What happened to usecryptos? The website doesn't work...

Another scam, ah?

KORE? Really? A dead coin of no merit is going to "revive" VIOR?

I don't think son.

Thank you.

My account, credente, is also still online and therefore I cant log ion. I pm'd you. Why is this still not done srele?

Same here, Srele. I just PM'd you.

Thx!

Excuse me??? Barabbas has been trying to help this project from the get go. I still cannot believe this dev can be so incredibly stupid as even pay the slightest attention to anything Bassguitarman or anyone else says... and it is quite frankly just an excuse. truth of the matter is that he lacks the ability to carry over this project on the tech side and what he is as an anon dev coincides with the image of a poor sociopath unable to interact with anyone on any level.

On the basis of what little we know that it works on this project ALONE, VIORCOIN has a very strong probability of success if the dev stops acting like a 15 year old idiot, communicates HERE, seriously, THINKING before posting, somehow leasing some class and professionalism, at least a couple of times a week, preferably on a daily basis, and concentrate of the task at hand rather than the critical or negative or attacking -the project- posts. The attacks on him personally will cease immediately as soon as he posts, like I said, thinking with his head rather than his ass hole. And whatever small -and it is small- the community, will rally in his support completely ignoring the even more idiotic individuals such as bassguitarman and his laughable threats.

There's no trouble whatsoever in ignoring these idiots, most particularly that idiot. What you should do, dev, is forget about reddits, tweets, slacks or whatever and concentrate on posting here and posting well. And working developing your ideas or asking for help in carrying them through. Everyone will support your project. Everyone will support YOU.

But you have to stop acting like an idiotic 15 year old first. It's that simple.

Nah, some people will never learn any lessons. The writing here was all over the walls. This guy not only was anon -which is the first no-no-, but also has, literally, the ability to communicate at the human level that a donkey will surpass by miles. Plus no vision whatsoever. Your typical scammer, actually (remember coinville or viorville or whatever the fuck he called it?). But you guys swallowed because you wanted to make callas scrambled... wow. Anyway, the project was dead for quite a while already so this is sort of the official declaration of it. He got his few BTC and is more than happy to continue living like the turd, jerkoff reject he is, in the basement of his parents".

Unfortunately, no lessons learned anywhere. You WILL indeed back quite a few more of these... One more to add to the list. He's already back with another scam(s) under different handles of course, but his "social ability" will be evident soon enough.

Since the clear lessons of the past are not learnt at all, I believe another, harshest one, is on its way.

This I will be anxiously waiting for. I haven't PM'd you but I will be following developments quite closely.

And you are indeed entitled to that -and other- opinions... just like everyone else. But if "people" are of that persuasion, what they should actually do is use the very conveniently devised "ignore" button, and problem resolved.

Which, by the way, is something I suggest you consider, most particularly in my case.

I do believe this post breaks absolutely every rule in moderation, both Draks AND the forum. But I do welcome it, stupid as it is.

Like I said above Drak, YOUR idea of what is constructive and brings in results, as evidenced by the recent months before the past 3 days, is to be suspected. The results I GUARANTEED to you with just a minimal change in attitude and communication with the (real community), have also been proven and the momentum continues, so we are not talking just "opinions" here, but proven, achieved facts. Your idea of "community", no invoked again, was Primitive and masternode. Even with the fall out, still, when it serves your purpose, those two are the community for you... including those that you mention here. The community is much bigger -fortunately for your project- and mostly silent. Some discouraged because they don't feel free to express their opinions or bring in their suggestions, some because they feel represented by, well, me. Or Chompy Z. Or others. But they are there. Holding. Buying. Perhaps even convincing friends and family members to join in now that some "provocative" posts have brought new life to a seemingly moribund crypto project.

So, while every efforts should be thanked and duly appreciated, there are efforts that achieve much less than others, although not everyone would be able to quantify on first look the reach of some of the lets call it "most abstract" of them.

Peace indeed.

I believe I have been helpful enough already. You should know better than anyone for I have channeled my help through you, but since you are even in doubt -no thanks are required, by the way, although they'd be quite appreciated. AND DESERVED-, it could be time for you to cry, again, "FUD".

My time for further amazement even: Drak, what you choose to call "distracting small details", in the last three days, has made possible for VIA to gain 60% in value and get to the top of the volume in the exchanges. Months of concentrating  on "doing stuff", took the project to the drain and the verge of death. Perhaps you should reevaluate concepts a bit?

As a matter of fact, please eliminate the question mark and do. Because it remains sorely needed. And evaluate what has been achieved, almost instantly, by just a minimally expressed will of reaching out and really support your supporters and, at the same time, your project. You seem to be obsessed with "results"... how's that 60% and bringing life to a project practically dead, with just a few posts? Remember I GUARANTEED to you such results, only 2 days ago, didn't I? Even though you still fell incredibly short of the still minimum "requirements"... Imagine what would be happening if you would have really gone all the way.

Every bit of help counts. Every bit of actions, helps. But, without LIFE in it, life here, on BTCTalk, and at least a minimally stated strategy path, nothing can be achieved.

I certainly hope that what the markets and the community is showing to you in such period of time can speak more eloquently, and effectively, to you than I could... in spite or corroborated guarantees and straight arrow pointing out of strategies. In the end, I'm afraid, I fear I would have been wasting my time when, inevitably, repeating failures of the past, you will let the momentum fade instead of taking full advantage of the easy success already achieved with no resources whatsoever -nor real change in attitude- on the line.

I did what I could. I don't think I will "harp" on it no more.

No, sorry, this is not false. Nor FUD. I don't do either. This is, exactly like North Korea, regarding (lack of freedom of speech. That you will arbitrarily decide what or what not to censor is hardly the matter here. It will depend strictly on your mood that moment, how "benevolent" you feel or how your boat is rocked. THAT is, precisely, the point. And, I harp about it all the time and will continue "harping" forever. These forums are already moderated -quite arbitrarily and bordering on the ridiculous, I must add- by their owners. It's their platform, they give it (to us) for free, so we either play by their rules or leave. That's quite different to adding yet another, voluntary, layer of censorship to the moderation that already exists.

You try to excuse the "moderation" as being very limited, which is purely circumstantial and avoids completely the more important part of your censorship: The self-imposed censorship that everyone who posts here is subject to by themselves in their effort to "comply with the rules".

Again in an effort to justify the unjustifiable, you pretend these rules, that censorship, were set by the community... NOT TRUE. We all know the community participation in these consultations, not to mention the drawing of "the rules" is less than minimal and therefore subject to manipulation, your manipulation. Why is this even brought to consideration? There's no "problem" with the exercise of total freedom of speech. Everyone can ignore posts or even posters altogether quite easily. Everyone actually already does on a regular basis. Stop calling what it is not and call it like it is: Freaky exercise or arbitrary control. Period.

I could write much more, but "chompy Z", above, have made a very good post about it, so no need to.

Another matter: Repetition: In the exercise in contradiction that you are, you complain about "posts being buried very quickly in this forum", as a negative thing, yet, the following post, you mention -again and again- the "rule of no repetition" as a WARNING. What is it? Should we let posts be buried by new pages of activity and never repeat content? the "rule of no repetition" directly implies that... which you hate! So it all comes down to reality, right? It is your obsession with control behind the whole thing, nothing else: To have the capacity even if, "benevolently" exercise the option "sparingly" (depending on the times and, yes, the price of the coin on the exchanges. Amazing, simply amazing. I guess as long as people don't ask about the ins and outs of the "Zinga brouahaha", their posts are relatively safe?

I am not going to argue with you. Simple will state that you cannot present any evidence of what you are posting. I can. Every single coin that went to CENSORED to avoid so called "FUD", has had to come back to free speech mode, from Blackcoin to Solarcoin and many others in between, while the ones that remain censored, for the most part, remain on the way to the ground... the examples of these being many and easy to spot.

But the irony of supposed supporters of crypto currencies advocating for censorship to silence other's opinions is priceless, really.

EDIT to add: I, by the way, advocate for total free speech... EVEN IN cases like yours in which the obvious abuse of the language could and probably will result quite offensive to anyone with a minimum of good taste...

The control freaks, the ones that want to control the behind the scenes for their own benefit and that will leave the community always holding the short side of the stick, now want the dev to step down??? Unbelievable. Just a couple of post, vaguely stating his disposition to actively support VIA, has produced a rebound of 30% in the price -not to mention taken it in volume to the second place on Bittrex- and these guys are advocating that he just go away? Drak, you haven invested a single penny yet, not a cent. Not a VIA. An d you have seen thge immediate results of your (only apparent) change in disposition and will. Imagine what would happen if you really take some action... like make the thread uncensored.... like actually earmarking MONEY for real, actual development. If you suggest features others can take and pursuit with incentives of MONEY, coming from you and the rest of the community. These fuckers are only in it for the money, for pure greed (and I don't say that in any way negatively, that's how this works. The negative thing is that just making money taking advantage of inside info, is not enough to satisfy their greed and ambition for control...). VIA doesn't need these fuckers... they are a cancer, in fact. Let them dump their stakes for peanuts of let them stay put for they know that for any chance to make money they need to fully support the community efforts. But never, EVER, give up again to any of their pressures. Where the fuck is Otoh's now? How come his wallet is not at the end of the link on the first page of this thread? Truth is, they are NOTHING. Definitely not help in any shape or form.

You, Drak, lnow now what must be done. It is up to you to do it or, after a couple of testimonial changes of attitude, go back to the old vices. It is entirely up to you. You don't need to pay attention to anything those that have proven to be your enemies, have taken you for a ride and have sunk your project, have to say. They are immaterial, insignificant and, actually, quite cancerous. The community on the other hand, has responded and will always respond, especially if you really want to put forward the effort, the will and the resources. You have had that PROOF that you so much crave, in a flash. 30% in just a few hours. Without action to speak of.

If you still refuse to see the light, you will never see it.

Precisely the problem: What you and the rest of the insiders, until now enthusiastically supported by Drak, term any critical opinion, no matter how precise and accurate, "fud". The refuge of the cowardly scum that plagues crypto. You asked for how to prove your assertion. Nothing easier. But you really don't want to do that. Nor anything else but take advantage of the community. As always.

And, by the way, even if only 5% of what I post is not useless, that's a full 5% more than what you post.

Oh and this dumping in progress, guess who's doing the slow unloading...

Good post. I disagree on several points but it seems to be in sync with what it is needed to be done now in VIA and, again, BTCDrak "seems" -only seems-, to be willing to do. Old habits die hard -actually NEVER die- and Drak's panic and personal paranoia about so called "fudsters" remains as intact as his willingness to sacrifice the great strides that were made to have a real free speech and open forum. That guys posted some provocative statements but, to be quite honest, most of them are true and deserve an answer (for instance, whatever happened to the "zynga deal"?). He also proved quite profusely Drak's interest are much more focused -or have been for months- on other coins and investments rather than on VIA. Drak himself refuses -why?- to say how much of the ICO money is still available and in what, BTC, Fiat? and what is his real, personal, stake in VIA. These are very serious issues at this time and they all should be subject to extreme transparency if the support of the community is to be obtained.

As for you, Primitive's quotes, I believe the real "scum" in VIA has been operating behind the scenes, not on the forums of BTCT, as we are now beginning to have a clearer picture of it. Much more clear will reveal ion time. The fortunes of VIA would have been quite different if the "scum" would have been revealed here long ago, instead of keeping it operating in the background. We, evidently, have quite a different definition of what "scum" is in crypto.

People has asked, yes, and quite logically, about the dealings in VIA of the likes of you, masternode, otoh and Drak, of course. They have every right to think the worst at this point, since you guys have been controlling, very unethically, seemingly at will, the destinies of their investments in the project. It is very easy to demonstrate if you have or haven't sold any coins: Put a link to your wallet addresses. That simple. The fact that the one on the first page for otoh's wallet doesn't work, doesn't exactly inspire confidence, does it? But, like I said already, if Drak himself refuses to produce this info, the leader of the project, who else is going to volunteer his?

Drak has posted that he's looking for PR, including a PR firm. While that is a sign of action on a front that is sorely needed, what we have to do is at least try to avoid clear mistakes that others before have committed. Hiring a PR firm is not cost effective nor has represented any help at all for the various projects that have used that tactic before, BlackCoin comes to mind. I repeat it is not cost effective nor propels the project forward to hire a pR firm. Now a Dedicated and compensated person, working full time on that regard, that's a different proposition altogether and a much cheaper and obviously effective one. But, again, it will never work when the main communication channel -this forum- continues to be CENSORED. That's a total no-no. Every single project that has tried it, has had to go back to free speech mode. Including BlackCoin. But there are many other examples. To pretend to be in favor of crypto while at the same time exercising censorship is like having slaves and pretending to be against slavery, ok?

I have to be sarcastic and quite skeptic -even in agreement with the message- for the "late day" request for transparency for the people that were enjoying their scummy tactics for months when VIA was a huge financial success. Like you, Primitive and masternode. It is quite amazing, indeed, that now, when your stacks are worth practically nothing, como to the community for help and ask for transparency. You don't come, as one would have expected, with real actions talking louder than  words such as "here's my 10% of my holdings to support the efforts of the community and the dev" to show real support and meaningless action. Mind you, even that would have just a testimonial value considering your millions of VIA are, de facto, worthless so it would be more of a gesture than actual generosity, but it would be something, rather that just empty words, at quite the wrong time, pretending to come clean because "you haven't sold a single VIA" which may or may not be true but it is meaningless because the only reason you didn't, if in fact you did not, was because you wanted more and believed, for months, that with your access to private information and capacity of create direction in the background, you would gain much more. Greed, pure and simple, has been your undoing. There's no redemption possible to those scummy actions. The only possible one would be through real actions now, by the community and the dev. No influence. No privileges. In or out. Trust, I doubt you will ever regain.

So, once again, the address of those wallets, so everyone can know what you have done in VIA. And, much more importantly, a demonstration, clear, concrete, specific significant, of what you are willing to do for the project. Or not. It's your call. But think what doing things your way have brought to the project in general and to your investment in particular. If that is better than the proposed alternative, by all means, continue your merry ways.