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1501  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMS]| SOCIAL MESSAGING APP THAT REWARDS ITS USERS |PRE-SALE LIVE NOW| on: December 08, 2014, 05:54:47 PM
I don't actually use messenger apps so I don't know the current uses and trends in the West. But I live in Asia and two apps the devlopers should have a look at is LINE and KakaoTalk. Both have moved from simple chat apps to semi social media apps with a small gallery of photos and current status showing etc. Plus Kakoatalk has an offshoot to a more dveloped FB like site called Kakao Story. Long term I think GEMS has to be more than a bare bones messenging app.
1502  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: SendChat™ | Messaging App Integrated With Bitcoin & Sendcoin | www.sendchat.org on: December 08, 2014, 05:45:40 PM
If you do then great! Real faces on the line gives a massive legitimacy to a project, it shows you're serious and hope to fulfil promises.
1503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Open Source December 9 on: December 08, 2014, 05:42:55 PM
Even though there are some heavy selling too I've not seen the market look this healthy for months with vol getting back to where we were after launch.
1504  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: SendChat™ | Messaging App Integrated With Bitcoin & Sendcoin | www.sendchat.org on: December 08, 2014, 05:26:45 PM
New Video up! You will be able to use SendChat with your Smart Watch.





Why is everything we have seen of the app an animation?

You need to show some screen shots or videos or working betas at least, the Jetsons didn't convince me we could have Flying cars.

pLus how about a video with one or two of the developers, even now we only have Twitter accounts etc. With a year or so of effort a fake online identity is not hard for anyone to create.
1505  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 08, 2014, 12:02:46 PM
What are you guys going to do when this project turns out to be legit?

Buy them cheap. Instead of wasting money on the overpriced ICO I can have 5-10 times the number by buying at a later time.


That's not logical and also shows you are out to lower the price rather that legitimately call this out as a scam. The only correct answer would be its a scam.

How can it be overpriced if the project is legit and therefore is gunning to be a decentralised ebay? That makes the marketcap of 3,000btc pocket change compared to the potential a semi popular decentralised trading site is worth. Surely we could be talking billions if popular.

I guess you could say you've shown your hand if we were playing poker.
1506  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 08, 2014, 09:59:48 AM
What are you guys going to do when this project turns out to be legit?
1507  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMS]| SOCIAL MESSAGING APP THAT REWARDS ITS USERS |PRE-SALE LIVE NOW| on: December 08, 2014, 05:23:29 AM
Something very important, don't know if the gems team has thought about it.
Lets say i have never heard of crypto and use the gems app and i want to send unsolicitate messages. Where do i buy gemz in the first place? Considering the app is all about simplicity for the common user, shouldn't there be a buy gemz option in the app?
As I understand, every new user can get a few GEMS via “airdrop” giveaways. The user that invited you also have GEMS so you may ask him some.
You can buy GEMS from any user with cash (or other way) exactly like Bitcoin when you trade in person.
Nowadays, there are more and more possibilities to buy Bitcoin directly with a bank card so anyone able to make a purchase on Internet can afford Bitcoins & get GEMS.
I think the starting point of GEM project was to make cryptocurrency mainstream.
Fair enough but what if i want to buy more gemz than the user can offer me, or someone wants to spend a lot of gemz. There should be a simple buy gems button for users who want to buy it. I hope the devs make this process easy aswell then it will be gold, i'm purely talking from a newbie standpoint who even doesn't know what bitcoin is, which the common user pretty much is.

I can imagine a direct buy button doing this :
Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> BTC on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user
or
Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user
or
simply a fixed rate by the company that will always be more expensive than the real market

The final user would only see the current FIAT/GEMS price, pay with credit card and get his GEMS on his account.

GEMS would need an exchange doing different pairs : FIAT/BTC, FIAT GEMS, BTC/GEMS, ...
Maybe an advanced feature inside the app for traders ? Not needed but it would be cool.




Your thinking like a crypto head not an average new to Bitcoin user. A simple fiat to Gems Or BTC is all you need similar to how you buy credits on games for example. Trading should not go anywhere near the app and should be discouraged generally not even a simple swap BTC for GEMS ability. Then the focus needs to be on spending your gems and BTC and encouraging vendors to take GEMS as well as BTC. Once you start having advanced features even if they are hidden in a tab ruin the simple principle of user friendliness.

The crypto community has been making this same mistake for a while now because what they see as simple really isn't for the average non technical person. An app to go mainstream needs to be stupidly easy to use, once people see how they can easily buy stuff by sending BTC or GEMS they will be hooked.
1508  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Open Source December 9 on: December 05, 2014, 03:26:54 PM
How many coins have their own source code?

And how many of them is open source?



How many fingers you got on your hand?
1509  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Open Source December 9 on: December 05, 2014, 08:35:03 AM
People should get more confident about Qora now everyone can see its not NXT related. This coin could soar even past NXT. So why are some people still dumping at 13 & 14sats? Roll Eyes We could do 50-100 sats easy without that kind of silliness.

They might have bought at 6 or 7.  Or there is still concern that there is always a chance that it might not be completely new code but still a version of NXT that has just veered.  More like a Bitcoin to Litecoin type of thing.   I am not saying that is the case, I am just saying that fear can make people pause a bit.  

There is also the fact that Qora saw a huge dip and price manipulation going down to even 3 satoshi for a moment briefly before this announcement.  To a newbie coming into the community, it looks awfully suspicious that there was a big price dip right before all the good news and a price rise.  

Qora is going open source and that is totally awesome, but just the promise of going open source in a week doesn't remove 6 months of shadiness in the mind of the investor that has followed Qora.  It is going to take more work and a longer time of peace and stability.


This might sound elitist but the crypto community has turned from idealist investors to third world internet cafe traders. There is almost no coin that people wouldn't trade around the margins for .1 BTC, its depressing. They simply won't buy and hold on value but only if the market is moving up.
1510  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Open Source December 9 on: December 04, 2014, 04:53:11 PM
People should get more confident about Qora now everyone can see its not NXT related. This coin could soar even past NXT. So why are some people still dumping at 13 & 14sats? Roll Eyes We could do 50-100 sats easy without that kind of silliness.
1511  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Open Source December 9 on: December 04, 2014, 03:36:47 PM
Very interesting development.  Now that it will be open-sourced, I wonder if people will regret not opening it 6 months ago.  I am very interested to watch this development.

Now that it will be OS, anyone can develop things on top of it, and create a beautiful wallet

A good looking wallet will go a long way towards helping out Qora's image.  The old wallet while functioning just fine, didn't do much for the eyes.

+1

It would help if a new GUI allowed copying and pasting from the context menu. You have to use Ctrl + v to copy and paste in the current wallet. There is a large percentage of users who know nothing about Ctrl + v who are likely to find they cannot use the wallet, and abandon the coin because of it.


Good point. Qora's vision originally was all about being user friendly. Maybe I'm biased but I have always found Qora really easy to use, with a great GUI Qora should be just that. This and wider use outside the Crypto community has to be this coins goals again.
1512  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 03, 2014, 07:40:38 PM
Can this project please prove the Chinese connections are not just bluff?

I'm reading this is a scam that is just David resurrecting blackcoin. Time for proof, and lists of names isn't enough. 

Non disclosure agreements prevent the release of more specific information regarding the team involved with the marketplace. 

That might not be enough for you right now and that is understandable.  I am satisfied currently with the information provided and think that Friday will be a good day for determining the seriousness of this project. 


No offence but you are saying you are happy with no information. Yes we have the tech and wallet but we know NOTHING about the real work of populating a marketplace of some sort. That's simply unacceptable. The list I saw had only a couple of the people under NDA's so what about the others? Seems fishy...
1513  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 03, 2014, 07:26:25 PM
Can this project please prove the Chinese connections are not just bluff?

I'm reading this is a scam that is just David resurrecting blackcoin. Time for proof, and lists of names isn't enough. 
1514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Open Source December 9 on: December 02, 2014, 10:30:18 PM
I want again request the chat rooms are shutdown. I appreciate the effort to set them up etc but they spread the conversation all over and hide important stuff that gets said. Plus this coin needs a leader and so we need Qora to post on the thread not hidden in a chat room. This seems petty but I think it's important.
1515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: December 02, 2014, 10:02:43 AM
new website?
new client?
new thread?
source still hold?



lol and lol again.


shame with you @qora




I swear you always turned up just before Qora did in the past, is this a good omen?
1516  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: November 26, 2014, 07:57:55 AM
if people always dump that will put those big investors off and i dont know about but you i need to see a return before risking more cash,i was sitting ok when it peaked over 300 but now not so much.


Don't you get it, this is almost a dead cert. The pieces are coming together, if you can't be patient a couple of months till markets are up then you are just a low level pumper not a true believer in Bitbay and decentralised markets. I suggest you dump and move to something else. This will go up 10,000% before we are done here and your worrying about 10%  Roll Eyes
1517  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: November 26, 2014, 07:39:06 AM
if all the major work is done and even with minor work not completed i think you should release it before the weekend but if you think the minor work can not be completed before the weekend,i think it should still be released,as i think that if nothing is released this week we shall have more dumping.


Dumping is a good thing, You don't want cheap coins?
1518  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: November 26, 2014, 07:37:14 AM
Thought this was supposed to be the smart contract wallet. This demo shows jpeg encryption. Why not show some smart contract functionality, that's what we want to see.


He already did a video showing smart contracts and how they work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieTIr71Sb3c
1519  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: November 24, 2014, 07:15:37 PM
Whether it's $3 or 7 billion, it's still an awful lot of money to me and if BitBay would only make 1% of that amount it would be gigantic to me.
Plus I expect that the overhead costs will be way lower with BitBay.

+ Yup....this messed up thing is there is no real alternative for ebay for doing International business (alibaba is close but not quite the same)
i was trading my miners on Ebay i sold more then $ 10.000,00 of miners ended up paying more then $ 1.000,00 for just fees how sick is this? combine this with alot of fraud with Paypal/Ebay, the first party who introduces fair trading and also minimal fees has the potential for succeding in revenue 10 folds what Ebay does now. Ebay also damages international and fair trading, so with Bitbay we can repair the confidence and have more revenue..


I will never sell this coin.
1520  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: November 24, 2014, 01:43:53 PM
So investing a few hundred or perhaps thousands of dollars into a venture which has a decent potential of becoming a similar valuation in a year or so is a pretty amazing opportunity.

I agree with most of this post but regarding that last statement, when have you ever seen an altcoin that's worth more a year after launch than in the first 2 months of launch ? Anything that's ever shown any promise in this market gets its valuation priced in very quickly - within a month or two if not immediately.

After that it's all downhill.

You're lucky if the price is a quarter of it's speculative early priced-in valuation in a year's time so I wouldn't lead people on with that nonsense. Even Bitshares and Counterparty which are currently enjoying top 5 marketcaps after a year have never traded above their early post-launch prices. Peercoin had massive promise that was priced in out of the gate. The first POS coin. It's currently a quarter of it's highest trading values. Counterparty got near its February price a few weeks ago with its mega "Etherium+Bitcoin all you want in 1 package" announcement and even that didn't push above its post-pump price record.

Lets get real for once. These are experimental markets. Developers try out new things then move onto other stuff. They are at the mercy of commercial dynamics over which they have no control. If a new project hasn't established itself in a couple of months of launch - forget it. There's too much other stuff going on.




Its a fact most alts have their peak after a few months, not a few days though!!!

But I agree most taper off after an early peak. So why would this be different? Because this coin unlike 95% of altcoins have no real world integration. Almost all alts are trying to become a standalone currency but very few are integrated into an actual business. Ultimately digital currency is to buy stuff and send value to individuals. So a trading platform that has a built in pegged currency is COMPLETELY different proposition that will increase in value IF the platform is used and proves popular. So I agree but you got to separate lone currencies and integrated currencies. They fact that it ticks all the boxes of what a decentralised marketplace is is incredibly hopeful. So many have scammed on the idea of a decentralised marketplace but this actually delivers the goods no pun intended.
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