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741  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A call to self-examining our gambling habit. on: March 13, 2024, 04:42:23 PM

Addicted gambler is beyond saving and not applicable to this matter. I believe OP is addressing this topic to those regular gambler that is still not addicted since you can self-examine your gambling habit whenever you lose some so that you can develop a strategy or practice to control your gambling or to improve your strategy so that you can’t be tempted to play more when losing.

I’m always doing this naturally whenever I loss since I’m always thinking where did I go wrong for my game turn to lose and most of the time I conclude it’s due to greediness on chasing huge win on a short period of time.

Almost every gambler would be losing money at the end of their games and so thinking of another strategy would be just a waste of time.
At the end, we are bound to lose our money because we cannot win against the casino due to their house edge.
So instead of trying another strategy and playing again and again chasing the losses you should just accept your losses.
That would be a better strateg inorder to not get addicted to gambling.  Grin

Exactly, meaning that no matter how much you think of ways such as looking for a strategy that you think can increase your chances of winning still in the end the results of the session sometimes still more disappointing than what you expected, and as you say here that maybe more precisely it will just waste your time. On the other hand for me honestly I always believe that gambling is always about luck or simply means that you will win when you are really lucky and nothing more than that.

With this mindset I don't have to be busy thinking about various ways such as looking for strategies to win bets, honestly I used to be a gambler like that but in the end I thought that it was an action that would only waste time, and finally I gambled according to my instincts and feelings. One thing that makes me not too serious in gambling because I understand that gambling is completely not a place to earn, so with this kind of thinking I don't have to think of all the ways just to win because if I'm lucky then the victory will come by itself. For me a good and smart strategy is when you are able to manage the money for your gambling allocation which leads to preventive measures so that you don't lose your balance due to the wrong approach to gambling. Wink
742  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Indirect victims of gambling addiction on: March 13, 2024, 04:03:49 PM

Yes, it is actually difficult to get out of gambling addiction when someone still really wants to gamble based on the obsession to get a lot of winnings, because it is very clear that with that you will never be able to reach the level of consciousness to admit that what you are doing is wrong. So actually the conclusion is that it is difficult to overcome gambling addiction when you still really want to gamble or that means you still really like gambling activities, even though on the other hand you may experience financial problems due to excessive gambling but you will never think of changing or recovering or even you don't feel that you are actually addicted, this is because you still haven't reached awareness or haven't realized that the way you gamble is wrong so there is no thought that leads to changes to recover.

And obviously it means that if someone has been able to reach the level of awareness in themselves as well as realizing that the many problems they feel in life such as in terms of finances are due to treating gambling in the wrong way then obviously from there in my opinion you will start thinking about correcting your mistakes regarding the wrong approach to gambling or even you think about stopping completely.

What you say is very true, it is very difficult to leave the casino if in our hearts and minds we want to continue playing, because it is useless if we force ourselves to stop but want to continue playing, in my opinion this will cause stress. for us and our emotional feelings. of course it will also be disturbed.
Having addictive behavior is very risky for us and takes a long time to cure it, therefore it is true what you said that a gambler must have a high level of awareness to be able to control himself when gambling, don't overdo it. and always be careful in every action he takes.

Yes and I would say that the problem point is "hope", meaning that they still have hope in winning from gambling so that it makes it difficult for them to quit their gambling activities, usually they always assume and think "one more time" or "it looks like this time I will be lucky", such ideas always lead to new experimental actions that can be even more excessive. Which means that if for example the thing I said above can happen or means that they are able to achieve awareness due to often being dominated by defeat in some experimental sessions then thinking towards change is likely to happen.

So the key in this case is to prioritize and maintain caution along with self-awareness, especially when you are still in the regular gambler stage or meaning that you have not entered the addiction phase in the sense that you don't really feel excessive interest in gambling activities, all of this is for your safety in the long run, because after all gambling always involves things that look tempting which are sometimes very difficult to ignore, which means that if you don't apply caution and maintain full awareness within yourself then it is obviously very easy for you to fall into and get carried away which ultimately causes a lot of problems.
743  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading not for everyone! on: March 12, 2024, 10:13:10 PM
I think all things apply to everyone, one of which is about the world of trading, but the problem is that not everyone is able to go through all the processes that exist in this trading, because there are so many things that must be prepared and owned by traders, for me trading is like you build a company within yourself where you are the boss who has rules and capital and you are also the employee who works to make profits along with other things such as prohibitions that must be avoided, and in various cases usually what is always a problem is when they are unable to keep the rules along with the prohibitions that they have previously made.

Like not complying with risk management such as stop loss and take profit, usually greed and inability to control themselves are always a problem in general for most traders, this is what I always find that ultimately makes a trader end up with a lot of losses. So when you want to become a successful trader then you need to have a few things in yourself, first the most important thing is to control yourself in various situations, especially when you experience losses and secondly want to learn or learn many new things to increase your knowledge and insight.
744  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has this ever happened to you as a gambler? on: March 12, 2024, 09:24:25 PM
Someone who has experienced an addiction to gambling will certainly be braver in doing things that are beyond people's expected habits and they will also have a bad impact on those closest to them. When they don't have the money to be able to gamble, of course the habit of the addict is to ask for loans from those closest to them. them and it is very difficult to be able to pay off their debts even if they win the gambling they play.
This type of gambler often puts on a sad face when borrowing money and when he wins he immediately forgets about the borrower, in this case usually his friend. I think that when he holds the winnings, all of it is spent to have fun and when the money runs out he will go back to borrowing again. It is better to avoid gamblers as this sometimes will only cause problems if they continue to provide relief.

This is what makes someone ask about "is there an indirect impact on others due to the behavior of someone who is addicted to gambling", of course because it is a fact that loans like this are often done or even used as an alternative by addicted gamblers when they do not have money to gamble. As you said, the scenario is that they put on a sad face and say that the purpose of the loan is for other very important and urgent things that are actually for gambling.

This scenario makes the people closest to them or the borrower can feel sorry for them who in the end lend money and after that the problem occurs, because someone who is addicted to gambling that is in his mind is to continue gambling and sometimes even though they win but not long after that all the winning money is again used up in gambling because they have difficulty ignoring the greed aspect in themselves so that the situation and situation always ends in losing. Someone who is addicted to gambling is those who when they win apply greed because they cannot be grateful for the amount they get which in the end makes them lose again, and when they lose it is usually difficult for them to control their emotions and look for other alternatives such as borrowing to return to gambling with the intention of returning something that was lost before. On the other hand, I agree with your suggestion that if you do have a friend who is quite active in gambling or even who is addicted to it, then don't get too close to him, put limits on socialization because after all this is for your own good too.
745  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A personal view on: March 12, 2024, 09:03:03 PM
I don't feel bad seeing women gambling in the gambling center because, gambling is not made for only men alone and there are some husband that permitted their wife to be gamble if she have the money and, such woman can reader help to her husband when she win huge amount of money from gambling.

I feel bad whenever I lost in the gambling but I don't want to stop gamble because, it makes me not to feel bad in some things that hot me sometime but the moment I go into gambling, it make me feel relief and to be happy with everybody around me because I don't take gambling as an investment like the way some gamblers took gambling as an investment.

Yes it means gambling for everyone, and it is true that everyone can gamble as long as they have the money to bet on two possibilities at the end of the session between winning or losing, simply put gambling never looks at whether you are male or female all have the freedom to gamble. But if you are asking something else then yes obviously I would say that gambling is recommended only for those or people who do not have any problems in life especially financial, because honestly lately I see quite a lot of people who come with the aim of overcoming their personal problems such as gambling to pay off debts or gambling to improve their financial situation, that is very wrong because gambling is not a solution because there is absolutely no certainty in terms of the results at the end of the session about winning or losing.

You said that you feel bad or uncomfortable when you lose in gambling but on the other hand you also said that you don't want to stop gambling because this can make you relieved and happy, so maybe I would say that you are not one of the responsible gamblers because you feel bad when you lose, and my suggestion is that if you want to continue gambling and don't want to stop then you have to re-justify your understanding of gambling, you must understand that gambling is always about winning and losing, and losing can never be avoided completely, so the choice may be between you stopping or being able to accept the consequences of losing.
746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you prefer betting your own predictions or from prediction site on: March 12, 2024, 08:27:11 PM
Dont forget that there are almost no projects or pages on the internet that do or give something for free. Those who run prediction site are no exception. Their goal is to either sell banners, or make users register with their referral links. Such sites earn from users deposits. When users make deposits? Exactly, when they lose. So no wonder that goal of predictions on predictions sites is never to help to win.
What you say is very true, something that is available on the internet is of course paid if we want information about predictions then we have to pay for it even though the predictions given are not a guarantee of winning the bet and it would be better for us to analyze the bet we are going to play ourselves and If what we do is we can win our bet, of course this is very enjoyable and if we lose, we make our own mistakes in analyzing, but if we use a betting prediction service and we can't win the bet, of course this will be very sad because we lost because of other people's predictions.

Exactly, because nowadays there is no free lunch, everything is paid and even when you want to urinate in a public place you have to spend some money, and especially if we talk about services that provide predictions, they do provide predictions but they also provide conditions to everyone who wants to use their predictions to pay some money. On the other hand, I do not forbid you or anyone from following the directions from the predictions of the services provided, there is no harm in trying, but before that you have to think and consider it first, try to allocate money that really will not be used for other needs because even though the service predictions provide something that looks tempting but that doesn't mean you can actually win at the end of the session.

Do at least 3 attempts, and if you win all three in a row then that means that the predictions from the service are good enough to be used as an alternative or intermediary to get a win even though basically you have to pay a certain amount of money to join, but I think the problem with the results is that you still have to is suspected, and if it turns out that in 3 attempts you lose more then it is clear that the decision is that it is better for you to gamble your own way, because sometimes your own luck is more tempting than following someone else's way.
747  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Management on: March 12, 2024, 08:08:12 PM
Do gambling budget and you gonna be fine tho it is still gonna hurt the pocket and emotion a little bit but you gonna fine or just stop to do gamble.  Now I use $$ from the profits from the previous bet to place the next bet and save my initial capital.?
Same like you I always do that but at the end I sometimes just lose it all hahhaha

Maybe what you mean here is applying management to the budget that you want to allocate to gambling activities, or it means only putting a small budget amount that will not be a problem if in the end you lose and lose money, and of course that is a good idea and advice for approaching gambling, because what is certain is that this is a high-risk activity that can even eliminate all valuables, especially the money you have in an instant.

On the other hand if for example you managed to get a win in one of the sessions that you did then yes of course the recommended action is to cash out as soon as possible and if you still want to play then you can play with the amount of pure money that you won before then secure your capital, it's better because even if in the end you lose it doesn't matter and I don't think it will be too draining on your emotions because the money you allocate is the money from your previous winnings, on the other hand yes I understand what you mean here that sometimes even though we have implemented a good plan but in the end we lose everything, and maybe I will give advice that you need to put firmness on the plan along with maintaining your self-awareness, because with this I think it is less likely for you to fall into greed that can end up losing all your money.
748  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A call to self-examining our gambling habit. on: March 12, 2024, 06:48:43 PM
For me gambling is not a necessity, or not an activity that should be prioritized, I only gamble when I want to and also when I have a certain amount of money that I can afford to lose, if you count maybe I only gamble once a month or twice a month, even then it is quite rare and there is no consistent involvement, so with this habit I think I am in the situation of a casual gambler who has no tendency to lead to addiction because I also do not experience any problems at all especially in terms of finances.

But I think it's a pretty good suggestion, I mean it's fine and it's quite advisable to examine your gambling habits in particular identifying how far you're involved in this activity and also identifying whether or not you're experiencing financial problems after you've been involved in gambling. But I think it's quite unlikely for a gambler to think in this direction, especially if they're basically the type of gambler who comes in with the wrong goals such as to earn, the problem is that it's difficult to achieve awareness so yes as you say they'll most likely feel that they're still okay even though they're not.

Whether gambling should be prioritized or whether it is a necessity is immaterial because some people might prioritize gambling and yet have no problem because they gamble responsibly regardless of the number of times they gamble. I gamble every day but I don’t have any problem doing that. I have a fixed amount I use for gambling every week and I don’t exceed this limit because if I do it will affect my bills or savings so I don`t try it. Even when I win, I don`t exceed the limit rather I send it to my savings.

I intend to build a gambling structure in that no matter the number of times I gamble I will still profit from it. Since gambling is about trial and error, I try not to be trapped in addiction so I don’t chase losses because if I try to chase losses I will exceed my limit and I am not ready to face the problem that comes with trying to recoup losses.

But on the other hand gambling is an activity that can stimulate the nerves in the brain while humans have a forgetful nature that can make them fall into it without realizing and obviously as I said it means that identifying gambling activities about whether you are experiencing problems, especially in terms of finances, is an action that I think is not wrong to do because after all it leads to good also so that when they realize that they have financial problems even if only a little they are able to make decisions to change their approach to gambling.

So even if for example you have a good approach to gambling and are advised to gamble responsibly then that does not mean you are free from bad possibilities such as falling into an impulsive approach to gambling, and I think it is not uncommon for gamblers who initially have a good approach but end up becoming impulsive gamblers, all of that happens because they are carried away unconsciously. On the other hand you have a good approach to gambling, and my advice would probably be for you to maintain awareness along with a firm grasp on planning and awareness, as this can prevent you from falling into the wrong approach to gambling over time.
749  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Indirect victims of gambling addiction on: March 12, 2024, 04:49:31 PM

Simply put, addiction is a disease that exists in the human brain system where he is obsessed with a certain activity, if for example the activity he likes does not contain any risk then maybe yes there will be no serious impact as happens in gambling, but if the addiction they experience in gambling or in the sense that they really like gambling for some reason then obviously for the problem the impact is definitely significant. On the other hand, one of the things that makes it difficult for someone to get out of gambling addiction is that they usually do not have the right understanding of gambling.

Most of them usually have the intention and goal to make money in gambling so when your goal is like that then obviously it is very difficult for you to get out of this activity because your hopes and beliefs are very high towards winning but in the end the facts keep slapping yourself that most sessions always end in defeat. And yes I agree with you that the impact of gambling involves social relationships with the community, there are many people who are affected indirectly, such as when scenarios where you hang out or have friends who are already addicted to gambling which in the end it is possible for you to experience some problems such as your friend borrowing money to gamble which in the end does not pay and becomes a problem.


What you say is also true, that it could be that people who are addicted to gambling are very obsessed with something which can influence their brain's thinking about how to do it, especially in gambling, many people are obsessed with just winning, so they will do anything for the sake of it. That. chase that victory.

Yes, it is actually difficult to get out of gambling addiction when someone still really wants to gamble based on the obsession to get a lot of winnings, because it is very clear that with that you will never be able to reach the level of consciousness to admit that what you are doing is wrong. So actually the conclusion is that it is difficult to overcome gambling addiction when you still really want to gamble or that means you still really like gambling activities, even though on the other hand you may experience financial problems due to excessive gambling but you will never think of changing or recovering or even you don't feel that you are actually addicted, this is because you still haven't reached awareness or haven't realized that the way you gamble is wrong so there is no thought that leads to changes to recover.

And obviously it means that if someone has been able to reach the level of awareness in themselves as well as realizing that the many problems they feel in life such as in terms of finances are due to treating gambling in the wrong way then obviously from there in my opinion you will start thinking about correcting your mistakes regarding the wrong approach to gambling or even you think about stopping completely.
750  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I just woke up and saw wins in my gambling app on: March 12, 2024, 04:03:35 PM
Yes overall and from the number of gamblers who suffer financial problems after they engage in gambling activities then maybe I would also conclude that most of the gamblers come for income and not entertainment or fun. On the other hand I'm not saying you or anyone else won't be able to win because obviously all gamblers have the same chances of winning but maybe the difference is in terms of the amount and time to get the winnings, but what is certain is that seeking income or chasing gambling winnings as a way to recover is a waste of your money and time, in fact various cases have proven that it will only lead you to a much worse situation with a bigger amount of losses.

True, I agree with you that we can only play without knowing the outcome, because gambling is always about two "possibilities" at the end of the session which is between winning or losing, simply put if you win then it means you are lucky or vice versa. However winning is really only for the house and the percentage of losing is much greater than winning and that is the reason why we are better off making gambling a place to have fun by only putting a small budget amount, because we never know what the outcome will be, and realizing that gambling is a risky activity is the recommended mindset, with this then you will only focus on various measures for prevention, do not need to think about winning because if you are lucky you will also win like everyone else.
When the gamblers reasons playing gambling is because making money or search for income and not entertainment or fun, they will regret it and will not have a chance to make money. They will not see that the chance is only for people who deserves luck and maybe they deserves for the luck. But no one will know when their luck will comes and that means, they can't playing gambling for a long time. We can win but we can't expect winning for many times as that will only happens to people who have big luck while we only small gambler who just playing gambling because of searching for fun. We can't chase the win but we can lets the win comes to us so we don't have to playing gambling too hard and with too much money because that can attracted us getting a big losses.

We can try to playing gambling and enjoy the games without knowing the outcomes. We don't have to thinks too serious about gambling because gambling is an activity that should makes us relax and not thinking about the other things. We playing gambling is because we want to enjoy our spare times and not trying to making money. We realizes that we don't have a big chance to win much money or small money so we can only playing gambling for having fun. We will not thinks about win or lose but if we win, that means we are lucky but that doesn't mean we can continue playing gambling because it's better if we can stop playing gambling and cash out the money. We will difficult to win more money because we must remember that the house will takes all of the win money while the gamblers doesn't have much chance to gets a big win.

Yes, it is true and the problem and the reason why someone who has a goal of earning in gambling even experiences a greater number of defeats is because in terms of "trials", it is certain that someone who has a goal of earning in gambling they will definitely experiment more and that is where the casino will spend their money little by little slowly in the many sessions they do, on the other hand as we know that the percentage of wins is much lower than losses which means that if you experiment too often in gambling then obviously you will experience more losses than wins, because all wins will usually only come when you are really lucky.

This is the reason why gambling should not be taken too seriously if you do not want to experience a negative impact on your finances, and as experienced by someone who comes with the aim of earning, because in fact what happens is that they will only suffer an increasing number of defeats over time, and on the other hand for the problem of luck, yes I agree with you and you have explained it above in detail, and everything we discussed here I think it is clear that it can be used as a reason why we are better off making gambling a pleasure activity without putting any expectations and seriousness.
751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Try to stick to your instincts as a gambler on: March 12, 2024, 03:16:14 PM
This is the thing that bettors hate the most when they don't really believe in their intuition and choose to cash out, but not long after, their intuition turned out to be right and it was very unlucky that they didn't get what they should have gotten. But this is gambling, anything can happen, sometimes we are too sure about something but lose, or conversely we are not too sure but win in the end - it's all luck, so when that happens there's no need to regret it too much.
That is what is killing a lot of gamblers they do not believe in themselves, and what is now the essence of calling yourself a gambler?  because if its always about other people, then you should not complain when you do not win because it's the person's fault, Even those who we think are good at prediction are all luck, and the majority of them are faking their win, which is why people are believing them. and are also losing confidence in themselves. Just continue to play and you will get lucky most of the time because playing every time will give you a better understanding of something, and you will improve. That is how to succeed in gambling.

Depending or following other people's predictions in gambling will actually only make you disappointed at the end of the session, no matter if they basically say and claim that they are very experienced so they can get more wins, you should be suspicious of such ideas because after all in gambling no one is great at predicting if they are nothing more than the same player as you, but if they are a croupier or casino owner themselves then yes maybe their advice can be trusted if they are honest people.

On the other hand you can't say that there is success or a way to achieve success in gambling, logically if there was wouldn't everyone turn to gambling? Or if that were true then obviously people who have jobs would quit and turn to gambling to be able to achieve success in gambling, but the fact is that no one can succeed in gambling by getting a lot of wins that make them rich, We must understand that gambling is still gambling which is an activity that bets your money based on "ignorance" for the results at the end of the session, and also gambling is not an activity that can be learned, this is the reason why someone can lose and win in different sessions because there is nothing to learn to achieve improvement in winning and also there is no consistency in terms of winning. So in essence, play with personal instincts and don't rely on others, and also understand that gambling is not a learnable activity, this is the reason that gambling is always about "uncertainty" about winning and losing, so just play by applying a lot of risk management and if you win it means you are lucky.
752  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: March 12, 2024, 02:49:00 PM
It’s may not really be necessary to tell someone about your gambling habit and how far you are being addicted and gambling but sometimes it’s also necessary because you need someone to really really advise you very well, you may be dying on silent because of your loss and the shame That it has brought to you because of your lost. You may look like a disappointment, but keep a secret may not really be a good idea to me if I am to advice no one should have a secret unless you are organized very well you don’t over gamble you are not addicted  And you have a particular person of money which is no more than 5% that you are gambling because it’s just like normal money that you can also do for normal expenses. It’s not something that will upset you or keep you on emotion if you lose it it’s money that you can’t afford to lose in the situation. You can keep a secret, but if you are over gambling taking a lot of money, put in gambling, it may not be necessary for you  to keep it secret you just have to speak out so people can talk with you and tell you what to do and share opinions

However, keeping gambling habits a secret is indeed more advisable because overall gambling has a negative point of view in the eyes of society but that does not mean you have to keep it a secret from everyone including those closest to you, one of the reasons is as you said above that sometimes we really need someone to help advise us especially when we are dominated by emotions due to defeat, and in my opinion there is nothing wrong if you tell one of your closest friends about your gambling habits.

There are also benefits like what you mean here where we sometimes need advice from them to keep us from doing some out of control actions when the situation is hot due to defeat, so keeping your gambling habits a secret is good but the point is that I don't think you need to keep it a secret to everyone and as I suggested above that there is nothing wrong with you telling one of your closest friends who play or spend time with you more often in your daily life, And as for the issue of whether you gamble too much or not, I still think telling one of your real friends is advisable because after all there is a possibility for someone to go further in gambling over time even if they were previously a moderate gambler.
753  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you prefer betting your own predictions or from prediction site on: March 11, 2024, 03:32:36 PM
There are gamblers who have great instincts and can forecast games that may end up winning the bet. But they are scared that they may lose. They dont trust their own betting predictions so they would rather go to a gambling prediction site to some daily betting tips.

So i want to know as a gambler that you are, do you feel following those betting predictions from those sites would favour us in gambling more than our own predictions? For me i trust my predictions and i have won more when i predict for myself than letting someone predict for me.

You say that they have a great instinct to predict the game that will end up with a higher probability of winning, or predict the game that leads to victory at the end of the session, then why should they not trust their own ability in terms of prediction? Isn't it by using the way they have that will be able to make them end up with a lot of wins compared to following predictions from other parties that are not certain? for the problem of losing everyone will not like the name of losing but you have to realize that this is gambling where losing is always a definite result at the end of the session and maybe I will call them losers who want to win but don't want to lose.

On the other hand for me gambling is still gambling which means an activity that risks your money for two possibilities at the end of the session which is between winning and losing, you will end up in one of those possibilities and also I always believe that gambling is not an activity that can be predicted accurately to know the results at the end of the session. I'm not a professional or a skilled gambler, and I don't believe anyone or any service that says they are an expert in gambling that has good predictions for winning, I'm sure you will say that the ideas of experts are absurd if you are able to look at gambling from a rational point of view, so with this I always prefer to gamble in my own way, because after all, other people will not be responsible for your loss if it turns out to be a loss.
754  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Management on: March 11, 2024, 02:56:48 PM
I think that the best strategy in relation to money in gambling and in trading is as follows: I enter a deposit on the gambling site and start playing on it. As soon as I make a profit, I withdraw the funds that I originally entered. The so-called "original body".
After that, I feel free to play with the remaining funds. To be honest, in practice I have not tried this in gambling, but in trading I do it all the time.
This way I always manage to make a profit and not risk the initial money.

Exactly, that's the strategy I always think about, or I mean I think about the same thing as you when it comes to financial strategy. In any case, smart management is more advisable when it comes to money, especially when we're talking about gambling where there are possible risks that can never be tolerated, and it's obvious that choosing to cash out as soon as you get a win is a good idea that leads to preventive measures.

Cashing out as soon as possible and securing your initial stake and going back to play with the winnings is a smart and healthy way to gamble, this way you can slightly avoid the possibility of losing more. But unfortunately most gamblers can't do it, one of the reasons is obviously they find it difficult to ignore the greed that is in them, it all happens because they have excessive expectations of winning so that all they think about is "getting a bigger amount", they think that it is a good situation to act more aggressively, but unfortunately they don't know that luck will not always be able to last for a long time, which ultimately makes them lose all their initial capital along with the amount of winnings they managed to get.
755  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing at gambling on: March 11, 2024, 02:15:49 PM
In my opinion only a small percentage of gamblers are able to control everything properly and in accordance with the suggested directions, while most others are controlled by gambling and not those who control gambling or in the sense that they gamble on the wrong path, and for the problem of impact, yes it is clear that the impact of mistakes in treating gambling can destroy all aspects of life, losing balance in terms of finance is the main target as a result of wrong gambling and after that problems can spread to many other things, and one of them causes problems in family relationships.

On the other hand, I am not sure that a spouse can accept gracefully about the problems experienced in the family due to activities or habits carried out by their partner that have an impact on family finances, after all, money is the most important thing in life, especially when you are married where there are so many needs that continue to grow and cannot be tolerated. If for example you have a partner who is involved in gambling no matter if they are a fairly responsible gambler then my advice is to try to get your partner to stop from this activity in any way that you think is effective enough, not least because the impact of gambling can get worse over time when your interest is getting higher.
756  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A call to self-examining our gambling habit. on: March 11, 2024, 01:44:00 PM
As gambler when last did you self-examine your gambling habit to create that awareness based on how you are gambling in order for you to be quite sure if you're within a considerable or an acceptable range of a gambling habit that is void of addiction or the tendencies of gambling addiction.

I think if gamblers could take certain step in setting up regular self examining question towards themself it will be helpful to them in their gambling life not to ignorantly be harbouring a gambling addiction or compulsive gambling lifestyle. Quite a number of gamblers are nursing an addictive gambling habit without knowing and for them their gambling life is normal but if they should  genuinely scrutinize or put their habit to test it is possible they could find varied errors to correct and be right on track again.

Don't you think so?

For me gambling is not a necessity, or not an activity that should be prioritized, I only gamble when I want to and also when I have a certain amount of money that I can afford to lose, if you count maybe I only gamble once a month or twice a month, even then it is quite rare and there is no consistent involvement, so with this habit I think I am in the situation of a casual gambler who has no tendency to lead to addiction because I also do not experience any problems at all especially in terms of finances.

But I think it's a pretty good suggestion, I mean it's fine and it's quite advisable to examine your gambling habits in particular identifying how far you're involved in this activity and also identifying whether or not you're experiencing financial problems after you've been involved in gambling. But I think it's quite unlikely for a gambler to think in this direction, especially if they're basically the type of gambler who comes in with the wrong goals such as to earn, the problem is that it's difficult to achieve awareness so yes as you say they'll most likely feel that they're still okay even though they're not.
757  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Support, do not criticize. on: March 11, 2024, 07:23:46 AM

OP you just nailed it, people criticise all the time forgetting that this can happen to anybody, though we might not know what resulted to one being an excessive gambler which is addicted gambler, there are better ways of telling an addicted person something than trying to bully him or her, op I so much love this thread people see addicted gamblers as useless people but in real sense this are humans like us that may have turn to be addicted because of one reason or the other, the best way to even make them reduce this is by tell them the damage and the danger ahead if they continue in such act, at this point they need us and we must render this help to them if we really want them to change.
The difference between an addicted gambler and a normal gambler is not much. Addicted gamblers cross their gambling limitations whereas general gamblers gamble within control. But this gap does not allow them to be socially distanced. Rather if we support them there then they can come back from that stage. I don't think there is any chance to ever neglect or degrade them. It should be remembered that if an addicted gambler does not get proper support, at some point he will make bad choices. As a result, social security can also be threatened. Gambling addiction is not uncommon. Therefore, addicted gamblers must be supported with proper support to help them recover from their addiction.

Yes and that means the difference is in "managing and controlling", basically anything done in excess always results in something bad and especially if we are talking about gambling which is an activity that has an even higher risk than we imagine when you treat gambling in the wrong way.  Talking about healing or recovering someone from the addiction phase is a really difficult problem to overcome and we all recognize that.

But actually it all depends on the person, I say that gambling addiction is difficult to cure when you really don't realize that you have entered the addiction phase, because sometimes experiencing financial problems does not always make someone realize that all of that is due to wrong gambling, because gambling addiction lies in a person's wrong mindset which means that gambling addiction will not be too difficult to overcome if for example they want and have a strong determination to change, and after that we can help them with some support even if it's just a suggestion, and in my opinion what should be prioritized is to emphasize awareness, not to let them experience interest in gambling again, meaning that if possible, the healing must be supervised by several closest people, especially family.
758  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Indirect victims of gambling addiction on: March 11, 2024, 06:07:11 AM

Equipping children with the knowledge and skills to make informed choices is a great thing done by parents to break the cycle of gambling and promote healthier family dynamics. Providing children with early education and guidance about gambling is crucial in preventing the perpetuation of harmful behaviors within the family. Parents are role model for their children who make them curious and inclined to follow suit, particularly as they enter adolescence.

Without proper guidance and education about the risks and consequences of gambling, children may be more susceptible to adopting similar behaviors. They would be perpetuating a cycle of gambling within the family. Parents need to educate them about the potential dangers of gambling and fostering critical thinking skills. Parents can empower their children to make informed decisions and resist the lure of gambling. Parents need to intervene early and provide guidance to mitigate the potential harm, because it can cause to both individuals and family dynamics. By instilling a strong understanding of the risks and consequences of gambling, parents can gradually diminish the cycle of gambling within the family.

Yes, as a parent you should do the best for your child by providing good and correct lessons and knowledge in everything so that your child gets used to adapting with good understanding and avoiding things that will make his life suffer in the future. However, as a parent, you must educate and explain to your child slowly but surely so that your child does not misperceive this understanding.
If it is related to gambling, it is true what you said that parents must invest from an early age in their children by providing examples of good behavior and good knowledge. If gambling is something that is very risky, it is very likely that people who enter the gambling area will not get pleasure but will have great regret.

Simply put, addiction is a disease that exists in the human brain system where he is obsessed with a certain activity, if for example the activity he likes does not contain any risk then maybe yes there will be no serious impact as happens in gambling, but if the addiction they experience in gambling or in the sense that they really like gambling for some reason then obviously for the problem the impact is definitely significant. On the other hand, one of the things that makes it difficult for someone to get out of gambling addiction is that they usually do not have the right understanding of gambling.

Most of them usually have the intention and goal to make money in gambling so when your goal is like that then obviously it is very difficult for you to get out of this activity because your hopes and beliefs are very high towards winning but in the end the facts keep slapping yourself that most sessions always end in defeat. And yes I agree with you that the impact of gambling involves social relationships with the community, there are many people who are affected indirectly, such as when scenarios where you hang out or have friends who are already addicted to gambling which in the end it is possible for you to experience some problems such as your friend borrowing money to gamble which in the end does not pay and becomes a problem.
759  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I just woke up and saw wins in my gambling app on: March 11, 2024, 04:49:47 AM
If our goal is to seek pleasure, then winning is not our priority, thus it will minimize the level of our losses or prevent us from playing by looking for victory or chasing defeat. There are two things that are wrong with gambling, namely seeking wins and chasing losses, because that will make us continue to gamble without stopping. and when that happens, be prepared that we will become gambling addicts.

We can't predict when victory will come, sometimes just playing with the money from the bonus we get will actually make us win big. I don't deny that winning will make us happier, but the problem is we don't know when that will happen, so gambling with limits is a good way for us to do so that we are still within the scope of reasonable gambling. Don't let us follow greed or have high hopes for victory, because once again gambling is closely related to luck, and we don't know when the goddess of fortune will come to us.
We playing gambling because of seek pleasure so we don't have to chase the wins or loses on gambling. But most gamblers playing gambling because they want to win on their favorite gambling games. They don't thinks about preventing the problems that can occurs such as losing their money or addiction because they see their chance to win on the gambling games so that attracts them to try their lucky.

We can only playing gambling without knowing when we can win because in gambling, we playing gambling for having fun and not making money. Winning will come to the lucky person but not to many gamblers so we must realizes that we don't have a big chance to wins on gambling. When we win, we will be happy especially if the win money is big and we thinks that money can recover our lost before. But if we calculates the total money, we actually lose more money than our winning.

Yes overall and from the number of gamblers who suffer financial problems after they engage in gambling activities then maybe I would also conclude that most of the gamblers come for income and not entertainment or fun. On the other hand I'm not saying you or anyone else won't be able to win because obviously all gamblers have the same chances of winning but maybe the difference is in terms of the amount and time to get the winnings, but what is certain is that seeking income or chasing gambling winnings as a way to recover is a waste of your money and time, in fact various cases have proven that it will only lead you to a much worse situation with a bigger amount of losses.

True, I agree with you that we can only play without knowing the outcome, because gambling is always about two "possibilities" at the end of the session which is between winning or losing, simply put if you win then it means you are lucky or vice versa. However winning is really only for the house and the percentage of losing is much greater than winning and that is the reason why we are better off making gambling a place to have fun by only putting a small budget amount, because we never know what the outcome will be, and realizing that gambling is a risky activity is the recommended mindset, with this then you will only focus on various measures for prevention, do not need to think about winning because if you are lucky you will also win like everyone else.
760  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you had this gambling experience? on: March 11, 2024, 03:25:37 AM
Gambling has to be persistent the more you go to gambling, the worse the life will be affected. Even if one has a good experience in gambling if one plays it every day it will develop addiction in him. If you lean too much towards addiction you risk losing something against your will that can never be recovered even if you want to, so be careful. Be within your limits before going to painful levels never hit the big win after greed.

Yes and this is the reason why gambling should not be done excessively, none other than because as we know that the impact in gambling is very bad and can destroy all aspects of your life especially when you have entered the addiction phase which basically you will find it difficult to control everything especially will experience many problems in terms of finance. On the other hand, in my opinion, no matter how experienced you are, too much gambling is not recommended as you said.

This is because gambling is basically an activity that can never be predicted with 100% accuracy, which means that even if you have experience, losing in the end is a definite result. I think we no longer have to explain in detail about the dangers of the impact of gambling when someone has entered the addiction phase, which I even saw information on another page that someone committed suicide and that they were unable to withstand all the pressure of the many problems they experienced due to the wrong gambling, so obviously of course caution and vigilance are always recommended, never take trivial things in gambling because in the end it will trigger many major problems when your interest is getting higher.
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