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5261  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuela Off Topic Split on: March 10, 2019, 11:33:56 PM
We were far off topic because you insist on accusing me of supporting Venezuela's failed policies.  I don't.  No one does.

These are all observably false statements. If you were not talking about Venezuela wtf were you doing in the thread about Venezuela to begin with? I am done with this nub of a thread, you enjoy yourself.



Minutes after writing my previous post internet went out, and later electricity, for nearly 24 hours more. We had another whole night in darkness...

The ineptitude of those usurping power "in the name of socialism" is the only reason this is occurring. Not any "evil" imperialist action. If the US actually engaged their cyber division, it would be combined with something else...

As i have wrote before in other posts, they have have let all State owned companies rot, mostly because of their same failed economic policies.

Someone related to the State company wrote some numbers:

  • Venezuela depends 80% from the single Guri hydroelectric dam
  • Over 70% of the transformers nationwide are past their due lifetime
  • 48% of the workers have quit, and left the country (due to the miserable wages)


There is a LONG transmission line from the south of the country where this dam is to the north where most of the population lives. Chávez himself noted this weakness in 2010 (when a similar blackout incident occurred for a few hours) and spent countless millions purchasing and building a backup system using natural gas, but all of this is gone under Maduro...

Within this transmission line, a critical substation (Malena) near the dam has been neglected any maintenance, the foliage grew up so much it shutdown two 765 kW lines and a third by overload. This is to give you an example of the truth behind "imperialist US attacks", and the kind of trustworthiness Maduro has.


I am sorry your very relevant post got separated out because of a leftist numbskull comfortable in a functional capitalist nation is unable to handle criticism. I hope you can find a way to maintain your independence and rebuild society in spite of all these international forces wishing to interfere, be it the USA, Russia, or China.
5262  Other / Meta / Re: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: March 10, 2019, 10:54:34 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119154.0

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There is no reason this topic needed to be split other than to satiate Flying Hellfish's need to marginalize people he doesn't agree with. This subject is all very much on topic as it relates directly to Venezuela and its systems of government. Venezuela is a Socialist nation and he was attempting (poorly) to argue for it.

How exactly is anyone going to learn from the mistakes made in Venezuela if you are just picking and choosing what parts of the discussion should be had?
5263  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's wrong with Secondary Education in the US, and some solutions on: March 10, 2019, 10:29:02 PM
Abandoning trade schools and manufacturing wasn't a mistake. It was a plan. This was purposely done to create systems of global interdependence and put the USA in a vulnerable state in preparation for its harvest and stripping of resources, and the roll out for global government. In order to do this our manufacturing capability first had to be gutted. This also conveniently served to create lots of student debt the banker class can leech off of and rehypothecate in the process.
5264  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuela Off Topic Split on: March 10, 2019, 10:22:46 PM
I don't redefine anything but am aware that there are multiple definitions in use for the same words across different time periods, groups of people, and regions.  Being able to consider multiple perspectives is part of social intelligence.  I don't support any totalitarian ideologies.  I support the same things they have in Denmark, which you just said is not socialist, but I am, so you are stuck in this endless loop of semantics.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-does-socialism-mean-and-how-is-it-shaping-2020/
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Kazin said the socialism most Americans are embracing is what Europeans would call social democracy, a view associated with mainstream parties like the Labour Party in the U.K. and the SPD in Germany. This version, Kazin said, advocates "a much larger welfare state where everyone is pretty much guaranteed a place to live, a job, or at least good benefits if they can't find a job, health care that they can afford, which is subsidized by the government."

After decades on the fringes of American political discourse, the Democratic Socialists of America is enjoying a surge in membership and interest. Although still small compared to other political interest groups, it's ballooned from 7,000 to some 50,000 members since the 2016 election, according to organizers. Ocasio-Cortez is a member, as is fellow first-term Rep. Rashida Tlaib.

Chris Riddiough, a founding member of the Democratic Socialists of America who now serves as a DSA National Political Committee member, said DSA strives to represent a "big tent" of socialism. But at its core, she says, socialism entails a belief that the American economy treats people unfairly and must be put on a new course.

"In DSA we define our politics as a big tent of socialism," Riddiough said. "And that means our view is that there is not a correct line on socialism. But in general, we believe that it encompasses the idea of economic and political and civil democracy so that people have the resources they need to make it in the world. So we support things like Medicare for All, some of the recent child-care proposals, college tuition breaks, things like that. And we believe that the economy in particular over the last 20, 30 years or so has become increasingly undemocratic."
These are the same things the Danish PM talked about.  You can't say we are marxists and then say Denmark is not without pointing out significant differences in policy.  I will let you choose whatever labels you want, but they have to be applied consistently.


you to a T


This would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad and destructive. Cartoons are always the epoch of any internet debate. Lets look at this gem of logic and reason.

1. You espouse Marxist policies.
2. You claim you want Socialism like in Nordic countries.
3. I point out those aren't Socialist countries.
4. I again refer to #1.
5. You then point back at me as if the gap in logic is my responsibility because I referred to #1.

The logical fallacy is yours. You are unable to create a simple logical premise with defined terminology and follow through with logic to support it. You rely completely on dancing about from point to point when cornered, constantly shifting perspectives as if schizophrenic and consider it a valid argument.

This is why Critical Theory, Postmodernism, and the Marxist base they came from are all brainwashing cancerous trash. You are walking proof of it. Your mind is completely incapable of defining terminology, presenting a premise, and following through with those definitions until the conclusion of a SINGLE ARGUMENT. Then you have the nerve to preach to me about semantics. You are an infant who thinks he is a God. When everything becomes relative, everything becomes irrelevant. Your mind is mush.
5265  Other / Meta / Re: DT members - ethical to sell DT services? on: March 10, 2019, 09:23:19 PM
However, if it's allowed and remains out in the open it may expose some DT members with ulterior motives.

This is exactly why even if this is an issue, it is really a non-issue. If people play that game of pay for ratings it gets obvious pretty quick, and then that account is done.
5266  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuela Off Topic Split on: March 10, 2019, 07:40:24 PM
Since I take no part in name-calling, I will play the game by your rules and use all of your definitions and see if we get anywhere.

"Marxism is totalitarian"

ok fine.  Then I am not marxist and in that case, I and every other democratic socialist I've seen in the US denounce marxism and therefore denounce marxist policies that have led to failures throughout history. 

See, but you are a Marxist, because you support Marxist ideologies. This is just you picking more words to redefine. "Democratic Socialism" is nothing more than Fabian Socialism renamed, also an off chute of Marxism.
5267  Other / Meta / Re: DT members - ethical to sell DT services? on: March 10, 2019, 07:33:27 PM
Pay for reviews happens all the time. As long as it is disclosed it is totally ethical, and he did make a public request... It amazes me some times how determined people are to make a crime out of anything they can. I guess it is just too bad the system we have here incentivizes this behavior rather than taking up the legitimate (and somewhat more difficult task) of finding real con artists. It is much easier to set up and knock down straw men.
5268  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The death of cash on: March 10, 2019, 07:12:29 PM
I've been saying it since 1970 when  Margaret Thatcher ( the Bilderberg Bird ), started to sell off out national assets, and allowed the introduction of fractional reserve banking amongst other things.

That's cool you have psychic abilities and predicted crypto in 1970. Cool story bro.
5269  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Power outage in Venezuela on: March 10, 2019, 07:10:46 PM
Having to resort to personal attacks rather than reasoned logic is more indicative of your myopia and insecurity. You should stop believing the Washington controlled propaganda news sheets, and stop to think about the credibility of the false reports they produce..

Here is a report by Max Blumenthal following his visit to Venezuela. You are welcome to attack me over that, but many of his points seem to ring true to me, and they fit many of the facts and history that I know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfD-7_kXs9E

Sorry but when you say something as retarded as the USA's energy grid is just as deteriorated or worse than Venezuela's, you kind of are begging for it. That is beyond retarded and you deserve to be called out for it. You make the mistake of believing that if I don't drink down your version of horse shit I must be drinking Washington's horse shit. That's not how it works, maybe for you... not for me.
5270  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuela Off Topic Split on: March 10, 2019, 07:07:36 PM
Like I said before, I don't care what words are used, thats why I wrote out the specific policies I support and named countries that have already adopted that set of policies.  I've explained the what, why and how and all you've done is say that its totalitarianism without justification.   We can use whatever words you'd like because anytime you see a word being used outside of your preferred definition, you completely shutdown.  It may just be because you have no interest in  anything other than semantics.   Your entire argument was based on calling my idea totalitarian and equating them with Venezuela but that is hard to do when talking about the specific policies. 

oh no... here I go shutting down again

I know you don't care what words are used. As a result of not caring what words are used, you also do not care about logic, since logic can not be formulated without words and designated definitions of them. Of course you don't value intelligence by your own admission so...

There is a big difference between words having a definition and semantics. Marxism is inherently totalitarian, it is a fact not only demonstrated by logic but hundreds of years of history of failures of it. You have people who live there telling you that you are mistaken and you still worship at the feet of your god, the bearded ass boil infested free shit santa you call Marx.

Maybe you can prey to him to bring you a dictionary so you can learn how words are actually defined instead of changing them at your convenience and accusing me of relying on semantics in the same breath. Even your criticisms of me aren't even original, they are simply a regurgitated refractory repetition of what I just said to you. I have had more interesting debates with 8 year olds.

5271  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The death of cash on: March 10, 2019, 02:06:41 PM
Careful you are starting to sound like me. The interesting coin will be the proposed Bahamas coin. That is likely to be the one created by the City of London.

I have been saying this for a really long time, years in fact. It amazes me how fast people take a tool of ultimate freedom for humanity and immediately try to turn it right back into the broken system they just got the tools to escape from.
5272  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Power outage in Venezuela on: March 10, 2019, 01:45:49 PM
Reports seem to indicate that the infrastructure in the US is in a greater degree of collapse than that of Venezuela. Washington has stated publicly that they were going to do it, and then shortly afterwards it happened. It's like all the fake rubbish they are pushing about their unwanted "aid" that just replicates the stuff that Russia, China,and the Red Cross are sending. Venezuela has so much aid that they are even giving some to Columbia, and that country is in a far worse position.


That's... wow. Just wow. You are way more unhinged than I gave you credit for.
5273  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Power outage in Venezuela on: March 10, 2019, 12:46:48 PM
The Last American Vagabond makes some interesting points about the power outage in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fea61lqEWrg

Given the current tweets and previous actions by Washington, I'm inclined to believe that they commissioned the outage in an attempt to continue their ambition to force regime change in Venezuela, Nothing else seems to fit the probabilities and the facts as they emerge.

Nothing else? So you find it totally unbelievable that their collapsing infrastructure everywhere else is an indicator of the state of the power grid? Nope the CIA burned down the power plant. I have no desire to hold water for tyrants and usurpers but this is infantile.
5274  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuela Off Topic Split on: March 10, 2019, 12:40:55 PM
My ideology matches up a lot more closely with countries like Iceland, Sweden and Denmark.  The people who have lived through the results tell me its a great success and they love it.  You are mischaracterizing the specific set of policies I support and are using a vague umbrella term to try and align me with things I am against.  

Those aren't Socialist nations. The Prime Minister of Denmark annoyed with this constant assertion even came out and chastised the implication.

https://www.thelocal.dk/20151101/danish-pm-in-us-denmark-is-not-socialist

I am not mischaracterizing anything. The ideologies you support are based in Marxism. Marxism is inherently totalitarian. Maybe you can demand I make your argument for you some more. That will fix it.
but I don't support the nations you call socialist nor do I endorse their policies.  I support the policies that have been adopted in Denmark.  If that means I am not socialist, then fine, you don't have to call me a socialist.  I have no interest in semantics.  Never did. I do have interest in discussing policies though so lets look at what the man said.

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Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy,” Rasmussen said.
I don't think we should have a planned economy nor does anyone I know of including democratic socialists and those in the socialist party.

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“The Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security for its citizens, but it is also a successful market economy with much freedom to pursue your dreams and live your life as you wish,” he added.
True freedom with everyone's basic needs met? That is all I really stand for so I agree here. confusion comes when a lot of people say "welfare is socialism"  but those same people say "welfare creates venezuela" but when you point to denmark they say "but denmark isn't socialist".   Its a circular game of semantics.

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“We also have a strong and fee educational system. Students in institutions for higher education and university do not pay for their education, on the contrary they receive educational grants for studying,” he added.
Free tuition and UBI? I agree again here.  

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“So, what is the catch you might ask. The most obvious one, of course,  is the high taxes. The top income tax in Denmark is almost 60 percent. We have a 25 percent sales tax and on cars the incise duties are up to 180 percent. In total, Danish taxes come to almost half of our national income compared to around 25 percent in the US. Quite a substantial difference,” he said.
High taxes on the wealthy?  I agree again here.

These are all the policies I, and any democratic socialist want to see put in place and they are all the same policies you see in the nordic model.  Combine that with insanely high union participation rates and mandated union decisions throughout entire sectors, and you can see how Nordic countries have a high degree of worker control.


Are these policies socialist?  Donald Trump and much of the American media sure thinks so.  The point is, the definition is jumbled and the word is defined differently by so many people that it is useless in American discourse.  
https://www.google.com/search?q=free+college+socialism&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiB-YK_k_fgAhU4JDQIHTOyBtcQ_AUIDigB&biw=1416&bih=651

Whatever they are, there is a stark contrast between the policies there and the policies you call "marxist" and no one in America is advocating for what you call marxism.  Everyone on the far American left denounces authoritarian policies and closely aligns with the "not socialist" policies spelled out in that article.   Its actually quite funny that I have to go this far to explain how a group of people who want to abolish law enforcement agencies and prisons do not embrace totalitarian rule.  

We never see eye to eye because if a word conflicts with your beliefs, you simply redefine it. You are the ideological equivalent of a child in a toy store just pointing at everything saying I WANT I WANT I WANT but then when asked why you want it, or what you are going to do with it, all you can do is give a confused look and repeat I WANT I WANT I WANT.
5275  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The death of cash on: March 10, 2019, 12:37:32 PM
Crypto is the conditioning mechanism for training the next generation to accept a cashless society. This is what people don't get about crypto, it is simultaneously the single most powerful tool to free humanity from the predatory parasite banking system, and that banking system's plans for complete enslavement. There will be a bifurcation of coins. There will be the Good state approved coins which meet all the KYC and AML requirements, and all the other terrorist Iranian, Russian hacker, North Korean money laundering, drug dealing Venezuelan, global warming, pedophile coins.
5276  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] (ends today) Over 30 lots of silver bitcoin coins on: March 10, 2019, 07:21:02 AM
Is this what we all gave you a second chance for Killyou72? Settle your debts. This little running and hiding like a child game is not acceptable.
5277  Other / Politics & Society / Re: De-monetization of basic life requirements and beyond. on: March 10, 2019, 06:41:48 AM
In my experience, most (not all) university classes are basically taught from the textbook. If you have the discipline to self-study a textbook, then it has roughly the same effectiveness in many cases. For courses which fall into this category, university is mostly a motivational tool to get you to really study the book so that you get decent grades and don't waste your tuition. Considering the high university drop-out rate and student loan debt in the US, better and less expensive motivational tools may exist...

Furthermore, I think that both high schools and universities aren't worthwhile for the vast majority of people who go to them. The exact path which each person would be best-off taking varies, but IMO the average person would be better-off dropping out of high school ASAP and then combining a part-time job with self-study, online courses, community college courses, etc. in their areas of interest. Education is important, but high school especially is 90% babysitting and only 10% education - a big waste of time.

Demonetizing education would be a disaster, in my opinion.  It's already been hijacked by leftest who use it as an opportunity to indoctrinate our youth.  There's little incentive for a success driven individual to pursue a career in education.  As it is it attracts the those we gen-Xers termed as "slackers."  Providing the best service, or good value is rarely within the capabilities of government agencies.  It's almost exclusively limited to private enterprise steeped in healthy competition.



If it is free, you are the product.

Or they expect you to be the sucker.  Remember when they used to give away pneumatic nail guns?  The nail strips averaged out so the nails were almost $0.25 each.  


Actually I see some promising open source educational systems. I am going to wager a guess you are referring to state subsidized "free" education, not literal lesson plans available for use for all on the internet. Now as far as certifications go, I agree there needs to be some kind of standard setting authority to weed the incompetent people out. We should not however confuse free with government funded, and education with a certification or a degree. They are not always the same thing.
5278  Economy / Reputation / Re: Would like to know the opinion of community about the REPUTATION of this user. on: March 10, 2019, 03:36:09 AM
I don’t see any reason why you need to wait for this persons work to be completed in order to get paid.

IMO, this is shady on the part of whoever is in charge of paying the translators.

I didnt knew about this. This is handled by my boss, my task is to organize a group of translators, and that was all. Anyway, it has some sense.. if i am the owner of a company, and make a deal with another company, i wont pay until all work is finished. Nothing shaddy at all...
These people have completed a job, but have not been compensated as agreed? I can’t imagine how anyone could argue this is okay (assuming there are no outstanding concerns with the work, which doesn’t appear to be the case here).

If this person is taking a long time to complete their work, you can consider not hiring him in the future

He made it quite clear his contract with the party that solicited the work is for the entire completed project. If he made an agreement with the rest of the people he subcontracted that is his responsibility. Before that can be determined the parties who actually did the translation should probably chime in. If they agreed to complete the project contingent on these terms then there is no foul play here, and one guy is just holding up the whole operation. While I might consider this poor management, I do not consider it fraudulent by any means (assuming all parties agreed to these terms).
5279  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shouldn't the goal be no work on: March 10, 2019, 01:57:33 AM
Am I the only one concerned about what the elite will do once the masses are no longer employed and no longer have value to them as workers within the systems they control? I mean it is getting to the point where robots and AI can do almost anything... at that point the masses of humanity are more of a threat to them than anything. This not a good position to be in when people with indescribable amounts of power and nearly limitless resources see you more valuable as a corpse than a free human being. IMO this should be our primary collective concern, the conditions are ripe for a harvest... and they just so happen to have a sickle ready.


5280  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Putin's hand at the White House on: March 10, 2019, 01:44:34 AM
....violating the rules of registration as a foreign agent - before working with Trump, he worked for the ex-president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. ....

And everyone knew it. It's been repeatedly reported in newspapers and media. Wasn't concealed or any kind of secret.

Its almost like this was part of his job... oh wait... it was.
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