So buying the machinery is cheaper than renting them? If HF is so open and clean, why they don't just give us a BOM and we will try to get an idea of the price of making this PCB?
Because after months of lies, this looks like just another of them to me. Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #mQWpyeIhcLBejJcb
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Estimated guess, based on experience, USD 15-20 million. The daily cost of running it, no idea... to many factors. Are you saying that making the PCBs is more expensive than the mask/ASIC? Things doesn't round up, do they? Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #ZXH5jBVSgNxW0N6P
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I would like to hear a rough number on the cost of setting up such a production line from someone with knowledge. Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #2wkMLW1bANRqAjxl
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HashFast has a great record for taping-out the chip and getting wafers.
It was the substrate and board that slowed us down.
Black Miner already has chips; your FUD is irrelevant. When did you received the wafers? October or November? FUD is on you. Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #BTTqxZfi67yUG0Kc
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http://cognitivemining.com/NDA.pdf^^ don't sign that, it's not an NDA, it's a we-own-your-ass-please-sign-with-your-blood agreement. Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #yZVaMWKD6vDTEk00
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Likewise, we're amused at DC & Co. giving us advice on our ToS! What is he talking about? DC is me, i guess. Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #Mo3kB6ey7kbnUzyG
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Just out of curiosity, care to share it? Were they looking for your personal details? Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #sQhoupBLPQenIJ8A
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I'm amused at CL giving me advices on my taxes. Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #2o2jeYEKF6Yl0rde
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Congratulations to Black Miner for shipping systems with HashFast's Golden Nonce ASIC - the fastest Bitcoin mining chip in the world! Have they shipped them? I have missed it. Notice how they don't bother AMT, Blackarrow, Bitmine, or other companies who took preorder money and have shipped little to nothing. Their selective outrage is only for us! Do you think it could possibly be because we ordered from you? Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #n5VGncrsrUMoU4MI
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I'm sorry to disappoint you, but HF never sent me a refund (of any kind). Never sent me hardware. Never took the time to answer to any of my communications.
And i'm sorry to disappoint you another time, but i can take care of my taxes, given the taxes for my own business that i already pay to my state since the age of 18. Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #czMFQMAuIYXMerTc
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Ok so HF cross posted a reply to my post in their self moderated thread, i guess because he was already planning of removing my answer. So: HashFast has been selling chips for weeks, it's right on the webpage and very easy to find: You are right. I should have said "i had no idea that HF was actually selling chips". Only because you list something on your website it doesn't mean that you are actually selling it. You are selling the ASIC and the IP for the board, and yet your previous customers are getting nothing at all. I'm quite sure that they would have been happy to have the ASIC and the IP of the board as well instead of void promises as usual.
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HashFast has been selling chips for weeks, it's right on the webpage and very easy to find: You are right. I should have said "i had no idea that HF was actually selling chips". Only because you list something on your website it doesn't mean that you are actually selling it. You are selling the ASIC and the IP for the board, and yet your previous customers are getting nothing at all. I'm quite sure that they would have been happy to have the ASIC and the IP of the board as well instead of void promises as usual. Repost #5:Not many customers took advantage of the full refund provision, but some did, and they have been paid (except for those windfall-seekers who returned the check and now tell lies about how HashFast sent them nothing). I received nothing, good luck with proving the opposite. Anyway... The question is still why the hell your customers didn't received their machines if you claim to have build them? Are they "windfall-seekers" customers that are lying about not having received the hardware, since that you sent it? The same way you didn't send me a refund check? Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #tUanwDjEb5Punsr8
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or heres an idea[...] +1 I don't see how lying by proxy, HF-style, would help. Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #TZU94LyCnlG7nPzf
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We are sorry to hear about your bad experiences with Hashfast. The thing is we are only buying the ASICs from them. The boards are manufactured in Romania, in a facility near us. Can we compare your boards with what revision of HF boards? Or is it an independent design? Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #8z1CKzazOynCdVE8
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And please, his name is Edward. Not eduardo. Yes, he has been lying about his own name the whole time.
What? You are not surprised? I see... Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #kDh2s6IxDD18yoHG
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You are in arbitration right? I really liked to see them being sentenced and go to jail, especially of course this eduardo guy. I have been thinking about this intensively during the last hour as well. I need to understand how breaking the forced arbitration and denied group actions points of the contract would afflict my arbitration, but i would love to see them being sentenced to what they deserve. Bitter to better my ass. Fraudsters, this is what they are. Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #4vUkT7YgHKcagkV6
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I'd really like to hear what a lawyer says to this situation. (given what i pay him i appreciate his short replies) Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #VC3WJefOGRLNe8wn
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Not likely! We've already been defrauded by Hashfast... What if i told you that... [censored] Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #WiNzu891c8e2o4ty
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That's the whole point of it. Those two resellers have no fault, apart from having a deal with with this joke of a company... Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #mFPu0B9fDfC6SFsp
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Quoting for people who lost it: I will tell you why HF isn't shipping anything and i expect a beer tip at the end HF isn't shipping anything because after adopting the BFL style of doing business now they adopted Avalon's style of doing business and they are selling customer's chip to third party hardware manufacturers. (example1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=488646.0 and example2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=519943.0) They get twice the money for the same chips So it seems that HF is learning very fast from past bitcoin mining businesses, but only the bad part. I wonder if after they finish with Avalon and BFL they will go Bitfury and KnC style of making a big ass datacenter only for them. I'm speechless. Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #nIwLZngHKSVZBrQ2
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