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No one with a soul will buy this coin.
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Dude, go take some medication and lie down, the white paper which I expect covers all your questions is coming out in a short time.
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There are also some false claims such as their staking being more energy efficient, when it is an exact line for line clone of Peercoin, just rewritten in C++ 11. Videlicet was referring at that time to the code that John Connor had uploaded to github. John later revealed that it was 'fake' code designed to throw off haters or whatever. So, videlicet was correct about the code that he saw. But it turned out that it wasn't the actual code of the coin. Just a trick to throw off haters/catch people out/waste the time of code reviewers. No, john was referring to the zerotime test code and fake whitepaper for zerotime, not the committed code that has been open sourced and able to be compiled for some time. why would a dev post a fake whitepaper / code? fudding his own project? its been bothering me since i read that. If he's just one person, with the speed he pumps out lines of code, he's truly a genius in my opinion; but sometimes he does things I don't understand, like that. I believe his reasoning was that he would get a lot of devs to attack him because of obvious flaws and then when the real paper and code were released, they'd have to really look into it. hmmmm. well its his call, he is the dev, but seems foolish to post fake code, because then you have a 100% chance of bringing FUD to your doorstep. But he showed a lot of so called experts were in fact scammy FUDers....you should be calling out them not a John Connor for exposing them....Personally I thought it was a great move. I would do something similar in his position if I had thought of it. I dont think posting fake code / whitepaper could ever be a "great move" in any situation. Cause you're just a forum poster who never worked on a project for months to see it attacked by people....like yourself. Grow up... |
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why would a dev post a fake whitepaper / code? fudding his own project? its been bothering me since i read that.
I think there is a reason but it involves some empathy in order to logically understand. We know he has been working on it for a long time, a year prior to launch. Personally, I think he would have waited even longer if there wasn't a modicum of excitement and/or a need to start testing his code with an operating blockchain in real time. Keep in mind, a ton of basic work went into his project before he even revealed that ZT was a thing...months. Further, considering the more or less common knowledge that he is a 20 year vet within the P2P field, the decision to embark on this project as a full time job probably was made with much consideration. Involved in that consideration was a knowledge of what the altcoin community is like. Think about it for a second. This is a terrible community. Scams are everywhere, collaboration is close to 'not so much', scam devs are copying code and releasing new coins with promises in order to get the first 'spike pump' and then leave, and most of the threads in the altcoin community are peppered with inane BS that no sane person would tolerate in a normal social forum. Chances are, he is very well aware of how toxic some aspects of the altcoin community are and has every intention of releasing material...but if it isn't ready then it isn't ready. Further, providing misinformation, or mystery, is potentially a valid way to gain information on the community that he is working in tandem with. I use the phrase 'in tandem' very loosely because the interaction is necessary but there is no real collaboration between devs and speculators. It is an important distinction to make... Jump into IRC and communicate with him - he talks every day. If he says the white paper is coming with actual math (he posted a paragraph a few days ago) then it is coming. He started this project wanting no hype and went months without it. Very productive months. It sounds fishy because you are used to a crypto alt scene that is fishy - I'm sure he thinks the same thing. The thing is, he has delivered everything he has promised and then some. Some of you seem to forget that he just released the bitstream for FPGA...do you have any idea what that means and how many other devs have done that (None)? Be patient and see what happens... Edit to add - I like the VNL community and aspects of other communities...but to be honest, there is no stopping people from muscling their internet posts. Tis the reason why I referred to it as terrible. Valid disclaimer and one that should be met with reflection rather than indignation... I agree, and also add that people have become so accustomed to scammy untrustworthy behaviour they simply don't know how to deal with genuine projects in the alt coin community.....of which there are many. Plus it also reflects on som elf the accusers cause they are so scammy themselves they project that on others assuming everyone are scumbags like themselves. I'm not suggesting people aren't cautious but there IS a middle ground where people don't assume everyone is out to scam them and actually are creating awesome things. Alt community is Bi Polar, they either hype and believe a new coin will end world hunger or that a coin is made my Satan to kill us all.....I miss the middle ground in discussions.....hard to find. |
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There are also some false claims such as their staking being more energy efficient, when it is an exact line for line clone of Peercoin, just rewritten in C++ 11. Videlicet was referring at that time to the code that John Connor had uploaded to github. John later revealed that it was 'fake' code designed to throw off haters or whatever. So, videlicet was correct about the code that he saw. But it turned out that it wasn't the actual code of the coin. Just a trick to throw off haters/catch people out/waste the time of code reviewers. No, john was referring to the zerotime test code and fake whitepaper for zerotime, not the committed code that has been open sourced and able to be compiled for some time. why would a dev post a fake whitepaper / code? fudding his own project? its been bothering me since i read that. If he's just one person, with the speed he pumps out lines of code, he's truly a genius in my opinion; but sometimes he does things I don't understand, like that. I believe his reasoning was that he would get a lot of devs to attack him because of obvious flaws and then when the real paper and code were released, they'd have to really look into it. hmmmm. well its his call, he is the dev, but seems foolish to post fake code, because then you have a 100% chance of bringing FUD to your doorstep. But he showed a lot of so called experts were in fact scammy FUDers....you should be calling out them not a John Connor for exposing them....Personally I thought it was a great move. I would do something similar in his position if I had thought of it. |
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Here's the great thing about Ethereum. The people who support the project can read.  You can read, great! Now answer the OP question that you read so well? QUANTITY!!!! how else is valuation made on ETH? |
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That's why I asked earlier about the comprehensiveness of the auto-destruction feature of chats & pix. Teens do what teens do, and an app that features "Strong Privacy!!" will encourage teens to do a certain intimate something with their "friends with benefits." That's why I was asking whether the auto-delete feature hashes the posts, pix, etc. into unrecoverability.
Call me whatever, but I had a vision of a teen who's deeply into that kind of intimate sharing: her cell phone is stolen and falls into the wrong hands. The hands of someone who's tech-savvy enough to undelete, and who has no qualms about sending what he finds to a certain network of dark-web creeps. This worry was prompted by the fact that I have two nieces, both prepubescent right now. It began with me imagining that I introduced GetGems to them, they liked it, became regular users, and so on.
I'm still waiting on an answer to that question.
You seem to be implying that having strong privacy and the ability to delete pics, etc. is a bad thing because it might encourage kids to be more reckless than they might otherwise be. When I was a teenager my girlfriend and I had sex anywhere we could. I even remember being on a school trip on a school bus and I was masturbating her under a blanket, lol. Kids are horny and reckless and they are going to do what they are going to do. More security, if anything, might make the app more appealing to teens but it certainly doesn't mean that with weaker security they might somehow behave better. I THINK his point is more about can someone recover deleted photos, chat. Well I assume not cause that the whole point of deleting a message, is there any messenger that once you clear messages etc they can be recovered anyway? While I don't have the facts, with telegram focused on privacy then I'm confident, delete means delete. and of course encryption end to end. You can also set messages to auto destruct. telegram i think doesn't have central storage of people's stuff, snapchat was susposed to be the fail safe option for teens but they were found to be storing on central servers. |
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Better than no source of funding at all like your melted vanilla ice cream coin.
It's a shame there's no proof that vanillashit even works apart from a nice GUI in a YouTube video.
Again you paid internet trolls are defending Ethereum by attacking another coin. So what if vanilla coin is the scam of the century......does that fact make Etherum less over valued? |
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I'm confused, I barely remember bitbay, maybe bought a bit in the ipo and dumped them, I never owned anything more than a couple of btc.
Defending Ethereum by attacking another coin (vanilla) makes no sense to me, and very little financial risk as I own again a very small amount at present.
I don't believe in karma....pagan fools.
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Not really. The price shows the expectation that the dev team will begin to dump ether. But in an interview I watched vitalik said there would be no need to liquidate ether because they have "other sources" of funding.
Other sources......thank you Goldman Sachs.. |
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The problem is that virtual synchrony, which is the mechanism used to synchronise the mempools is not designed for Byzantine failures: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_synchronyNone of the three models can handle more complex failures, such as machines that are taken over by a virus, or a network that sometimes modifies the messages transmitted. The so-called Byzantine agreement model goes beyond the data replication schemes discussed here by also solving such issues, but does so at a price: Byzantine replication protocols typically require larger numbers of servers, and can be much slower. So, if you can pretend to be multiple clients (of which the cost is zero), you can influence replication and therefore affect a double spend. This is essentially a sybil attack. Thank you for saving me some time. You don't seem that busy since you can do various comments...
You are here at my desk? What is a "slot" in regards to ZT? It will be funny to see your answer.
Just answer the challenge to show some proof of your algorithm's capability for Byzantine fault tolerance, and stop playing "obfuscation by naming semantics" shell games. Why not answer the question about slots? |
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Such bag holding
Such fuel
Such wow
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I think as someone who has invested in vanilla coin then I think John Conner is obliged to answer his critics on this specific issue. I can't see why he wouldn't if he has dealt with it?
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Why is John Connor not giving some kind of detail about how attacks are prevented?
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I won't be buying your Goldman Sachs coin.
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Seems to me the fans of ETH want it both ways, when challenged on the unlimited supply they reference that ETH is not a currency but a fuel and then go on about how its going to be worth $50 in a year. blah blah.
So economics 101, if the supply increases and even if it didn't if ETH is not an actual currency that has potential demand due to increased hoped for future use then what exactly are people basing the value of this 'fuel' on?
So it seems no one has asked what the demand even is for this 'fuel' Maybe Ethereum can be massive but still the demand is relatively low, know one knows as no one is even talking about it? Or more importantly quantified it.....
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Instant sending needs to be done. I think I know how to do it. I don't think VanillaCoin's method is sound per my post in the other thread. Let's see what John Conner has to say about it.
As I wrote before, the DarkPP is apparently vaporware. Afaics, nothing has been revealed about anonymity. I've (as AnonyMint) have been working on anonymity for 2 years. I doubt very much he has the innovations on anonymity that I have.
Thats purely speculation until John has answered. |
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paging John Conner.  ....or bat phone to Wayne Manor? |
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I'm thinking about investing in it, I bought a little but wondering on more.
My hypothesis is simple, it sends and confirms under a second, is decentralised and is anonomous. In the end that really what people want, ie send money instantly with no double spend, who wants to wait a few minutes to buy something?
Right or wrong?
Pretty simple: lack of real demand. There are plenty of established coins with the same or similar features, and with lot more marketing. BTW functionality sometimes means nothing. Take a look at Qora or NXT and then take an other look at the big bunch of copy-paste-no invention shitcoins with far better exchange rates. Name them? As far as I know Dash is slower but more importantly isn't fully centralised. Give me one coin that moves coins with confirmations quicker and is anonymous and then your point is sound. Bear in mind this isn't a feature thing where new coded coins say oh we can do comic trilateral node configurations with an inbuilt game and selfie function. The simple fact is people need to send money instantly, safely and anonymously.....this coin as far as I can see can't be bet in that, right? So the natural progression is to use the fastest that works right? I mean who wants to use 3G when there is 5G? I have too much respect for Bitcoin and its creator to suggest it could take over Bitcoin but think like this, once masses find out about crypto will they want to send money in a second or a few minutes or even more? A few minutes to buy a latte in starbucks will get old pretty soon. lol Vanilla coin could become the little brother of Bitcoin, for fast payments while Bitcoin is the older more established brother for slow moving funds. |
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Is the OP involved in Vanilla coin in anyway?
I stated my position in the OP, can't you read? |
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