No don't try to diminish poverty in America. Malnutrition is malnutrition. Lead is lead. There is no softer American version of malnutrition. A kid who does not eat breakfast is not going to learn in school. It doesn't matter how good that school is. Kids with lead in their blood are certainly going to have less cognitive development (even though IQ doesn't measure that. Kids in poor countries without plumbing don't even have to worry about lead. The causes TECSHARE listed in bold are all more effects of the root causes I listed. Thats how racism works by design though. If you start paying attention after a certain group isn't allowed to read, then it looks like that group can't read. ...
Second, IQ is a culturally biased test so of course the more different a culture is from the default of the test, the lower scores will be. IQ is not a measure of intelligence. ....
That's not correct, although I'm certain that's what you have been told. IQ is a measure of intelligence, it's only be redefining intelligence that that can be negated. IQ varies between major racial types, but IIRC there are widespread iodine deficiencies in those nations which lowers IQ scores yet again. Realistically you've got to babble this party line because otherwise you'd have no rational basis to demand equal outcomes in schools for racial groups. When you start caring about discrimination against asian-americas in college acceptance I'll start to believe you are human and not a paid bot. There isn't even a scientific basis for race to begin with so your race correlations to IQ are a non starter. Its all just racist propaganda. If your post wasn't completely race based, I'd bother picking apart the claim that IQ measures intelligence comprehensively. The problem with this logic is there are studies correcting for income levels and the results are largely the same, world wide. This indicates a genetic factor. Are you arguing inheritable traits don't exist now? Who is stopping black kids from reading? If anyone it is other black kids telling them to stop acting white. This is again another great example of your Postmodernist deconstructivist horse shit. You claim to be on the side of facts and science when it serves you, then some one makes an argument backed by science, then you deconstruct the concept of the science itself in a pathetic attempt to make it meaningless. Your ONLY tool is to deconstruct. You have no solutions, no creativity, no vision. You are like a pool of bile that just corrodes everything it touches that is convinced it is revolutionary. You are making a huge leap without even citation. There is no genetic basis for race. In fact, there are more genetic differences within races than between them. Saying a child inherited something from their race is just racist nonsense. Saying they inherited it from their family would at least be plausible. Even then though, you are disregarding the environmental causes. Just because children have something in common with their parents, doesn't mean its inherited. You grow up in your parents house breathing the same air, drinking the same water and eating the same food. Environmental factors aren't inherited but are going to be shared by people who live in the same situations in the same areas. Cognitive development is dependent on nutrition, safety, and a lack of environmental toxins like lead (which is in the water in most poor areas in the US). If you knew history, you would understand who stopped black kids from reading but you chose to ignore history and fast-forward to just today which means you have no understanding of the context of the racial situation in the US. You probably don't even understand why blacks live in the polluted parts of the cities either. I state solutions all of the time and have laid out a clear vision to fix all of the major problems in our society. Once again, just because you ignore something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I want to end the root causes or even reverse them. What do you want to do to fix any of this? As usual you have no argument so you need to CHANGE MY WORDS speak for me, then attack that straw man you created. Don't speak for me, I can do that for myself thanks. This is about the lowest form of argument you can get. I asked you "Are you arguing inheritable traits don't exist now?" Are you really claiming intelligence is not inheritable? I didn't use the word race once in my last comment, this is completely an injection of your own creation. I already sourced globally measured IQ levels. We don't live in history, we live now, and now no one is stopping black kids from reading, and they haven't for a long time. The only reason you even bring this up is a pathetic attempt at making an emotion based argument playing off of the collective guilt of the nation for things that people living today had no role or responsibility in in order to again try to use minority groups to push your victim culture based politics, at their expense as usual. Delivering blame, pointing fingers, and teaching people they are victims is not a solution for these people, it is however a solution for the problem of how to push your Marxist Critical Theory Postmodernist deconstructivist horse shit though. Too bad all these minority groups have to suffer for you to have your narrative though. You know what is best for them after all right? You think white people don't live in poor environments too? What about Asians? Much of China is dirt poor and chemically contaminated yet the nation as a whole has higher standard IQs. You are only interested in things that support your own narrative, facts and reality be damned. I already explained above the first part of solving this issue is AWARENESS, which is some thing you seek to prevent because it is counter to your victimization story. |
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Alright lads so what about "I'm fucked part"?
If I assume there is nothing they can find against me, why would I react this way?
You are operating based on the assumption that they are legitimate actors after him. They are not. This was designed as a trap from day 1. Trump is very familiar with "lawfare", and he knows that the law can be bent to make it say whatever those in control want it to say. Nothing else but PRESIDENT HARASSMENT in other words? More like an incomplete attempted coup, and all the rats trying to cover their asses after the fact. |
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Alright lads so what about "I'm fucked part"?
If I assume there is nothing they can find against me, why would I react this way?
You are operating based on the assumption that they are legitimate actors after him. They are not. This was designed as a trap from day 1. Trump is very familiar with "lawfare", and he knows that the law can be bent to make it say whatever those in control want it to say. |
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It is interesting that a forum moderator is engaging in censorship via a self moderated thread, and is trolling in others. This is particularly concerning given how much the forum values free speech. None of the posts in this thread are off topic, and all are attempting to add to the discussion. I guess this fits the left's belief that free speech is bad, and that ideas should not be debated, but rather that opposing ideas should be shouted down. Sad This demonstrates clearly Flying Hellfish either judges people or judges them based on his opinions of their opinions, but most certainly does not judge people based on the merit of their words. |
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No one said the loss of Notre Dame would be ok. Its a cultural loss. The connection is that it shows where your values and perspective are. As a country, you are responsible for damage to so many people's Notre Dame's and hardly bat an eye.
Because they aren't ours... You do understand that what is not yours is less important to you that what is yours no? If you want an example, you'll be pretty sad if terrorists killed your wife/husband even though as a country you have killed millions of loved ones accross the world. You have to realize that the millions of people dying around the world are all fathers sons mothers, daughters and wives. Just to be clear, France is full of sensible people. So is the west. A lot of times it goes unnoticed as a silent majority in a society drowned out by peer pressure and reactionary social media posts. Deep down, i don't believe most westerners are so archaic in their morality. Yellow vests have called for a day of violence in response to this magical production of money nobody had when it came to meeting basic needs of the country. "You're there, looking at all these millions accumulating, after spending five months in the streets fighting social and fiscal injustice. It's breaking my heart," Ingrid Levavasseur, a founding leader of the movement, told the Associated Press ahead of another round of planned protests across France this weekend. "What happened at Notre-Dame is obviously a deplorable tragedy. But nobody died," Levavasseur said. "I've heard someone speaking of national mourning. Are they out of their minds?" On Macron "It took him less than 24 hours to speak about the fire, while he made us wait for three weeks before addressing our issues," she said. "The Yellow Vests will show their anger against the billion found in four days for stones, and nothing for the needy," wrote Pierre Derrien on the Facebook page of a Yellow Vests group based in the southern city of Montpellier. "If they can give dozens of millions to rebuild Notre-Dame, they should stop telling us there is no money to respond to the social emergency," said CGT trade union leader Philippe Martinez. Unfortunately, the corporate media will not report any of this sentiment, nor will they report the police use of teargas and beating of protesters. The images are a threat to capitalism. https://www.france24.com/en/20190420-france-yellow-vests-protests-violence-notre-dame-fire-anger-riot-billion-restorationSolidarity with people not buildings. A day of violence? Horse shit. This stinks like it was drowned in a vat of pig shit and psyops. The yellow vests have been actively seeking peaceful resistance, the violence only came after infiltrators arrived to muddy the waters and make the entire movement look violent. This is the problem with headless organizations, they are easily infiltrated. I warned about this. They did the same thing with Occupy Wallstreet. One day we had the left and the right starting to realize how much we had in common, the next day everything was infiltrated by a bunch of commies and it was "consensus by hand sparkle". |
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No don't try to diminish poverty in America. Malnutrition is malnutrition. Lead is lead. There is no softer American version of malnutrition. A kid who does not eat breakfast is not going to learn in school. It doesn't matter how good that school is. Kids with lead in their blood are certainly going to have less cognitive development (even though IQ doesn't measure that. Kids in poor countries without plumbing don't even have to worry about lead. The causes TECSHARE listed in bold are all more effects of the root causes I listed. Thats how racism works by design though. If you start paying attention after a certain group isn't allowed to read, then it looks like that group can't read. ...
Second, IQ is a culturally biased test so of course the more different a culture is from the default of the test, the lower scores will be. IQ is not a measure of intelligence. ....
That's not correct, although I'm certain that's what you have been told. IQ is a measure of intelligence, it's only be redefining intelligence that that can be negated. IQ varies between major racial types, but IIRC there are widespread iodine deficiencies in those nations which lowers IQ scores yet again. Realistically you've got to babble this party line because otherwise you'd have no rational basis to demand equal outcomes in schools for racial groups. When you start caring about discrimination against asian-americas in college acceptance I'll start to believe you are human and not a paid bot. There isn't even a scientific basis for race to begin with so your race correlations to IQ are a non starter. Its all just racist propaganda. If your post wasn't completely race based, I'd bother picking apart the claim that IQ measures intelligence comprehensively. The problem with this logic is there are studies correcting for income levels and the results are largely the same, world wide. This indicates a genetic factor. Are you arguing inheritable traits don't exist now? Who is stopping black kids from reading? If anyone it is other black kids telling them to stop acting white. This is again another great example of your Postmodernist deconstructivist horse shit. You claim to be on the side of facts and science when it serves you, then some one makes an argument backed by science, then you deconstruct the concept of the science itself in a pathetic attempt to make it meaningless. Your ONLY tool is to deconstruct. You have no solutions, no creativity, no vision. You are like a pool of bile that just corrodes everything it touches that is convinced it is revolutionary. |
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... there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window...
You mean, sort of like people who advocate crypto currencies do?  Bitcoin is a currency and they have existed for a long time. Currencies have been sent electronically in various formats for a long time before bitcoin came along, so no I don't agree with your point and it is kind of irrelevant. I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies. Like giving up all control of your business empire when becoming president, so there is no possibility for a conflict of interest to arise. There are simply too many examples of bad practice and incompetence to list. This is also something a president trying to resist a coup might do... |
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Learn history. The British, Dutch, French, Spanish, Portugese, and American empires killed more people than Stalin could ever dream of and it was all through the power and will of their christian God (according to them). The entire world has been permanently victimized. People also forget the crusades. The impact of Islamic terrorism is miniscule and not even on the same order of magnitude.
Sometimes its easier to see the small, new thing than the thing that is everywhere all around you all the time.
Except Stalin existed in a time where it was accepted that mass slaughter of populations was unacceptable, these other cultures existed in a time where that was the way of the world everywhere. You don't know shit about history, you just vomit up the cherry picked tidbits of sputum that some other Communist hand fed to you to regurgitate on command. The rest of the world has left the middle ages, not Islam. Also, if everyone is permanently victimized, then what is the point of pushing your ideology based upon victim status? |
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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. |
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https://i.imgur.com/aQX7O7S.gifvGREAT NEWS! I got contact from Chad Elwartowski (AKA Elwar) via PM earlier this morning notifying me that he and his girlfriend have been able to escape to nearby Vietnam via boat. They are in good spirits, but still are not out of the woods yet as they still need to leave the region for fear of local intergovernmental relations leading to his potential extradition back to Thailand. As a result for their own safety they will not be posting again until they are home, but he wanted me to thank all of you on his behalf for your kind words and well wishes, and said he hopes to be back on the forum posting soon. He didn't give me much other information for obvious reasons, but at least we know he has made it out of the country, which is very good news. Hopefully we can help bring awareness to this issue so others do not find themselves in a similar situation in the future. Godspeed Elwar. |
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New record, this one took a total of less than 10 seconds to delete. Flying Hellfish must be on red alert after the release of the Muller report to make sure his precious thread full of delusions is not sullied with facts from reliable sources which contradict his preferred collective hallucination. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. |
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Yeah because this conversation is sooooooooo interesting that it would be a shame to censor that xD Anyone not reading our endless ping-pong chat with TECSHARE is clearly missing out something important.  I'm answering TECSHARE. It's not something I deem worthy of being read by anyone more than him. Ever hear of the ignore button? Good thing we have you to tell us who is worthy of being read around here. |
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https://i.imgur.com/aQX7O7S.gifvGREAT NEWS! I got contact from Chad Elwartowski (AKA Elwar) via PM earlier this morning notifying me that he and his girlfriend have been able to escape to nearby Vietnam via boat. They are in good spirits, but still are not out of the woods yet as they still need to leave the region for fear of local intergovernmental relations leading to his potential extradition back to Thailand. As a result for their own safety they will not be posting again until they are home, but he wanted me to thank all of you on his behalf for your kind words and well wishes, and said he hopes to be back on the forum posting soon. He didn't give me much other information for obvious reasons, but at least we know he has made it out of the country, which is very good news. Hopefully we can help bring awareness to this issue so others do not find themselves in a similar situation in the future. Godspeed Elwar.
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The only people who are unwilling to have an open debate are those selling lies.
Nope. There are also the people tired of your double standards, your stupidity and your bad faith No one forces you to interact with me fat man. You seek it out, you challenge me in a debate, you fail miserably, then you cry that I am being stupid and have double standards, and repeat. If you don't like criticism don't post to a public forum designed to host open discussion. |
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NO. We shouldn't say that to them because they are also people that need love from each other. We need to stop saying it to them and we should understand what they are experiencing right now. We are not perfect people so we should correct our wrong doings.
That strategy works if the other party is reciprocal. If they have hostile intent then you are simply committing suicide in a very politically correct way. |
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Funny any time I make a report if it is responded to at all it takes a week or 2 to be marked bad, but if I post in his self moderated thread he always seems to react in mere seconds. The only people who are unwilling to have an open debate are those selling lies. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Mueller's report established multiple links between the Trump campaign and the Russian government... they were working towards the same goal and both benefited from working together!
Collusion delusion for sure... Cognitive dissonance. You suffer from it. If he is so guilty why no indictments? You and I are linked via this discussion with a goal of discovering the truth. YOU MUST BE COLLUDING WITH ME! Don't you get it yet? YOU ARE THE RUSSIAN MEDDLING. Walking, talking, cognitive dissonance, causing maximum disruption and division because your ego will not allow you to challenge your beliefs. This is what Russia has been doing to the USA since at least the 60's and probably earlier. Divide and conquer, balkanization, victim culture. You take a good concept and then abuse it and stretch the idea to the point that it becomes malignant, people push back, they and the true believers are divided and fight each other instead of the greater enemy. People like you are a GIFT to the Russians. |
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