I can also read other areas of the forum.  You refuse to answer questions.

Until you stop being a hypocrite, you will get no cooperation from me.

As to the self declared superiority claim, I'm claiming that the thousands of people who's job it is to do the analysis are superior to both of us at the task of advising on what our best course of action is. I'm just curious how many millions of hours you've spent sifting through the raw data, talking to individual business owners to see what losses they're experiencing, and where you've gathered your data that you're drawing all of your conclusions from? Unfortunately, I don't have the resources, ability, or personnel to do that personally, so I rely on others to do that for me, and hope that discrepancies found between Team USA and Team Canada for example would help to clear up any errors along the way.  

I apologize for the ad hominem comments, stupid people don't frustrate me, smart people that act stupid do. I feel it absolutely unnecessary to explain why your claims about probable corona virus deaths and reporting is an outright lie because again, I don't believe that you believe what you are saying. You know as well as I do how pathologists do post mortem reports, they don't spin the wheel to decide what to write down as a cause of death. If you come into a hospital with a stab wound, cancer, seasonal allergies, and a cavity and you bleed out from your stab wound, your cause of death is not listed as seasonal allergies. Please look again at what your own CDC link says about the separation between probable and confirmed corona virus cases, as well as the part about data lagging up to a week and being constantly amended. If you die of pneumonia from the flu and it gets listed as probable corona virus death, what happens next week when you test negative? Ah, the number gets amended, fantastic.

That is absolutely reasonable, if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, and you call it a duck only later to find out it was a quacking waddling chicken, the record gets changed when you find out its a chicken. Hospitals have oversight committees, its a group of jackasses that represent the hospital and watch for lawsuit risks. If Coroner A is doing something that could get them sued, they cut that out.

 

This is literally a job people do every single day when they make forecasts on the economy. Calculus and computers make magic! My only point that I've now brought up literally four times now in this thread, is that while it might be asinine for me to claim that I've done all of these calculations personally, its business as usual for the people who's job it is to map out the correlation between how often people change their underwear and how well the economy is doing. Do you know how much more complicated predicting the weather is than this?

I could not agree with you more. Your right to enjoy a nice bowling game does not outweigh the life of the guy handling the ball after you. Everyone is dealing with this together, grow up, deal with it like an adult and not an angry kid that can't deal with being told what to do. We can all stay home for a month, or half of the population can stay home for a year while the other half disregards the order and takes up precious resources that they don't deserve.

Just keep in mind that if you have a pet dog and you're eating a chocolate bar and refusing to give any to the dog, from the dog's point of view, you're just an asshole who doesn't want to share.

Once again, this is not just about a 1 dimensional cost benefit analysis. The claim that these analyses factor in long term macro economic factors is not only asinine, but is factually impossible. There is NO WAY such a complex system of inter-dependencies were factored into this equation, because the market effects on a macro scale are not quantifiable in any reliable sense. This is the whole point of price signalling as a core principal of economics, because there is no reliable way to dictate from a centralized top down position the most efficient priority and cost. Furthermore, even if you want to desperately cling to such an argument, there is no way they could have done a complete analysis of such effect in such a short period of time no matter how many experts you cram into a room. These are assumptions and projections AT BEST. And of course the totality of this argument relies completely on valid reporting of base statistics, which itself is clearly under dispute as referenced above. You crap out all the hyperbole you like, it changes none of this.

I'm fine with Tecshare being a prick, what gets to me is how you act like a prick, someone responds in kind, and then you pull the victim card and can immediately discredit anything anyone says because they had the audacity to criticize you (or others apparently). You would disagree with someone reading you the dictionary if they prefaced it with an insult.

The conspiracy sites that love to bait anti-vaxers any chance they get.  Show me your most legit source that confirms your "embedded chip in the flesh, not a wearable device" theory.

Microsoft files for a patent involving 'body body activity data'. => Microsoft was founded by Bill Gates => Bill Gates is throwing fuck tons of money at developing a covid-19 vaccine for the world => Bill Gates wants to insert his vaccine and microchip into everyone so he can take over the world.

What a great story to get clicks.  Every tin foil hat wackjob will spread the story like wild fire.



The cool things about infrared thermometers is that you don't need to stick it in someones mouth or ass or even have any physical contact to get a temperature.  

Those near-infrared quantum dots are cool, but they are more of an invisible tattoo than anything. That would be a cool way to store a private key now that I think about it.

Seriously?  You need me to hand feed you the text of the actual document we're discussing?

You spent too much time reading the click bait articles about the patent, and not enough reading the actual patent.  Stop letting those site explain stuff like this to you.  If you see a click bait article based on some other article or report (or patent), just read the actual article or report instead and make up your own mind.

Lead by example, troll.   Start answering others first.

The patent literally refers to wearable tech like phones or watches, which are already capable of monitoring your body in tons of ways from heart rate and temp to EKGs and blood oxygen levels.


They may not even be planning anything right now.  As soon as a tech giant comes up with an idea that might be valuable, they patent it.  It's like a lottery ticket.  All you need is 1 good one to make up for thousands of duds.

If they already have plans, I bet it's just some variation of the tons of fitness apps already on the market.  Don't see why the consumer would care if their steps were counted on a block chain or not though.

Yes, any opinion you have on someone is an attack. If you disagree or think someone is a moron, its an attack. Keep playing the victim card, its a pretty strong tool to gather sympathy for shallow arguments. The USA is not powerful, its one of the most fragile nations in the world because our citizens outright hate each other. We've got a government thats accountable to no one and makes us look like fools, while starting fires all over the world. Travel outside of your bubble and see how much people despise us, its sort of a bummer having to claim to be Canadian when you travel to Europe at the risk of your safety, or having suppliers in China/India/Pakistan not want to do business with you because they don't like Americans.

You are outright lying about caring about other people and all of your bullshit about covid statistics, no one of sound mind is buying it. You obviously have no idea what medical oversight boards and hospital standards are. Your statements about causes of death are demonstrably false. Again, in case I haven't made it abundantly clear, the economic impact has already been factored in. I doubt you need a simple math lesson, but when opening a business that creates $100k per year in wealth costs the country $280k, that is bad.  Remember the middle school economics example where there is a graph of supply and demand for a CD at different price points, and they find that intersection where demand and price is maximized to create the most profit? The thousands of medical professionals, business leaders, and statisticians all worked together to do one of those fancy graphs on when it makes sense to reopen the government. When the expected cost of reopening becomes lower than the cost of staying closed, and the conditions that we'll need to see for that to be the case. Opening too early causes more homelessness, poverty, and all of that other stuff you are pretending to care about for the sake of your half assed argument. Lets put the flames out with gasoline is not a valid game plan, it sucks that the world is dealing with a global crisis, but its embarrassing that we are the only country with any significant amount of nut jobs protesting while nurses desperately try to keep them alive. If you want to get sick, chances are you'll just be ill for a couple of weeks but be fine. Don't expose others, and don't go to the hospital and take the resources that should be devoted to people who aren't rushing to their own deaths because they can't trust the big bad gubmint. For literally once in our lifetimes, the government plan aligns with our own interest, but we're so used to getting boned by them that we've got to express ourselves against them like some rebellious goth teenager that wants a nose ring. Theres wisdom in questioning and selectively fighting battles. You're just a brat if you're fighting for the sake of fighting.

I'm not saying who gives a shit about the economy, I'm saying we can deal with it in the near future. Its hard to come together and fix a problem if we're at each other's throats because your decisions have negative impacts on society as a whole. Even harder if we aren't alive to fix the problem. Again, if you want to be a realists, we can even toss out the whole emotional aspect of people dying and just talk about the chances you run of racking up a life time of medical debt. This isn't the sniffles, something that holds a significant percent chance of hospitalization is a big deal. How many people will go bankrupt and become homeless because they can't pay their ICU bills? We've actually got those statistics, and they aren't very happy.

Look at you bowing to authority is not an argument, the authority is telling us not to die and we're telling them, you can't tell us what to do! They've got a vested interest in not tanking the economy, in keeping you alive to continue paying your taxes, but nah, lets not listen to them because we are the authority now. Why is no one protesting bridges? Why do you trust engineers that think they are the authority on what can keep a building from falling down or a bridge from collapsing? Do your own electrical work, put out your own house fires, do your own architecture work, and manage the treatment of your own water, otherwise you are a authority bowing stooge the same way I am.  Sadly we don't live long enough lives to become experts on all subjects, so we rely on other people to figure some things out for us. Don't get onto an airplane or into a car until you know for certain they aren't designed to kill us. When the government doesn't have a reason to screw us over, what they have is the resources to gather real data and pay teams of people that can put millions of man hours into solving a problem.

This isn't a safe time to throw your tinfoil hat on and think about all the ways the man is trying to get you. If you want to theorize about the moon landing or 9/11 you aren't actively endangering anyone. Think and do whatever you want as long as you aren't a burden on others. If trusting thousands of professionals that are collaborating with thousands of other professionals in other fields, with the gathered resources of a government entity, and in general collaboration with independent teams of other professionals/business leaders rather than listening to Jim the pissed off tattoo artist makes me a fool, I'm good with being a fool.


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Just thought I'd add, I'm in Maryland and am incredibly pleased with how the response has been. Governor Hogan is a republican governor in a blue state that has been exceedingly popular because hes willing to put aside infighting to deal with whatever the issue is. He said from the onset that he's got a staff hes confident with and is following the advise of the world's leading medical facilities here in the state. He was treated by Johns Hopkins for cancer so he knows just how incredibly competent they are. Hes put out his road map for opening back up the state which I'm assuming you are approving of since you posted a link about it. I too approve of it because its responsibly crafted and appears to have a good measure of safety and realism factored in. I'm not saying we should keep everything shut down forever, but we should be listening to the teams of competent people we put in charge because they're competent, rather than refusing to follow their orders because we can't comply or we'll be government toadies.

Remember friends, the government says that drinking and driving and smoking cigarettes is bad for you. They also say you should eat fruit and vegetables, and take it easy on the fats and sugars, but if you agree with any of that, you're a government stooge. If you aren't smoking crack and eating slim jims, you're part of the problem.

So, you've read the patent, and your conclusion is that they were intending to use it with some sort of device embedded in peoples flesh, instead of something like a smartphone, fitbit, watch...etc.

Pretty nuts how much influence these conspiracy sites have over people.

I have no idea what "proof" you would invent to make up any fact.  I just stated you put your no weight behind your words, and you respond by spewing more words...?

One cannot win against someone who constantly changes the rules.

So it seems hacker1001101001 has gone AWOL from this thread when all he had to do was to own up to his misdeeds and move on. He ended up being a compulsive liar and I for one am happy he was caught out.

OK, so it's an example of what you call fact.  Point is, you put no weight behind your words.  A decade of complaining has left you with zero credibility so you don't expect any.