Oh hey look where we are now down from 60k? Yet I was "called out" for saying it's a usual pNd last week  I know the coin in general may not be pNd, but as usual last week was a pump on rumour and well, sell on "not yet" news lol. Problem is the coin is on two notorious trading exchanges, it's perfect to push up and down, it got vol but not too much and is easy to FUD and Hype. be good to be on more. |
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Let's be objective.
Your hypothesis is that Vanillacoin provides something people want and is therefore fulfilling a significant market need.
But the reality is telling us otherwise. There's not enough interest in the project for it to have hit the top ten. You could say it's an issue of marketing, but most people in the crypto realm who deal with alts check out MANY alts.
Now you can spend a lot of time doing marketing and outreach if you have some great reason to believe Vanillacoin is so great, but if we're gonna be empirical here it's your hypothesis that isn't in line with reality.
Hmm, I would have to disagree. With a price increase of 474% in 30 days (and as high as 790%) and tons of volume, seems there is plenty of market interest in the project propelling it to top 10. Not saying it will happen, but at this rate it would be top 10 within 5-6 weeks. As for the name, I find it no worse than DarkCoin or Dogecoin or Litecoin, which all seem childish. I love Monero, and name sounds like "Money", but also very foreign to American (English speaking?) ears. Dash, Ripple, Etherium, Stellar are cool names, but don't say "Currency" to me. BitShares is probably the best name in the top 20. Vanilla coin is like Vanilla Visa (prepaid) sounding. After initial hesitation I now like it and wouldn't bother changing it. I've actually seen quite a lot of weird names for mainstream financial products, and you've got the whole history of tech companies with pretty silly names, Google, Apple, android names, lollipop, ice cream etc.... I personally neglected to look at Vanilla coin for a while due to its name though. In many ways it provides an opportunity cause the silly name masks a serious innovation in tech and practical use. Vanilla works for me now cause vanilla makes me think of purity and simplicity, probably from plain vanilla yogurt...that's just me. In the end a name can be changed....I hate the idea any coin does well or fails due to a name...kind of a retarded reflection on us as a community. |
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I actually own some Startcoin because I believe it is going to go up in the near future. That being said, I really don't think their phone app can compete with Getgems for many reasons. GG is designed for teens which is absolutely brilliant! Plus, it is designed so that the more users you add and the more you use the app, the more gems you get. Again, brilliant!
There is a reason Startchat has fewer and lower ratings than GG. And again, I say that as someone that owns both coins!
Sorry if you know this but the killer feature is one many don't talk about and thats the attention model, once the advertising platform is built there really will be nothing even close to it. This is really what makes Gems shine. startchat does have the potential to get media attention due to Max and possibly people like Russel Brand who is often linked with his ideas. BUT I honestly feel Getgems seems like the top tier ready for prime time app. I honestly think it looks better than anything coming out of Fb and other big mobile names. Getgems has upped their game quite a bit in the last few months in my opinion. |
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People are worn out from there always being yet another new coin claiming to be the next best thing - which they rarely are (not saying this VNL is or isn't). Kind of like crying wolf enough of times and people won't even bother checking them out anymore.
Yeah I get that. But I'm saying with all honesty that I'm simply asking the question. At the moment I see a coin that is respendable in a second and is anonomous, I'm not arguing it's going to become the reserve currency of the world, simply that possibly it deserves to be in the top 10 marketcap of alts? like I said if people can explain the flaws in my thinking, I'm actually willing to dump what I bought. I can't be more transparent than that honestly. Some of us aren't shrills or FUDers but people simply trying to work out what is the real good stuff and what is the garbage. |
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Give me ten thousand reasons why it should be a top ten coin?
Sorry I assumed people wouldn't be pricks. Actual intelligent points and no dick waving please...,I'm open to both sides of the argument. |
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Wondering why you are getting pounded in the ass? When you dumbasses bought goldmansachs coin you should have comeup with a safe word.
Are you talking about ethereum? Let the record show stoat was the first one to assume it. oops you're not susposed to reveal your bosses... Are you trying to say that ethereum is backed by the financial institution with the deepest pockets in the world? Because if that's what you're implying then that can hardly be bad for ethereums future prospects. Trust me, Satoshi hates you. it's got an unlimited supply, best scenario you get rich......and your kids live in financial slavery for the rest of their lives trying to buy a sandwich for a months wages. |
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I'm thinking about investing in it, I bought a little but wondering on more.
My hypothesis is simple, it sends and confirms under a second, is decentralised and is anonomous. In the end that really what people want, ie send money instantly with no double spend, who wants to wait a few minutes to buy something?
Right or wrong?
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There needs to be a Silk Road DApp & DAO on Ethereum.
Why not just call the NSA up and tell them the location of your meth lab? |
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The thing is, etherium isn't ment to be used as a currency, but to only fuel the platform. Smart contracts etc. People assume that it is a scam, but in my eyes they have been very much open about what it is going to be. As for the price drop, anyone who has been in the crypto scene knows that every coin that is released will have a huge price drop, specially in coins that has an initial investment in it.
I am very much happy i invested in etherium, i made monster profits and profited on the fact that i knew that most people who invested in the coin wouldn't be able to sell at the start since they wouldn't know how to use the command line wallet. I sold my investment early since i know when the windows wallet comes most will be dumping their ethers then. I believe that Etherium can be a huge part of our economy, not necessarily as a coin but as a platform for innovation, it shouldn't be taken lightly.
As for investing in the etherium-coins, i will wait untill the windows wallet gui has been made and the rest of the people have dumped their possible investment.
Congratulations on dumping. When do you plan to buy back in? Don't you think people that wanted to dump couldn't already use the sweeper tool on kraken? I don't think windowsGUI will cause more dumping. I think it will cause more buying. If you look at the chart the price of 0.0026 looks like a pretty stable floor. I think the dumping is finished already. Shut up shrill. |
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Wondering why you are getting pounded in the ass? When you dumbasses bought goldmansachs coin you should have comeup with a safe word.
Are you talking about ethereum? Let the record show stoat was the first one to assume it. oops you're not susposed to reveal your bosses... |
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I kept hearing people talk about startchat but I didn't see the link cause I assumed they were talking about Startcoin so I didn't see the relevance, then it clicked that this is Max Kieser and startchat is a Telegram app.
Interesting story, Over the last year I sometimes mentioned Getgems in a few comment sections on sites I visit, just try to get the word out a bit. Funny thing is I remember posting on Max Kiesers site about Getgems last year sometime. Which makes me wonder if they saw it, and saw what Getgems were doing and thought hey we can do that too and have the PR to push it. We can't be sure but I bet they got the concept from Getgems and who knows initially my post. It seems too much of a coincidence that they used a Telgram client IMO.
But I also say, competition is great, we don't need to be concerned plus at this point no one is really bringing anything like Getgems to the table. So far competitors have stuck a wallet on a messenger app, Getgems with the attention model is so much more than that. good luck to them I say.
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People who know how the world works know Japan is really a vassal state to America. Economically if they oppose Bitcoin it's cause they have been told to by their superiors.
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"Ethereum also recognizes that a system intended to serve as a distributed, consensus-based application platform for global economic and social systems, must strongly emphasize inclusiveness. One of the many ways we intend to foster inclusiveness is by maintaining an issuance system which possesses some churn. New participants in the system will be able to purchase new ETH or mine for new ETH whether they are living in the year 2015 or 2115. We believe we have a achieved a good balance between the two goals of fostering inclusiveness and maintaining a stable store of value. And the constant issuance, especially in the early years, will likely make using ETH to build businesses in the Ethereum economy more lucrative than hoarding speculatively." - https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/04/10/the-issuance-model-in-ethereum/But 90 million ETHER in total(60% crowdsale participants 40% miners until the switch the POS. In 18 months. (Correct me if I'm wrong) Each ether is divisible down to millionths just like bitcoins but in Ethereum they are called 'wei'. I don't expect to see Bitcoin-like bubbles in ether. But a steady increase up to >$10 by the alpha release. And then $30-50 hopefully during my lifetime. I might put my ether towards a distributed Wei faucet and just make money from ads Don't you get it, this undermines why Bitcoin was made. If we wanted a digital currency that inflates then just use your credit card and buy something in dollars.....is everyone insane on here? And who the hell are you spouting this Ethereum bs from a newbie account? $50 in dollars in your lifetime are you insane? A coffee will cost $50 in the lifetime or probably a lot more.. Bitcoin is Bitcoin. It will still exist. Ether is used as fuel to run dapps. It can only work with a steady price. How will DAPPS work if ether is bubbling like Bitcoin. Inflation decreases exponentially down to 1% after 100 years anyway. Bitcoin will still be inflationary in 100 years as the last coins are mined. Bitcoin and Ethereum can coexist in fact you can run Bitcoin through Ethereum anyway. Ethereum blockchain is designed to do totally different things than Bitcoin blockchain can do. Clearly the Ethereum shrills in reality that ether is going to overtake Bitcoin as a currency. This has Fedreal Reserve and major banks written all over it... |
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I saw this the other day, basically vanilla coin gets confirmations and is ready to respend without the possibility of double spending in under a second! Basically solves one of a bitcoins major problems. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Abhq313_8 |
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They are everywhere shilling.
This coin is bad news people, please dont accept it, it will screw up your kids and their kids after them if you do. It's a FED/bank backed coin built to have inflation to rob people of wealth.
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If Satoshi were to comment on ethereum, what do you think he would say ?
He would ask why are so many shrill sock puppets pushing this fiat making frankencoin that undermines everything he worked to do with Bitcoin. |
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"Ethereum also recognizes that a system intended to serve as a distributed, consensus-based application platform for global economic and social systems, must strongly emphasize inclusiveness. One of the many ways we intend to foster inclusiveness is by maintaining an issuance system which possesses some churn. New participants in the system will be able to purchase new ETH or mine for new ETH whether they are living in the year 2015 or 2115. We believe we have a achieved a good balance between the two goals of fostering inclusiveness and maintaining a stable store of value. And the constant issuance, especially in the early years, will likely make using ETH to build businesses in the Ethereum economy more lucrative than hoarding speculatively." - https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/04/10/the-issuance-model-in-ethereum/But 90 million ETHER in total(60% crowdsale participants 40% miners until the switch the POS. In 18 months. (Correct me if I'm wrong) Each ether is divisible down to millionths just like bitcoins but in Ethereum they are called 'wei'. I don't expect to see Bitcoin-like bubbles in ether. But a steady increase up to >$10 by the alpha release. And then $30-50 hopefully during my lifetime. I might put my ether towards a distributed Wei faucet and just make money from ads Don't you get it, this undermines why Bitcoin was made. If we wanted a digital currency that inflates then just use your credit card and buy something in dollars.....is everyone insane on here? And who the hell are you spouting this Ethereum bs from a newbie account? $50 in dollars in your lifetime are you insane? A coffee will cost $50 in the lifetime or probably a lot more.. |
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The question is ether unlimited in supply? If so it undermines the whole point of Bitcoin and further conforms my fears that Ethereum is the elites response to Bitcoin. What the central banks need as well as the banks is an expandable supply, does Ethereum give them that?
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This is just a blip, if you're smart then you would be buying the cheap gems on the exchanges.
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Sorry, but who gives a F that the Chinese don't like the name? Are we going to change the name to something they like because we want to make them invest? If their investment choices are solely based on the name of this coin I'd rather not have them as an investor, easy as that. Look at the fundamentals of Vanillacoin, hell it could have been called "I love the cock coin" and I'd still be all over it and promoting it. Sorry for speaking so bluntly, but this whole appeasement policy over something as futile as a name gets on my nerves.
ironically, it's actually you who is holding onto the word vanilla and giving it more status than it deserves. Should we call your bluff and call it I love the cock coin? Then let's see you get all worked up...Bitcoin is global and so thinking globally is par the course. China is half the market... |
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