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861  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 23, 2018, 08:46:39 PM
I mean how much risk are you comfortable with 100xmr, 1000, 10?


That is a VERY good question.  


The way I see it currently we have two choices coming:

1.  Ledger:  Established company.  Hardware proven.  Track record of handling security issues well etc.
2.  Monero proprietary wallet.  Based on FOS design, specific to XMR.


I think BOTH devices share a common risk.  And that is you want to make sure there is no way for your funds to be stolen with some sort of attack.  Either on the hardware, or in between the HW and the SW on the computer.  

The ledger may incur a second twist, and that is they will most likely be changing the seed word format from 25 to 24 words to match the rest of the wallets they support.  The only concern here is there is a reliable way to either convert these wallets to the 25 word form or somehow else see their seed word format supported by other software (inc. the standard cli and GUI).

I bought a Ledger, and I have not decided how much I am willing to risk there.

  

I recently bought a Ledger as well - mainly in hopes of moving some xmr over.

However, now I'm leaning towards just putting linux on a usb stick with a wallet there? Is there really that great of a security benefit for ledger vs a wallet on a usb stick? I'm just going to throw both in the fire safe.

A hardware wallet is not just security.  It is convenience with security.  Easily take a large amount with you traveling, and top up your Monerujo as required, without risking large amounts.  Drop it overboard?  Confiscated in customs?  Too bad, buy or retrieve another one, and restore from your seed.  or have several set up with the same seed/pass, cached at strategic locations where you travel frequently.  There are many options.  Decoy wallets installed to mitigate the $5 wrench attack, multiple wallets for different coins, all on the same device/seed (not the Monero only one obviously).  

862  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2018, 02:05:39 AM
Ok question for the snowbirds. I know you're here. Is Quadrigacx above board? I have no reason to doubt they are, but I've never trusted then before with large amounts.

I've used them for a few years with no major issues.  Banking is always a problem, but they keep managing to find new ways, so I expect that to continue.  

Thanks. They had a real handy debit option at one time. I noticed that's gone now.

Yeah, as is the withdraw to credit card option.  

On a side note, I just regained access to my kraken account, after more than a year.  Good thing, 'cause I need that 6 bucks for... Nevermind.  Can't do anything with six bucks on kraken.  not buy crypto, not withdraw, nothing  Cheesy  

Never thought I'd be able to knock the books down hundreds of dollars with my measly stash. Sure, they're Canadian dollars, but still. Shit is grim.

Yeah, I used to spread it across QCX Bitstamp and Kraken for bigger sells.  That and employ some patience!  Have to wait weeks for the bullshit to settle and get it into your bank account anyway, so just plan on at least a month start to finish (limit orders, you fool!) 
863  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2018, 12:50:23 AM
Ok question for the snowbirds. I know you're here. Is Quadrigacx above board? I have no reason to doubt they are, but I've never trusted then before with large amounts.

I've used them for a few years with no major issues.  Banking is always a problem, but they keep managing to find new ways, so I expect that to continue. 
864  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: February 22, 2018, 11:37:10 PM
Your points are good ones, but your concerns are addressed in the text.  Nobody is jumping into anything, just investigating possibilities.

I  too am pleased to see the extended review time for bulletproofs (which has already netted improvements in the code/operation) despite my enthusiasm to embrace the advances.  Remember when it took years to advance one step, with a handful of contributors?  This is still lightspeed Smiley

Member waiting for the database to be completed mean while monero was sucking down 10+ gb of ram or something? I member.

I might have lost hope and sold if I could have even gotten to my damned monero to sell it!

haha ya I tried to set it up the first time in May 2014.  Couldn't even run it with 4GB RAM.  It didn't happen until Hydrogen Helix release with LMDB.  that was a long wait!  Now a few months is just... nothing.
865  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 11:28:34 PM

I don't think Venezuela has any BTC and IF it had (maybe seized from the good venezuelan people) he/they would not dump it for US to use for the country but just hide it somewhere for their own personal use in the future.



I disagree.  I see no forward thinking at all coming from that direction.  Only current/immediate_future greed.
866  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 10:54:10 PM
all whist billionaires are erecting needless or inane monuments. Sounds like the years leading up to the fall of empires.

Actually, I'm more annoyed by the fact that Bill Gates doesn't fkn know the going price of bananas. They are so out of touch with reality it isn't even funny.

While I don't care how billionaires waste their own money, I think that empires collapse because of things like this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracyundone/comments/7zawb5/why_are_the_taxpayerfunded_salaries_of_a/


obligatory reading, from a time before Marla was consumed by the darkness

On the Pensioning of Roman Veterans
The parallels to rome is one of the reasons I think we are in for one hell of a historical ride.

4000 years ago, in the fertile crescent. The babylonians, akkadians and whatever other people I can't be bothered remembering. They were the most advanced people in the world at the time, they communicated and traded with one another.

And then it all collapsed. Likely this is where the story of the tower of babel comes from.

2000 years later, the romans. Same deal, huge area with a civilized culture, riches and military might uncontested by anyone in the known world. And they collapsed.

2000 years have passed.

Empires collapse...

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/sovereign-debt-crisis/india-enters-the-sovereign-debt-crisis/
867  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: February 22, 2018, 10:23:03 PM


Yes they are but if I remember correctly (as usual I am not 100% anymore and don't have the time to research this again) after vetting this proposal I noticed a few things and one of which was that this statement is not necessarily true.

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my interest in SPECTRE has been renewed. Because it uses a more complex consensus algorithm than the Nakamoto longest-chain consensus method, there is a lot of testing and analysis that needs to be done. The benefits, however, are intriguing: an implementation could increase the block rate substantially without compromising the security of the network

So even the papers from our Science team need to be vetted and I'm not sure who is responsible if anyone for this. I remember there was an issue where it was recommended that he be allowed to review his own work and that was ridiculous. PEER review is a BARE minimum on a security dependent project.

I know I have the time to read and vet all these changes nor do I have the ability to check the pure math involved, only the methodology behind. I was gladdened to see the team had decided to hold off on BF until they could be properly vetted and hope that this continues into the future. As I've stated before, It will only take ONE mistake to ruin the credibility of this project. THIS IS NOT ETH! It cannot just become mutable because there is a fuckup.



Your points are good ones, but your concerns are addressed in the text.  Nobody is jumping into anything, just investigating possibilities.

  I  too am pleased to see the extended review time for bulletproofs (which has already netted improvements in the code/operation) despite my enthusiasm to embrace the advances.  Remember when it took years to advance one step, with a handful of contributors?  This is still lightspeed Smiley
868  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 22, 2018, 09:48:35 AM
I am more interested in actual usage / transaction statistics - does anyone have any numbers, or better yet, how is xmr adoption in the dark/grey areas of the interwebs coming along?

There's this from Monero.How



That is impressive.  I haven't looked at that stat for a while.  Outpacing bitcoin in price growth and usage  makes it a little harder to ignore  Smiley

I think the mobile apps have really upped the rate of usage, being so much easier. 
869  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 22, 2018, 09:42:52 AM
What are some proposed solutions to the "Fork attack"?

I've been paying close attention to this but haven't really seen any proposals on how to fix Ring Signatures so they aren't susceptible to the partial deanonymization that can occur with forks of Monero.

Has anyone proposed solutions?

MoneroV is going to be an issue, but we should prepare and fix this issue before many forks come onto existence.

The thing is, it is only a real threat if the fork becomes widely used.  So it's not a threat, more of an annoyance. 
870  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 12:29:44 AM
I'll just leave this here



Which squares represent fat banksters? 
871  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 12:27:44 AM
Right. But you strongly support having the largest military budget is the world by an order of magnitude yeah?

I'm against any standing army.  
I'm not even american, but its 2nd amendment is the last hope to not end all in a planetary gulag.

The US Government has already regulated arms to such an extent that the citizens have only a glimmer of hope. How are some semi-automatic weapons going to fare against the full weaponry of the US Military? The only hope is that the citizens become well organized and are able to train a large militia. I'm not confident that is realistic. How would we train mass amounts of people without the federal government taking notice and crushing it?

You have to run with the idea that there are enough inside the military with ideology similar to your own that there will be sufficient disruptions.  Big machines are vulnerable to small disruptions.
872  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 12:21:55 AM
Even a small topic like why there is an NRA backed ban on research into gun violence would take a long time to do properly, even though on its face it’s a ridiculous law.  What is more anti-science than banning research ?

All over human history being forcefully disarmed was a synonym of being a slave or a prisoner. Maybe "research" that.

Australia had all their guns confiscated 25 years ago.  They haven’t had a mass shooting since.  And they don’t look like slaves.

Maybe not from your perspective...
873  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 08:16:50 PM

And this is another way of seeing it :

It's the purpose of mankind to dig the earth to recover all the carbon that the plants hid down there. Without us, CO2 would go below 150ppm and all life would disappear from the surface of the EArth.
 

It's funny that I had similar thoughts when I was in my early twenties and was a bit more 'philosophical'.
My thinking was about the initial "purpose" of humans as a part of the biosphere.

I also thought about that, perhaps, at least initially we were there to warm it up, so to speak, because if we didn't and ice covered the whole earth, there would be almost no large scale vertebrates left (at least on the surface).
It goes without saying that low Co2 could have been at least one of the factors behind ice ages.

For those who thinks that earth land could not be fully covered by ice-apparently, it was before, in pre-Cambrian (snowball hypothesis).

Well I wouldn't say it.

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The Global Warming crowd ignores the fact that CO2 levels used to be measured in thousands of ppm instead of hundreds historically. In fact, the temperature does not even correlate very well with CO2 levels. During ice ages in the Ordovician period, some 450 million years ago, when the CO2 levels were several thousand of ppm, this did not result in temperatures 10 times greater than today.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/climate-change-conspiracy-against-us-all/
874  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 08:02:36 PM

1. don't believe anything that call itself "real science", because it ain't.
2. The refutation is the quote from Sarah Kaplan that says that there were more species going extinct in prior events.

Duh! Prior event lasted for hundreds of thousands, even millions of years and
here we have 1% vertebrate extinction in 100 years.

1% in 100 years is a pretty big number IF it continues, but why won't it?


I think you need to balance that with discoveries.  It's like saying x people die every year, so the population will be zero in xy years.

875  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 07:34:21 PM
I'd be quite happy with lower temperatures. Winter is more enjoyable with proper powder snow, and summer wouldn't make me stay inside 24/7 if it didn't cause me to sweat all fucking day.

On that note, I've read about an upcoming mini ice age a few times. Is there any recent update on that that confirms or rejects it?

Vast question.

- climate is whether over 30 years. So it's too soon to tell.
- There was a global warming during the last 100 years of about 0.1°C/10years
- No more warming since 1998, once you remove El Nino/LaNina effects (which cancel each other in time)
- Sun is probably having a period of low activity, that doesn't change much the energy it sends to us, but less activity (= less spots) means less magnetic field, means more cosmic rays reaching our atmosphere, meaning more seeded clouds, thus more albedo and then cold coming in... but this is still a theory
- look here for the latest temps : https://moyhu.blogspot.fr/p/latest-ice-and-temperature-data.html#NCAR
- best site ever for these questions : https://wattsupwiththat.com/

- last but not least : cold kills; warm weather makes our life easier.
Keeping in mind of course that things like math is still a theory. Hypothesis may be a better term.

Also also keeping in mind that it's the left that are going on about the weather.
All of science and anything empirical is ultimately a hypothesis. No amount confirmations (that turns things into theories and laws in academia) can guarantee with certainty that we've figured something out, rather than just witnessing an infinitely unlikely event.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if industrialization had an impact on global weather patterns. In chaotic system even the tiniest perturbation can trigger massive macroscopical changes.

However, I'm not quite convinced yet about us having any significant impact either for two reasons. Namely, I haven't studied the papers so I can't possibly know if there are any systematic errors, and I see too much bullshit going on in the media to not be heavily sceptical. I do lean towards human emissions of CO2 causing changes in climate, mostly because I've worked with people who study precisely that, but even if that turned out true I wouldn't be all that worried about it. Capitalism will come to the rescue and figure out a way to keep us nice and cozy regardless of weather conditions. With nuclear fusion pretty much around the corner energy won't be a concern and with that sorted out the overall state of the planet should be irrelevant. Things might change drastically (e.g. underground, on- and/or underwater or shielded off cities with indoor farming), but I don't see humans disappearing unless we nuke ourselves to hell or get wiped out by some rogue asteroid.
We were burning forests way before we burned coal and oil. In fact, any living creature affects the weather. I understand that at least one american state has legislation regarding cow farts.

But more importantly, co2 is not a pollutant. On the contrary, it's plant food. Which is food for everything else. The more co2, the more oxygen, the more life. It might just be a good thing.
I don't deny the possibility of that, since it would make sense. But our ecosystem is way more complex and has more knobs and dials that interact with each other than just CO2 and oxygen.

I'm not sure how familiar you are with population models, but there could very well be a point beyond which everything tips and triggers a reaction in the opposite direction.
E.g. more CO2 = more life, then at some point there's too much CO2 = less life, be it due to primary (an upper limit on how much can be held or used) or due to side effects (effects of increased CO2 on other parts of the ecosystem) of the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere.
Humans can easily die from drinking too much water at once, so "more oxygen" might not be an unequivocally good thing either (too much of it would eventually increase the pressure which can be fatal even without any other effects on the ecosystem).

Since we're just coming off a low that was in the danger zone for most plant life,  and we're order of magnitude +  from anywhere even approaching cyclical highs, let alone human danger...  Just more tax grab government propaganda. 
876  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 07:30:02 PM

Keeping in mind of course that things like math is still a theory. Hypothesis may be a better term.

Blame my poor English skills

Also also keeping in mind that it's the left that are going on about the weather.

Yes, the matter is highly political. leftists and globalists uses this as FUD to promote their agenda.
What bugs me the most is that they falsify science to do that.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/climate-change-conspiracy-against-us-all/
877  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: February 21, 2018, 11:21:43 AM
hi guys,
this might stupid question but can some one clarifiy for me please.

1.Which wallet is best for storing Monero where i can claim XMV or the upcoming fork?I have download Windows wallet but it is taking ages i been syncing since last one week.i dont think i will able to sync whole blockchain by the fork happens.

2.It says 1 XMR = 10 XMV,but when i have 0.98 XMR will i get 9.80 XMV or should i have one complete XMR?

thanks

Find a thread related to the scam and ask there?
878  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 21, 2018, 11:18:47 AM
I've always liked climbing.  We should do it more often!
879  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: February 21, 2018, 10:53:20 AM
What exactly can I gather at this Monerov fork? what is considered a bad thing?
Maybe they will hurt XMR with the forking?

This may shed some light

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7ydncd/question_about_monero_deanonymization_via_forks/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7xz0mz/monero_deanonymization_or_how_i_learned_to_stop/

880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: February 21, 2018, 01:38:26 AM
They are way ahead of you the curve.  Go to getmonero.org and read some blogs.  Or just hold your nose, and go to reddit, where the news breaks these days.

Great if the team really is aware and even ahead.

Could you give some links on getmonero.org about this issue. There is too much info to search for me.

Here's one:

https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/89005/funding-for-sarang-at-mrl-for-q1-2018?page=&noscroll=1#post-93863
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