trusting a computer to be fair in the creation of money should come as a pro when compared to Bernanke who, despite most of us displeased with all this money he's printing off, will not stop doing it.  Perhaps this is why the article writer decided not to use America as the counter (because it would've worked marvelously for a currency which comes out of a banker's ass,) and opted for the yen instead; most of us don't know what's going on in Japan and what's going on with the yen, thereby comparing Bitcoin to something foreign that you're not supposed to understand--mark my words, this was not an oversight.
3112  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Forbes : the Biggest threat to Bitcoin is Gavin on: April 07, 2013, 05:26:24 PM
If those same elites made changes to the Bitcoin protocol, you have every option to not use those changes (which would undoubtedly create a hard-fork.)  Their only option is to make these changes, without ever telling you about them, and somehow keeping our current BTC devs quiet (either through unlawful imprisonment or lots of money, the latter of which may not work.)

IF the elites attempted to force a "tax-enabling" client, just don't use it.  You will be a-okay.
3113  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Something that might severely limit Bitcoin's growth potential. on: April 07, 2013, 05:21:47 PM

Yeah, but those things have actual real world value

Bitcoin does not

So Bitcoin can't be used to make pseudo-anonymous payments over the Internet in a timely manner, and it can't act as a store of wealth, either?  Can a service (that literally nothing else offers as well and in one package) not be valuable?  When you call a maid over to clean your house, do you not pay her because you can never own her, nor short her?
3114  Other / Off-topic / Re: I have created the Bitcoin Central Bank and have taken the role as President!!! on: April 07, 2013, 05:13:18 PM
The idea that "someone else will make one, so it might as well be us" doesn't fly.  A central bank is not required, and if someone attempts to create one, I will not consider it a legitimate construct.  There is no "decentralized central bank".  It would be a non-entity.  We need to make a point that these institutions, the channeling of all power through a few heads, is what got us into this mess in the first place.  The Feds fucked up.  Let's not clone their shit plan so we can fuck up all over again.
3115  Other / Off-topic / Re: Nominations open for Country positions of the Crypto Currency Central Bank on: April 07, 2013, 05:08:41 PM
No.
3116  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Abby Gets Hot About Israeli War Crimes on: April 07, 2013, 05:02:11 PM
MAI WHY U KEEP NECROING ALL THESE OLD THREADS?
3117  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin part of the elite, the illuminati, new world order? on: April 07, 2013, 07:49:50 AM
Will the NWO have pizza?
3118  Other / Off-topic / Re: Surely, nobody would fall for this scam! on: April 07, 2013, 06:33:47 AM
What is this, 2001?
3119  Other / Off-topic / Re: Hacking attacks. on: April 07, 2013, 04:36:49 AM
The only hacks are the talking heads.
3120  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cryptocurrency association to homosexuality are not acceptable! on: April 07, 2013, 04:13:02 AM
Well said. But a well-cared-for dick tastes no better - or worse - than your arm. So you might amend that to "They also can't control whether or not they like the taste of dick"

Good call Grin  Fixed it
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